Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ?
Rick, this was from an engine site I found... Chevy's specification for the rocker arm nuts are 1 turn down after zero lash is achieved. That's one complete turn after all ticking is gone. You must turn them slowly as the engine will run a little rough until the lifter bleeds down. I would suggest turning all valves to zero lash, no ticking. Then turn all valves a ¼ turn and let it recover. Keep doing this until all are 1 turn or 360°. - Original Message - From: Rick Schaefer To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? Thanx all. I had to search all over town for the correct seals. City of 100K with how many chevy/gmc pickups and no one stocks the O-Ring seals. Well almost no one.I did 1 cylinder just to get the hang of it frankly it was pretty easy.I took a bit of time to get the hang of the Lisle Valve Spring Tool but its really simple to use. I had to spend time with Mom today but I'll finish in the AM. BTW - Speaking of valve adjustment: Is 1/4 turn after slop is out of pushrod/rocker enough of a preload. Hydraulic roller lifters. On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Dan Anderson dbasd...@yahoo.com wrote: You are totally correct. What was I thinking? I guess I just zeroed in on adjust valves. --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net wrote: From: Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 6:35 AM That may work if you already have them adjusted, but if you do it that way initially after having the rocker arms off, you might damaged the lifters or the camshaft. If the rockers are too tight, you risk wiping out cam lobes. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: Dan Anderson To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? I like to adjust the valves with the motor warm and running. Back each one off, one at a time, then tighten 1/4 turn past when they stop clattering. An old valve cover with the top cut off comes in handy. They used to sell clips that attached to the rockers and plugged the push rods to keep the mess down. You can do each side in about a minute that way. --- On Fri, 5/8/09, Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net wrote: From: Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 6:20 PM You don't need to bring each cylinder up. The pressure from the hose is plenty to keep up. Bring #1 up so it so it's on the firing position before you do anything and leave the engine rest there. Makes it much easier to readjust the valves once you're done. It's a pretty straightforward job. Should take about an hour. When you remove the rocker arms and have the tool in place, compress the spring, pull the keepers off, then release the spring. Pull it off, pull old seal off, then slide the new seal on, reverse the procedure, and your done. Just make sure you adjust the valves properlythere is a specific sequence. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: Rick Schaefer To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? I am going to attempt to replace the valve seals on my 350 this weekend. I've never messed with heads at all, but am thinking it can't be too difficult. I have an air hose adapter to keep the valves in place and bought a valve spring compressing tool at Pate last weekend. I'll bring each cylinder to TDC, apply air, and use the tool to compress the spring and remove retainer keepers. I am assuming that the seals just slide over the valves. Is there anything more to it than that?Any Gotchas? Do I lubricate the seals before sliding over the valve stem? Are the keepers easy to align when I reassemble?I googled Valve seal replacement didn't find much to help. Anyone know of a web site with pictures? Thanx -- Rick Schaefer
Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ?
Thats for a running motor. I'm looking for an adjustment that works for an initial startup. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Malibu 327mal...@gmail.com wrote: * Rick, this was from an engine site I found... Chevy's specification for the rocker arm nuts are 1 turn down after zero lash is achieved. That's one complete turn after all ticking is gone. You must turn them slowly as the engine will run a little rough until the lifter bleeds down. I would suggest turning all valves to zero lash, no ticking. Then turn all valves a ¼ turn and let it recover. Keep doing this until all are 1 turn or 360°. * - Original Message - *From:* Rick Schaefer ric...@gmail.com *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? Thanx all. I had to search all over town for the correct seals. City of 100K with how many chevy/gmc pickups and no one stocks the O-Ring seals. Well almost no one.I did 1 cylinder just to get the hang of it frankly it was pretty easy.I took a bit of time to get the hang of the Lisle Valve Spring Tool but its really simple to use. I had to spend time with Mom today but I'll finish in the AM. BTW - Speaking of valve adjustment: Is 1/4 turn after slop is out of pushrod/rocker enough of a preload. Hydraulic roller lifters. On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Dan Anderson dbasd...@yahoo.com wrote: You are totally correct. What was I thinking? I guess I just zeroed in on adjust valves. --- On *Sun, 5/10/09, Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net* wrote: From: Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 6:35 AM That may work if you already have them adjusted, but if you do it that way initially after having the rocker arms off, you might damaged the lifters or the camshaft. If the rockers are too tight, you risk wiping out cam lobes. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - *From:* Dan Anderson dbasd...@yahoo.com *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net *Sent:* Saturday, May 09, 2009 10:32 PM *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? I like to adjust the valves with the motor warm and running. Back each one off, one at a time, then tighten 1/4 turn past when they stop clattering. An old valve cover with the top cut off comes in handy. They used to sell clips that attached to the rockers and plugged the push rods to keep the mess down. You can do each side in about a minute that way. --- On *Fri, 5/8/09, Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net* wrote: From: Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 6:20 PM You don't need to bring each cylinder up. The pressure from the hose is plenty to keep up. Bring #1 up so it so it's on the firing position before you do anything and leave the engine rest there. Makes it much easier to readjust the valves once you're done. It's a pretty straightforward job. Should take about an hour. When you remove the rocker arms and have the tool in place, compress the spring, pull the keepers off, then release the spring. Pull it off, pull old seal off, then slide the new seal on, reverse the procedure, and your done. Just make sure you adjust the valves properlythere is a specific sequence. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - *From:* Rick Schaefer ric...@gmail.com *To:* chevelle-list@chevelles.net *Sent:* Friday, May 08, 2009 9:07 PM *Subject:* [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? I am going to attempt to replace the valve seals on my 350 this weekend. I've never messed with heads at all, but am thinking it can't be too difficult. I have an air hose adapter to keep the valves in place and bought a valve spring compressing tool at Pate last weekend. I'll bring each cylinder to TDC, apply air, and use the tool to compress the spring and remove retainer keepers. I am assuming that the seals just slide over the valves. Is there anything more to it than that?Any Gotchas? Do I lubricate the seals before sliding over the valve stem? Are the keepers easy to align when I reassemble?I googled Valve seal replacement didn't find much to help. Anyone know of a web site with pictures? Thanx -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ?
Rick I sent an e-mail to your address with an attachment that shows the setting sequence - thanks Dale - sent in 3003. Larry Rick Schaefer wrote: Thats for a running motor. I'm looking for an adjustment that works for an initial startup. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Malibu 327mal...@gmail.com mailto:327mal...@gmail.com wrote: / Rick, this was from an engine site I found... *Chevy's specification for the rocker arm nuts are 1 turn down after zero lash is achieved. That's one complete turn after all ticking is gone. You must turn them slowly as the engine will run a little rough until the lifter bleeds down.* *I would suggest turning all valves to zero lash, no ticking. Then turn all valves a ¼ turn and let it recover. Keep doing this until all are 1 turn or 360°.* / - Original Message - *From:* Rick Schaefer mailto:ric...@gmail.com *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? Thanx all. I had to search all over town for the correct seals. City of 100K with how many chevy/gmc pickups and no one stocks the O-Ring seals. Well almost no one.I did 1 cylinder just to get the hang of it frankly it was pretty easy.I took a bit of time to get the hang of the Lisle Valve Spring Tool but its really simple to use. I had to spend time with Mom today but I'll finish in the AM. BTW - Speaking of valve adjustment: Is 1/4 turn after slop is out of pushrod/rocker enough of a preload. Hydraulic roller lifters. On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Dan Anderson dbasd...@yahoo.com mailto:dbasd...@yahoo.com wrote: You are totally correct. What was I thinking? I guess I just zeroed in on adjust valves. --- On *Sun, 5/10/09, Tom Rightler /bluess...@comcast.net mailto:bluess...@comcast.net/* wrote: From: Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net mailto:bluess...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 6:35 AM That may work if you already have them adjusted, but if you do it that way initially after having the rocker arms off, you might damaged the lifters or the camshaft. If the rockers are too tight, you risk wiping out cam lobes. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - *From:* Dan Anderson mailto:dbasd...@yahoo.com *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net *Sent:* Saturday, May 09, 2009 10:32 PM *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? I like to adjust the valves with the motor warm and running. Back each one off, one at a time, then tighten 1/4 turn past when they stop clattering. An old valve cover with the top cut off comes in handy. They used to sell clips that attached to the rockers and plugged the push rods to keep the mess down. You can do each side in about a minute that way. --- On *Fri, 5/8/09, Tom Rightler /bluess...@comcast.net mailto:bluess...@comcast.net/* wrote: From: Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net mailto:bluess...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 6:20 PM You don't need to bring each cylinder up. The pressure from the hose is plenty to keep up. Bring #1 up so it so it's on the firing position before you do anything and leave the engine rest there. Makes it much easier to readjust the valves once you're done. It's a pretty straightforward job. Should take about an hour. When you remove the rocker arms and have the tool in place, compress
Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ?
Hi Larry, Could you please send me this attachment too? roberto.4...@gmail.com tks Roberto Rempel -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Larry Williams Sent: Lunes, 11 de Mayo de 2009 10:21 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? Rick I sent an e-mail to your address with an attachment that shows the setting sequence - thanks Dale - sent in 3003. Larry Rick Schaefer wrote: Thats for a running motor. I'm looking for an adjustment that works for an initial startup. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Malibu 327mal...@gmail.com mailto:327mal...@gmail.com wrote: / Rick, this was from an engine site I found... *Chevy's specification for the rocker arm nuts are 1 turn down after zero lash is achieved. That's one complete turn after all ticking is gone. You must turn them slowly as the engine will run a little rough until the lifter bleeds down.* *I would suggest turning all valves to zero lash, no ticking. Then turn all valves a ¼ turn and let it recover. Keep doing this until all are 1 turn or 360°.* / - Original Message - *From:* Rick Schaefer mailto:ric...@gmail.com *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? Thanx all. I had to search all over town for the correct seals. City of 100K with how many chevy/gmc pickups and no one stocks the O-Ring seals. Well almost no one.I did 1 cylinder just to get the hang of it frankly it was pretty easy.I took a bit of time to get the hang of the Lisle Valve Spring Tool but its really simple to use. I had to spend time with Mom today but I'll finish in the AM. BTW - Speaking of valve adjustment: Is 1/4 turn after slop is out of pushrod/rocker enough of a preload. Hydraulic roller lifters. On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Dan Anderson dbasd...@yahoo.com mailto:dbasd...@yahoo.com wrote: You are totally correct. What was I thinking? I guess I just zeroed in on adjust valves. --- On *Sun, 5/10/09, Tom Rightler /bluess...@comcast.net mailto:bluess...@comcast.net/* wrote: From: Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net mailto:bluess...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 6:35 AM That may work if you already have them adjusted, but if you do it that way initially after having the rocker arms off, you might damaged the lifters or the camshaft. If the rockers are too tight, you risk wiping out cam lobes. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - *From:* Dan Anderson mailto:dbasd...@yahoo.com *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net *Sent:* Saturday, May 09, 2009 10:32 PM *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? I like to adjust the valves with the motor warm and running. Back each one off, one at a time, then tighten 1/4 turn past when they stop clattering. An old valve cover with the top cut off comes in handy. They used to sell clips that attached to the rockers and plugged the push rods to keep the mess down. You can do each side in about a minute that way. --- On *Fri, 5/8/09, Tom Rightler /bluess...@comcast.net mailto:bluess...@comcast.net/* wrote: From: Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net mailto:bluess...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Valve Seal Replacement ? To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 6:20 PM You don't need to bring each cylinder up. The pressure from the hose is plenty to keep up.
[Chevelle-list] valve lash sequence
If you don't mind I'd like to see the valve lash tightening sequence attachment also. Thank You, Jimmy.C col...@warwick.net or send it out to the list it seems to have generated some interest
Re: [Chevelle-list] valve lash sequence
I have a page for valve lash adjustment at http://www.chevellestuff.com/tech/vla.htm you might check and bookmark if satisfactory. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Jim Chris Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:10 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] valve lash sequence If you don't mind I'd like to see the valve lash tightening sequence attachment also. Thank You, Jimmy.C col...@warwick.net or send it out to the list it seems to have generated some interest
[Chevelle-list] new lift
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Re: [Chevelle-list] new lift
Nice setup for a standard garage. I'd love a lift had the floor of my shop poured 6 thick to support a lift. But don't know if I'd trust 2 bolts to hold it. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Jim H. Thompson jimthompso...@gmail.comwrote: Check out this video. http://www.maxjaxusa.com/maxjax-lifting-system/maxjax-video.html car lift American Chevelle Enthusiasts Society #03198 Team Chevelle #4424 http://picasaweb.google.com/JimThompsonCC/65MalibuSS02 http://www.jimhthompson.com -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino image001.jpg
