Re: [Chevelle-list] Sail Panels
I had my'71done by a professional, andthe sail panelsare coming loose anyhow. I wonder if GM used some sort of "miracle" adhesive back in the day ? BTW, good looking engine, Dan ! Larry I had some left over from the restoration that I performed on my Chevelle - they were original and looked a little used. I cleaned them up as well as I could but they just didn't look right so I got new material and tried to glue that on usung the 77 spray adhesive. I had to cut the darts as well to get it to form smoothly around the edges, etc. After one summer - they started to bubble a little, I ordered pre-done ones and those are in now - they are starting to bubble as well. I'll have to try something new. I think I'll have them recovered by a professional interior/trim business - maybe a thicker backer board will work. Bob, 71Chevelle SS Sbbut will be a 454 soon. Considering mine is far from original and I prefer a 69 or 70 style, the 70 would be the easy fix! The question is how much will the conversion cost. I’m dropping in a blown 468 in the car so it should move along.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Sail Panels
Bob, I didn't cover my sail panels, I bought them pre-covered. But I can offer you some advice based on my experience with adhesives. Some of this has already been said. You are going to want to use contact adhesive. The best bond would be with a liquid contact brushed on both surfaces. Porous material like fabric and board require two coats. Apply the first and allow it to dry. Apply the second and allow it to become tacky (does not stick to a clean finger) then press them together. Acid brushes work great for small areas. If you have done it right, you wont be able to pull it back off. Properly dried contact wont stick to anything but other contact coated surfaces. This will only be good for the back side as it will soak through the fabric. If you are concerned about the front side, I would recommend a 3M spray contact. Leave the fabric oversized. I would apply a coat to the board, a very light coat to the fabric and then a second coat on the board. Again wait till it becomes tacky (does not stick to a clean finger) and assemble. You might want a second set of hands because when it touches its stuck. Then you could start trimming, cutting darts, wrapping around the edges, etc. Unfortunatly the spray stuff is not going to work as well on the back side so the best results would be had by buying both the liquid and the spray. I have a quart of the liquid if its worth the road trip. Also have extra fabric if it doesn't turn out as you expected the first time. DanIt is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry.http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:04:49 -0800From: lhickmanf...@yahoo.comto: chevelle-l...@chevelles.netsubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sail Panels I had my '71 done by a professional, and the sail panels are coming loose anyhow. I wonder if GM used some sort of miracle adhesive back in the day ? BTW, good looking engine, Dan ! Larry I had some left over from the restoration that I performed on my Chevelle - they were original and looked a little used. I cleaned them up as well as I could but they just didn't look right so I got new material and tried to glue that on usung the 77 spray adhesive. I had to cut the darts as well to get it to form smoothly around the edges, etc. After one summer - they started to bubble a little, I ordered pre-done ones and those are in now - they are starting to bubble as well. I'll have to try something new. I think I'll have them recovered by a professional interior/trim business - maybe a thicker backer board will work. Bob, 71Chevelle SS Sb but will be a 454 soon. attachment: image001.jpg
Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 65, Issue 32
Good Morning Everyone, I really am blessed with some great friends. Thanks guys. For those who don't know, I am an agent and we represent many companys including the ones mentioned. Our goal is to find the best program for your specific situation. Thanks again guys. Happy New Year to all. Alex LaRue LaRue Insurance, Inc. (800)303-3518 P O Box 119 Fax (270)358-8978 54 Lincoln Square Hodgenville, KY 42748ACES 4711 -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of plgchevell...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:08 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 65, Issue 32 I'm with Alex also. First year, no claims. I'm curious what the increase will be, IF ANY, when I renew in January 09. Alex is a List Member, very professional knowledgeable, and easy to work with. Phil G. 65 SS MCC -Original Message- From: Michael Pell mjp...@prostreetcar.com To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 8:00 pm Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 65, Issue 32 I'll 3rd that.. And I have had a claim, and it went as great as you'd ever hope for. -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com http://www.prostreetcar.com/ Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (http://www.IndianaChevelles.com http://www.indianachevelles.com/ ) #6 Chuck Speake wrote: I second Alex. I have been with him since I got my 70 in 2002. The rates are reasonable. I haven't had a claim, but from everything said by all the other people on the list there shouldn't be a problem if I ever do. Chuck Speake 1970 Chevelle Malibu Glen Ellyn, IL. From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rich Pruett Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:14 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 65, Issue 32 Talk to Alex LaRue; http://www.larueinsurance.net/larueins.html He's a list member and a pretty straight guy. Rich 0D -- Just think, if it weren't for marriage, men would go through life thinking they had no faults at all. You can only be young once. But you can always be immature. --- Dave Barry -- Original message -- From: Don Holloway mailto:casadoc...@hotmail.com casadoc...@hotmail.com Can anyone recommend a classic car insurance company? Thanks Don From: chevelle-list-requ...@chevelles.net Subject: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 65, Issue 32 To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:00:01 -0700 Send Chevelle-list mailing list submissions to chevelle-list@chevelles.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles. http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net net or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to chevelle-list-requ...@chevelles.net You can reach the person managing the list at chevelle-list-ow...@chevelles.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Chevelle-list digest... --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: ric...@gmail.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sat, 2 7 Dec 2008 14:41:18 -0600 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] sail panel install Definitely brush on. And I'm not sure if I'm understanding John correctly, but I didn't use any glue on the good side. On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:01 AM, John Nasta 6...@johnnasta.com wrote: Sail panels are an ongoing battle for me. I did cut darts in the back. It becomes obvious when you start test-wrapping the material around the curves of the panel that this has to be done in order for it to conf orm. My mom also sews, quilts, etc. so it was not the first time I had ever heard of the concept. Anyway, the glue is another story. With any kind of contact cement it's important to spray both sides and let it dry a few minutes until it's tacky rather than wet (the Super 77 can says to bond when it is aggressively tacky). Hold the can 6 to 8 inches away, keep it moving and don't spray too much. If your headliner material is porous it can ooze out the other side and it is hard to get off. Maybe it's a symptom of the fact that I park outdoors in all kinds of weather, but mine fall down at least once a year, meaning that the material separates from the bo ards. I have tried 3M Headliner Adhesive as well as Super 77. Maybe some day I'll just buy the pre-done ones and get it over with. John -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: charles.e.ly...@navy.mil To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:01:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 2003 OPG poster-size calendar w/red 1967 SSConvertible I'd like to
[Chevelle-list] O/T Urgent Action Alert: Oppose Federal Vehicle Scrappage Program
**One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) ---BeginMessage--- To view this email as a web page, please follow this link Oppose Federal Cash for Clunkers Program Washington lawmakers are drafting a large economic stimulus package to help create jobs and rebuild infrastructure. They want to include a nationwide scrappage program which would give U.S. tax dollars to consumers who turn-in older cars to have them crushed, as a misguided attempt to spur new car sales. The lawmakers need to scrap this idea. The stimulus package is being drafted right now. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) wants to introduce the bill on January 6 and have it approved by Congress by January 20, so that President Obama can sign it into law after he is inaugurated. Contact House Speaker Nancy Pelosi IMMEDIATELY To Oppose Cash for Clunkers!Call: 202/225-0100Click here to send an electronic message: http://speaker.house.gov/contact/ __ Talking Points Oppose the Use of U.S. Taxpayer Dollars for Cash for Clunkers I am [calling/writing] to urge lawmakers not to include a Cash for Clunkers provision in the economic stimulus bill. Owners who turn in vehicles for crushing would receive a "minimal" payment to purchase a new car. This is a misguided attempt to spur car sales and claim that the countrys air quality or fleet fuel mileage is being improved. Cash for Clunkers programs threaten enthusiasts nationwide with the loss of valuable parts and parts-cars for repair, restoration, and customization projects. The programs also risk destroying classic, historic and special-interest vehicles, our American heritage. Cars turned in for scrappage often barely run, or are rarely-driven second or third vehicles that have a minimal impact on overall fuel economy or emissions. Cash for Clunkers programs will reduce the availability of affordable transportation and repair parts used by low-income drivers. It will also compete with the Salvation Army, the Purple Heart and other charities that rely on vehicle donations to raise money. Cash for Clunkers ignores better policy options. If Congress wants to act, support for repair and upgrade is a better choice and a win-win for consumers, dealers, manufacturers and repair shops. Significant emissions and fuel economy improvements can be achieved in older vehicles through relatively simple and inexpensive means: repaired/replaced exhaust systems, tune-ups, etc. We hope we can count on you to reject Cash for Clunkers. Thank you for your consideration on this very important matter. Please send a quick note and/or a copy of your message to Speaker Pelosi to: E-mail: bri...@sema.orgFax:202/783-6024 Terms under which this service is provided to you: sema.org/disclaimer SEMA's mailing address: 1575 S. Valley Vista Dr., Diamond Bar, CA 91765 Copyright 2007. Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) This message was intended for: harkema...@aol.com You were added to the system August 1, 2008. For more information click here. Unsubscribe ---End Message---
[Chevelle-list] Muscle Car Review: 69SS396 Chevelle vs. Yenko
Every time I think I've cleaned out my Chevelle coffers, I turn around another item I forgot I had comes to light. Today while I was looking for something on a shelf, I came across a Sept. 25, 2007 Muscle Car Review magazine whose feature article and cover, compares a stick SS396 to a Yenko (and includes some NICE photos too). Not sure if anyone is interested in having it (it's in MINT shape). If so, I'll take any reasonable offer for it. Jim -09-RT-Challenger- H. Jim's quote of the week: It doesn't matter WHO I am, it matters WHOSE I am (Rev. Hill) Click here to get you high school diploma (GED) in days http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1WXOvxLa9SoqF3mQ3obmkKNfuly4YudAEXi7Ov1Z7o0VVEb/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Sail Panels
I bought my sails pre covered also. however I thought I was supposed to fold the material over the edges and glue it. The original panels I took off were glued. So after doing this I thought I was ready to install. It was then that I realized the panels were not the same length as the originals. Now Iam not sure what to do. The panels I bought were from Legendary Auto Interiorsand they are not long enough to go from the rear side window molding to the bottom corner of the rear window. It leaves me with a void at the rear window,just before the molding. Any body have any ideas. And thank you all for all your help. Bob Lancaster- Original Message -From: "Daniel Solomon" dansolo...@msn.comTo: "The Chevelle Mailing List" chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:20:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sail Panels Bob,Ididn't cover my sail panels, I bought them pre-covered. But I can offer you some advice based on my experience with adhesives. Some of this has already been said.You are going to want to use contact adhesive. The best bond would be with a liquid contact brushed on both surfaces. Porous material like fabric and board require two coats. Apply the first and allow it to dry. Apply the second and allow it to become tacky (does not stick to a clean finger) then press them together. Acid brushes work great for small areas. If you have done it right, you wont be able to pull it back off. Properly dried contact wont stick to anything but other contact coated surfaces.This will only be good for the back side asit willsoak through the fabric.If you are concerned about the front side, I would recommend a 3M spray contact. Leave the fabric oversized. I would apply a coat to the board, a very light coat to the fabric and then a second coat on the board. Again wait till it becomes tacky (does not stick to a clean finger) and assemble. You might want a second set of hands because when it touches its stuck. Then you could start trimming, cutting darts, wrapping around the edges, etc. Unfortunatly the spray stuff is not going to work as well on the back side so the best results would be had by buying both the liquid and the spray.I have a quart of the liquid if its worth the road trip. Also have extra fabric if it doesn't turn out as you expected the first time.Dan"It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry."http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:04:49 -0800From: lhickmanf...@yahoo.comTo: chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sail Panels I had my'71done by a professional, andthe sail panelsare coming loose anyhow. I wonder if GM used some sort of "miracle" adhesive back in the day ? BTW, good looking engine, Dan ! Larry I had some left over from the restoration that I performed on my Chevelle - they were original and looked a little used. I cleaned them up as well as I could but they just didn't look right so I got new material and tried to glue that on usung the 77 spray adhesive. I had to cut the darts as well to get it to form smoothly around the edges, etc. After one summer - they started to bubble a little, I ordered pre-done ones and those are in now - they are starting to bubble as well. I'll have to try something new. I think I'll have them recovered by a professional interior/trim business - maybe a thicker backer board will work. Bob, 71Chevelle SS Sbbut will be a 454 soon. attachment: image001.jpg
Re: [Chevelle-list] Sail Panels
is there enough material there to add a little piece of cardboard the same thickness and then wrap the material around it?? maybe you could put some masking tape over the seam on the front before you put the material over it?? Harlan In a message dated 12/29/2008 4:54:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, rml...@comcast.net writes: I bought my sails pre covered also. however I thought I was supposed to fold the material over the edges and glue it. The original panels I took off were glued. So after doing this I thought I was ready to install. It was then that I realized the panels were not the same length as the originals. Now Iam not sure what to do. The panels I bought were from Legendary Auto Interiors and they are not long enough to go from the rear side window molding to the bottom corner of the rear window. It leaves me with a void at the rear window, just before the molding. Any body have any ideas. And thank you all for all your help. Bob Lancaster **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025)
Re: [Chevelle-list] Sail Panels
That might work on the other one. The one that I allready trimmed and glued I dont think there is enough material. I'll try it on the next one though. Thanks - Original Message - From: harkema...@aol.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 6:25:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sail Panels is there enough material there to add a little piece of cardboard the same thickness and then wrap the material around it?? maybe you could put some masking tape over the seam on the front before you put the material over it?? Harlan In a message dated 12/29/2008 4:54:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, rml...@comcast.net writes: I bought my sails pre covered also. however I thought I was supposed to fold the material over the edges and glue it. The original panels I took off were glued. So after doing this I thought I was ready to install. It was then that I realized the panels were not the same length as the originals. Now Iam not sure what to do. The panels I bought were from Legendary Auto Interiors and they are not long enough to go from the rear side window molding to the bottom corner of the rear window. It leaves me with a void at the rear window, just before the molding. Any body have any ideas. And thank you all for all your help. Bob Lancaster One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now .
Re: [Chevelle-list] Sail Panels
i think someone on the list said they had some extra material-- In a message dated 12/29/2008 5:46:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, rml...@comcast.net writes: That might work on the other one. The one that I allready trimmed and glued I dont think there is enough material. I'll try it on the next one though. Thanks **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025)
Re: [Chevelle-list] Converting a 72 Chevelle to a 70
usbody: Basket Contents reproduction fiberglass body components. I found them here. http://www.usbody.com/miva/merchant.mvc? All you need is the trim. From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Mascheck Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:38 PM To: countryroad...@yahoo.com; 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Converting a 72 Chevelle to a 70 Considering mine is far from original and I prefer a 69 or 70 style, the 70 would be the easy fix! The question is how much will the conversion cost. I'm dropping in a blown 468 in the car so it should move along. DSC04712_resize.JPG From: Josh Campbell [mailto:countryroad...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:39 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Converting a 72 Chevelle to a 70 It would definatly be easier and all if you were to look for a 70, but then again you're talking to a guy that would take a 68 Chevelle and put a 69 front end on it for the simple fact I like the small side marker lights on the 69 better than the big box of one on the 68. Or if you want to really screw with someone how about a '57 Chevrolet with a 56 front end? Muh ha ha ha! I took a set of fenders for a 66 Chevelle off a 67 model, I guess someone had the same thoughts as me or more than likely someone wrecked the thing knew where there was a 66 parts car and robbed its front end. Josh Campbell The Body Shop (606) 265-5301 66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisseree, 1st car never part with it) 66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the steering wheel) 87 Monte Carlo SS (The modern Chevelle especially when you add the right stuff) 71 Malibu (Something new to blow my money on) --- On Sun, 12/28/08, Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net wrote: From: Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Converting a 72 Chevelle to a 70 To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 4:53 PM The 72 dash harness WILL NOT WORK with the 1970 forward harnesses without MAJOR reconfiguration of the fuseblock. So if you plan on doing this, plan on buying a dash harness. The only front end parts you can use are the hood and hinges, everything else is different. Why not just look for a 70 instead of changing a 72? Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: Daniel Mascheck dmasch...@sbcglobal.net To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 2:24 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Converting a 72 Chevelle to a 70 I have a non original 1972 Chevelle and was wondering how much work and the approximate cost of converting it to a 70 style car!? Can anyone recommend a good source for a rear view mirror. I'm looking for one for my 46 Chevy truck. Dan -Original Message- From: Lynch, Charles E LCDR COMPCRON, N43 [mailto:charles.e.ly...@navy.mil] Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 4:01 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 2003 OPG poster-size calendar w/red 1967 SSConvertible I'd like to see the picture too. Charlie From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net on behalf of Jim Hunter Sent: Sat 12/27/2008 10:56 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] 2003 OPG poster-size calendar w/red 1967 SSConvertible Going through stuff in my car room today, I came across a 2003 OPG poster-size calendar w/red 1967 SS Convertible that I had framed in a 2'x3' poster frame years ago. To make room for some 2009 R/T posters that my brothers got me for Christmas, I'm going to be unframing this guy and I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in it and I have no idea it's worth. I'll let it go for a reasonable offer, as it belongs hanging up in some Chevelle guy's garage!!! I can send a photo of it! Jim H. P.S. Most of the other 68/69 Chevelle stuff I hd has been cleared out but I still have a few odds ends left: - a few 1/64 diecasts (unopened) - a couple of frameable prints - a 1/24 scale (unopened) AMT model - a couple of Chevelle cloth patches I guess I'll farm out that stuff to ebay in the next few weeks when I have time! Jim's thought of the week: Let's all remember to keep Jesus as the reason for the season! Inventors: Does your idea have potential for millions? Click for info. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw11luATEerr6rEKoiSATMQfozBO hbBkIVGnFDe7dT7wTzKVp/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 12/27/2008 8:49 PM image001.jpg
