RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-16 Thread Dale McIntosh
Title: Message



No, 
no...I know you didn't mean the "K" implied the SS option...that's confirmed 
with the 138 VIN.  Just meant his was "probably" the letter Z instead of 
the second "7."  Probably some extra paint on the tag and bending over the 
fender and sometimes having to turn your head sideways makes it difficult 
sometimes. :*)
 
I 
use a couple of sources for information on trim tags and VINs.  One is the 
program available from TC (download for a price).  Another is my GM Parts 
& Accessory manual from 1971/72 that shows Chevelle parts from 64-71 (some 
72).  The same manual (along with some others) is photocopied on 
the Detroit Iron CD I also have for '67s.  This manual breaks down the 
models in a reference chart showing the models and their id such as "13517" and 
it differentiates between the "Chevelle," the "Chevelle Deluxe," "Malibu," 
etc.  Probably where people use the saying that, "All Malibus are 
Chevelles, but not all Chevelles are Malibus."  Where a 67 4-door 
sedan Malibu has a different model (such as 13535) than a 67 4-door sedan 
Chevelle and/or Chevelle Deluxe with 13335.
 
I'd 
be happy to scan the 4 pages that show model ids for 64 to 71 and pass those 
along via email if you'd like.  Email me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) off-line of course and I'll 
send them to you the same way
Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place Team 
67 Midwest Chevelles 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
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  On Behalf Of Mike SmithSent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:39 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right
  Dale I was not implying that the "K" signified that the car 
  was an SS model. I was saying, however, that the letter was missing. What 
  source are you using to id models and makes? If you want to email me off site 
  I'm at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and 
  we could talk more. Smitty
  
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From: 
    Dale McIntosh 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 7:43 
PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea 
Right

Me thinks he misread the "1383757."  My 
bet is it's probably the letter "Z" instead of the number "7" in 
the 7th character postion.  The "Z" simply means the car was 
assembled in Fremont and has nothing to do with it being a SS car.  The 
138 VIN signifies the SS.
Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place Team 67 Midwest Chevelles 

  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike 
  SmithSent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 6:02 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS 
  Yea Right
  Larry the 7th digit should be an alphabetic letter of 
  sorts. Mine is an SS and it reads # 138375K155424. notice the "K" id. ? 
  Smitty in SC
   


Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-16 Thread Mike Smith
Title: Message



to error is to be human. boy am I human, Smitty

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dale McIntosh 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 11:11 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea 
  Right
  
  Just a bit rushed like we all get ;*)
  Dale 
  Looks 
like I was a victim of bad typing :) 
Larry 
(z) 


Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-16 Thread Doug



any chance those answers are "yes dear"  "yes 
dear" "yes dear" "yes dear".

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 8:45 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea 
  Right
  well getting in a hurry cost me a perfect score in a class 
  this week. i missed four questions on the final  and they were answers i 
  use everyday. sometimes i need to slow down and smell the coffee. actually i 
  need to quit trying to make everything perfect. i never have any spare time 
  and part of the reason is because i get to anal. this week i had four finals 
  and worked 40 hours at a new job. 
  Larry 
  


Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-16 Thread Mike Smith



Larry. What source do you use to id your makes and models? 
smitty
You can reach me off site if you wanty to? [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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  Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 7:55 
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  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea 
  Right
  hum i was only looking the SS indication 13837 and didn't 
  really pay attention at the  7 Th. diget.i bet that 7 is supposed to be a 
  Z for Fremont any bets? thanks smitty 
  Larry 
  (Z) PS another forgotten consideration. in 1964 or 65 an SS did not 
  have to be a v-8 . they made 9,775 SS 6 cylinder in 1964 (8224 2dr coupe/ 
  151 converts) and 8,585 6 cylinders in 1964 (7452 2dr coupe and 1133 converts) 
  


Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-16 Thread Mike Smith
Title: Message



Dale I was not implying that the "K" signified that the car 
was an SS model. I was saying, however, that the letter was missing. What source 
are you using to id models and makes? If you want to email me off site I'm at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we could 
talk more. Smitty

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dale McIntosh 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 7:43 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea 
  Right
  
  Me thinks he misread the "1383757."  My 
  bet is it's probably the letter "Z" instead of the number "7" in the 
  7th character postion.  The "Z" simply means the car was assembled 
  in Fremont and has nothing to do with it being a SS car.  The 138 VIN 
  signifies the SS.
  Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place Team 
  67 Midwest Chevelles 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Mike SmithSent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 
6:02 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
[Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right
Larry the 7th digit should be an alphabetic letter of 
sorts. Mine is an SS and it reads # 138375K155424. notice the "K" id. ? 
Smitty in SC
 


Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-15 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
well getting in a hurry cost me a perfect score in a class this week. i missed four questions on the final  and they were answers i use everyday. sometimes i need to slow down and smell the coffee. actually i need to quit trying to make everything perfect. i never have any spare time and part of the reason is because i get to anal. this week i had four finals and worked 40 hours at a new job.
 Larry 


RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-15 Thread Dale McIntosh
Title: Message



Just a bit rushed like we all get ;*)
Dale 
Looks 
  like I was a victim of bad typing :) 
  Larry 
  (z) 


Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-15 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
Looks like I was a victim of bad typing :)
 Larry (z)


RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-15 Thread Dale McIntosh
Title: Message



True, but in the case of the 65, the 138 shows it to be a V8 
Malibu as opposed to a 137 6-cyl.  BTW, that's 1551 (not 
151) 6-cyl converts in 64 and your second group of figures are for 
65.
Dale 
 another forgotten consideration. in 1964 
or 65 an SS did not have to be a v-8 . they made 9,775 SS 6 cylinder in 1964 
(8224 2dr coupe/ 151 converts) and 8,585 6 cylinders in 1964 (7452 2dr coupe and 
1133 converts) 


Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-15 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
whoops thats 1551 6 cylinder converts not 151


Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-15 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
hum i was only looking the SS indication 13837 and didn't really pay attention at the  7 Th. diget.i bet that 7 is supposed to be a Z for Fremont any bets? thanks smitty
 Larry (Z)
PS
another forgotten consideration. in 1964 or 65 an SS did not have to be a v-8
. they made 9,775 SS 6 cylinder in 1964 (8224 2dr coupe/ 151 converts) and 8,585 6 cylinders in 1964 (7452 2dr coupe and 1133 converts) 


RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-15 Thread Dale McIntosh
Title: Message



Me 
thinks he misread the "1383757."  My bet is it's probably the 
letter "Z" instead of the number "7" in the 7th character 
postion.  The "Z" simply means the car was assembled in Fremont and 
has nothing to do with it being a SS car.  The 138 VIN signifies the 
SS.
Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place Team 
67 Midwest Chevelles 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Mike SmithSent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 6:02 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right
  Larry the 7th digit should be an alphabetic letter of sorts. 
  Mine is an SS and it reads # 138375K155424. notice the "K" id. ? Smitty in 
  SC
   


Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-15 Thread Mike Smith



Larry the 7th digit should be an alphabetic letter of sorts. 
Mine is an SS and it reads # 138375K155424. notice the "K" id. ? Smitty in 
SC

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 2:28 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea 
  Right
  Well, he answered me. It seems he made some changes and it 
  didn't show up after he made the changes. As you will see it is a true SS. 
   Larry 
  (Z) here was the emails: >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: 
  Question for seller -- Item #1874676693 >Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 
  09:59:16 PST > >would it be possible for you to give me the vin 
  number of this car? > 
   larry 
  Subj: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1874676693 
  Date: 12/14/2002 10:57:35 AM Pacific Standard Time From: 
     [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Plourd) To: 
     [EMAIL PROTECTED] i have listed it on 
  the ad by the miles stuff Subj: Re: Question for seller -- Item 
  #1874676693 Date: 12/14/2002 11:11:26 AM Pacific Standard Time 
  From: Z16CHEVELLEGUY To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sorry but nowhere 
  in your ad can i find the VIN numbers 
     larry Subj: Re: 
  Question for seller -- Item #1874676693 Date: 12/14/2002 11:18:06 AM 
  Pacific Standard Time From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad 
  Plourd) To:    [EMAIL PROTECTED] i am 
  sorry it must not have saved my changes to the ad, but it is 
  1383757161260. any other questions, dont hesitate. brad 



Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-14 Thread Dan McIntosh



Larry, 
I listed mine.
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6164&item=1871437665&rd=1
 
Dan McIntosh64 Impala SS
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 2:07 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea 
  Right
  dale: yes he should have enclosed the vin.but i looked at 
  his feedback and i couldn't find where he had sold anything before. it is 
  amazing how many chevelle owners assume that because they have SS emblems they 
  own an SS. i emailed him and asked for the VIN numbers. i will post the 
  results when and if he sends me. i guess my point is or was the guy is selling 
  a car and nowhere in the ad did he say he was the Guru of 65 chevelles and 
  knew all or said it was a perfect car. i thought except for the missing VIN he 
  did a nice job of describing the car and placing pictures. you should see how 
  bad some of the ebay ads are. i just looked at all the 65s for sale and didn't 
  find one with the VIN listed. 
  larry 
  (Z) 


Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-14 Thread Mikey



Oh Boy!. Now I can relax & get on with my 
weekend chores.
Mikey' 65 Chevelle SSACES# 03887

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 2:28 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea 
  Right
  Well, he answered me. It seems he made some changes and it 
  didn't show up after he made the changes. As you will see it is a true SS. 
   Larry 
  (Z) here was the emails: >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: 
  Question for seller -- Item #1874676693 >Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 
  09:59:16 PST > >would it be possible for you to give me the vin 
  number of this car? > 
   larry 
  Subj: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1874676693 
  Date: 12/14/2002 10:57:35 AM Pacific Standard Time From: 
     [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Plourd) To: 
     [EMAIL PROTECTED] i have listed it on 
  the ad by the miles stuff Subj: Re: Question for seller -- Item 
  #1874676693 Date: 12/14/2002 11:11:26 AM Pacific Standard Time 
  From: Z16CHEVELLEGUY To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sorry but nowhere 
  in your ad can i find the VIN numbers 
     larry Subj: Re: 
  Question for seller -- Item #1874676693 Date: 12/14/2002 11:18:06 AM 
  Pacific Standard Time From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad 
  Plourd) To:    [EMAIL PROTECTED] i am 
  sorry it must not have saved my changes to the ad, but it is 
  1383757161260. any other questions, dont hesitate. brad 



Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-14 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
Well, he answered me. It seems he made some changes and it didn't show up after he made the changes. As you will see it is a true SS.
  Larry (Z)
here was the emails:
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Question for seller -- Item #1874676693
>Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 09:59:16 PST
>
>would it be possible for you to give me the vin number of this car?
>  larry
Subj:   Re: Question for seller -- Item #1874676693 
Date:   12/14/2002 10:57:35 AM Pacific Standard Time
From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Plourd)
To:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]


i have listed it on the ad by the miles stuff

Subj:   Re: Question for seller -- Item #1874676693 
Date:   12/14/2002 11:11:26 AM Pacific Standard Time
From:   Z16CHEVELLEGUY  
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

I'm sorry but nowhere in your ad can i find the VIN numbers
    larry
Subj:   Re: Question for seller -- Item #1874676693 
Date:   12/14/2002 11:18:06 AM Pacific Standard Time
From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Plourd)
To:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

i am sorry it must not have saved my changes to the ad, but it is 
1383757161260. any other questions, dont hesitate.

brad




Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-14 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
dale:
yes he should have enclosed the vin.but i looked at his feedback and i couldn't find where he had sold anything before. it is amazing how many chevelle owners assume that because they have SS emblems they own an SS. i emailed him and asked for the VIN numbers. i will post the results when and if he sends me. i guess my point is or was the guy is selling a car and nowhere in the ad did he say he was the Guru of 65 chevelles and knew all or said it was a perfect car. i thought except for the missing VIN he did a nice job of describing the car and placing pictures. you should see how bad some of the ebay ads are. i just looked at all the 65s for sale and didn't find one with the VIN listed.
 larry (Z)


RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-14 Thread Dale McIntosh
Title: Message



I 
agree Larry, but if it IS a SS car like the ad claims, why not post the VIN to 
prove it?  I don't remember seeing ~clone~ or ~look alike~ in the ad.  
There is a block for the VIN when doing assembling the ad.  Anyone who 
claims a particular model, without clarification in the ad, and doens't include 
the VIN is suspect IMO.
Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place Team 
67 Midwest Chevelles 

  
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  On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, December 
  14, 2002 10:56 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea RightGeesh 
  the guy is selling the car not showing it. Nowhere did he misrepresent it and 
  or say it was a perfect car. he evens says this is not a show car. Maybe he 
  bought it that way. oh the wheels, air cleaner, interior, paint color, and the 
  way it sits isn't stock either. Shall I go on? 
  Larry 
  (Z) 


Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-14 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
Geesh the guy is selling the car not showing it. Nowhere did he misrepresent it and or say it was a perfect car. he evens says this is not a show car. Maybe he bought it that way. oh the wheels, air cleaner, interior, paint color, and the way it sits isn't stock either. Shall I go on?
 Larry (Z)


Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-14 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
And what is so obvious that he doesn't now?
 Larry (z)



RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-13 Thread Dale McIntosh
I would be suspicious since the VIN wasn't entered.  I've only sold one
car on ebay and there is a definate block for the VIN.  Putting ~used~
in the block makes it questionable.  Replacement parts and/or paint
could be the reason for the grille, cove, etc.

Dale McIntosh


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> 
> Thats a pretty broad statment to make because the rear
> cove outline isn't there, and the grille isn't blacked 
> out.There is not enough information from the description and 
> pictures to make that determinaton.
> 
> The 66SS came with a blacked out grille also, but I
> have seen a few that were re-done and the black taken
> off.
> 
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> > Am I missing anything?
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Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-13 Thread rocky hill
Thats a pretty broad statment to make because the rear
cove outline isn't there, and the grille isn't blacked
out.There is not enough information from the
description and pictures to make that determinaton.

The 66SS came with a blacked out grille also, but I
have seen a few that were re-done and the black taken
off.

Rocky
My66SS http://www.geocities.com/rocks66ss


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Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-13 Thread Mikey
Are you saying..just because of that, it might not be an SS? How
about the rocker mldgs missing also?
Mikey
' 65 Chevelle SS
ACES# 03887
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> The grill should be blacked out and the trunk lid should have a black
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Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-13 Thread HNielsen

The grill should be blacked out and the trunk lid should have a black
outline inside the outer trim,but not under the center letering.

Am I missing anything?

Harald Nielsen
Systems Specialist III
Lincoln Water System
(402)944-3306




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Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-13 Thread Graham Wooden

Please forgive me as I am completely ignorant on how to determine other than 
the VIN that this 65 Chevelle is not what it says - what where the items that 
you saw that tipped you off about this car?  I would like to know because I own 
a 67 SS (13817) and I am curious about other year's SS models.

-Graham.


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> Check this out.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1874676693
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[Chevelle-List] 65 SS Yea Right

2002-12-13 Thread HNielsen

Check this out.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1874676693

This guy obviously knows nothing about 65 SS Chevelle's





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