Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question

2008-05-19 Thread Ron Griffith
I noticed that Amazon had the Audivox CSS-100 cruise on sale for $69.95 with 
free shipping (not on sale now $87.95 +$10.00 shipping).  A local mechanic 
said he had installed several with no problem. I ordered and installed it. 
It works great. I traveled about 500 miles to shows last weekend and it did 
fine.  It has a sensor and magnet setup for those with standard speedo and 
dash, along with a variable speed sensor lead for electronic speedos and 
dashes.  The VSS hookup is programmable to the pulse per mile that your VSS 
sends.  It also has three settings for horsepower output.  I assume this is 
to make acceleration smooth.  The switch that comes with it is a nice 
looking flush mount switch, but you can order an original type turn signal 
switch if you'd like.  The unit can be set up to work with anyone's switch. 
It is not fully electronic and must be hooked to a vacuum source to work. 
It requires 8 inches of vacuum at speed.The instructions aren't great, but 
their tech assistance is pretty good.


Ron Griffith
Texarkana, TX  75501

http://elcaminocentral.com/gallery-album_rgriffs-71-SS-Clone.html

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Haggard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


I have Dakota Digital Dashs in my 63 and 70 Nova's and love them.  Sorry to 
hear you had trouble since I recommend them to everyone.  Their cruise 
control works great too if you use the control unit to send the pulses to 
it.

Bob Haggard


From: "Ron Griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2008/05/14 Wed PM 12:19:08 EDT
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question

I purchased a restored dash on eBay and then installed a Dakota Digital 
VF3 Dash in my '71 Elky.  I cannot personally recommend the DD dash as 
mine has been a lot of trouble.  I have replaced the control box three 
times and am currently waiting on a replacement display unit.  They are 
great at honoring their lifetime warranty, but pulling the dash to 
replace parts can get old very quickly.  I believe Covan makes a gauge 
carrier that allows you to install pretty much any aftermarket gauges. 
Of course the reproduction gauges are available as well.


The restored dash was from a Monte Carlo and the holes had been filled 
with epoxy.  Grain was duplicated and it looks great.  I have since 
experimented with replicating the grain and it's pretty easy to do with a 
toothpick or an awl while the epoxy is still soft.  I bought another MC 
dash that had not been restored a couple of years ago.  It's in my 
warehouse and I don't really recall the condition.  I will take a look at 
it and try to price it fairly if you think you might be interested.  If I 
remember correctly, all of the bracing is there.


As far as the swap, it's not very difficult.  You do have to be careful 
to support the dash while installing it, as it is kind of flimsy until 
properly braced.


Ron Griffith
Texarkana, TX  75501


http://elcaminocentral.com/gallery-album_rgriffs-71-SS-Clone.html
  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Solomon

  To: The Chevelle Mailing List
  Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


  John,

  It is something I have wanted to do as well but it is a pricey 
conversion and that has held me back. You will need the dash carrier, 
gauge cluster, under dash wiring harness and vent balls. Also think there 
are one or two small steel brackets that are unique to the SS dash but 
not sure. Its my understanding that the aftermarket carrier has a fit 
issue at the glove box.


  Stay away from Monte Carlo dashes as they have holes drilled through 
the face that are used to attach the wood grain.
  70 gauge clusters are one year only if you want the correct green 
backlight. If it doesn't matter, 71's and 72's will also work.
  70 and 71 carriers are the same. In 72 they added a seat belt light 
next to the cigarette lighter.


  I will send you some jpg's off list of an article that explains the 
teardown and reinstall.


  Godspeed, Dan Solomon
  "It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
hurry."

  http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/







----
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:27:42 -0400
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


Folks,

How difficult would it be adapting an SS dash to a plain old 70 
Malibu. I have a line on a beautiful 'grandma' Malibu that looks like it 
is going to be the baseline for the 70 Clone that I have been dreaming of 
building. The interior is an almost perfect white with a bench. The only 
thing that I would like todo to the interior is to adapt a

Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question

2008-05-18 Thread Bob Haggard
I have Dakota Digital Dashs in my 63 and 70 Nova's and love them.  Sorry to 
hear you had trouble since I recommend them to everyone.  Their cruise control 
works great too if you use the control unit to send the pulses to it. 
Bob Haggard
> 
> From: "Ron Griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/05/14 Wed PM 12:19:08 EDT
> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question
> 
> I purchased a restored dash on eBay and then installed a Dakota Digital VF3 
> Dash in my '71 Elky.  I cannot personally recommend the DD dash as mine has 
> been a lot of trouble.  I have replaced the control box three times and am 
> currently waiting on a replacement display unit.  They are great at honoring 
> their lifetime warranty, but pulling the dash to replace parts can get old 
> very quickly.  I believe Covan makes a gauge carrier that allows you to 
> install pretty much any aftermarket gauges.  Of course the reproduction 
> gauges are available as well. 
> 
> The restored dash was from a Monte Carlo and the holes had been filled with 
> epoxy.  Grain was duplicated and it looks great.  I have since experimented 
> with replicating the grain and it's pretty easy to do with a toothpick or an 
> awl while the epoxy is still soft.  I bought another MC dash that had not 
> been restored a couple of years ago.  It's in my warehouse and I don't really 
> recall the condition.  I will take a look at it and try to price it fairly if 
> you think you might be interested.  If I remember correctly, all of the 
> bracing is there.
> 
> As far as the swap, it's not very difficult.  You do have to be careful to 
> support the dash while installing it, as it is kind of flimsy until properly 
> braced.
> 
> Ron Griffith
> Texarkana, TX  75501
> 
> 
> http://elcaminocentral.com/gallery-album_rgriffs-71-SS-Clone.html
>   ----- Original Message - 
>   From: Daniel Solomon 
>   To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
>   Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:02 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question
> 
> 
>   John,
>
>   It is something I have wanted to do as well but it is a pricey conversion 
> and that has held me back. You will need the dash carrier, gauge cluster, 
> under dash wiring harness and vent balls. Also think there are one or two 
> small steel brackets that are unique to the SS dash but not sure. Its my 
> understanding that the aftermarket carrier has a fit issue at the glove box.
>
>   Stay away from Monte Carlo dashes as they have holes drilled through the 
> face that are used to attach the wood grain.
>   70 gauge clusters are one year only if you want the correct green 
> backlight. If it doesn't matter, 71's and 72's will also work.
>   70 and 71 carriers are the same. In 72 they added a seat belt light next to 
> the cigarette lighter.
>
>   I will send you some jpg's off list of an article that explains the 
> teardown and reinstall.
> 
>   Godspeed, Dan Solomon
>   "It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
> hurry."
>   http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:27:42 -0400
> Subject: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question
> 
> 
> Folks, 
> 
> How difficult would it be adapting an SS dash to a plain old 70 Malibu. I 
> have a line on a beautiful 'grandma' Malibu that looks like it is going to be 
> the baseline for the 70 Clone that I have been dreaming of building. The 
> interior is an almost perfect white with a bench. The only thing that I would 
> like todo to the interior is to adapt an M21 for the power glide and to 
> replace the dash with an SS dash. Is the dash just a plain drop in dash that 
> will connect to the stock wiring except for maybe the tach? Or will I need a 
> whole new wiring harness. The motor would either be a 'turn key' ZZ4, or a 
> crate 502. BUt I am leaning towards the ZZ4 as I can still get the AC to work 
> with the pump on the ZZ4. 
> 
> Thanks in advanced for any advice, 
> John from CT.
> 




Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question

2008-05-14 Thread Ron Griffith
That was already done on the restored dash I bought.  I haven't tried it on the 
unrestored one.  I probably would have to call on a talented friend for that 
chore.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Solomon 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


  Ron,
   
  How did you fix the hole that passes through the center of the words 
"wiper-washer"?

  Godspeed, Dan Solomon
  "It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
hurry."
  http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/








From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:19:08 -0500
    Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


I purchased a restored dash on eBay and then installed a Dakota Digital VF3 
Dash in my '71 Elky.  I cannot personally recommend the DD dash as mine has 
been a lot of trouble.  I have replaced the control box three times and am 
currently waiting on a replacement display unit.  They are great at honoring 
their lifetime warranty, but pulling the dash to replace parts can get old very 
quickly.  I believe Covan makes a gauge carrier that allows you to install 
pretty much any aftermarket gauges.  Of course the reproduction gauges are 
available as well. 

The restored dash was from a Monte Carlo and the holes had been filled with 
epoxy.  Grain was duplicated and it looks great.  I have since experimented 
with replicating the grain and it's pretty easy to do with a toothpick or an 
awl while the epoxy is still soft.  I bought another MC dash that had not been 
restored a couple of years ago.  It's in my warehouse and I don't really recall 
the condition.  I will take a look at it and try to price it fairly if you 
think you might be interested.  If I remember correctly, all of the bracing is 
there.

As far as the swap, it's not very difficult.  You do have to be careful to 
support the dash while installing it, as it is kind of flimsy until properly 
braced.

Ron Griffith
Texarkana, TX  75501


http://elcaminocentral.com/gallery-album_rgriffs-71-SS-Clone.html
  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Solomon 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


  John,
   
  It is something I have wanted to do as well but it is a pricey conversion 
and that has held me back. You will need the dash carrier, gauge cluster, under 
dash wiring harness and vent balls. Also think there are one or two small steel 
brackets that are unique to the SS dash but not sure. Its my understanding that 
the aftermarket carrier has a fit issue at the glove box.
   
  Stay away from Monte Carlo dashes as they have holes drilled through the 
face that are used to attach the wood grain.
  70 gauge clusters are one year only if you want the correct green 
backlight. If it doesn't matter, 71's and 72's will also work.
  70 and 71 carriers are the same. In 72 they added a seat belt light next 
to the cigarette lighter.
   
  I will send you some jpg's off list of an article that explains the 
teardown and reinstall.

  Godspeed, Dan Solomon
  "It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
hurry."
  http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/








From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
    Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:27:42 -0400
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


Folks, 

How difficult would it be adapting an SS dash to a plain old 70 Malibu. 
I have a line on a beautiful 'grandma' Malibu that looks like it is going to be 
the baseline for the 70 Clone that I have been dreaming of building. The 
interior is an almost perfect white with a bench. The only thing that I would 
like todo to the interior is to adapt an M21 for the power glide and to replace 
the dash with an SS dash. Is the dash just a plain drop in dash that will 
connect to the stock wiring except for maybe the tach? Or will I need a whole 
new wiring harness. The motor would either be a 'turn key' ZZ4, or a crate 502. 
BUt I am leaning towards the ZZ4 as I can still get the AC to work with the 
pump on the ZZ4. 

Thanks in advanced for any advice, 
John from CT. 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question

2008-05-14 Thread Daniel Solomon
Ron,
 
How did you fix the hole that passes through the center of the words 
"wiper-washer"?Godspeed, Dan Solomon"It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
object to realize you are in a hurry."http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:19:08 
-0500Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question



I purchased a restored dash on eBay and then installed a Dakota Digital VF3 
Dash in my '71 Elky.  I cannot personally recommend the DD dash as mine has 
been a lot of trouble.  I have replaced the control box three times and am 
currently waiting on a replacement display unit.  They are great at honoring 
their lifetime warranty, but pulling the dash to replace parts can get old very 
quickly.  I believe Covan makes a gauge carrier that allows you to install 
pretty much any aftermarket gauges.  Of course the reproduction gauges are 
available as well. 
 
The restored dash was from a Monte Carlo and the holes had been filled with 
epoxy.  Grain was duplicated and it looks great.  I have since experimented 
with replicating the grain and it's pretty easy to do with a toothpick or an 
awl while the epoxy is still soft.  I bought another MC dash that had not been 
restored a couple of years ago.  It's in my warehouse and I don't really recall 
the condition.  I will take a look at it and try to price it fairly if you 
think you might be interested.  If I remember correctly, all of the bracing is 
there.
 
As far as the swap, it's not very difficult.  You do have to be careful to 
support the dash while installing it, as it is kind of flimsy until properly 
braced.
 
Ron GriffithTexarkana, TX  75501
 
 
http://elcaminocentral.com/gallery-album_rgriffs-71-SS-Clone.html

- Original Message - 
From: Daniel Solomon 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question
John, It is something I have wanted to do as well but it is a pricey conversion 
and that has held me back. You will need the dash carrier, gauge cluster, under 
dash wiring harness and vent balls. Also think there are one or two small steel 
brackets that are unique to the SS dash but not sure. Its my understanding that 
the aftermarket carrier has a fit issue at the glove box. Stay away from Monte 
Carlo dashes as they have holes drilled through the face that are used to 
attach the wood grain.70 gauge clusters are one year only if you want the 
correct green backlight. If it doesn't matter, 71's and 72's will also work.70 
and 71 carriers are the same. In 72 they added a seat belt light next to the 
cigarette lighter. I will send you some jpg's off list of an article that 
explains the teardown and reinstall.Godspeed, Dan Solomon"It is a mistake to 
allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
hurry."http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:27:42 
-0400Subject: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


Folks, 
 
How difficult would it be adapting an SS dash to a plain old 70 Malibu. I have 
a line on a beautiful 'grandma' Malibu that looks like it is going to be the 
baseline for the 70 Clone that I have been dreaming of building. The interior 
is an almost perfect white with a bench. The only thing that I would like todo 
to the interior is to adapt an M21 for the power glide and to replace the dash 
with an SS dash. Is the dash just a plain drop in dash that will connect to the 
stock wiring except for maybe the tach? Or will I need a whole new wiring 
harness. The motor would either be a 'turn key' ZZ4, or a crate 502. BUt I am 
leaning towards the ZZ4 as I can still get the AC to work with the pump on the 
ZZ4. 
 
Thanks in advanced for any advice, 
John from CT. 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question

2008-05-14 Thread Ron Griffith
I purchased a restored dash on eBay and then installed a Dakota Digital VF3 
Dash in my '71 Elky.  I cannot personally recommend the DD dash as mine has 
been a lot of trouble.  I have replaced the control box three times and am 
currently waiting on a replacement display unit.  They are great at honoring 
their lifetime warranty, but pulling the dash to replace parts can get old very 
quickly.  I believe Covan makes a gauge carrier that allows you to install 
pretty much any aftermarket gauges.  Of course the reproduction gauges are 
available as well. 

The restored dash was from a Monte Carlo and the holes had been filled with 
epoxy.  Grain was duplicated and it looks great.  I have since experimented 
with replicating the grain and it's pretty easy to do with a toothpick or an 
awl while the epoxy is still soft.  I bought another MC dash that had not been 
restored a couple of years ago.  It's in my warehouse and I don't really recall 
the condition.  I will take a look at it and try to price it fairly if you 
think you might be interested.  If I remember correctly, all of the bracing is 
there.

As far as the swap, it's not very difficult.  You do have to be careful to 
support the dash while installing it, as it is kind of flimsy until properly 
braced.

Ron Griffith
Texarkana, TX  75501


http://elcaminocentral.com/gallery-album_rgriffs-71-SS-Clone.html
  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Solomon 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


  John,
   
  It is something I have wanted to do as well but it is a pricey conversion and 
that has held me back. You will need the dash carrier, gauge cluster, under 
dash wiring harness and vent balls. Also think there are one or two small steel 
brackets that are unique to the SS dash but not sure. Its my understanding that 
the aftermarket carrier has a fit issue at the glove box.
   
  Stay away from Monte Carlo dashes as they have holes drilled through the face 
that are used to attach the wood grain.
  70 gauge clusters are one year only if you want the correct green backlight. 
If it doesn't matter, 71's and 72's will also work.
  70 and 71 carriers are the same. In 72 they added a seat belt light next to 
the cigarette lighter.
   
  I will send you some jpg's off list of an article that explains the teardown 
and reinstall.

  Godspeed, Dan Solomon
  "It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
hurry."
  http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/








From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
    Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:27:42 -0400
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question


Folks, 

How difficult would it be adapting an SS dash to a plain old 70 Malibu. I 
have a line on a beautiful 'grandma' Malibu that looks like it is going to be 
the baseline for the 70 Clone that I have been dreaming of building. The 
interior is an almost perfect white with a bench. The only thing that I would 
like todo to the interior is to adapt an M21 for the power glide and to replace 
the dash with an SS dash. Is the dash just a plain drop in dash that will 
connect to the stock wiring except for maybe the tach? Or will I need a whole 
new wiring harness. The motor would either be a 'turn key' ZZ4, or a crate 502. 
BUt I am leaning towards the ZZ4 as I can still get the AC to work with the 
pump on the ZZ4. 

Thanks in advanced for any advice, 
John from CT. 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question

2008-05-14 Thread Daniel Solomon
John,
 
It is something I have wanted to do as well but it is a pricey conversion and 
that has held me back. You will need the dash carrier, gauge cluster, under 
dash wiring harness and vent balls. Also think there are one or two small steel 
brackets that are unique to the SS dash but not sure. Its my understanding that 
the aftermarket carrier has a fit issue at the glove box.
 
Stay away from Monte Carlo dashes as they have holes drilled through the face 
that are used to attach the wood grain.
70 gauge clusters are one year only if you want the correct green backlight. If 
it doesn't matter, 71's and 72's will also work.
70 and 71 carriers are the same. In 72 they added a seat belt light next to the 
cigarette lighter.
 
I will send you some jpg's off list of an article that explains the teardown 
and reinstall.Godspeed, Dan Solomon"It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
object to realize you are in a hurry."http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:27:42 
-0400Subject: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question



Folks, 
 
How difficult would it be adapting an SS dash to a plain old 70 Malibu. I have 
a line on a beautiful 'grandma' Malibu that looks like it is going to be the 
baseline for the 70 Clone that I have been dreaming of building. The interior 
is an almost perfect white with a bench. The only thing that I would like todo 
to the interior is to adapt an M21 for the power glide and to replace the dash 
with an SS dash. Is the dash just a plain drop in dash that will connect to the 
stock wiring except for maybe the tach? Or will I need a whole new wiring 
harness. The motor would either be a 'turn key' ZZ4, or a crate 502. BUt I am 
leaning towards the ZZ4 as I can still get the AC to work with the pump on the 
ZZ4. 
 
Thanks in advanced for any advice, 
John from CT. 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question

2008-05-14 Thread bad66chevelle454

 John,

It's pretty expensive. If I remember right, its roughly $2000. You have to buy 
the SS Dash, the SS gauge cluster, then buy new dash and engine wiring 
harness's. I've never done the conversion my self, so I dont know how difficult 
it isbut doesn't sound that hard, just time consuming. Good luck-

-Tim


 


 

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From: John Ziomek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Wed, 14 May 2008 8:27 am
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Dash Question
















Folks, 


?


How difficult would it be adapting an SS dash to a 
plain old 70 Malibu. I have a line on a beautiful 'grandma' Malibu that looks 
like it is going to be the baseline for the 70 Clone that I have been dreaming 
of building. The interior is an almost perfect white with a bench. The only 
thing?that I would like todo to the interior is to adapt an M21 
for the power glide and to replace the dash with an SS dash. Is the dash just a 
plain drop in dash that will connect to the stock wiring except for maybe the 
tach? Or will I need a whole new wiring harness. The motor would either be a 
'turn key' ZZ4, or a crate 502. BUt I am leaning towards the ZZ4 as I can still 
get the AC to work with the pump on the ZZ4. 


?


Thanks in advanced for any advice, 


John from CT. 

 



[Chevelle-list] Dash Question

2008-05-14 Thread John Ziomek
Folks, 

How difficult would it be adapting an SS dash to a plain old 70 Malibu. I have 
a line on a beautiful 'grandma' Malibu that looks like it is going to be the 
baseline for the 70 Clone that I have been dreaming of building. The interior 
is an almost perfect white with a bench. The only thing that I would like todo 
to the interior is to adapt an M21 for the power glide and to replace the dash 
with an SS dash. Is the dash just a plain drop in dash that will connect to the 
stock wiring except for maybe the tach? Or will I need a whole new wiring 
harness. The motor would either be a 'turn key' ZZ4, or a crate 502. BUt I am 
leaning towards the ZZ4 as I can still get the AC to work with the pump on the 
ZZ4. 

Thanks in advanced for any advice, 
John from CT.