RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation
I would recommend the smaller headers for day to day use. You get a broader torque curve that, in most cases, makes the car stronger all around. Bill Vander Werf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Ellis Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Bill, Thanks very much for the help. I've got one more question for you about the 2 vs 1 and 3/4. My engine is a 402 bored to 414ci. The heads are Edelbrock Performer RPM. Comp Cam Xtreme Energy with 552/555 lift and 230/236 duration @ 50. Lobe sep is 110. Domed pistons milled to give 9:7 to 1. Stick shift Muncie, Performer RPM intake with a matching carb. Would you still go 1 and 3/4 or would the 2 produce better results overall? I hate to bug you but, since I have both sets of headers, I'm keen for input on what to do. I've got to make a decision Saturday. The car is nice but I drive it alot. I also take it to the strip monthly and thrash it pretty good. I just don't know which ones will give the best results. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bill Vander Werf Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation You can get the supercomps in from underneath if you remove the oil filter and take the bolt out of the motor mounts. Then you have to lift the motor up several inches with a cherry picker. If you can get hold of the motor low enough you can do it with the hood on. I installed the headers with the motor out but I have had to remove them a time or two. I have the 2 ceramic coated version and by laying a towel on the frame and control arm bolts I have been able to install them more than once without scratching them. As far as your question about header size; I would use the 1 ¾ setup for the street, even with a mild 454. If the car is to live at the drag strip, as mine does, I would, and did use the 2. Again, that depends on your cubic inches. The bigger the motor, the bigger the pipe. Bill Vander Werf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Ellis Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Jeff, Yeah, it's looking that way for me too. BTW, what displacement are you running with those Supercomps? A couple of buddies of mine are telling me that 2 headers are way too big - should be 1 and 3/4. Since I have a set of each, I'm really wondering which one's to go with. Craig -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jeff Wysocki Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Header installation I installed a set of Hooker Header Supercomp headers, and the only way to get them in on the drivers side was to loosen motor mounts and lift the motor up about 2 inches and slide them from the bottom up into the engine compartment. Jeff Wysocki Brownstown Twp., Michigan 1970 Chevelle SS 1968 Chevelle image001.gif
RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation
Well, I took
your advise and put them in today. Quite a chore - had to release the motor
mounts, pick the engine/trans up about two inches to get them in. Between that
and rerouting starter wires, etc., it's all day job.
C
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bill Vander
WerfSent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 8:37 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
I would recommend the smaller headers for
day to day use. You get a broader torque curve that, in most cases, makes the
car stronger all around.
Bill Vander Werf
-Original
Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Craig
EllisSent: Friday, June 13,
2003 12:19 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
Bill,
Thanks
very much for the help. I've got one more question for you about the 2" vs 1
and 3/4. My engine is a 402 bored to 414ci. The heads are Edelbrock Performer
RPM. Comp Cam Xtreme Energy with 552/555 lift and 230/236 duration @ 50. Lobe
sep is 110. Domed pistons milled to give 9:7 to 1. Stick shift Muncie,
Performer RPM intake with a matching carb. Would you still go 1 and 3/4 or
would the 2" produce better results overall?
I hate
to bug you but, since I have both sets of headers, I'm keen for input on what
to do. I've got to make a decision Saturday. The car is nice but I drive it
alot. I also take it to the strip monthly and thrash it pretty good. I just
don't know which ones will give the best results.
Thanks
-Original
Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bill Vander
WerfSent: Thursday, June
12, 2003 7:28 PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
You can get the supercomps
in from underneath if you remove the oil filter and take the bolt out of the
motor mounts. Then you have to lift the motor up several inches with a
cherry picker. If you can get hold of the motor low enough you can do it
with the hood on. I installed the headers with the motor out but I have had
to remove them a time or two. I have the 2 ceramic coated version and by
laying a towel on the frame and control arm bolts I have been able to
install them more than once without scratching them.
As far as your question
about header size; I would use the 1 ¾ setup for the street, even with a
mild 454. If the car is to live at the drag strip, as mine does, I would,
and did use the 2. Again, that depends on your cubic inches. The bigger the
motor, the bigger the pipe.
Bill Vander
Werf
-Original
Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Craig
EllisSent: Thursday, June
12, 2003 7:07 PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
Jeff,
Yeah,
it's looking that way for me too. BTW, what displacement are you running
with those Supercomps? A couple of buddies of mine are telling me that 2"
headers are way too big - should be 1 and 3/4. Since I have a set of each,
I'm really wondering which one's to go with.
Craig
-Original
Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jeff WysockiSent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:16
PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
I installed a set of Hooker Header
Supercomp headers, and the only way to get them in on the drivers side was
to loosen motor mounts and lift the motor up about 2 inches and slide them
from the bottom up into the engine compartment.
Jeff
Wysocki
Brownstown Twp., Michigan
1970 Chevelle
SS
1968
Chevelle
image001.gif
RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation
This was
good stuff. When I was done reading, I went downstairs and installed the smaller
pipes.
C
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Tom
TomlinsonSent: Friday, June 13, 2003 6:35 PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
I'm
no expert on this, but I found the Sanderson Header web site to be
helpful.
See:
http://www.sandersonheaders.com/letsgettech3.htm
Tom
Tomlinson
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Craig
EllisSent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:19 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
Bill,
Thanks
very much for the help. I've got one more question for you about the 2" vs 1
and 3/4. My engine is a 402 bored to 414ci. The heads are Edelbrock
Performer RPM. Comp Cam Xtreme Energy with 552/555 lift and 230/236 duration
@ 50. Lobe sep is 110. Domed pistons milled to give 9:7 to 1. Stick shift
Muncie, Performer RPM intake with a matching carb. Would you still go 1 and
3/4 or would the 2" produce better results overall?
I hate
to bug you but, since I have both sets of headers, I'm keen for input on
what to do. I've got to make a decision Saturday. The car is nice but I
drive it alot. I also take it to the strip monthly and thrash it pretty
good. I just don't know which ones will give the best
results.
Thanks
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bill Vander
WerfSent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:28 PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
You can get the supercomps in from
underneath if you remove the oil filter and take the bolt out of the motor
mounts. Then you have to lift the motor up several inches with a cherry
picker. If you can get hold of the motor low enough you can do it with the
hood on. I installed the headers with the motor out but I have had to
remove them a time or two. I have the 2 ceramic coated version and by
laying a towel on the frame and control arm bolts I have been able to
install them more than once without scratching them.
As far as your question about header
size; I would use the 1 ¾ setup for the street, even with a mild 454. If
the car is to live at the drag strip, as mine does, I would, and did use
the 2. Again, that depends on your cubic inches. The bigger the motor,
the bigger the pipe.
Bill Vander Werf
-Original
Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig
EllisSent: Thursday,
June 12, 2003
7:07
PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
Jeff,
Yeah, it's
looking that way for me too. BTW, what displacement are you running with
those Supercomps? A couple of buddies of mine are telling me that 2"
headers are way too big - should be 1 and 3/4. Since I have a set of each,
I'm really wondering which one's to go with.
Craig
-Original
Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jeff
WysockiSent: Wednesday,
June 11, 2003
5:16
PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
I installed a set of
Hooker Header Supercomp headers, and the only way to get them in on the
drivers side was to loosen motor mounts and lift the motor up about 2
inches and slide them from the bottom up into the engine
compartment.
Jeff Wysocki
Brownstown Twp., Michigan
1970 Chevelle
SS
1968
Chevelle
image001.gif
RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation
I'm no
expert on this, but I found the Sanderson Header web site to be
helpful.
See:
http://www.sandersonheaders.com/letsgettech3.htm
Tom
Tomlinson
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Craig
EllisSent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:19 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
Bill,
Thanks
very much for the help. I've got one more question for you about the 2" vs 1
and 3/4. My engine is a 402 bored to 414ci. The heads are Edelbrock Performer
RPM. Comp Cam Xtreme Energy with 552/555 lift and 230/236 duration @ 50. Lobe
sep is 110. Domed pistons milled to give 9:7 to 1. Stick shift Muncie,
Performer RPM intake with a matching carb. Would you still go 1 and 3/4 or
would the 2" produce better results overall?
I hate to
bug you but, since I have both sets of headers, I'm keen for input on what to
do. I've got to make a decision Saturday. The car is nice but I drive it alot.
I also take it to the strip monthly and thrash it pretty good. I just don't
know which ones will give the best results.
Thanks
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bill Vander
WerfSent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:28 PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
You can get the supercomps in from
underneath if you remove the oil filter and take the bolt out of the motor
mounts. Then you have to lift the motor up several inches with a cherry
picker. If you can get hold of the motor low enough you can do it with the
hood on. I installed the headers with the motor out but I have had to remove
them a time or two. I have the 2 ceramic coated version and by laying a
towel on the frame and control arm bolts I have been able to install them
more than once without scratching them.
As far as your question about header
size; I would use the 1 ¾ setup for the street, even with a mild 454. If
the car is to live at the drag strip, as mine does, I would, and did use the
2. Again, that depends on your cubic inches. The bigger the motor, the
bigger the pipe.
Bill Vander Werf
-Original
Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of
Craig
EllisSent: Thursday,
June 12, 2003
7:07
PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
Jeff,
Yeah,
it's looking that way for me too. BTW, what displacement are you running
with those Supercomps? A couple of buddies of mine are telling me that 2"
headers are way too big - should be 1 and 3/4. Since I have a set of each,
I'm really wondering which one's to go with.
Craig
-Original
Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jeff
WysockiSent: Wednesday,
June 11, 2003
5:16
PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
I installed a set of Hooker Header
Supercomp headers, and the only way to get them in on the drivers side was
to loosen motor mounts and lift the motor up about 2 inches and slide them
from the bottom up into the engine compartment.
Jeff Wysocki
Brownstown Twp., Michigan
1970 Chevelle
SS
1968
Chevelle
image001.gif
Re: [Chevelle-List] Header installation
I also had a problem with headers that were made "special" for my '69 Nova. Guaranteed to fit!! I had to jack the drivers side up and slip them in. And when I lowered the engine back on the mount the guaranteed fit was hitting the power steering. Well I couldn't send them back as I had them Jet Coated. I took a ball peen hammer and using the ball end against the header where it was hitting I smacked it a few times with another hammer to neatly dent it to give me the clearance I needed. It fit good after that and looked like it was made that way. RichACES # 05066 - Original Message - From: James Strunk Jr. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Hey Craig,,,find a friend that works at a service station,,put it up on a rack,,slide it in from below - Original Message - From: Craig Ellis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:22 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Yeah, I got the pass side in no problem. The driver side is proving to be a headache. I'mwondering if it makes sense to remove the steering colume and see if I can feed them in from the top. C -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3CS/SCBSSent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:36 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, I can't be entirely sure about a big block, but on my small block, I have to jack up the car, and lift the motor off the mounts for the drivers side. I lift the car for the proper angle, and lift the motor off the mounts for just enough clearance. It's a pain, but it will fit. As far as the passenger side, nothing is required. The starter can still be attached. Good luck, I guarantee that you will bust a few knuckles getting it in there. Sarge -Original Message-From: Craig Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:48 PMTo: ChevelleSubject: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, since I got so much help on the valve covers, I'll try a harder problem. Does anyone know which parts have to be removed to get a set of Hooker headers onto my big block 70 Chevelle? So far, it looks like the starter and the steering column have to move. I'd HATE to have to remove the heads to get them on. I need help on this one - anybody know how it's done??? Craig E. image001.gif
RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation
Aint it the truth. So far, the pass side went in easily. The drive side is really tough. The BB motor is quite a bit wider than the SBC. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3CS/SCBSSent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:23 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation If you lift the motor and the car, you should be able to work it through from the top, without messing with the steering. At least on my SB. Again, I'm not sure on the BB. It was a pain even with my block! I'm fairly certain there are still a few curse words lingering around in my garage from that install! Sarge -Original Message-From: Craig Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 7:23 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Yeah, I got the pass side in no problem. The driver side is proving to be a headache. I'mwondering if it makes sense to remove the steering colume and see if I can feed them in from the top. C -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3CS/SCBSSent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:36 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, I can't be entirely sure about a big block, but on my small block, I have to jack up the car, and lift the motor off the mounts for the drivers side. I lift the car for the proper angle, and lift the motor off the mounts for just enough clearance. It's a pain, but it will fit. As far as the passenger side, nothing is required. The starter can still be attached. Good luck, I guarantee that you will bust a few knuckles getting it in there. Sarge -Original Message-From: Craig Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:48 PMTo: ChevelleSubject: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, since I got so much help on the valve covers, I'll try a harder problem. Does anyone know which parts have to be removed to get a set of Hooker headers onto my big block 70 Chevelle? So far, it looks like the starter and the steering column have to move. I'd HATE to have to remove the heads to get them on. I need help on this one - anybody know how it's done??? Craig E. image001.gif
RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation
Jeff, Yeah, it's looking that way for me too. BTW, what displacement are you running with those Supercomps? A couple of buddies of mine are telling me that 2" headers are way too big - should be 1 and 3/4. Since I have a set of each, I'm really wondering which one's to go with. Craig -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jeff WysockiSent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:16 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Header installation I installed a set of Hooker Header Supercomp headers, and the only way to get them in on the drivers side was to loosen motor mounts and lift the motor up about 2 inches and slide them from the bottom up into the engine compartment. Jeff Wysocki Brownstown Twp., Michigan 1970 Chevelle SS 1968 Chevelle - Original Message - From: Craig Ellis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:22 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Yeah, I got the pass side in no problem. The driver side is proving to be a headache. I'mwondering if it makes sense to remove the steering colume and see if I can feed them in from the top. C -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3CS/SCBSSent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:36 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, I can't be entirely sure about a big block, but on my small block, I have to jack up the car, and lift the motor off the mounts for the drivers side. I lift the car for the proper angle, and lift the motor off the mounts for just enough clearance. It's a pain, but it will fit. As far as the passenger side, nothing is required. The starter can still be attached. Good luck, I guarantee that you will bust a few knuckles getting it in there. Sarge -Original Message-From: Craig Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:48 PMTo: ChevelleSubject: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, since I got so much help on the valve covers, I'll try a harder problem. Does anyone know which parts have to be removed to get a set of Hooker headers onto my big block 70 Chevelle? So far, it looks like the starter and the steering column have to move. I'd HATE to have to remove the heads to get them on. I need help on this one - anybody know how it's done??? Craig E. image001.gif
RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation
They won't go in from underneath without removing the steering colume, I think. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of James Strunk Jr.Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:26 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Hey Craig,,,find a friend that works at a service station,,put it up on a rack,,slide it in from below - Original Message - From: Craig Ellis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:22 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Yeah, I got the pass side in no problem. The driver side is proving to be a headache. I'mwondering if it makes sense to remove the steering colume and see if I can feed them in from the top. C -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3CS/SCBSSent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:36 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, I can't be entirely sure about a big block, but on my small block, I have to jack up the car, and lift the motor off the mounts for the drivers side. I lift the car for the proper angle, and lift the motor off the mounts for just enough clearance. It's a pain, but it will fit. As far as the passenger side, nothing is required. The starter can still be attached. Good luck, I guarantee that you will bust a few knuckles getting it in there. Sarge -Original Message-From: Craig Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:48 PMTo: ChevelleSubject: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, since I got so much help on the valve covers, I'll try a harder problem. Does anyone know which parts have to be removed to get a set of Hooker headers onto my big block 70 Chevelle? So far, it looks like the starter and the steering column have to move. I'd HATE to have to remove the heads to get them on. I need help on this one - anybody know how it's done??? Craig E. image001.gif
RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation
You can get the supercomps in from underneath if you remove the oil filter and take the bolt out of the motor mounts. Then you have to lift the motor up several inches with a cherry picker. If you can get hold of the motor low enough you can do it with the hood on. I installed the headers with the motor out but I have had to remove them a time or two. I have the 2 ceramic coated version and by laying a towel on the frame and control arm bolts I have been able to install them more than once without scratching them. As far as your question about header size; I would use the 1 ¾ setup for the street, even with a mild 454. If the car is to live at the drag strip, as mine does, I would, and did use the 2. Again, that depends on your cubic inches. The bigger the motor, the bigger the pipe. Bill Vander Werf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Ellis Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Jeff, Yeah, it's looking that way for me too. BTW, what displacement are you running with those Supercomps? A couple of buddies of mine are telling me that 2 headers are way too big - should be 1 and 3/4. Since I have a set of each, I'm really wondering which one's to go with. Craig -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jeff Wysocki Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Header installation I installed a set of Hooker Header Supercomp headers, and the only way to get them in on the drivers side was to loosen motor mounts and lift the motor up about 2 inches and slide them from the bottom up into the engine compartment. Jeff Wysocki Brownstown Twp., Michigan 1970 Chevelle SS 1968 Chevelle image001.gif
Re: [Chevelle-List] Header installation
It's the original 402 punched out,
with all mild upgrades, I had a cheap pair of headers and wanted the
"SuperComps" Ceramic coated, and I swear it sounds better!! Hehehehe!! Probably
my justification for spending the money
Jeff Wysocki
Brownstown Twp.,
Michigan
1970 Chevelle SS
1968 Chevelle
- Original Message -
From:
Craig Ellis
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:07
PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
Jeff,
Yeah, it's
looking that way for me too. BTW, what displacement are you running with those
Supercomps? A couple of buddies of mine are telling me that 2" headers are way
too big - should be 1 and 3/4. Since I have a set of each, I'm really
wondering which one's to go with.
Craig
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jeff
WysockiSent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:16 PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
I installed a set of Hooker
Header Supercomp headers, and the only way to get them in on the drivers
side was to loosen motor mounts and lift the motor up about 2 inches and
slide them from the bottom up into the engine compartment.
Jeff Wysocki
Brownstown Twp., Michigan
1970 Chevelle SS
1968 Chevelle
- Original Message -
From:
Craig Ellis
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:22
PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header
installation
Yeah,
I got the pass side in no problem. The driver side is proving to be a
headache. I'mwondering if it makes sense to remove the steering
colume and see if I can feed them in from the top.
C
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Fruhauf
Kerry A SSgt 3CS/SCBSSent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:36
AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE:
[Chevelle-List] Header installation
Well, I can't be entirely sure
about a big block, but on my small block, I have to jack up the car, and
lift the motor off the mounts for the drivers side. I lift the car
for the proper angle, and lift the motor off the mounts for just enough
clearance. It's a pain, but it will fit. As far as the
passenger side, nothing is required. The starter can still be
attached. Good luck, I guarantee that you will bust a few knuckles
getting it in there.
Sarge
-Original
Message-From:
Craig Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:48
PMTo:
ChevelleSubject:
[Chevelle-List] Header installation
Well, since I got so much
help on the valve covers, I'll try a harder problem. Does anyone know
which parts have to be removed to get a set of Hooker headers onto my
big block 70 Chevelle? So far, it looks like the starter and the
steering column have to move. I'd HATE to have to remove the heads to
get them on.
I need help on this one -
anybody know how it's done???
Craig
E.
attachment: image001.gif
Re: [Chevelle-List] Header installation
Go with the larger ones, you'll be glad you did. I'm running 3" on a 66 SS with a 396 bored .30 and love them. If you had a SB then the smaller ones would fit the combo better.
RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation
Bill,
Thanks very
much for the help. I've got one more question for you about the 2" vs 1 and 3/4.
My engine is a 402 bored to 414ci. The heads are Edelbrock Performer RPM. Comp
Cam Xtreme Energy with 552/555 lift and 230/236 duration @ 50. Lobe sep is 110.
Domed pistons milled to give 9:7 to 1. Stick shift Muncie, Performer RPM intake
with a matching carb. Would you still go 1 and 3/4 or would the 2" produce
better results overall?
I hate to
bug you but, since I have both sets of headers, I'm keen for input on what to
do. I've got to make a decision Saturday. The car is nice but I drive it alot. I
also take it to the strip monthly and thrash it pretty good. I just don't know
which ones will give the best results.
Thanks
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You can get the supercomps in from
underneath if you remove the oil filter and take the bolt out of the motor
mounts. Then you have to lift the motor up several inches with a cherry
picker. If you can get hold of the motor low enough you can do it with the
hood on. I installed the headers with the motor out but I have had to remove
them a time or two. I have the 2 ceramic coated version and by laying a towel
on the frame and control arm bolts I have been able to install them more than
once without scratching them.
As far as your question about header
size; I would use the 1 ¾ setup for the street, even with a mild 454. If the
car is to live at the drag strip, as mine does, I would, and did use the 2.
Again, that depends on your cubic inches. The bigger the motor, the bigger the
pipe.
Bill Vander Werf
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Jeff,
Yeah,
it's looking that way for me too. BTW, what displacement are you running with
those Supercomps? A couple of buddies of mine are telling me that 2" headers
are way too big - should be 1 and 3/4. Since I have a set of each, I'm really
wondering which one's to go with.
Craig
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I installed a set of Hooker Header
Supercomp headers, and the only way to get them in on the drivers side was
to loosen motor mounts and lift the motor up about 2 inches and slide them
from the bottom up into the engine compartment.
Jeff Wysocki
Brownstown Twp., Michigan
1970 Chevelle
SS
1968
Chevelle
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If you lift the motor and the car, you should be able to work it through from the top, without messing with the steering. At least on my SB. Again, I'm not sure on the BB. It was a pain even with my block! I'm fairly certain there are still a few curse words lingering around in my garage from that install! Sarge -Original Message- From: Craig Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 7:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Yeah, I got the pass side in no problem. The driver side is proving to be a headache. I'mwondering if it makes sense to remove the steering colume and see if I can feed them in from the top. C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3CS/SCBS Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, I can't be entirely sure about a big block, but on my small block, I have to jack up the car, and lift the motor off the mounts for the drivers side. I lift the car for the proper angle, and lift the motor off the mounts for just enough clearance. It's a pain, but it will fit. As far as the passenger side, nothing is required. The starter can still be attached. Good luck, I guarantee that you will bust a few knuckles getting it in there. Sarge -Original Message- From: Craig Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:48 PM To: Chevelle Subject: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, since I got so much help on the valve covers, I'll try a harder problem. Does anyone know which parts have to be removed to get a set of Hooker headers onto my big block 70 Chevelle? So far, it looks like the starter and the steering column have to move. I'd HATE to have to remove the heads to get them on. I need help on this one - anybody know how it's done??? Craig E. attachment: image001.gif
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I installed a set of Hooker Header Supercomp headers, and the only way to get them in on the drivers side was to loosen motor mounts and lift the motor up about 2 inches and slide them from the bottom up into the engine compartment. Jeff Wysocki Brownstown Twp., Michigan 1970 Chevelle SS 1968 Chevelle - Original Message - From: Craig Ellis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:22 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Yeah, I got the pass side in no problem. The driver side is proving to be a headache. I'mwondering if it makes sense to remove the steering colume and see if I can feed them in from the top. C -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3CS/SCBSSent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:36 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, I can't be entirely sure about a big block, but on my small block, I have to jack up the car, and lift the motor off the mounts for the drivers side. I lift the car for the proper angle, and lift the motor off the mounts for just enough clearance. It's a pain, but it will fit. As far as the passenger side, nothing is required. The starter can still be attached. Good luck, I guarantee that you will bust a few knuckles getting it in there. Sarge -Original Message-From: Craig Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:48 PMTo: ChevelleSubject: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, since I got so much help on the valve covers, I'll try a harder problem. Does anyone know which parts have to be removed to get a set of Hooker headers onto my big block 70 Chevelle? So far, it looks like the starter and the steering column have to move. I'd HATE to have to remove the heads to get them on. I need help on this one - anybody know how it's done??? Craig E. attachment: image001.gif
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Hey Craig,,,find a friend that works at a service station,,put it up on a rack,,slide it in from below - Original Message - From: Craig Ellis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:22 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Yeah, I got the pass side in no problem. The driver side is proving to be a headache. I'mwondering if it makes sense to remove the steering colume and see if I can feed them in from the top. C -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3CS/SCBSSent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:36 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, I can't be entirely sure about a big block, but on my small block, I have to jack up the car, and lift the motor off the mounts for the drivers side. I lift the car for the proper angle, and lift the motor off the mounts for just enough clearance. It's a pain, but it will fit. As far as the passenger side, nothing is required. The starter can still be attached. Good luck, I guarantee that you will bust a few knuckles getting it in there. Sarge -Original Message-From: Craig Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:48 PMTo: ChevelleSubject: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, since I got so much help on the valve covers, I'll try a harder problem. Does anyone know which parts have to be removed to get a set of Hooker headers onto my big block 70 Chevelle? So far, it looks like the starter and the steering column have to move. I'd HATE to have to remove the heads to get them on. I need help on this one - anybody know how it's done??? Craig E. image001.gif
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Well, I can't be entirely sure about a big block, but on my small block, I have to jack up the car, and lift the motor off the mounts for the drivers side. I lift the car for the proper angle, and lift the motor off the mounts for just enough clearance. It's a pain, but it will fit. As far as the passenger side, nothing is required. The starter can still be attached. Good luck, I guarantee that you will bust a few knuckles getting it in there. Sarge -Original Message- From: Craig Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:48 PM To: Chevelle Subject: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, since I got so much help on the valve covers, I'll try a harder problem. Does anyone know which parts have to be removed to get a set of Hooker headers onto my big block 70 Chevelle? So far, it looks like the starter and the steering column have to move. I'd HATE to have to remove the heads to get them on. I need help on this one - anybody know how it's done??? Craig E. attachment: image001.gif
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Yeah, I got the pass side in no problem. The driver side is proving to be a headache. I'mwondering if it makes sense to remove the steering colume and see if I can feed them in from the top. C -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3CS/SCBSSent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:36 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, I can't be entirely sure about a big block, but on my small block, I have to jack up the car, and lift the motor off the mounts for the drivers side. I lift the car for the proper angle, and lift the motor off the mounts for just enough clearance. It's a pain, but it will fit. As far as the passenger side, nothing is required. The starter can still be attached. Good luck, I guarantee that you will bust a few knuckles getting it in there. Sarge -Original Message-From: Craig Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:48 PMTo: ChevelleSubject: [Chevelle-List] Header installation Well, since I got so much help on the valve covers, I'll try a harder problem. Does anyone know which parts have to be removed to get a set of Hooker headers onto my big block 70 Chevelle? So far, it looks like the starter and the steering column have to move. I'd HATE to have to remove the heads to get them on. I need help on this one - anybody know how it's done??? Craig E. image001.gif
[Chevelle-List] Header installation
Well, since I got so much help on the valve covers, I'll try a harder problem. Does anyone know which parts have to be removed to get a set of Hooker headers onto my big block 70 Chevelle? So far, it looks like the starter and the steering column have to move. I'd HATE to have to remove the heads to get them on. I need help on this one - anybody know how it's done??? Craig E. tech.gif
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I am not sure but I think that if you unbolt your motor mounts you should be able to lift the motor high enough and slip the headers down in there. Jason Boivin http://home.wizard.org/twchevelle/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] header installation update
Just thought I'd let everyone know thatI returned the full-length hedman headers (piece o' crap) for some flowtech ceramic coated ones (#31100). And the flowtech installed really nicely and fit great. So stay away from full-length hedman headers for 72 chevelles. BTW, I startedthe engine with just the headers installedvery nice sound =) Daniel72 Malibu 350/35053 GMC97 Intrepid
