Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question

2002-11-26 Thread Misterbowtie66
In a message dated 11/26/02 9:06:45 AM Atlantic Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

John, first be sure you have a good connection at the junction block. The wire you are asking about, if it is red it goes to the alternator.(BAT.) If it's black it's a ground. There seems to be some controversy as to the rag joint. We had this before. Some seem to think that a wire has to connect the 2 sides of the rag joint for the horn to work. I have never been able to prove this. Looking at the schematic the horn is grounded inside the car through the body.
 Some have said that tying the rag joint with a wire was the only way to get their horn to work. I think it was because they didn't have the proper ground in side the car. The spring holds the steering wheel off the canceling cam on the '66 and is part of the horn ground from the steering wheel to the mast. It's called a horn relay but if it was bad a whole lot of other things wouldn't work. Look at your schematic and you'll see all the other areas it supplies power to. 
 Rich
"66 Malibu
ACES # 5066


Rich

Let me explain this again a little differently and you should know what Iam saying here. The horn relay is mounted to radiator wall , on the relay there are 2 terminal connections the one on the left is a red wire that comes out of the harness, on the under portion of the relay are 2 wires with trminal clips. One side is green wires that run from relay to horns , the other is black that is part of the harness. On the relay itself like I said There is a red wire to the left connection and on the other side I have no wire there, although the schematic shows a wire coming off. My question is if the schematic shows the wire where does it go to ??? As for the sterring wheel I have no spring on the button, they had used some aftermarket go kart wheel so I assume they tossed the spring or lost it. And your telling me that the spring is part of the horn ground, is it possible thats my problem this spring not being there ?? 

Thanks...John


Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question

2002-11-26 Thread Keith Cooper



I have never heard of a rag joint coupler, would you 
explain??
Thanks
Keith Cooper
Happy Thanksgiving! Everyone PLEASE be careful out 
there.

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  From: 
  Richard 
  Milkiewicz 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:57 
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  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay 
  Question
  
  John, first be sure you have a good connection at 
  the junction block. The wire you are asking about, if it is red it goes to the 
  alternator.(BAT.) If it's black it's a ground. There seems to be some 
  controversy as to the rag joint. We had this before. Some seem to think that a 
  wire has to connect the 2 sides of the rag joint for the horn to work. I have 
  never been able to prove this. Looking at the schematic the horn is grounded 
  inside the car through the body.
  Some have said that tying the rag joint with a 
  wire was the only way to get their horn to work. I think it was because they 
  didn't have the proper ground in side the car. The spring holds the steering 
  wheel off the canceling cam on the '66 and is part of the horn ground from the 
  steering wheel to the mast. It's called a horn relay but if it was bad a whole 
  lot of other things wouldn't work. Look at your schematic and you'll see all 
  the other areas it supplies power to. 
  Rich"66 MalibuACES # 5066
  
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Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:10 
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Subject: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay 
Question
HelloI finished putting my steering column back 
together and put on the steering wheel. When I went to try the horn nothing 
happened. I tested the power coming into relay seemed ok. Then ran wire from 
horn to batttery plus side and they blew ok. Is it possible that relay maybe 
bad ? I looked in the wiring schematics for a 66 Chevelle and it shows the 
relay and the connection for the wire on the left but on the right it shows 
a wire coming off the right but its not showing as going to ground just 
shows it going nowhere with a connector on the end. Can you tell me what 
that is ?? Also does the spring in the horn button play a part in getting 
the horn to blow ??? Thanks in advance for any helpJohn..66 
ChevellePhilly, Pa 


Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question

2002-11-26 Thread Richard Milkiewicz



John, first be sure you have a good connection at 
the junction block. The wire you are asking about, if it is red it goes to the 
alternator.(BAT.) If it's black it's a ground. There seems to be some 
controversy as to the rag joint. We had this before. Some seem to think that a 
wire has to connect the 2 sides of the rag joint for the horn to work. I have 
never been able to prove this. Looking at the schematic the horn is grounded 
inside the car through the body.
Some have said that tying the rag joint with a wire 
was the only way to get their horn to work. I think it was because they didn't 
have the proper ground in side the car. The spring holds the steering wheel off 
the canceling cam on the '66 and is part of the horn ground from the steering 
wheel to the mast. It's called a horn relay but if it was bad a whole lot of 
other things wouldn't work. Look at your schematic and you'll see all the other 
areas it supplies power to. 
Rich"66 MalibuACES # 5066

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  Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:10 
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  Subject: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay 
  Question
  HelloI finished putting my steering column back 
  together and put on the steering wheel. When I went to try the horn nothing 
  happened. I tested the power coming into relay seemed ok. Then ran wire from 
  horn to batttery plus side and they blew ok. Is it possible that relay maybe 
  bad ? I looked in the wiring schematics for a 66 Chevelle and it shows the 
  relay and the connection for the wire on the left but on the right it shows a 
  wire coming off the right but its not showing as going to ground just shows it 
  going nowhere with a connector on the end. Can you tell me what that is ?? 
  Also does the spring in the horn button play a part in getting the horn to 
  blow ??? Thanks in advance for any helpJohn..66 
  ChevellePhilly, Pa 


Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question

2002-11-25 Thread Tom Blawkamp



On The steering shaft near the gearbox.   Tom 
B.

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  In a message dated 11/25/02 6:42:41 PM Atlantic Standard 
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  There needs to be a ground connection thru the rag joint 
coupler.    Tom B.Rag joint 
  coupler.. 


Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question

2002-11-25 Thread Misterbowtie66
In a message dated 11/25/02 6:42:41 PM Atlantic Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

There needs to be a ground connection thru the rag joint coupler.    Tom B.

Rag joint coupler..


Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question

2002-11-25 Thread Tom Blawkamp



There needs to be a ground connection thru the rag joint 
coupler.    Tom B.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:10 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay 
  Question
  HelloI finished putting my steering column back 
  together and put on the steering wheel. When I went to try the horn nothing 
  happened. I tested the power coming into relay seemed ok. Then ran wire from 
  horn to batttery plus side and they blew ok. Is it possible that relay maybe 
  bad ? I looked in the wiring schematics for a 66 Chevelle and it shows the 
  relay and the connection for the wire on the left but on the right it shows a 
  wire coming off the right but its not showing as going to ground just shows it 
  going nowhere with a connector on the end. Can you tell me what that is ?? 
  Also does the spring in the horn button play a part in getting the horn to 
  blow ??? Thanks in advance for any helpJohn..66 
  ChevellePhilly, Pa 


[Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question

2002-11-25 Thread Misterbowtie66
Hello

I finished putting my steering column back together and put on the steering wheel. When I went to try the horn nothing happened. I tested the power coming into relay seemed ok. Then ran wire from horn to batttery plus side and they blew ok. Is it possible that relay maybe bad ? I looked in the wiring schematics for a 66 Chevelle and it shows the relay and the connection for the wire on the left but on the right it shows a wire coming off the right but its not showing as going to ground just shows it going nowhere with a connector on the end. Can you tell me what that is ?? Also does the spring in the horn button play a part in getting the horn to blow ??? Thanks in advance for any help

John..66 Chevelle
Philly, Pa