Re: [Chevelle-list] 1971 seat question

[Bill Lessenberry]

That is correct.  I have a Chevy Service Bulletin that shows how to 
delete them on Chevelles & Elkys produced before Jan '69.   Any car 
sold after that date was required by the Feds to have head restraints.

BillL

At 05:43 PM 5/14/2008, you wrote:
Think headrests were standard (and maybe federally mandated?) after 
January 1, 1969.


Dale McIntosh
ChevelleCD.com
ChevelleStuff.com

Re: [Chevelle-list] 1971 seat question

[Dale]

Think headrests were standard (and maybe federally mandated?) after January
1, 1969.

Dale McIntosh 
  ChevelleCD.com 
  ChevelleStuff.com 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:17 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] 1971 seat question

 

Hey guys quick question, were headrests optional on the 71 Chevelle or were
they standard? I have a set of buckets from a mid 70s Pontiac that I was
planning on putting in the 71 but I don't know if the new factory style
covers will work on them or not. Thanks in advance.

 

Josh Campbell

66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisseree, 1st car never part with it)

66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the steering wheel)

87 Monte Carlo SS (The modern Chevelle especially when you add the right
stuff)

71 Malibu (Something new to blow my money on)

  

[Chevelle-list] 1971 seat question

[Josh Campbell]

Hey guys quick question, were headrests optional on the 71 Chevelle or were 
they standard? I have a set of buckets from a mid 70s Pontiac that I was 
planning on putting in the 71 but I don't know if the new factory style covers 
will work on them or not. Thanks in advance.


Josh Campbell
  66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisseree, 1st car never part with it)
  66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the steering wheel)
  87 Monte Carlo SS (The modern Chevelle especially when you add the right 
stuff)
  71 Malibu (Something new to blow my money on)

   

Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question

[Ron Griffith]

That was already done on the restored dash I bought.  I haven't tried it on the 
unrestored one.  I probably would have to call on a talented friend for that 
chore.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Solomon 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


  Ron,
   
  How did you fix the hole that passes through the center of the words 
"wiper-washer"?

  Godspeed, Dan Solomon
  "It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
hurry."
  http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/








From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:19:08 -0500
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


I purchased a restored dash on eBay and then installed a Dakota Digital VF3 
Dash in my '71 Elky.  I cannot personally recommend the DD dash as mine has 
been a lot of trouble.  I have replaced the control box three times and am 
currently waiting on a replacement display unit.  They are great at honoring 
their lifetime warranty, but pulling the dash to replace parts can get old very 
quickly.  I believe Covan makes a gauge carrier that allows you to install 
pretty much any aftermarket gauges.  Of course the reproduction gauges are 
available as well. 

The restored dash was from a Monte Carlo and the holes had been filled with 
epoxy.  Grain was duplicated and it looks great.  I have since experimented 
with replicating the grain and it's pretty easy to do with a toothpick or an 
awl while the epoxy is still soft.  I bought another MC dash that had not been 
restored a couple of years ago.  It's in my warehouse and I don't really recall 
the condition.  I will take a look at it and try to price it fairly if you 
think you might be interested.  If I remember correctly, all of the bracing is 
there.

As far as the swap, it's not very difficult.  You do have to be careful to 
support the dash while installing it, as it is kind of flimsy until properly 
braced.

Ron Griffith
Texarkana, TX  75501


http://elcaminocentral.com/gallery-album_rgriffs-71-SS-Clone.html
  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Solomon 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


  John,
   
  It is something I have wanted to do as well but it is a pricey conversion 
and that has held me back. You will need the dash carrier, gauge cluster, under 
dash wiring harness and vent balls. Also think there are one or two small steel 
brackets that are unique to the SS dash but not sure. Its my understanding that 
the aftermarket carrier has a fit issue at the glove box.
   
  Stay away from Monte Carlo dashes as they have holes drilled through the 
face that are used to attach the wood grain.
  70 gauge clusters are one year only if you want the correct green 
backlight. If it doesn't matter, 71's and 72's will also work.
  70 and 71 carriers are the same. In 72 they added a seat belt light next 
to the cigarette lighter.
   
  I will send you some jpg's off list of an article that explains the 
teardown and reinstall.

  Godspeed, Dan Solomon
  "It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
hurry."
  http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/








From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:27:42 -0400
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


Folks, 

How difficult would it be adapting an SS dash to a plain old 70 Malibu. 
I have a line on a beautiful 'grandma' Malibu that looks like it is going to be 
the baseline for the 70 Clone that I have been dreaming of building. The 
interior is an almost perfect white with a bench. The only thing that I would 
like todo to the interior is to adapt an M21 for the power glide and to replace 
the dash with an SS dash. Is the dash just a plain drop in dash that will 
connect to the stock wiring except for maybe the tach? Or will I need a whole 
new wiring harness. The motor would either be a 'turn key' ZZ4, or a crate 502. 
BUt I am leaning towards the ZZ4 as I can still get the AC to work with the 
pump on the ZZ4. 

Thanks in advanced for any advice, 
John from CT. 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question

[Daniel Solomon]

Ron,
 
How did you fix the hole that passes through the center of the words 
"wiper-washer"?Godspeed, Dan Solomon"It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
object to realize you are in a hurry."http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:19:08 
-0500Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question



I purchased a restored dash on eBay and then installed a Dakota Digital VF3 
Dash in my '71 Elky.  I cannot personally recommend the DD dash as mine has 
been a lot of trouble.  I have replaced the control box three times and am 
currently waiting on a replacement display unit.  They are great at honoring 
their lifetime warranty, but pulling the dash to replace parts can get old very 
quickly.  I believe Covan makes a gauge carrier that allows you to install 
pretty much any aftermarket gauges.  Of course the reproduction gauges are 
available as well. 
 
The restored dash was from a Monte Carlo and the holes had been filled with 
epoxy.  Grain was duplicated and it looks great.  I have since experimented 
with replicating the grain and it's pretty easy to do with a toothpick or an 
awl while the epoxy is still soft.  I bought another MC dash that had not been 
restored a couple of years ago.  It's in my warehouse and I don't really recall 
the condition.  I will take a look at it and try to price it fairly if you 
think you might be interested.  If I remember correctly, all of the bracing is 
there.
 
As far as the swap, it's not very difficult.  You do have to be careful to 
support the dash while installing it, as it is kind of flimsy until properly 
braced.
 
Ron GriffithTexarkana, TX  75501
 
 
http://elcaminocentral.com/gallery-album_rgriffs-71-SS-Clone.html

- Original Message - 
From: Daniel Solomon 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question
John, It is something I have wanted to do as well but it is a pricey conversion 
and that has held me back. You will need the dash carrier, gauge cluster, under 
dash wiring harness and vent balls. Also think there are one or two small steel 
brackets that are unique to the SS dash but not sure. Its my understanding that 
the aftermarket carrier has a fit issue at the glove box. Stay away from Monte 
Carlo dashes as they have holes drilled through the face that are used to 
attach the wood grain.70 gauge clusters are one year only if you want the 
correct green backlight. If it doesn't matter, 71's and 72's will also work.70 
and 71 carriers are the same. In 72 they added a seat belt light next to the 
cigarette lighter. I will send you some jpg's off list of an article that 
explains the teardown and reinstall.Godspeed, Dan Solomon"It is a mistake to 
allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
hurry."http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:27:42 
-0400Subject: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


Folks, 
 
How difficult would it be adapting an SS dash to a plain old 70 Malibu. I have 
a line on a beautiful 'grandma' Malibu that looks like it is going to be the 
baseline for the 70 Clone that I have been dreaming of building. The interior 
is an almost perfect white with a bench. The only thing that I would like todo 
to the interior is to adapt an M21 for the power glide and to replace the dash 
with an SS dash. Is the dash just a plain drop in dash that will connect to the 
stock wiring except for maybe the tach? Or will I need a whole new wiring 
harness. The motor would either be a 'turn key' ZZ4, or a crate 502. BUt I am 
leaning towards the ZZ4 as I can still get the AC to work with the pump on the 
ZZ4. 
 
Thanks in advanced for any advice, 
John from CT. 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question

[Ron Griffith]

I purchased a restored dash on eBay and then installed a Dakota Digital VF3 
Dash in my '71 Elky.  I cannot personally recommend the DD dash as mine has 
been a lot of trouble.  I have replaced the control box three times and am 
currently waiting on a replacement display unit.  They are great at honoring 
their lifetime warranty, but pulling the dash to replace parts can get old very 
quickly.  I believe Covan makes a gauge carrier that allows you to install 
pretty much any aftermarket gauges.  Of course the reproduction gauges are 
available as well. 

The restored dash was from a Monte Carlo and the holes had been filled with 
epoxy.  Grain was duplicated and it looks great.  I have since experimented 
with replicating the grain and it's pretty easy to do with a toothpick or an 
awl while the epoxy is still soft.  I bought another MC dash that had not been 
restored a couple of years ago.  It's in my warehouse and I don't really recall 
the condition.  I will take a look at it and try to price it fairly if you 
think you might be interested.  If I remember correctly, all of the bracing is 
there.

As far as the swap, it's not very difficult.  You do have to be careful to 
support the dash while installing it, as it is kind of flimsy until properly 
braced.

Ron Griffith
Texarkana, TX  75501


http://elcaminocentral.com/gallery-album_rgriffs-71-SS-Clone.html
  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Solomon 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


  John,
   
  It is something I have wanted to do as well but it is a pricey conversion and 
that has held me back. You will need the dash carrier, gauge cluster, under 
dash wiring harness and vent balls. Also think there are one or two small steel 
brackets that are unique to the SS dash but not sure. Its my understanding that 
the aftermarket carrier has a fit issue at the glove box.
   
  Stay away from Monte Carlo dashes as they have holes drilled through the face 
that are used to attach the wood grain.
  70 gauge clusters are one year only if you want the correct green backlight. 
If it doesn't matter, 71's and 72's will also work.
  70 and 71 carriers are the same. In 72 they added a seat belt light next to 
the cigarette lighter.
   
  I will send you some jpg's off list of an article that explains the teardown 
and reinstall.

  Godspeed, Dan Solomon
  "It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
hurry."
  http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/








From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:27:42 -0400
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


Folks, 

How difficult would it be adapting an SS dash to a plain old 70 Malibu. I 
have a line on a beautiful 'grandma' Malibu that looks like it is going to be 
the baseline for the 70 Clone that I have been dreaming of building. The 
interior is an almost perfect white with a bench. The only thing that I would 
like todo to the interior is to adapt an M21 for the power glide and to replace 
the dash with an SS dash. Is the dash just a plain drop in dash that will 
connect to the stock wiring except for maybe the tach? Or will I need a whole 
new wiring harness. The motor would either be a 'turn key' ZZ4, or a crate 502. 
BUt I am leaning towards the ZZ4 as I can still get the AC to work with the 
pump on the ZZ4. 

Thanks in advanced for any advice, 
John from CT. 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Off Topic - Disposing of Wheels

[Rick Schaefer]

  OOOPS - its ,org;  not .com  :  http://www.freecycle.org/

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Rick Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Check out freecyclers.com in your area.  Its a list where people offer up
> useable but unneeded items or request items that they need.   Its a person
> to person recycling program.  Or if not in your area put them on
> craigslist.com.  Someone will want them.
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:43 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>  Sorry, Jim, I'm in Orange County, CA.
>> Thanks,
>> Dennis
>>
>>  - Original Message -
>> *From:* Jim Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; The Chevelle Mailing 
>> List
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:33 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] Off Topic - Disposing of Wheels
>>
>> Dennis,  Where did you get the new(used) wheels?  If you lived closer I
>> would pick up your old ones.  My '99 Avalon's alloy wheels are corroded very
>> badly from the salt they use on the roads here in western NY.
>> Been looking in the junkyards for even Camry wheels as a temporary
>> solution.  Can't decide if I want the 21 or 22 inch chrome spinners.  JK
>>  Jim
>> __
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>  A new set of used aluminum wheels were purchased for my Toyota Avalon
>> this weekend.  I need to dispose of four excellent 15" steel wheels with
>> plastic wheel covers.  The tires are 205/65-R15, two are used and two are
>> very worn due to an alignment problem which wore the inner edge.  The covers
>> are in pretty good shape with only small rash areas.
>>  The question is how to dispose of them.  At most they might be worth
>> $50.  I prefer not to mess with trying to sell them but hate to put them in
>> a landfill if someone can use them.  I would happily give them to anyone who
>> would pick them up in OC.  Do you have any ideas?
>>  Thanks,
>> Dennis McGillis
>> 949-533-7211 cell
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Rick Schaefer
> 72 TPI El Camino
>
>


-- 
Rick Schaefer
72 TPI El Camino

Re: [Chevelle-list] Off Topic - Disposing of Wheels

[Rick Schaefer]

 Check out freecyclers.com in your area.  Its a list where people offer up
useable but unneeded items or request items that they need.   Its a person
to person recycling program.  Or if not in your area put them on
craigslist.com.  Someone will want them.

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:43 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  Sorry, Jim, I'm in Orange County, CA.
> Thanks,
> Dennis
>
>  - Original Message -
> *From:* Jim Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; The Chevelle Mailing 
> List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:33 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] Off Topic - Disposing of Wheels
>
> Dennis,  Where did you get the new(used) wheels?  If you lived closer I
> would pick up your old ones.  My '99 Avalon's alloy wheels are corroded very
> badly from the salt they use on the roads here in western NY.
> Been looking in the junkyards for even Camry wheels as a temporary
> solution.  Can't decide if I want the 21 or 22 inch chrome spinners.  JK
>  Jim
> __
>
> Hi Guys,
>  A new set of used aluminum wheels were purchased for my Toyota Avalon
> this weekend.  I need to dispose of four excellent 15" steel wheels with
> plastic wheel covers.  The tires are 205/65-R15, two are used and two are
> very worn due to an alignment problem which wore the inner edge.  The covers
> are in pretty good shape with only small rash areas.
>  The question is how to dispose of them.  At most they might be worth
> $50.  I prefer not to mess with trying to sell them but hate to put them in
> a landfill if someone can use them.  I would happily give them to anyone who
> would pick them up in OC.  Do you have any ideas?
>  Thanks,
> Dennis McGillis
> 949-533-7211 cell
>
>


-- 
Rick Schaefer
72 TPI El Camino

Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question

[Daniel Solomon]

John,
 
It is something I have wanted to do as well but it is a pricey conversion and 
that has held me back. You will need the dash carrier, gauge cluster, under 
dash wiring harness and vent balls. Also think there are one or two small steel 
brackets that are unique to the SS dash but not sure. Its my understanding that 
the aftermarket carrier has a fit issue at the glove box.
 
Stay away from Monte Carlo dashes as they have holes drilled through the face 
that are used to attach the wood grain.
70 gauge clusters are one year only if you want the correct green backlight. If 
it doesn't matter, 71's and 72's will also work.
70 and 71 carriers are the same. In 72 they added a seat belt light next to the 
cigarette lighter.
 
I will send you some jpg's off list of an article that explains the teardown 
and reinstall.Godspeed, Dan Solomon"It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
object to realize you are in a hurry."http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:27:42 
-0400Subject: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question



Folks, 
 
How difficult would it be adapting an SS dash to a plain old 70 Malibu. I have 
a line on a beautiful 'grandma' Malibu that looks like it is going to be the 
baseline for the 70 Clone that I have been dreaming of building. The interior 
is an almost perfect white with a bench. The only thing that I would like todo 
to the interior is to adapt an M21 for the power glide and to replace the dash 
with an SS dash. Is the dash just a plain drop in dash that will connect to the 
stock wiring except for maybe the tach? Or will I need a whole new wiring 
harness. The motor would either be a 'turn key' ZZ4, or a crate 502. BUt I am 
leaning towards the ZZ4 as I can still get the AC to work with the pump on the 
ZZ4. 
 
Thanks in advanced for any advice, 
John from CT. 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question

[bad66chevelle454]

 John,

It's pretty expensive. If I remember right, its roughly $2000. You have to buy 
the SS Dash, the SS gauge cluster, then buy new dash and engine wiring 
harness's. I've never done the conversion my self, so I dont know how difficult 
it isbut doesn't sound that hard, just time consuming. Good luck-

-Tim


 


 

-Original Message-
From: John Ziomek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Wed, 14 May 2008 8:27 am
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question
















Folks, 


?


How difficult would it be adapting an SS dash to a 
plain old 70 Malibu. I have a line on a beautiful 'grandma' Malibu that looks 
like it is going to be the baseline for the 70 Clone that I have been dreaming 
of building. The interior is an almost perfect white with a bench. The only 
thing?that I would like todo to the interior is to adapt an M21 
for the power glide and to replace the dash with an SS dash. Is the dash just a 
plain drop in dash that will connect to the stock wiring except for maybe the 
tach? Or will I need a whole new wiring harness. The motor would either be a 
'turn key' ZZ4, or a crate 502. BUt I am leaning towards the ZZ4 as I can still 
get the AC to work with the pump on the ZZ4. 


?


Thanks in advanced for any advice, 


John from CT. 

 

[Chevelle-list] Dash Question

[John Ziomek]

Folks, 

How difficult would it be adapting an SS dash to a plain old 70 Malibu. I have 
a line on a beautiful 'grandma' Malibu that looks like it is going to be the 
baseline for the 70 Clone that I have been dreaming of building. The interior 
is an almost perfect white with a bench. The only thing that I would like todo 
to the interior is to adapt an M21 for the power glide and to replace the dash 
with an SS dash. Is the dash just a plain drop in dash that will connect to the 
stock wiring except for maybe the tach? Or will I need a whole new wiring 
harness. The motor would either be a 'turn key' ZZ4, or a crate 502. BUt I am 
leaning towards the ZZ4 as I can still get the AC to work with the pump on the 
ZZ4. 

Thanks in advanced for any advice, 
John from CT. 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Off Topic - Disposing of Wheels

[dennis.mcgillis]

Sorry, Jim, I'm in Orange County, CA.
Thanks,
Dennis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Sullivan
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; The Chevelle Mailing List
  Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Off Topic - Disposing of Wheels


  Dennis,  Where did you get the new(used) wheels?  If you lived closer I 
would pick up your old ones.  My '99 Avalon's alloy wheels are corroded very 
badly from the salt they use on the roads here in western NY.
  Been looking in the junkyards for even Camry wheels as a temporary 
solution.  Can't decide if I want the 21 or 22 inch chrome spinners.  JK
  Jim
  __

Hi Guys,
 A new set of used aluminum wheels were purchased for my Toyota 
Avalon this weekend.  I need to dispose of four excellent 15" steel wheels 
with plastic wheel covers.  The tires are 205/65-R15, two are used and two 
are very worn due to an alignment problem which wore the inner edge.  The 
covers are in pretty good shape with only small rash areas.
 The question is how to dispose of them.  At most they might be 
worth $50.  I prefer not to mess with trying to sell them but hate to put 
them in a landfill if someone can use them.  I would happily give them to 
anyone who would pick them up in OC.  Do you have any ideas?
 Thanks,
Dennis McGillis
949-533-7211 cell

Re: [Chevelle-list] Off Topic - Disposing of Wheels

[Jim Sullivan]

Dennis,  Where did you get the new(used) wheels?  If you lived closer I would 
pick up your old ones.  My '99 Avalon's alloy wheels are corroded very badly 
from the salt they use on the roads here in western NY.
Been looking in the junkyards for even Camry wheels as a temporary solution.  
Can't decide if I want the 21 or 22 inch chrome spinners.  JK
Jim 


 
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:27 PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Off Topic - Disposing of Wheels


  Hi Guys,
   A new set of used aluminum wheels were purchased for my Toyota Avalon 
this weekend.  I need to dispose of four excellent 15" steel wheels with 
plastic wheel covers.  The tires are 205/65-R15, two are used and two are very 
worn due to an alignment problem which wore the inner edge.  The covers are in 
pretty good shape with only small rash areas.
   The question is how to dispose of them.  At most they might be worth 
$50.  I prefer not to mess with trying to sell them but hate to put them in a 
landfill if someone can use them.  I would happily give them to anyone who 
would pick them up in OC.  Do you have any ideas?
   Thanks,
  Dennis McGillis
  949-533-7211 cell

Re: [Chevelle-list] Off Topic - Disposing of Wheels

[Trooper]

I'm sure that with steel salvage prices of over $300 a ton a recycler would be 
glad to pick them up.
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:27 PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Off Topic - Disposing of Wheels


  Hi Guys,
   A new set of used aluminum wheels were purchased for my Toyota Avalon 
this weekend.  I need to dispose of four excellent 15" steel wheels with 
plastic wheel covers.  The tires are 205/65-R15, two are used and two are very 
worn due to an alignment problem which wore the inner edge.  The covers are in 
pretty good shape with only small rash areas.
   The question is how to dispose of them.  At most they might be worth 
$50.  I prefer not to mess with trying to sell them but hate to put them in a 
landfill if someone can use them.  I would happily give them to anyone who 
would pick them up in OC.  Do you have any ideas?
   Thanks,
  Dennis McGillis
  949-533-7211 cell