RE: [Chevelle-List] 6 cyl. motors
one of my friends from the suburbs of chicago runs a v6 under the hood in his 86 camaro. he has set national records with this engine and is one of the fastest 6 cyl. around. he recently ran 8.89 at 155.6 in the 1/4 mile. whoever said "nothing can replace cubic inches" i say go for it. its neat to see the looks on peoples face when they see a six under his hood -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 7:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 6 cyl. motors Hey, my friend did the same thing with his 56 Chevy. Sounds like a small block and runs with the best of them!!Little weird whe you pop the hood and see a 6!! but hey, if everyone ran the same thing, it'd be a boring world!!! Bob 71 Chevelle - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 6 cyl. motors
I remember some 6 cyl. Pontiacs that were pretty quick years ago. I don't see anything wrong with it. I personally wouldn't do it, but it's not my car. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In the early seventies, I used to watch this 67 deuce at the drag strip. He was running H/MP (modified production) at the time. The car was a little 2 door sedan with a 292 truck six, trips on a tunnel ram, cam, headers and some compression. It sounded a little bit odd after hearing tons of open header big-block cars, but the damn thing always made the trip down the quarter in the very low twelve second range with the front wheels of the ground in two gears. I saw him run an 11.97 once. The car was appropriately named Preparation H. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rob Thorburn Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 6 cyl. motors This sounds like a perfect project to put a turbocharger / mini-blower on! I think a turbocharger for a automatic car, and maybe a blower for a stick shift. Another fun idea would be to go with three Weber side drafts. You know that with a IR (Independent Runner) manifold that the throttle response is supposed to be fantastic. I know this seems hard to believe but, this combo is known for its good low to mid-range torque. Three two barrels would look VERY cool, and I think with a I-6 it solves a difficult manifolding problem. See lots of people want to slap on that Holley four barrel, like the V8 guys. The old single four barrel works great on a V6, or a V8, but the distance between the cylinders is much different on a I-6. If you try to run a single carb, it is a long distance to cylinders one and six, and a very short distance to cylinders three and four. The answer is multiple carbs, a warmed up rod cam, and some ten to one pistons! Rob '67 Chevelle, '67 El Camino (in a basket) - Original Message - From: "Reed McManus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 6 cyl. motors > Clifford Performance in Corona, California specializes in parts to make > a 6 cylinder run like an 8 cylinder. Mr. Clifford is a good guy. I don't > know if he still runs the business, or if his son does. I have heard of > some very quick 6 cylinder cars. > Give them a call. It beats looking at a catalog and wondering how > something will work. > Reed > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > OK Guys, > > This may sound a little strange, but hey, I'm a little strange. > > I have a 65 Malibu that is still mostly stock. I was toying around > > with swapping the engine to a small block, but now I have a new idea. > > I may decide to keep the 6 if I can build it to a semi respectable > > power level. I'm not looking to drag race, just be able to lay a > > little rubber down now and again. I've seen a 4 barrel Offenhauser > > intake in J.C. Whitney, but no headers or anything. Does building a > > 250 HP 194 C.I.D. engine sound unreasonable to you guys?? I just think > > it would be cool to pop open the hood and still have the 6 in there, > > and the car not be a dog is all. I realize i probably just opened > > myself up to some harassment here, so be gentle. :) > > Thanks all. > > > > Dan McIntosh > > 65 Malibu > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 6 cyl. motors
Hey, my friend did the same thing with his 56 Chevy. Sounds like a small block and runs with the best of them!!Little weird whe you pop the hood and see a 6!! but hey, if everyone ran the same thing, it'd be a boring world!!! Bob 71 Chevelle - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This sounds like a perfect project to put a turbocharger / mini-blower on! I think a turbocharger for a automatic car, and maybe a blower for a stick shift. Another fun idea would be to go with three Weber side drafts. You know that with a IR (Independent Runner) manifold that the throttle response is supposed to be fantastic. I know this seems hard to believe but, this combo is known for its good low to mid-range torque. Three two barrels would look VERY cool, and I think with a I-6 it solves a difficult manifolding problem. See lots of people want to slap on that Holley four barrel, like the V8 guys. The old single four barrel works great on a V6, or a V8, but the distance between the cylinders is much different on a I-6. If you try to run a single carb, it is a long distance to cylinders one and six, and a very short distance to cylinders three and four. The answer is multiple carbs, a warmed up rod cam, and some ten to one pistons! Rob '67 Chevelle, '67 El Camino (in a basket) - Original Message - From: "Reed McManus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 6 cyl. motors > Clifford Performance in Corona, California specializes in parts to make > a 6 cylinder run like an 8 cylinder. Mr. Clifford is a good guy. I don't > know if he still runs the business, or if his son does. I have heard of > some very quick 6 cylinder cars. > Give them a call. It beats looking at a catalog and wondering how > something will work. > Reed > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > OK Guys, > > This may sound a little strange, but hey, I'm a little strange. > > I have a 65 Malibu that is still mostly stock. I was toying around > > with swapping the engine to a small block, but now I have a new idea. > > I may decide to keep the 6 if I can build it to a semi respectable > > power level. I'm not looking to drag race, just be able to lay a > > little rubber down now and again. I've seen a 4 barrel Offenhauser > > intake in J.C. Whitney, but no headers or anything. Does building a > > 250 HP 194 C.I.D. engine sound unreasonable to you guys?? I just think > > it would be cool to pop open the hood and still have the 6 in there, > > and the car not be a dog is all. I realize i probably just opened > > myself up to some harassment here, so be gentle. :) > > Thanks all. > > > > Dan McIntosh > > 65 Malibu > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sounds like killer combanation. LUV them early chevelles. - Original Message - From: Kelly C. Hanna To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 6 cyl. motors I'm cloning the mother of all CHEVELLES. the Z16 the start of the SS396. mine is going to look like one but be all late model running gear (454/th400 with gear vendor OD, f**d 9 inch, 4 wheel disc brakes) I'm taking a factory power window /ac/tilt wheel car) that really wasn't a muscle car and making a pro street Z16. if people knew what i have into this crate the would say I'm nuts. well i am. you name an option available in 65 and I have it. But you know what? I really don't care what anyone else thinks. it is my car. Many of the parts I am putting on were z16 only parts. Many are NOS or original. Man that sounds lie a ton of funI think it would mean more to me to have that combo than an original. Kelly & Jana Hannawww.hannawoodworks.com
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When I get back into it I will send some pictures. Oh first I have to find the damn charger for my camera. Larry (z)
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Jack Clifford died last year but the business is still in operation. See http://www.cliffordperformance.com/home.htm Dale > > Clifford Performance in Corona, California specializes in parts to make > a 6 cylinder run like an 8 cylinder. Mr. Clifford is a good guy. I don't > know if he still runs the business, or if his son does. I have heard of > some very quick 6 cylinder cars. > Give them a call. It beats looking at a catalog and wondering how > something will work. > Reed > > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Clifford Performance in Corona, California specializes in parts to make a 6 cylinder run like an 8 cylinder. Mr. Clifford is a good guy. I don't know if he still runs the business, or if his son does. I have heard of some very quick 6 cylinder cars. Give them a call. It beats looking at a catalog and wondering how something will work. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > OK Guys, > This may sound a little strange, but hey, I'm a little strange. > I have a 65 Malibu that is still mostly stock. I was toying around > with swapping the engine to a small block, but now I have a new idea. > I may decide to keep the 6 if I can build it to a semi respectable > power level. I'm not looking to drag race, just be able to lay a > little rubber down now and again. I've seen a 4 barrel Offenhauser > intake in J.C. Whitney, but no headers or anything. Does building a > 250 HP 194 C.I.D. engine sound unreasonable to you guys?? I just think > it would be cool to pop open the hood and still have the 6 in there, > and the car not be a dog is all. I realize i probably just opened > myself up to some harassment here, so be gentle. :) > Thanks all. > > Dan McIntosh > 65 Malibu - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 6 cyl. motors
I'm cloning the mother of all CHEVELLES. the Z16 the start of the SS396. mine is going to look like one but be all late model running gear (454/th400 with gear vendor OD, f**d 9 inch, 4 wheel disc brakes) I'm taking a factory power window /ac/tilt wheel car) that really wasn't a muscle car and making a pro street Z16. if people knew what i have into this crate the would say I'm nuts. well i am. you name an option available in 65 and I have it. But you know what? I really don't care what anyone else thinks. it is my car. Many of the parts I am putting on were z16 only parts. Many are NOS or original. Man that sounds lie a ton of funI think it would mean more to me to have that combo than an original. Kelly & Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
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I think you can still get parts for a 250 & make pretty decent hp but am not sure about the 194. I doubt you could make 250hp & keep it streetable/dependable though. I think a healthy 6 would be different & pretty cool though. Don OK Guys, This may sound a little strange, but hey, I'm a little strange. I have a 65 Malibu that is still mostly stock. I was toying around with swapping the engine to a small block, but now I have a new idea. I may decide to keep the 6 if I can build it to a semi respectable power level. I'm not looking to drag race, just be able to lay a little rubber down now and again. I've seen a 4 barrel Offenhauser intake in J.C. Whitney, but no headers or anything. Does building a 250 HP 194 C.I.D. engine sound unreasonable to you guys?? I just think it would be cool to pop open the hood and still have the 6 in there, and the car not be a dog is all. I realize i probably just opened myself up to some harassment here, so be gentle. :) Thanks all. Dan McIntosh 65 Malibu
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GM was experimenting with turbocharging on the straight six in the early 1970's and was making good power with it. With today's technology a turbo and intercooler can make a lot of HP. Pontiac had an overhead cam straight six with a 4 BB carb on it. It made a good handling car because of the reduced weight over the front wheels. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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dan: that is great. not all cars have to be 600 HP. go for it. i don't think anyone on here thinks less of your car cuz it has a 6 . we are all chevelle nuts. what else matters. sure some have to have the big HP. some want them all pure. the SS thing? well myself I'm cloning the mother of all CHEVELLES. the Z16 the start of the SS396. mine is going to look like one but be all late model running gear (454/th400 with gear vendor OD, f**d 9 inch, 4 wheel disc brakes) I'm taking a factory power window /ac/tilt wheel car) that really wasn't a muscle car and making a pro street Z16. if people knew what i have into this crate the would say I'm nuts. well i am. you name an option available in 65 and I have it. But you know what? I really don't care what anyone else thinks. it is my car. Many of the parts I am putting on were z16 only parts. Many are NOS or original. Larry (z)
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OK Guys, This may sound a little strange, but hey, I'm a little strange. I have a 65 Malibu that is still mostly stock. I was toying around with swapping the engine to a small block, but now I have a new idea. I may decide to keep the 6 if I can build it to a semi respectable power level. I'm not looking to drag race, just be able to lay a little rubber down now and again. I've seen a 4 barrel Offenhauser intake in J.C. Whitney, but no headers or anything. Does building a 250 HP 194 C.I.D. engine sound unreasonable to you guys?? I just think it would be cool to pop open the hood and still have the 6 in there, and the car not be a dog is all. I realize i probably just opened myself up to some harassment here, so be gentle. :) Hey! I have a 250 ci 6-cyl in my 67. It still has the Powerglide, though, so it's not fast by any means. A trans swap is in the works, but I've done some things to the engine already. It's my daily driver. Clifford Performance seems to be the easiest place to get parts, and their website (www.cliffordperformance.com) is filled with useful stuff. They have a series of buildups using their parts from magazines, and they say 1 horse per cube is reachable. I bought a 4-bbl intake and headers from them. I'm running an Edelbrock 1404 carb, and have no complaints with it. The Clifford headers seem really long, however, and if your front end is sagging or lowered you might have header-speedbump issues. A Crane-points-replacement box, coil, and MSD box were all good investments too. Next is a cam swap. :-) Does this help? Dave. -- Does Jazz Put the Sin in Syncopation? /"\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN || NO ATTACHMENTS X AGAINST HTML MAIL || NO STATIONERY / \ AND POSTINGS|| NO GRAPHICS - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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One of the biggest names I remember in 6-cyl horsepower is Clifford Performance - http://www.cliffordperformance.com/ Everything you need to make a 6-cyl come alive to the tune of (their words) a 40% horsepower gain at the rear wheels. The only reference I have is the 190hp 230cid for 67 so I sort of doubt 250hp is reasonable with a 194 but it could still be a sleeper. BTW, I normally pass on Shock Wave intro pages but this one is really nice. Dale -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:21 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] 6 cyl. motorsOK Guys, This may sound a little strange, but hey, I'm a little strange. I have a 65 Malibu that is still mostly stock. I was toying around with swapping the engine to a small block, but now I have a new idea. I may decide to keep the 6 if I can build it to a semi respectable power level. I'm not looking to drag race, just be able to lay a little rubber down now and again. I've seen a 4 barrel Offenhauser intake in J.C. Whitney, but no headers or anything. Does building a 250 HP 194 C.I.D. engine sound unreasonable to you guys?? I just think it would be cool to pop open the hood and still have the 6 in there, and the car not be a dog is all. I realize i probably just opened myself up to some harassment here, so be gentle. :) Thanks all. Dan McIntosh 65 Malibu
[Chevelle-List] 6 cyl. motors
OK Guys, This may sound a little strange, but hey, I'm a little strange. I have a 65 Malibu that is still mostly stock. I was toying around with swapping the engine to a small block, but now I have a new idea. I may decide to keep the 6 if I can build it to a semi respectable power level. I'm not looking to drag race, just be able to lay a little rubber down now and again. I've seen a 4 barrel Offenhauser intake in J.C. Whitney, but no headers or anything. Does building a 250 HP 194 C.I.D. engine sound unreasonable to you guys?? I just think it would be cool to pop open the hood and still have the 6 in there, and the car not be a dog is all. I realize i probably just opened myself up to some harassment here, so be gentle. :) Thanks all. Dan McIntosh 65 Malibu