RE: RE: [Chevelle-list] front discs again
Thanks rick. A hughe help. John(;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of rick schaefer Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: [Chevelle-list] front discs again Great story John. I believe that you will honor your friend his dad by your treatment of the car. One thing about the Camaro steering box. I don't believe that it is the best choice for you. As I understand things, the internal stops of the camaro box will limit your turning radius. You will not be able to make a sharp turn, in or out of a parking space or tight corner. I know from experience :) . From what I've read at the suspension brake forum at Chevelle Tech, a better choice would be the box from either a 85-87 or so Monte Carlo SS (hard to find) or a 94-99 (or so) Jeep Grand Cherokee. If you go here: http://www.chevelles.com/techref/index.html and read Jim Sheas info (hes a GM chassis engineer), he explains why a whole lot better than I can. As for the big rear brakes, 75-78 el caminos and some 76-77 Malibus/Monte Carlos seem to be a fairly reliable source. rick schaefer 72 El camino http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/rick/elcamino17.jpg ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 -- John Liao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry - no big secret, they are just off a 69 chevelle, which is good and bad. It is less of a hassle and they should be a direct bolt in since the spindles are the same size, they are an 11 rotor and a dual master cylinder, but I was originally hoping to do the tall spindle swap (and still may in the future depending on how the car handles). The car will be used for cruising and general week end enjoyment so I don't have high expectations of making a corner carver out of it. Now I just have to find out what GM cars came with 11x2 inch rear drums which will be a direct swap. The cool thing about the car is that it belonged to a buddy of mine. It is a very straight (in need of A LOT of love though) 64 Chevelle Malibu SS that was the first one sold off the show room floor from a local dealership. My buddy's dad bought it as the only nice / new thing he ever owned. My buddy really doesn't even like american cars, but it had so much sentimental value to him that when I offered years ago to start redoing it for him if I could borrow it occasionally and take it to Hot August Nights in Reno, he said that it would be like loaning me his wife... needless to say, I never asked again. I did talk to him years later about leaving it to me in his will because he would be done with it and I wanted to see it go to some one who would appreciate what it meant to him. Several months ago he said that things were changing in his life, he was planning on moving out of the house that his grandfather built, that he had not touched the chevelle for 4 years and that it had sat under a tarp in our little beach town and that he would never get to start working on it again due to time , finances and other things. He asked me if I still wanted it since he thought it would be better for me to get it while I had time to work on it and enjoy it. When I came to look at it, his wife said Oh, you are willing to take the old car out of the back yard for us?. It pained me how little she understood or appreciated what the chevelle meant to my buddy. When I picked it up with my trailer, I had only driven for 5 minutes before I had an offer to buy it as is. Needless to say, it is never going up for sale. My buddy also thanked me repeatedly for taking his car from him. Needless to say I thanked him repeatedly for giving me his mostly original 64 chelle malibu ss. He rebuiltthe suspension and gace it better springsand shocks. He also converted it to a 68 350 and a super t-10. I am obviously changing the brakes. A norcal chevelle-camino club member turned me on to a camaro steering box to quicken the steering. The entire body has surface rust (and rust through on the leading edge of the hood) so I am going to strip it and change the color from dark green to black. I am going to put AR torq thrust d 15x7 in wheels. The inetrior could used some work and I just saw a white 65 with these really cool SS logo seats that I forgot to ask the owner where he got them. Other wise, I want it to be a clean straight car that my buddy would be proud of. I of course originally had some visions of 13 inch brakes a 6-71 blower but after finding out the complete history on the car, I just would not have the heart, and the car deserves more respect. Kinda a cool car and a wonderful place to start a resto. Thanksagain for all the help and advice. I am sure I will be asking for more. John(;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 3:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: [Chevelle-list] front discs again From: John Liao [EMAIL PROTECTED] As it turns out,
RE: [Chevelle-list] front discs again
From: rick schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] One thing about the Camaro steering box. I don't believe that it is the best choice for you. As I understand things, the internal stops of the camaro box will limit your turning radius. You will not be able to make a sharp turn, in or out of a parking space or tight corner. I know from experience :) . From what I've read at the suspension brake forum at Chevelle Tech, a better choice would be the box from either a 85-87 or so Monte Carlo SS (hard to find) or a 94-99 (or so) Jeep Grand Cherokee. If you go here: http://www.chevelles.com/techref/index.html and read Jim Sheas info (hes a GM chassis engineer), he explains why a whole lot better than I can. Rick, Thanks for the link. Not sure I'd seen the gearbox chart before. (never would have guessed Jeep!) I bought what I was told was a 74 Trans-Am box to put in my 64. It seemed to work ok. I had those 245/50R16 T/A's on all four wheels so if it did limit the turn angle that might have been a good thing; accidental engineering. : ) Is that letter code metal stamped or was that an ink stamp on end cover? I painted it so not sure where to look on box. How does one decide for sure if it's a variable ratio box? It's out of car in a box at the moment. I guess everyone knows you're supposed to use the Chevelle power steering pitman arm when you do these swaps. (fun fact: 64's had 4 different arms - 2 for manual and 2 for PS boxes - ID'd by the center link diameter, 13/16 or 7/8) Pete Geurds Douglassville, PA
RE: [Chevelle-list] front discs again
Of your couple questions, the only one I know for sure is that the 2 letter code is a paint or ink stamping. Its NOT into the metal, just like a stencil on (I believe) the bottom cover. Honestly I've never actually found a stamping that was readable, but I've only looked at half a dozen or so steering boxes. rick schaefer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: rick schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] One thing about the Camaro steering box. I don't believe that it is the best choice for you. As I understand things, the internal stops of the camaro box will limit your turning radius. You will not be able to make a sharp turn, in or out of a parking space or tight corner. I know from experience :) . From what I've read at the suspension brake forum at Chevelle Tech, a better choice would be the box from either a 85-87 or so Monte Carlo SS (hard to find) or a 94-99 (or so) Jeep Grand Cherokee. If you go here: http://www.chevelles.com/techref/index.html and read Jim Sheas info (hes a GM chassis engineer), he explains why a whole lot better than I can. Rick, Thanks for the link. Not sure I'd seen the gearbox chart before. (never would have guessed Jeep!) I bought what I was told was a 74 Trans-Am box to put in my 64. It seemed to work ok. I had those 245/50R16 T/A's on all four wheels so if it did limit the turn angle that might have been a good thing; accidental engineering. : ) Is that letter code metal stamped or was that an ink stamp on end cover? I painted it so not sure where to look on box. How does one decide for sure if it's a variable ratio box? It's out of car in a box at the moment. I guess everyone knows you're supposed to use the Chevelle power steering pitman arm when you do these swaps. (fun fact: 64's had 4 different arms - 2 for manual and 2 for PS boxes - ID'd by the center link diameter, 13/16 or 7/8) Pete Geurds Douglassville, PA
[Chevelle-list] Cooling
With my 350 in the Beaumont, she is starting to heat up a little bit. I was wondering if a 5 blade clutch fan would be better than the solid 4 blade fan it has now? Thanks again DaveIngersoll,OntarioMy web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Cooling
It would be MUCH better. - Original Message - From: Dave Benjamin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 12:18 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Cooling With my 350 in the Beaumont, she is starting to heat up a little bit. I was wondering if a 5 blade clutch fan would be better than the solid 4 blade fan it has now? Thanks again DaveIngersoll,OntarioMy web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
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[Chevelle-list] '66 turn signal switch needed
This is from former list member Jim Brady so please email him at the address shown. He's apparently having some problems with his list subscription. Thanks! Brad PS Jim says hey. ;^) === From: Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: turn signal switch needed Anyway, I was wondering if you could help out with a part I need.. I know you have some extras of things lying around, and I need a turn signal switch for my '66 Chevelle (non-tilt column). Somehow over the weekend when I put the front bumper back on the car (took off for paint estimates), something must have gotten grounded out- Next thing you know there was smoke coming out of my dash and the wires from the turn signal clicker to the steering column were baked.. I've used a test light and I'm getting juice all the way to where the connector is to go to the wires in the steering column and past, but when I turn on the left or right signal, I get nothing- So, I'm guessing that the switch inside the column got deep-fried. If you can help me find a used replacement, I'd appreciate it! Say hey to the guys on the list for me.. Jim
Re: RE: RE: [Chevelle-list] front discs again
The stops in the saginaw 800 steering box. The shoulder on the aluminum end cap is the easy one, just turn it down. The split ring at the other end of the bore requires disassembly. Advance auto parts has the rebuild kit for under $40 and it helps to have a camaro shop manual. I power washed mine the WA was visible but wiped off. Neal S. 66 Malibu convert
[Chevelle-list] 71 Convertible Dash
Hey, my dash assembly is cracked right above the steering column and the previous owner tried to repair it, but it looks like crap. So, I was thinking about getting a replacement. Does anyone here know how the hole was cut for the top control? The one I have looks pretty Disney (Mickey Mouse). Any thoughts on whether the crack could be repaired to look original. Seems like for $300 it's worth it to just replace it since I will have everything off to get the amp gauge working and get a new quartz clock. Thanks, Mark 71 SS convertible
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Re: [Chevelle-list] 71 Convertible Dash
Replacement sounds like a no-brainer. Go for it. rick -- mark fellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, my dash assembly is cracked right above the steering column and the previous owner tried to repair it, but it looks like crap. So, I was thinking about getting a replacement. Does anyone here know how the hole was cut for the top control? The one I have looks pretty Disney (Mickey Mouse). Any thoughts on whether the crack could be repaired to look original. Seems like for $300 it's worth it to just replace it since I will have everything off to get the amp gauge working and get a new quartz clock. Thanks, Mark 71 SS convertible
[Chevelle-list] Unsubscribe
Hi guys, I will be MIA for a couple of weeks and I'm going to unsubscribe; How do you do that again Be back in Aug. Talk to u then. Rich
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[Chevelle-list] Steering wheel refurbishment...who do you recommend?
Looking to have my '67 Chevelle Steering wheel refurbished...who do you recommend? Thanks Donnie
RE: [Chevelle-list] Steering wheel refurbishment...who do you recommend?
You can do it yourself with a kit Eastwood sells. Its simply an epoxy that fills any cracks and you file/sand it to shape. Ron http://home.comcast.net/~cutter169/index.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] Steering wheel refurbishment...who do you recommend? Looking to have my '67 Chevelle Steering wheel refurbished...who do you recommend? Thanks Donnie
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To be fair, the protocol for unsubscribing from the chevelle list is not as simple as most similiar lists, where they print the unsubscribe info at the end of every email. I happen to know how to do it because I'm a neatness freak and saved the instructions for it in a special mail folder. Even so, I'm not completely sure just what you're supposed to do. As I understand it, you're supposed to go to the URL: http://chevelles.net/mailman/options/chevelle-list_chevelles.net/ adding your email address after the last slash, and then follow your nose.
