Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
I am buying a 67 Chevelle SS396 and I will need a rear anti-sway bar..I looked up Hotckis and they have a 1 1/8 and 1 1/4 inch bar..Which do you think would work the best on a stock car?...Thanks for yor time. Jerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:20 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information Your Chevelle does have a front sway bar, all Chevelles do as probably most rear wheel cars do - not a suspension guru. Sway bars are designed to reduce body roll when turning. Engine size/horsepower has nothing to do really with it although higher horsepower cars that the mfg. figured would be 'driven' a bit harder than usual include larger front bars plus the additional rear bar. To see good pros and cons, check Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sway_bar and maybe the article at http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question432.htm will help some. If you plan on tossing the car around from side to side in say a slalom course or drive a lot of winding roads where control is the ultimate objective, then by all means a larger front and additional rear bar is a good investment. Dale McIntosh ChevelleCD.com ChevelleStuff.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:chevelle-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 7:42 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie -- Got No Time? Shop Online for Great Gift Ideas! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 _ avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080107-0, 01/07/2008 Tested on: 1/7/2008 8:17:58 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
You need to check the size of your front bar first. Just take an adjustable wrench clamp it to the bar then remove it. Use a ruler to measure the jaw opening of the wrench. When you order the bar give them that information and they will suggest the best bar for you based on your driving plans. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rowan, Jerry Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:31 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information I am buying a 67 Chevelle SS396 and I will need a rear anti-sway bar..I looked up Hotckis and they have a 1 1/8 and 1 1/4 inch bar..Which do you think would work the best on a stock car?...Thanks for yor time. Jerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:20 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information Your Chevelle does have a front sway bar, all Chevelles do as probably most rear wheel cars do - not a suspension guru. Sway bars are designed to reduce body roll when turning. Engine size/horsepower has nothing to do really with it although higher horsepower cars that the mfg. figured would be 'driven' a bit harder than usual include larger front bars plus the additional rear bar. To see good pros and cons, check Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sway_bar and maybe the article at http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question432.htm will help some. If you plan on tossing the car around from side to side in say a slalom course or drive a lot of winding roads where control is the ultimate objective, then by all means a larger front and additional rear bar is a good investment. Dale McIntosh ChevelleCD.com ChevelleStuff.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:chevelle-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 7:42 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie -- Got No Time? Shop Online for Great Gift Ideas! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 _ avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080107-0, 01/07/2008 Tested on: 1/7/2008 8:17:58 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
That's a great ideaThanks I will do that after I buy the carAppreciate itJerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim H. Thompson Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:56 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information You need to check the size of your front bar first. Just take an adjustable wrench clamp it to the bar then remove it. Use a ruler to measure the jaw opening of the wrench. When you order the bar give them that information and they will suggest the best bar for you based on your driving plans. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rowan, Jerry Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:31 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information I am buying a 67 Chevelle SS396 and I will need a rear anti-sway bar..I looked up Hotckis and they have a 1 1/8 and 1 1/4 inch bar..Which do you think would work the best on a stock car?...Thanks for yor time. Jerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:20 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information Your Chevelle does have a front sway bar, all Chevelles do as probably most rear wheel cars do - not a suspension guru. Sway bars are designed to reduce body roll when turning. Engine size/horsepower has nothing to do really with it although higher horsepower cars that the mfg. figured would be 'driven' a bit harder than usual include larger front bars plus the additional rear bar. To see good pros and cons, check Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sway_bar and maybe the article at http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question432.htm will help some. If you plan on tossing the car around from side to side in say a slalom course or drive a lot of winding roads where control is the ultimate objective, then by all means a larger front and additional rear bar is a good investment. Dale McIntosh ChevelleCD.com ChevelleStuff.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:chevelle-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 7:42 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie -- Got No Time? Shop Online for Great Gift Ideas! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 _ avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080107-0, 01/07/2008 Tested on: 1/7/2008 8:17:58 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
I'm sure you have a front bar already. Most Chevelles did not come with a rear bar. Since you already have some Hotchkis parts, you might want to call their tech line and talk through your issues and get advice. There are two philosophies when it comes to sway bars. One camp likes big bars and softer springs. The other likes small (and/or no rear) bar and stiffer springs. Each has it's own plus and minus. Do you want a softer ride, but lots of side to side when you go over driveways and bumps at an angle? Do you want a stiffer ride, but have more of an even feel over bumps and less connection between the left and right suspension? I've simplified it a bit, but you get the idea. Your car is balanced now. You do not want to increase the front bar and leave the rear alone unless you want to risk messing up the handling. You should not have major over or uindersteer as it is now, but if you add a large front bar and leave the rear alone, or add the rear bar and leave the front alone you risk dangerous and unpredictable handling. This is where Hotchkis comes in. They can tell you what you can use and what will work with your exact setup. I'm using Global West gear, so I used them for advice. I have stiffer springs, a slightly larger front bar, and no rear bar. All chosen in consultation with them. BTW, my poly bushings just started to squeak this year - maybe ten years after I installed them. Brad Waller '67 Chevelle '66 Corvette Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino wrote: To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie --
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
Don't be too sure. Some of these cars have gone through a lot of changes in their lifetime. My '69 El Camino does not have a front sway bar. Quoting Brad Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm sure you have a front bar already.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
If you're not running a sway bar at all even the crappy 15/16 bar will be a world of difference on your ride. I tried taking my endlinks off at the strip one time to gain an extra thousandth of a tenth and then I drove home with it unhooked I noticed a big difference in the handling characteristics!! Josh Campbell 66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisseree, 1st car never part with it) 66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the steering wheel) 87 Monte Carlo SS (The modern Chevelle especially when you add the right stuff) 71 Malibu (Something new to blow my money on) - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
Amen to that! I tried the same, and it was terrible. I thought I'd break my windshield from all the body twist! And I didn't gain a thing in the 60' -- I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, Than live my life as if there isn't, And die to find out there is. -Blaise Pascal Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200.00 and a substantial tax cut saves you $30.00? Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377 Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (http://www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6 Josh Campbell wrote: If you're not running a sway bar at all even the crappy 15/16 bar will be a world of difference on your ride. I tried taking my endlinks off at the strip one time to gain an extra thousandth of a tenth and then I drove home with it unhooked I noticed a big difference in the handling characteristics!! /Josh Campbell/ 66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisseree, 1st car never part with it) 66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the steering wheel) 87 Monte Carlo SS (The modern Chevelle especially when you add the right stuff) 71 Malibu (Something new to blow my money on) Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM
[Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie -- Got No Time? Shop Online for Great Gift Ideas! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
I put the big sway bar from a 2nd gen Firebird onto my Chevelle. Bolts right up, and really firms up the front end. It made a noticeable improvement in front end handling. Of course, those swaybars may be a little harder to find in the salvage yards than they were 15 years ago.. take care, Mike -- I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, Than live my life as if there isn't, And die to find out there is. -Blaise Pascal Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200.00 and a substantial tax cut saves you $30.00? Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377 Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (http://www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6 Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino wrote: To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
OPGI gets their sway bars from Aadco and Hellwig, or at least they used to. It's been a long time since I have bought anything from those guys.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
The Hotchkis bar has grease fittings. I have never noticed any squeeking from it. Mike - Original Message - From: Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie -- Got No Time? Shop Online for Great Gift Ideas! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
Your Chevelle does have a front sway bar, all Chevelles do as probably most rear wheel cars do - not a suspension guru. Sway bars are designed to reduce body roll when turning. Engine size/horsepower has nothing to do really with it although higher horsepower cars that the mfg. figured would be 'driven' a bit harder than usual include larger front bars plus the additional rear bar. To see good pros and cons, check Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sway_bar and maybe the article at http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question432.htm will help some. If you plan on tossing the car around from side to side in say a slalom course or drive a lot of winding roads where control is the ultimate objective, then by all means a larger front and additional rear bar is a good investment. Dale McIntosh ChevelleCD.com ChevelleStuff.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:chevelle-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 7:42 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie -- Got No Time? Shop Online for Great Gift Ideas! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 _ avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080107-0, 01/07/2008 Tested on: 1/7/2008 8:17:58 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
Just an FYI, if you apply some of the supplied grease thatcome with the poly bushings, they won't squeak. I've had polyurethane bushings on my 70 for 8 years and they have never squeaked. You can get repro factory sway bars from just about any of the resto parts suppliers. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie -- Got No Time? Shop Online for Great Gift Ideas! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
Eddie- I too have one off of a late 70's Trans Am. I paid $15 for it in a junkyard about 10 years ago. They're likely a little harder to find and more costly now, but far less than an aftermarket bar. Mine measures 1 1/8. I have a stock 7/8 on the rear I added later, don't care for it in corners, but it does help at the strip so I keep it. Devin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 5:42 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie -- Got No Time? Shop Online for Great Gift Ideas! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1212 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 10:55 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1212 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 10:55 PM
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino wrote: To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie One thing I've been warned against is to be careful of not getting carried away with too big of a bar. With too large a diameter I'm told it's possible to lift an wheel in a hard turn. -- Bob Holtzman A man is a man who will fight with a sword, Or tackle Mount Everest in snow; But the bravest of all owns a '34 Ford, Who will try for six thousand in low! Roger Huntington
