Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question
In a message dated 11/26/02 9:06:45 AM Atlantic Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, first be sure you have a good connection at the junction block. The wire you are asking about, if it is red it goes to the alternator.(BAT.) If it's black it's a ground. There seems to be some controversy as to the rag joint. We had this before. Some seem to think that a wire has to connect the 2 sides of the rag joint for the horn to work. I have never been able to prove this. Looking at the schematic the horn is grounded inside the car through the body. Some have said that tying the rag joint with a wire was the only way to get their horn to work. I think it was because they didn't have the proper ground in side the car. The spring holds the steering wheel off the canceling cam on the '66 and is part of the horn ground from the steering wheel to the mast. It's called a horn relay but if it was bad a whole lot of other things wouldn't work. Look at your schematic and you'll see all the other areas it supplies power to. Rich "66 Malibu ACES # 5066 Rich Let me explain this again a little differently and you should know what Iam saying here. The horn relay is mounted to radiator wall , on the relay there are 2 terminal connections the one on the left is a red wire that comes out of the harness, on the under portion of the relay are 2 wires with trminal clips. One side is green wires that run from relay to horns , the other is black that is part of the harness. On the relay itself like I said There is a red wire to the left connection and on the other side I have no wire there, although the schematic shows a wire coming off. My question is if the schematic shows the wire where does it go to ??? As for the sterring wheel I have no spring on the button, they had used some aftermarket go kart wheel so I assume they tossed the spring or lost it. And your telling me that the spring is part of the horn ground, is it possible thats my problem this spring not being there ?? Thanks...John
Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question
I have never heard of a rag joint coupler, would you explain?? Thanks Keith Cooper Happy Thanksgiving! Everyone PLEASE be careful out there. - Original Message - From: Richard Milkiewicz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question John, first be sure you have a good connection at the junction block. The wire you are asking about, if it is red it goes to the alternator.(BAT.) If it's black it's a ground. There seems to be some controversy as to the rag joint. We had this before. Some seem to think that a wire has to connect the 2 sides of the rag joint for the horn to work. I have never been able to prove this. Looking at the schematic the horn is grounded inside the car through the body. Some have said that tying the rag joint with a wire was the only way to get their horn to work. I think it was because they didn't have the proper ground in side the car. The spring holds the steering wheel off the canceling cam on the '66 and is part of the horn ground from the steering wheel to the mast. It's called a horn relay but if it was bad a whole lot of other things wouldn't work. Look at your schematic and you'll see all the other areas it supplies power to. Rich"66 MalibuACES # 5066 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:10 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question HelloI finished putting my steering column back together and put on the steering wheel. When I went to try the horn nothing happened. I tested the power coming into relay seemed ok. Then ran wire from horn to batttery plus side and they blew ok. Is it possible that relay maybe bad ? I looked in the wiring schematics for a 66 Chevelle and it shows the relay and the connection for the wire on the left but on the right it shows a wire coming off the right but its not showing as going to ground just shows it going nowhere with a connector on the end. Can you tell me what that is ?? Also does the spring in the horn button play a part in getting the horn to blow ??? Thanks in advance for any helpJohn..66 ChevellePhilly, Pa
Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question
John, first be sure you have a good connection at the junction block. The wire you are asking about, if it is red it goes to the alternator.(BAT.) If it's black it's a ground. There seems to be some controversy as to the rag joint. We had this before. Some seem to think that a wire has to connect the 2 sides of the rag joint for the horn to work. I have never been able to prove this. Looking at the schematic the horn is grounded inside the car through the body. Some have said that tying the rag joint with a wire was the only way to get their horn to work. I think it was because they didn't have the proper ground in side the car. The spring holds the steering wheel off the canceling cam on the '66 and is part of the horn ground from the steering wheel to the mast. It's called a horn relay but if it was bad a whole lot of other things wouldn't work. Look at your schematic and you'll see all the other areas it supplies power to. Rich"66 MalibuACES # 5066 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:10 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question HelloI finished putting my steering column back together and put on the steering wheel. When I went to try the horn nothing happened. I tested the power coming into relay seemed ok. Then ran wire from horn to batttery plus side and they blew ok. Is it possible that relay maybe bad ? I looked in the wiring schematics for a 66 Chevelle and it shows the relay and the connection for the wire on the left but on the right it shows a wire coming off the right but its not showing as going to ground just shows it going nowhere with a connector on the end. Can you tell me what that is ?? Also does the spring in the horn button play a part in getting the horn to blow ??? Thanks in advance for any helpJohn..66 ChevellePhilly, Pa
Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question
On The steering shaft near the gearbox. Tom B. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question In a message dated 11/25/02 6:42:41 PM Atlantic Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There needs to be a ground connection thru the rag joint coupler. Tom B.Rag joint coupler..
Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question
In a message dated 11/25/02 6:42:41 PM Atlantic Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There needs to be a ground connection thru the rag joint coupler. Tom B. Rag joint coupler..
Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question
There needs to be a ground connection thru the rag joint coupler. Tom B. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:10 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question HelloI finished putting my steering column back together and put on the steering wheel. When I went to try the horn nothing happened. I tested the power coming into relay seemed ok. Then ran wire from horn to batttery plus side and they blew ok. Is it possible that relay maybe bad ? I looked in the wiring schematics for a 66 Chevelle and it shows the relay and the connection for the wire on the left but on the right it shows a wire coming off the right but its not showing as going to ground just shows it going nowhere with a connector on the end. Can you tell me what that is ?? Also does the spring in the horn button play a part in getting the horn to blow ??? Thanks in advance for any helpJohn..66 ChevellePhilly, Pa
[Chevelle-List] Horn Relay Question
Hello I finished putting my steering column back together and put on the steering wheel. When I went to try the horn nothing happened. I tested the power coming into relay seemed ok. Then ran wire from horn to batttery plus side and they blew ok. Is it possible that relay maybe bad ? I looked in the wiring schematics for a 66 Chevelle and it shows the relay and the connection for the wire on the left but on the right it shows a wire coming off the right but its not showing as going to ground just shows it going nowhere with a connector on the end. Can you tell me what that is ?? Also does the spring in the horn button play a part in getting the horn to blow ??? Thanks in advance for any help John..66 Chevelle Philly, Pa