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The holes are there to drain rain water. But people use them for reference. Use the indentation. I have been told that the springs will walk and place themselves once you start driving. Try just placing the spring in there without the shock and raising the lower arm with a jack. Keep it loose enough that you can spin the spring around by hand and see if it clicks in place. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim & Chris Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 2:02 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] coil springs continued there is an indentation in the lower control arm that the end of the coil spring would fit in nicely but it would cover both weep holes. today I looked in the assembly manual (that I couldnt find yesterday) and it said that one hole has to be left uncovered/open and in the illustration it looks like the end of the spring falls inbetween the two holes. does anyone have practicle experience with this. is it possible the indentation in the control arm has nothing to do with the spring ? I'm tempted to let the spring sit in the indentation and drill two more holes on the opposit side ?? penny for your thoughts. Jimmy.C
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Thanks for the piece of mind Rick, I already intalled the driver side since I posted ,the way the manual said to , inbetween the holes. it was just buggin me. I thought I was misunderstanding something. thanks again,Jimmy.C - Original Message - From: Rick Schaefer To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] coil springs continued Why go out on your own?- When the engineers who wrote the book & built the car want the end of the spring between the 2 holes. I installed mine IAW the Assembly Manual & haven't had a problem. If you are installing a special application spring, you might want to call the vender/manufacturer and hear what they say, otherwise with a stock replacement spring I'd install it IAW the Assembly Manual. On 6/14/08, Jim & Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: there is an indentation in the lower control arm that the end of the coil spring would fit in nicely but it would cover both weep holes. today I looked in the assembly manual (that I couldnt find yesterday) and it said that one hole has to be left uncovered/open and in the illustration it looks like the end of the spring falls inbetween the two holes. does anyone have practicle experience with this. is it possible the indentation in the control arm has nothing to do with the spring ? I'm tempted to let the spring sit in the indentation and drill two more holes on the opposit side ?? penny for your thoughts. Jimmy.C -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.36/1041 - Release Date: 10/1/2007 10:20 AM
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Why go out on your own?- When the engineers who wrote the book & built the car want the end of the spring between the 2 holes. I installed mine IAW the Assembly Manual & haven't had a problem. If you are installing a special application spring, you might want to call the vender/manufacturer and hear what they say, otherwise with a stock replacement spring I'd install it IAW the Assembly Manual. On 6/14/08, Jim & Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *there is an indentation in the lower control arm that the end of the > coil spring would fit in nicely but it would cover both weep holes. today I > looked in the assembly manual (that I couldnt find yesterday) and it said > that one hole has to be left uncovered/open and in the illustration it looks > like the end of the spring falls inbetween the two holes. does anyone have > practicle experience with this. is it possible the indentation in the > control arm has nothing to do with the spring ? I'm tempted to let the > spring sit in the indentation and drill two more holes on the opposit side > ?? penny for your thoughts. Jimmy.C* > -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
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there is an indentation in the lower control arm that the end of the coil spring would fit in nicely but it would cover both weep holes. today I looked in the assembly manual (that I couldnt find yesterday) and it said that one hole has to be left uncovered/open and in the illustration it looks like the end of the spring falls inbetween the two holes. does anyone have practicle experience with this. is it possible the indentation in the control arm has nothing to do with the spring ? I'm tempted to let the spring sit in the indentation and drill two more holes on the opposit side ?? penny for your thoughts. Jimmy.C
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Hello:you can take a long piece of threaded rod,what ever size will fit through the upper hole where the shock would mount,this is usually at least 1/2"threaded rod can work.Usuing a plate that will stop against the lower control arm,you can use the threaded rod to act as your spring installer.This works really good and is very safe.Always inspect the threaded rod for stress before using it again for safety sake. From: "Jim Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Coil Springs If any doubt about your compressor, it wouldn't hurt to use a safety chain as well. When I was gathering info about doing mine, many guys suggested it. I'd rather be lucky than good any day. Thank God I was lucky. - Original Message - From: "mike f" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Coil Springs you should be very careful and compress the spring shorter than the what it takes to thread the bottom spindle bolt and nut on. Then you un wind the compressor. Are the springs the same as the old ones? mike --- langus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carl > Here is the kicker...I am using a coil spring > compresser. I just dont think I have my order of > operations in the correct order. Like I said...this > is such a dumb problem but it has got the best of me > for the last few hours. > > Ryan Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com
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If any doubt about your compressor, it wouldn't hurt to use a safety chain as well. When I was gathering info about doing mine, many guys suggested it. I'd rather be lucky than good any day. Thank God I was lucky. - Original Message - From: "mike f" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Coil Springs > you should be very careful and compress the spring > shorter than the what it takes to thread the bottom > spindle bolt and nut on. Then you un wind the > compressor. Are the springs the same as the old ones? > mike > --- langus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Carl > > Here is the kicker...I am using a coil spring > > compresser. I just dont think I have my order of > > operations in the correct order. Like I said...this > > is such a dumb problem but it has got the best of me > > for the last few hours. > > > > Ryan > > > > > > Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. > Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com >
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you should be very careful and compress the spring shorter than the what it takes to thread the bottom spindle bolt and nut on. Then you un wind the compressor. Are the springs the same as the old ones? mike --- langus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carl > Here is the kicker...I am using a coil spring > compresser. I just dont think I have my order of > operations in the correct order. Like I said...this > is such a dumb problem but it has got the best of me > for the last few hours. > > Ryan Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com
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Having rebuilt the chassis on my '71 El Camino while it was stripped for a frame-off, I wasn't looking forward to doing the same on the '67 convertible I'm working on. On the 70 mile drive home from the powder coater I had an epiphany. I simply backed the trailer into my shop, loosened the ratcheting straps that were holding the frame on the trailer, jacked the trailer up, placed jack stands under it, then reinstalled the ratcheting cables. The frame was now held down with straps and I was able to jack the control arms and rear end up an down just as I would've with the body on and the engine installed. Handy working height, too. I found that it was easier to do without the spring compressor, although I did throw a chain around the springs for safety sake. Worked Great! Ron Griffith http://elcaminocentral.com/gallery-album_rgriffs-71-SS-Clone.html - Original Message - From: Carl Ziegler To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Coil Springs Dropping the whole lower control arm would help. Still would be a bugger to do without some weight. - Original Message From: Pelle Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2006 5:39:26 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Coil Springs My BB coils where a pita to get in to place. My compressors where too weak L I ended up leaving the problem to a shop which also had a hard time getting them in to place. He described the procedure as having “dropped the whole front suspension down” to get them in to place. Exactly what he meant by that I’m not sure, sorry! Pelle -- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För langus Skickat: den 4 december 2006 00:06 Till: Chevelle Chat Forum Ämne: [Chevelle-list] Coil Springs I need you guys to bail me out once again I took my front coil springs out last fall with no problem. However, trying to put the new ones back in is prooving to be a bigger task than I thought. I have read how other people on the new claim to have done it but they just dont seem to be working for me. How have you guys done it? The motor is out and I am putting in big block springs. Are there any tips or tricks out there you guys can share with me? I'll take anything at this point. It seems like suck a dumb thing to have a problem with but that is just how things work in my garage. Thanks again Ryan -- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
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Dropping the whole lower control arm would help. Still would be a bugger to do without some weight. - Original Message From: Pelle Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2006 5:39:26 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Coil Springs My BB coils where a pita to get in to place. My compressors where too weak L I ended up leaving the problem to a shop which also had a hard time getting them in to place. He described the procedure as having “dropped the whole front suspension down” to get them in to place. Exactly what he meant by that I’m not sure, sorry! Pelle Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För langus Skickat: den 4 december 2006 00:06 Till: Chevelle Chat Forum Ämne: [Chevelle-list] Coil Springs I need you guys to bail me out once again I took my front coil springs out last fall with no problem. However, trying to put the new ones back in is prooving to be a bigger task than I thought. I have read how other people on the new claim to have done it but they just dont seem to be working for me. How have you guys done it? The motor is out and I am putting in big block springs. Are there any tips or tricks out there you guys can share with me? I'll take anything at this point. It seems like suck a dumb thing to have a problem with but that is just how things work in my garage. Thanks again Ryan Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
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My BB coils where a pita to get in to place. My compressors where too weak :-( I ended up leaving the problem to a shop which also had a hard time getting them in to place. He described the procedure as having dropped the whole front suspension down to get them in to place. Exactly what he meant by that Im not sure, sorry! Pelle _ Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För langus Skickat: den 4 december 2006 00:06 Till: Chevelle Chat Forum Ämne: [Chevelle-list] Coil Springs I need you guys to bail me out once again I took my front coil springs out last fall with no problem. However, trying to put the new ones back in is prooving to be a bigger task than I thought. I have read how other people on the new claim to have done it but they just dont seem to be working for me. How have you guys done it? The motor is out and I am putting in big block springs. Are there any tips or tricks out there you guys can share with me? I'll take anything at this point. It seems like suck a dumb thing to have a problem with but that is just how things work in my garage. Thanks again Ryan
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Ryan, unless they're wrong for the car they have to go in. In the pocket on frame is the spring coming in contact or maybe the compressor hitting??? - Original Message From: langus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2006 5:16:33 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Coil Springs Carl Here is the kicker...I am using a coil spring compresser. I just dont think I have my order of operations in the correct order. Like I said...this is such a dumb problem but it has got the best of me for the last few hours. Ryan Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
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Maybe this can give you some new ideas?? http://hem.bredband.net/chevellegearheads/documents/front <http://hem.bredband.net/chevellegearheads/documents/front%20spring%20remova l.pdf> spring removal.pdf B.R. Pelle _ Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För langus Skickat: den 4 december 2006 00:17 Till: The Chevelle Mailing List Ämne: Re: [Chevelle-list] Coil Springs Carl Here is the kicker...I am using a coil spring compresser. I just dont think I have my order of operations in the correct order. Like I said...this is such a dumb problem but it has got the best of me for the last few hours. Ryan
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Carl Here is the kicker...I am using a coil spring compresser. I just dont think I have my order of operations in the correct order. Like I said...this is such a dumb problem but it has got the best of me for the last few hours. Ryan
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I am pretty sure you won't be able to put them in without the use of a spring compressor with the engine not in the car. My $.02 - Original Message From: langus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Chevelle Chat Forum Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2006 5:05:38 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Coil Springs I need you guys to bail me out once again I took my front coil springs out last fall with no problem. However, trying to put the new ones back in is prooving to be a bigger task than I thought. I have read how other people on the new claim to have done it but they just dont seem to be working for me. How have you guys done it? The motor is out and I am putting in big block springs. Are there any tips or tricks out there you guys can share with me? I'll take anything at this point. It seems like suck a dumb thing to have a problem with but that is just how things work in my garage. Thanks again Ryan Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
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I need you guys to bail me out once again I took my front coil springs out last fall with no problem. However, trying to put the new ones back in is prooving to be a bigger task than I thought. I have read how other people on the new claim to have done it but they just dont seem to be working for me. How have you guys done it? The motor is out and I am putting in big block springs. Are there any tips or tricks out there you guys can share with me? I'll take anything at this point. It seems like suck a dumb thing to have a problem with but that is just how things work in my garage. Thanks again Ryan
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Hey man sorry, but those wont work. I got a disc brake kit with 2" drop spindles so im cutting it close on clearance on my 64 wagon. thanx anyway Mack --- Herb Lumpp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mack, > > The springs are lowered and about 4 years old. They > have a poly (?) coating > that is still intact. The reason I took them out is > because I have a Global > West negative roll front suspension and it requires > a specific spring. The > GW stuff combined with the weight of a big block > made the front end just a > little bit too low. > > I'm sure with a small block and a standard front > suspension setup they > should work just fine. > > Herb Lumpp > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Mack Miller > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:04 PM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Coil springs for > sale... > > > Are they stock height or lowered? how old? > thanx > Mack > > --- Herb Lumpp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I just replaced the Edelbrock small block springs > > that were on my Elky with > > a set of Global West big block springs. If anyone > > is interested I'd like to > > get $100 (plus shipping) for the set of four. > > > ___ > Chevelle-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Hi Mack, The springs are lowered and about 4 years old. They have a poly (?) coating that is still intact. The reason I took them out is because I have a Global West negative roll front suspension and it requires a specific spring. The GW stuff combined with the weight of a big block made the front end just a little bit too low. I'm sure with a small block and a standard front suspension setup they should work just fine. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mack Miller Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:04 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Coil springs for sale... Are they stock height or lowered? how old? thanx Mack --- Herb Lumpp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I just replaced the Edelbrock small block springs > that were on my Elky with > a set of Global West big block springs. If anyone > is interested I'd like to > get $100 (plus shipping) for the set of four. ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Are they stock height or lowered? how old? thanx Mack --- Herb Lumpp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I just replaced the Edelbrock small block springs > that were on my Elky with > a set of Global West big block springs. If anyone > is interested I'd like to > get $100 (plus shipping) for the set of four. > > Herb Lumpp > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ > > > > > ___ > Chevelle-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Hi all, I just replaced the Edelbrock small block springs that were on my Elky with a set of Global West big block springs. If anyone is interested I'd like to get $100 (plus shipping) for the set of four. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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I used some Spray Gray on the front coils and Chassis Black on the rear coils in my 69. The coils in my 70 are powder coated Tom
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Title: Message Howdy guys, Was wondering what type of paint to use on coil springs to keep it from cracking or is there something else that is used other than paint to make them look good? Thanks, Ðäññÿ .. Sorry abouot the post without changing the subject and content. got in a hurry..
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Gents, I have seen some variable rate coil springs out there recently but didn't look close. Do they have these variable rate coils springs ( NOT Coil-over shocks) for the front with a big block for street use? Does anyone have them installed? What's the source? I have looked several places and come up emtpy. Steve - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]