Re: [Chevelle-list] LT1
They are the same. The Opti changed in 1995. The intake changed in 1994. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dan Mascheck Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:43 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: [Chevelle-list] LT1 I need to find out what LT1 Engine I have that came out of a 1995 or 96 Camaro Z class. Is there any way to tell? Dan
[Chevelle-list] 327 question
Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] Mike--Re: 69 SS and pontiacs
If you have access to the original 396 motor, than you can check the serial no. If it matches than it should be a SS. Mike T. - Original Message - From: Mike Holleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Mike--Re: 69 SS and pontiacs Go to www.phs-online.com. All the info can be found there. Mike Holleman - Original Message - From: Dale Mundle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Mike--Re: 69 SS and pontiacs In regard to the two pontiac's would you happen to have a number to call, I have a 69 firebird and would like to get that info. Thanks, Dale From: Mike Holleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 SS Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:40:41 -0500 Trooper, He tried that already. The original owner is deceased and no paperwork exists. He just needs to sell it with what info he has. It most likely is an SS. If it isn't who can dispute it. There just aren't enough old records left. Too bad Chevy did not keep up with their info like Pontiac. I was able to get build sheets, dealer order forms and a full listing of option codes on my two Pontaics by supplying the VINs. Mike - Original Message - From: Trooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 SS Mike, If the guy he bought the car from is a friend of the original owner. I would contact the original owner and see if he's sitting on any old paperwork. Trooper - Original Message - From: Mike Holleman To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 SS Tom, I haven't seen the data plate but the VIN has the letter G in it. You guys have pretty much confirmed what I had told the owner. He says the man he bought it from was the second owner and that man was a friend of the original owner. Too bad nobody kept up with any paper work. He does have the original block (396). It is unusable but the numbers are legible. He is only asking low twenties for the car and it is in good shape. I think he should just make anyone interested aware of what he does know and leave it at that. Thanks for your replies. Mike Holleman - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 SS In a message dated 11/8/2006 5:38:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Guys, I think I already know the answer but I'm asking for a friend. A buddy has a 69 SS, 396 four speed car. He wants to sell it but doesn't know how to verify that's it is a true SS. No build sheet, window sticker, original BOS etc. Is there anyway from the VIN or Data plate to verify it is an SS? Also the engine was changed at some point so numbers don't match. Anyway, I said I'd ask. Mike No way to authenticate it without paperwork. There are some tell tale signs, but it's nothing that can't be changed. The rag joint coupler on the steering shaft is specific to big block cars. It should have a 3/8 fuel line. Also, what plant was the car built at? This is out of my own curiosity. Tom -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.32/523 - Release Date: 11/7/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.0/525 - Release Date: 11/9/2006 _ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.0/525 - Release Date: 11/9/2006
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
Hi Jim, Let me start off by saying, you do have valve guides, maybe you meant to say you didn't have them replaced when the work was done on the heads? Either way, you have them. As for the noise, are you sure it's coming from the engine? Do you have a manual or auto trans? It could be something in the clutch and/or linkage that doesn't like that particular rpm and it rattles. Maybe something under the body/frame is very close to the engine/trans and at that rpm things move just enough to make contact. Food for thought. Herb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of J. Brady Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:36 PM To: Chevelle Group Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it? I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see... I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap. My $.02- Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PMSubject: [Chevelle-list] 327 questionDrove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw thisquestion out to "the Council":My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake,speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam(272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly builtcamel hump heads with pinned in studs.Valves havebeen redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000miles on them, and I have new valve springs andretainers (also Crane, to match the cam).All that being said, it runs great with one small petpeave..When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTILI get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I heara slight "chatter".That's the only way I candescribe it.I've heard hung up lifters before, andthat's not the noise- that's a chronic"tap-tap-tap-tap" (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my bestimpression, goes "dadadadadadada" in a much fasterinterval, thus the chatter description.It soundslike it's on the driver side of the engine, andhappens ONLY at 2K RPMs..I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away.Ithought maybe it might be something bumping thedipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved thedipstick and it still happens.I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back outto check, but it's damned frustrating.Anyone haveany guesses?I do not have valve guides and Iwondered if it might be that I need them.Anothernote, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 camin it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as ofthis year.I thought maybe the disassembly andreassembly might make it go away (with readjustment ofthe valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it'slower end noise.But from where and why ONLY at thatrevolution?Thanks in advance,Jim'66 Malibu Cheap talk?Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.http://voice.yahoo.com Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
Thanks for the input Herb- I'm pretty sure it's engine-related, as I've put the car back together from scratch as you know, and I'd hoped to eliminate any of that hubub to avoid making you guys compensate for it 8^] As for the tranny, plain ole PG 2 speed automatic. It's the weirdest thing. --- Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jim, Let me start off by saying, you do have valve guides, maybe you meant to say you didn't have them replaced when the work was done on the heads? Either way, you have them. As for the noise, are you sure it's coming from the engine? Do you have a manual or auto trans? It could be something in the clutch and/or linkage that doesn't like that particular rpm and it rattles. Maybe something under the body/frame is very close to the engine/trans and at that rpm things move just enough to make contact. Food for thought. Herb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of J. Brady Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:36 PM To: Chevelle Group Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
That's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like a wrist pin or piston slap to me. I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, only when out on the road. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it? I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see... I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap. My $.02 - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
I agree with Herb. If its a stick does the noise go away when you push the clutch in ? Throwout bearings can make all kind of little noises. Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
Yikes your answer came in between reading Herbs and sending mine. Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
No worries Larry, appreciate the help! Regards, Jim --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes your answer came in between reading Herbs and sending mine. Larry (Z) Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
It could be an exhaust leak as well. Been there Try adjusting the timing a few degrees. If nothing changes it might be in the lower end unfortunately...- Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:58:12 PMSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 questionThat's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like awrist pin or piston slap to me.I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, onlywhen out on the road.Jim--- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it?I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see...I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap.My $.02 - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to "the Council": My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs.Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave..When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight "chatter".That's the only way I can describe it.I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic "tap-tap-tap-tap" (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes "dadadadadadada" in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description.It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs..I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away.I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating.Anyone have any guesses?I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them.Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year.I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise.But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!?Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.http://new.mail.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
Check your torque convertor bolts, that will also cause that type of noise.- Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:58:12 PMSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 questionThat's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like awrist pin or piston slap to me.I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, onlywhen out on the road.Jim--- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it?I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see...I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap.My $.02 - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to "the Council": My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs.Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave..When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight "chatter".That's the only way I can describe it.I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic "tap-tap-tap-tap" (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes "dadadadadadada" in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description.It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs..I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away.I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating.Anyone have any guesses?I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them.Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year.I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise.But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!?Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.http://new.mail.yahoo.com Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
You know, that sounds logical actually- since I'm only hearing it when the car is moving. And I haven't been back to those bolts since the engine went in the car in '03. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check your torque convertor bolts, that will also cause that type of noise. - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:58:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question That's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like a wrist pin or piston slap to me. I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, only when out on the road. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it? I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see... I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap. My $.02 - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
You would think that. By retarding the timing 2-3 degrees an exhaust leak would sound different. Weak springs on the centrifical advance in the distributor causing the timing to move at "certain" rpms??? Seen alot in my 25+ years of tinkering with over 350 cars bought and sold...- Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:10:44 PMSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 questionOnly thing is, if it were lower end, wouldn't you hearit continue at higher RPMs?That the part that'seatin me.Jim--- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could be an exhaust leak as well.Been thereTry adjusting the timing a few degrees.If nothing changes it might be in the lower end unfortunately... - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:58:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question That's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like a wrist pin or piston slap to me. I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, only when out on the road. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it?I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see...I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap.My $.02- Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 questionDrove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to "the Council":My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs.Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam).All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave..When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight "chatter".That's the only way I can describe it.I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic "tap-tap-tap-tap" (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes "dadadadadadada" in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description.It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs..I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away.I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens.I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating.Anyone have any guesses?I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them.Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year.I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise.But from where and why ONLY at that revolution?Thanks in advance,Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Cheap talk?Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.
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Thanks! From: Jim H. Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 3:54 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] LT1 They are the same. The Opti changed in 1995. The intake changed in 1994. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dan Mascheck Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:43 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: [Chevelle-list] LT1 I need to find out what LT1 Engine I have that came out of a 1995 or 96 Camaro Z class. Is there any way to tell? Dan
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
Heat riser ??? Try to tie it up if you have one, see if noise goes away. Assuming you have one. gm66 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing iYou would think that. By retarding the timing 2-3 degrees an exhaust leak would sound different. Weak springs on the centrifical advance in the distributor causing the timing to move at certain rpms??? Seen alot in my 25+ years of tinkering with over 350 cars bought and sold... - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:10:44 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Only thing is, if it were lower end, wouldn't you hear it continue at higher RPMs? That the part that's eatin me. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could be an exhaust leak as well. Been there Try adjusting the timing a few degrees. If nothing changes it might be in the lower end unfortunately... - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:58:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question That's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like a wrist pin or piston slap to me. I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, only when out on the road. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it? I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see... I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap. My $.02 - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
I actually don't have one in the car- running headers. Thanks for the suggestion though! Jim --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heat riser ??? Try to tie it up if you have one, see if noise goes away. Assuming you have one. gm66 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing iYou would think that. By retarding the timing 2-3 degrees an exhaust leak would sound different. Weak springs on the centrifical advance in the distributor causing the timing to move at certain rpms??? Seen alot in my 25+ years of tinkering with over 350 cars bought and sold... - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:10:44 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Only thing is, if it were lower end, wouldn't you hear it continue at higher RPMs? That the part that's eatin me. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could be an exhaust leak as well. Been there Try adjusting the timing a few degrees. If nothing changes it might be in the lower end unfortunately... - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:58:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question That's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like a wrist pin or piston slap to me. I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, only when out on the road. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it? I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see... I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap. My $.02 - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com === message
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That's why I come to you guys 8^] Regards, Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would think that. By retarding the timing 2-3 degrees an exhaust leak would sound different. Weak springs on the centrifical advance in the distributor causing the timing to move at certain rpms??? Seen alot in my 25+ years of tinkering with over 350 cars bought and sold... - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:10:44 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Only thing is, if it were lower end, wouldn't you hear it continue at higher RPMs? That the part that's eatin me. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could be an exhaust leak as well. Been there Try adjusting the timing a few degrees. If nothing changes it might be in the lower end unfortunately... - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:58:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question That's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like a wrist pin or piston slap to me. I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, only when out on the road. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it? I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see... I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap. My $.02 - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. === message truncated ===
