Re: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels
herb. i thought you were finished with the elky..the actual panels look great, jason pollock On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 07:07 PM, Herbert Lumpp wrote: Hi Jason, As long as the 67 kick panels fit my 66 and look like they fit, I'm not too concerned about the quality of the speakers. I like how the panels look like they weren't hacked up to fit the speakers. If the speakers sound that bad, I can always get a better pair. I would prefer to buy the panels w/o the speakers, but for some reason the Chevelle model is the only one not available w/o speakers. Of course, if I was building a different kind of car, then that's the one that wouldn't be available w/o speakers! :) cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino ACES 3509, MCC 528 http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - Original Message - From: jason pollock To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels herb, the difference between the 66 and 67 kick panels is..the 67 panels have the vent pulls as an integral part of the panel.the area the panels mount to should be in theory carbon copies.have you heard the speakers Herb?, i would try to check them before you buy. jason pollock On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 12:37 PM, Herbert Lumpp wrote: Thanks for the info, but unfortunately, it doesn't help - I should have worded my question better. What I want to do is order a set of Custom Autosound kick panels w/ speakers http://www.custom-autosound.com/chevelle_kick_panel_speakers.htm . The only one offered for 66 is non-AC while the 67 is for AC. Since I have ice cold Vintage Air I would prefer to get the 67 panels - the 66 panels have vent slots which I don't need in my Elky. In the picture the two panels look like they would be interchangeable. Does anyone know if the 66 & 67 panels will physically interchange? Thanks again! cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino ACES 3509, MCC 528 http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:43 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels According to the GM P&A book, C.A.C. is Car Air Conditioning (All Weather, 4 season, Deluxe) and was the regular side control A/C system you ~normally~ see (RPO C60) and used assembly line installed A/C components and is mixed with the heater. The lesser type of A/C was the dealer installed "hang on" (called Comfort-Car and has no RPO since it was dealer installed) that had the dial operated box hanging under the dash and didn't route ducts up in the dash or in the kick panels - sort of like http://www.team67.com/1967/gallery/survivors/gold_malibu_dash_inside.jpg. These were different styles as the dealer often either bought them through different suppliers or farmed them out for installation. The one in the picture above has the knobs side-by-side and the one in a 67 Chevelle dealer brochure has the knobs arranged one over the other Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place Team 67 Midwest Chevelles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels AFAIK, C.A.C. is comfotron air conditioner, which is the type that can be set by a little dial with temperature numbers on it rather than by a slider that just says hot & cold. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf OfDale McIntosh Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels Herb, My Detroit Iron CD for 67 ususally has parts listings for 64-72 stuff but in this case it doesn't. What it does show is for 14.630 group, the panel: 66 Malibu (exc. Sta. Wag., 4-Dr. Sed.) 4474360 R.H. (only one shown) 67 Chevelle (exc. C.A.C.) 7680402 R.H. 67 Chevelle (exc. C.A.C.) 7680421 L.H. (C.A.C. is air conditioning) it doesn't appear as though 66 (assumed 2-dr or conv from above) and 67 are the same panels. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place Team 67 Midwest Chevelles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf OfHerbert Lumpp Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 1:08 AM To: Chevelle List Subject: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels Does anyone know if the kick panels for '66 Chevelles/El Caminos are interchangeable with '67s or are they too different? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino ACES 3509, MCC 528 http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
Re: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels
Hi Jason, As long as the 67 kick panels fit my 66 and look like they fit, I'm not too concerned about the quality of the speakers. I like how the panels look like they weren't hacked up to fit the speakers. If the speakers sound that bad, I can always get a better pair. I would prefer to buy the panels w/o the speakers, but for some reason the Chevelle model is the only one not available w/o speakers. Of course, if I was building a different kind of car, then that's the one that wouldn't be available w/o speakers! :) cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - Original Message - From: jason pollock To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels herb,the difference between the 66 and 67 kick panels is..the 67 panels have the vent pulls as an integral part of the panel.the area the panels mount to should be in theory carbon copies.have you heard the speakers Herb?, i would try to check them before you buy.jason pollockOn Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 12:37 PM, Herbert Lumpp wrote: Thanks for the info, but unfortunately, it doesn't help - I should have worded my question better. What I want to do is order a set of Custom Autosound kick panels w/ speakers http://www.custom-autosound.com/chevelle_kick_panel_speakers.htm . The only one offered for 66 is non-AC while the 67 is for AC. Since I have ice cold Vintage Air I would prefer to get the 67 panels - the 66 panels have vent slots which I don't need in my Elky. In the picture the two panels look like they would be interchangeable. Does anyone know if the 66 & 67 panels will physically interchange? Thanks again!cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/- Original Message -From: Dale McIntoshTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:43 AMSubject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panelsAccording to the GM P&A book, C.A.C. is Car Air Conditioning (All Weather, 4 season, Deluxe) and was the regular side control A/C system you ~normally~ see (RPO C60) and used assembly line installed A/C components and is mixed with the heater. The lesser type of A/C was the dealer installed "hang on" (called Comfort-Car and has no RPO since it was dealer installed) that had the dial operated box hanging under the dash and didn't route ducts up in the dash or in the kick panels - sort of like http://www.team67.com/1967/gallery/survivors/gold_malibu_dash_inside.jpg. These were different styles as the dealer often either bought them through different suppliers or farmed them out for installation. The one in the picture above has the knobs side-by-side and the one in a 67 Chevelle dealer brochure has the knobs arranged one over the otherDale McIntoshTC Gold #92/ACES #170967SS/67 ElkyDales PlaceTeam 67Midwest Chevelles-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John NastaSent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:10 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panelsAFAIK, C.A.C. is comfotron air conditioner, which is the type that can be set by a little dial with temperature numbers on it rather than by a slider that just says hot & cold. John Nasta -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf OfDale McIntoshSent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:01 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels Herb, My Detroit Iron CD for 67 ususally has parts listings for 64-72 stuff but in this case it doesn't. What it does show is for 14.630 group, the panel:66 Malibu (exc. Sta. Wag., 4-Dr. Sed.) 4474360 R.H. (only one shown)67 Chevelle (exc. C.A.C.) 7680402 R.H.67 Chevelle (exc. C.A.C.) 7680421 L.H. (C.A.C. is air conditioning) it doesn't appear as though 66 (assumed 2-dr or conv from above) and 67 are the same panels.Dale McIntoshTC Gold #92/ACES #170967SS/67 ElkyDales PlaceTeam 67Midwest Chevelles-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf OfHerbert LumppSent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 1:08 AMTo: Chevelle ListSubject: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panelsDoes anyone know if the kick panels for '66 Chevelles/El Caminos are interchangeable with '67s or are they too different? Thanks.cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
Re: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels
herb, the difference between the 66 and 67 kick panels is..the 67 panels have the vent pulls as an integral part of the panel.the area the panels mount to should be in theory carbon copies.have you heard the speakers Herb?, i would try to check them before you buy. jason pollock On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 12:37 PM, Herbert Lumpp wrote: Thanks for the info, but unfortunately, it doesn't help - I should have worded my question better. What I want to do is order a set of Custom Autosound kick panels w/ speakers http://www.custom-autosound.com/chevelle_kick_panel_speakers.htm . The only one offered for 66 is non-AC while the 67 is for AC. Since I have ice cold Vintage Air I would prefer to get the 67 panels - the 66 panels have vent slots which I don't need in my Elky. In the picture the two panels look like they would be interchangeable. Does anyone know if the 66 & 67 panels will physically interchange? Thanks again! cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino ACES 3509, MCC 528 http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:43 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels According to the GM P&A book, C.A.C. is Car Air Conditioning (All Weather, 4 season, Deluxe) and was the regular side control A/C system you ~normally~ see (RPO C60) and used assembly line installed A/C components and is mixed with the heater. The lesser type of A/C was the dealer installed "hang on" (called Comfort-Car and has no RPO since it was dealer installed) that had the dial operated box hanging under the dash and didn't route ducts up in the dash or in the kick panels - sort of like http://www.team67.com/1967/gallery/survivors/gold_malibu_dash_inside.jpg. These were different styles as the dealer often either bought them through different suppliers or farmed them out for installation. The one in the picture above has the knobs side-by-side and the one in a 67 Chevelle dealer brochure has the knobs arranged one over the other Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place Team 67 Midwest Chevelles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels AFAIK, C.A.C. is comfotron air conditioner, which is the type that can be set by a little dial with temperature numbers on it rather than by a slider that just says hot & cold. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf OfDale McIntosh Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels Herb, My Detroit Iron CD for 67 ususally has parts listings for 64-72 stuff but in this case it doesn't. What it does show is for 14.630 group, the panel: 66 Malibu (exc. Sta. Wag., 4-Dr. Sed.) 4474360 R.H. (only one shown) 67 Chevelle (exc. C.A.C.) 7680402 R.H. 67 Chevelle (exc. C.A.C.) 7680421 L.H. (C.A.C. is air conditioning) it doesn't appear as though 66 (assumed 2-dr or conv from above) and 67 are the same panels. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place Team 67 Midwest Chevelles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf OfHerbert Lumpp Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 1:08 AM To: Chevelle List Subject: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels Does anyone know if the kick panels for '66 Chevelles/El Caminos are interchangeable with '67s or are they too different? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino ACES 3509, MCC 528 http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
Re: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels
Title: Message Thanks for the info, but unfortunately, it doesn't help - I should have worded my question better. What I want to do is order a set of Custom Autosound kick panels w/ speakers http://www.custom-autosound.com/chevelle_kick_panel_speakers.htm . The only one offered for 66 is non-AC while the 67 is for AC. Since I have ice cold Vintage Air I would prefer to get the 67 panels - the 66 panels have vent slots which I don't need in my Elky. In the picture the two panels look like they would be interchangeable. Does anyone know if the 66 & 67 panels will physically interchange? Thanks again! cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:43 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels According to the GM P&A book, C.A.C. is Car Air Conditioning (All Weather, 4 season, Deluxe) and was the regular side control A/C system you ~normally~ see (RPO C60) and used assembly line installed A/C components and is mixed with the heater. The lesser type of A/C was the dealer installed "hang on" (called Comfort-Car and has no RPO since it was dealer installed) that had the dial operated box hanging under the dash and didn't route ducts up in the dash or in the kick panels - sort of like http://www.team67.com/1967/gallery/survivors/gold_malibu_dash_inside.jpg. These were different styles as the dealer often either bought them through different suppliers or farmed them out for installation. The one in the picture above has the knobs side-by-side and the one in a 67 Chevelle dealer brochure has the knobs arranged one over the other Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place Team 67 Midwest Chevelles -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John NastaSent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:10 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels AFAIK, C.A.C. is comfotron air conditioner, which is the type that can be set by a little dial with temperature numbers on it rather than by a slider that just says hot & cold. John Nasta -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale McIntoshSent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:01 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels Herb, My Detroit Iron CD for 67 ususally has parts listings for 64-72 stuff but in this case it doesn't. What it does show is for 14.630 group, the panel: 66 Malibu (exc. Sta. Wag., 4-Dr. Sed.) 4474360 R.H. (only one shown) 67 Chevelle (exc. C.A.C.) 7680402 R.H. 67 Chevelle (exc. C.A.C.) 7680421 L.H. (C.A.C. is air conditioning) it doesn't appear as though 66 (assumed 2-dr or conv from above) and 67 are the same panels. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place Team 67 Midwest Chevelles -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Herbert LumppSent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 1:08 AMTo: Chevelle ListSubject: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels Does anyone know if the kick panels for '66 Chevelles/El Caminos are interchangeable with '67s or are they too different? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels
Title: Message According to the GM P&A book, C.A.C. is Car Air Conditioning (All Weather, 4 season, Deluxe) and was the regular side control A/C system you ~normally~ see (RPO C60) and used assembly line installed A/C components and is mixed with the heater. The lesser type of A/C was the dealer installed "hang on" (called Comfort-Car and has no RPO since it was dealer installed) that had the dial operated box hanging under the dash and didn't route ducts up in the dash or in the kick panels - sort of like http://www.team67.com/1967/gallery/survivors/gold_malibu_dash_inside.jpg. These were different styles as the dealer often either bought them through different suppliers or farmed them out for installation. The one in the picture above has the knobs side-by-side and the one in a 67 Chevelle dealer brochure has the knobs arranged one over the other Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place Team 67 Midwest Chevelles -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John NastaSent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:10 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels AFAIK, C.A.C. is comfotron air conditioner, which is the type that can be set by a little dial with temperature numbers on it rather than by a slider that just says hot & cold. John Nasta -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale McIntoshSent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:01 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels Herb, My Detroit Iron CD for 67 ususally has parts listings for 64-72 stuff but in this case it doesn't. What it does show is for 14.630 group, the panel: 66 Malibu (exc. Sta. Wag., 4-Dr. Sed.) 4474360 R.H. (only one shown) 67 Chevelle (exc. C.A.C.) 7680402 R.H. 67 Chevelle (exc. C.A.C.) 7680421 L.H. (C.A.C. is air conditioning) it doesn't appear as though 66 (assumed 2-dr or conv from above) and 67 are the same panels. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place Team 67 Midwest Chevelles -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Herbert LumppSent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 1:08 AMTo: Chevelle ListSubject: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels Does anyone know if the kick panels for '66 Chevelles/El Caminos are interchangeable with '67s or are they too different? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels
Title: Message AFAIK, C.A.C. is comfotron air conditioner, which is the type that can be set by a little dial with temperature numbers on it rather than by a slider that just says hot & cold. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale McIntosh Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels Herb, My Detroit Iron CD for 67 ususally has parts listings for 64-72 stuff but in this case it doesn't. What it does show is for 14.630 group, the panel: 66 Malibu (exc. Sta. Wag., 4-Dr. Sed.) 4474360 R.H. (only one shown) 67 Chevelle (exc. C.A.C.) 7680402 R.H. 67 Chevelle (exc. C.A.C.) 7680421 L.H. (C.A.C. is air conditioning) it doesn't appear as though 66 (assumed 2-dr or conv from above) and 67 are the same panels. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place Team 67 Midwest Chevelles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Herbert Lumpp Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 1:08 AM To: Chevelle List Subject: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels Does anyone know if the kick panels for '66 Chevelles/El Caminos are interchangeable with '67s or are they too different? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino ACES 3509, MCC 528 http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels
Title: Message Herb, My Detroit Iron CD for 67 ususally has parts listings for 64-72 stuff but in this case it doesn't. What it does show is for 14.630 group, the panel: 66 Malibu (exc. Sta. Wag., 4-Dr. Sed.) 4474360 R.H. (only one shown) 67 Chevelle (exc. C.A.C.) 7680402 R.H. 67 Chevelle (exc. C.A.C.) 7680421 L.H. (C.A.C. is air conditioning) it doesn't appear as though 66 (assumed 2-dr or conv from above) and 67 are the same panels. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place Team 67 Midwest Chevelles -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Herbert LumppSent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 1:08 AMTo: Chevelle ListSubject: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels Does anyone know if the kick panels for '66 Chevelles/El Caminos are interchangeable with '67s or are they too different? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
Re: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels
herb, if you want them to be functional they wont interchange. 65 will jason pollock On Friday, December 27, 2002, at 11:07 PM, Herbert Lumpp wrote: Does anyone know if the kick panels for '66 Chevelles/El Caminos are interchangeable with '67s or are they too different? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino ACES 3509, MCC 528 http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
[Chevelle-List] 66-67 Kick panels
Does anyone know if the kick panels for '66 Chevelles/El Caminos are interchangeable with '67s or are they too different? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
