Re: [Chevelle-list] Z bar refurbishing

[66chevelless396]

Turned out to by a weld that flowed over a little.  Filed it slightly and the pivot ball pulled out easily of the Z bar frame end.  Upon removing the inner seat I could see that it backs up to a shoulder inside the Z bar - keeping it from pushing in to far.
 
Thanks again for the help!  It keeps one pointed in the right direction.
 
Krister

Re: [Chevelle-list] Z bar refurbishing

[sixty7ss396]

It might be full of grease which could be creating a suction action on the ball and preventing you from pulling it out of the z-bar.
 
Bob
65 Malibu
85 Elky
00 Monte Carlo
00 1200 Sportster   -Original Message-From: Herb Lumpp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:58:42 -0500Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Z bar refurbishing



I was using a 6 cylinder z bar but recently replaced with a big block z bar and neither one had anything to keep the ball stud in place.  With that said, the ball stud should come out of the z bar with no problem.  The swivel stud on the frame side is held in with a clip, which you've already removed.  I would try a file or small dremel to grind off whatever is stopping you from removing the ball stud.
Herb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
 

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:29 AMTo: Chevelle ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] Z bar refurbishing

On my ?66 Z bar on the frame end, I was able to remove the seat clip and remove the outer (Nylon) seat.  A slight interference with the end weld on the bar is preventing the pivot ball from coming out the frame end.  Is it supposed to come out the frame end?  It seems that if I try to push the pivot ball in, it stops up against the inner seat.  Perhaps the inner seat is supposed to stop against a shoulder in the Z bar to keep the seat positioned where it?s at.
 
Looking for steps in refurbishing/ replacing the frame end / pivot ball components.  Anybody done this?
 
Thank you for your help.
 
Krister Meister
?66 SS #?s

Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 Hood on a 68

[John Nasta]

What's the
point? Just buy 1969 style hinges (and avoid bending your hood at the same time).

 

JMO,

John Nasta

 

 

 

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Message-
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Behalf Of Kevin Riel
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006
11:21 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] 69 Hood
on a 68

 

Has
anyone had any luck modifying the hood hinges from a 68 in order to put a 69
hood on a 68 with the 68 hinges?  It appears that the rear mounting point
is farther back on a 69 hood, but can you just extend the hood mounting point
on the 68 hinges rearward to make it work?  I know you can buy repo 69
hinges to solve this problem, but I have pretty good metal working skills, and
wondered if I could save a few frogskins..  Thanks.

 

Kevin
Riel

68
ElCamino

 

 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevy Truck question

[Zieg72]

Thanks, that is how I feel.  I've had well over 300 vehicles, with a most 
needing repair and I've done it pretty much all.  Every now an again I need 
some advice when hours of research and trying to figure it out on my own 
draws a blank.


- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevy Truck question



"Can you not have someone do it?"

I can't speak for ZIEG, but anything I THINK that I can do with good
results, I do it!  There is a huge  satisfaction in doing it myself.
Most mechanical operations are fairly straight forward and not rocket
science.  Just my nickels worth.

On 1/15/06, Zieg72 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The bleeder is on top.  It just started going Thursday night and by the 
time

I got home no clutch release at all.  Didn't loose much fluid at all.

- Original Message -
From: "Bill Lessenberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevy Truck question


> This sucker isn't made with the bleeder not at the top of the slave is
> it??  Peugeots were like that, the bleeder was put at the bottom of the
> slave & the hose at the top.  What I did was to get a new squirt type 
> oil
> can, fill it with brake fluid and back-bleed the system from the slave 
> to

> the master.  That worked for me on weird French cars. :-P
> BillL
>






--
Rick Schaefer
72 TPI El Camino

Re: [Chevelle-list] 2 questions

[mike f]

Hey Dale, Did you finish the CD? You said you can send
me one when you picked up the 10 bolt? What have you
been doing on the El Camino lately? 

mike

--- Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Kumho doesn’t list the EXACT 335/35/17 tire Clint
> has but rather a new,
> lighter tire of the same size.  Their website
> actually lists two models of
> 335/35/17 tires and they measure one at 26” diameter
> and the newer model at
> 26.2”.  What the speedometer indicates is immaterial
> since the actual speed
> is calculated by engine RPM, tire size, and rear
> gear ratio – assuming your
> tires are correctly inflated, don’t ‘grow’ at 100+
> mph and your tachometer
> is dead-on to the exact RPM (not a likely event
> either), and there’s no
> slippage in the drive train.
> 
>  
> 
> And it depends on which formula you use I suppose. 
> Two I’ve found are:
> 
>  
> 
> 1. (rpm x tire dia) / (gear ratio * 336) and at 6000
> RPM * 26.0” tire
> (156,000) divided by 4.11 x 336 (138.96) yields
> 112.9649.
> 
>  
> 
> 2. (tire dia x rpm x rear gear) / .002975 and that
> one yields 112.9197.
> 
>  
> 
> Substituting a 26.2” tire for a 26” tire gives
> 113.8339 and 113.7883
> respectively.  Depending on how the online
> calculator rounds the
> result…Suffice to say it’s faster than you’re
> allowed to go on most U.S.
> highways. 
> 
>  
> 
> Dale McIntosh
> 
> 67 El Camino
> 
> 1967 Chevelle   Reference
> CD now available!
> 
> ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Clint Hooper
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 2:01 PM
> To: The Chevelle Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 2 questions
> 
>  
> 
> Uhhh,,,no.  I don't think so. 24" tires would
> jack those numbers
> up,considerably. I know my El Camino's speedo is off
> a little bit. But,those
> numbers I gave were from my ZR-1's that had the
> trans & rear ratios and tire
> diameter. Their speedo readings were very close.
> 
> Welcome back,Andre. Glad to have you with us again.
> Sometimes a brief
> sabbatical is good.
> 
> Clint Hooper
> H&H Custom,owner
> 1969 El Camino ProTourer
> 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
>
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
> 
> - Original Message - 
> 
> From: André-Tigergutt
>   
> 
>  
> 
> to see 70mph at 4k rpm you rear tires should be
> around 24"
> 
>  
> 
> this is not get back on the list and start right
> away being a pain in the
> axx, its just to let you know that maybe your speedo
> might be a tad off.
> 
> Have Fun
> André 
> 
> 


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Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 Hood on a 68

[John]

Easiest approach is to use 69 hinges on 68.  
They fit and will then fit hood easily.  Did this before.  68 shorter 
and factory extended for 69 due to some problems with hood bending on short 
hinge.  My two cents for what it is worth.
 
John

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dave Benjamin 

  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:12 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 Hood on a 
  68
  
  I have drilled on set of hinges and honed the 
  hole a bit to work. I don't know if I did 69 hinge to fit 68 or 68 hinge to 
  fit 69. I did use the back hole but the front hole was different 
  location.
   
  Not much help but my 
  experience
   
   
  Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: 
  http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Kevin 
Riel 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 

Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:21 
AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] 69 Hood on a 
68

Has anyone had any luck modifying the hood 
hinges from a 68 in order to put a 69 hood on a 68 with the 68 hinges?  
It appears that the rear mounting point is farther back on a 69 hood, but 
can you just extend the hood mounting point on the 68 hinges rearward to 
make it work?  I know you can buy repo 69 hinges to solve this problem, 
but I have pretty good metal working skills, and wondered if I could save a 
few frogskins..  Thanks.
 
Kevin Riel
68 ElCamino
 
 

Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 Hood on a 68

[Kevin Riel]

This sounds like using a 68 hood on a set of 69 
hinges but I'm not sure also.  Thanks for the input.  Any other 
experiences?
 
Kevin Riel
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dave Benjamin 

  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:12 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 Hood on a 
  68
  
  I have drilled on set of hinges and honed the 
  hole a bit to work. I don't know if I did 69 hinge to fit 68 or 68 hinge to 
  fit 69. I did use the back hole but the front hole was different 
  location.
   
  Not much help but my 
  experience
   
   
  Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: 
  http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Kevin 
Riel 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 

Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:21 
AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] 69 Hood on a 
68

Has anyone had any luck modifying the hood 
hinges from a 68 in order to put a 69 hood on a 68 with the 68 hinges?  
It appears that the rear mounting point is farther back on a 69 hood, but 
can you just extend the hood mounting point on the 68 hinges rearward to 
make it work?  I know you can buy repo 69 hinges to solve this problem, 
but I have pretty good metal working skills, and wondered if I could save a 
few frogskins..  Thanks.
 
Kevin Riel
68 ElCamino
 
 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Opinions needed - new panels or patches

[Gene Smith]

Hi,

 Definitely go with new panels, it is the only way to get all the rust,
while the quarters are off you have the opportunity to coat all the sub
structure too. While new sheet metal seems expensive, it does save time
which is also money, and the finished product is as nice or nicer than
original. Goodmark has some new import quarters out for the 70 - 72's that
are a good bit cheaper than the USA versions.

Thanks,
Gene,
a.k.a. usa1chevelleguy

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- Original Message - 
From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Opinions needed - new panels or patches


> If you want to paint the car Black,I tend to agree with your neighbor.
> Clint Hooper
> H&H Custom,owner
> 1969 El Camino ProTourer
> 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
> http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Karl Groves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > I had my old neighbor come by last night who's been doing body work for
> > about 20 years or so. He told me I'd be better off buying all new sheet
> > metal, rather than just patching.
> >
> > My 71 has rusted in all the typical places - behind each wheel, around
the
> > wheel openings, rocker panels and so on.
> >
> > His line of thinking was that with complete fenders & quarters, I'd be
> more
> > guaranteed that the car would be straight and rust-free, and that the
> > level-of-effort required to cut, patch, mud and sand the panels kind of
> > cancels out the savings from not buying complete panels.
> >
> > I'm painting the car black, so straightness is extremely important.
> >
> > I'd love to hear others' opinions.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > Karl Groves
> > Master Certified CIW
> > http://www.karlgroves.com
> >
> > Will Work For Parts:
> > http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=3
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: [Chevelle-list] Opinions needed - new panels or patches

[Clint Hooper]

If you want to paint the car Black,I tend to agree with your neighbor.
Clint Hooper
H&H Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message - 
From: "Karl Groves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> I had my old neighbor come by last night who's been doing body work for
> about 20 years or so. He told me I'd be better off buying all new sheet
> metal, rather than just patching.
>
> My 71 has rusted in all the typical places - behind each wheel, around the
> wheel openings, rocker panels and so on.
>
> His line of thinking was that with complete fenders & quarters, I'd be
more
> guaranteed that the car would be straight and rust-free, and that the
> level-of-effort required to cut, patch, mud and sand the panels kind of
> cancels out the savings from not buying complete panels.
>
> I'm painting the car black, so straightness is extremely important.
>
> I'd love to hear others' opinions.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Karl Groves
> Master Certified CIW
> http://www.karlgroves.com
>
> Will Work For Parts:
> http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=3
>
>

Re: [Chevelle-list] Opinions needed - new panels or patches

[Larry Shouse]

If your buddy does collision work, I'd agree. I've heard several classic car 
restorers say to keep as much of the original car as possible. If you're 
restoring to original, that should be a consideration. That's the approach I 
took. All performance and safety upgrades on my car are bolt-on, so it can 
be brought back to original. The sheetmetal is all GM except for a few 
patches. I guess it depends on what's important to YOU.


Larry Shouse
- Original Message - 
From: "Karl Groves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'The Chevelle Mailing List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:30 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Opinions needed - new panels or patches



I had my old neighbor come by last night who's been doing body work for
about 20 years or so. He told me I'd be better off buying all new sheet
metal, rather than just patching.

My 71 has rusted in all the typical places - behind each wheel, around the
wheel openings, rocker panels and so on.

His line of thinking was that with complete fenders & quarters, I'd be 
more

guaranteed that the car would be straight and rust-free, and that the
level-of-effort required to cut, patch, mud and sand the panels kind of
cancels out the savings from not buying complete panels.

I'm painting the car black, so straightness is extremely important.

I'd love to hear others' opinions.

Thanks!


Karl Groves
Master Certified CIW
http://www.karlgroves.com

Will Work For Parts:
http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=3

[Chevelle-list] Opinions needed - new panels or patches

[Karl Groves]

I had my old neighbor come by last night who's been doing body work for
about 20 years or so. He told me I'd be better off buying all new sheet
metal, rather than just patching.

My 71 has rusted in all the typical places - behind each wheel, around the
wheel openings, rocker panels and so on.

His line of thinking was that with complete fenders & quarters, I'd be more
guaranteed that the car would be straight and rust-free, and that the
level-of-effort required to cut, patch, mud and sand the panels kind of
cancels out the savings from not buying complete panels.

I'm painting the car black, so straightness is extremely important.

I'd love to hear others' opinions.

Thanks!


Karl Groves
Master Certified CIW
http://www.karlgroves.com 

Will Work For Parts:
http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=3

Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 Hood on a 68

[Dave Benjamin]

I have drilled on set of hinges and honed the hole 
a bit to work. I don't know if I did 69 hinge to fit 68 or 68 hinge to fit 69. I 
did use the back hole but the front hole was different 
location.
 
Not much help but my 
experience
 
 
Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: 
http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin 
  Riel 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:21 
  AM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] 69 Hood on a 
  68
  
  Has anyone had any luck modifying the hood hinges 
  from a 68 in order to put a 69 hood on a 68 with the 68 hinges?  It 
  appears that the rear mounting point is farther back on a 69 hood, but can you 
  just extend the hood mounting point on the 68 hinges rearward to make it 
  work?  I know you can buy repo 69 hinges to solve this problem, but I 
  have pretty good metal working skills, and wondered if I could save a few 
  frogskins..  Thanks.
   
  Kevin Riel
  68 ElCamino
   
   

[Chevelle-list] 69 Hood on a 68

[Kevin Riel]

Has anyone had any luck modifying the hood hinges 
from a 68 in order to put a 69 hood on a 68 with the 68 hinges?  It appears 
that the rear mounting point is farther back on a 69 hood, but can you just 
extend the hood mounting point on the 68 hinges rearward to make it work?  
I know you can buy repo 69 hinges to solve this problem, but I have pretty good 
metal working skills, and wondered if I could save a few frogskins..  
Thanks.
 
Kevin Riel
68 ElCamino