Re: [Chevelle-list] Rear Axle Code
Thanks for the information Jim. It is setup for coil springs and measures 54 3/8 between backing plates. It appears straight. No drums or brake parts. Thinking about install disk brakes and not interested in the drums. Leo - Original Message - From: Jim H. Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Rear Axle Code 69 or 70 2:73 open rear. Most likely a series 2 carrier. If the housing is straight, buy it for the housing and axels only. Is it set up for coil or leaf springs? What is the length? Back of drum to back of drum. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Leo John Costigan Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:52 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Rear Axle Code I have come across a 12 bolt rear axle with a code of 'KDC 237 A'. I am having trouble de-coding it. Can anyone help? Thank you, Leo Costigan -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/338 - Release Date: 5/12/2006
Re: [Chevelle-list] Rear Axle Code
69 or 70 2:73 open rear. Most likely a series 2 carrier. If the housing is straight, buy it for the housing and axels only. Is it set up for coil or leaf springs? What is the length? Back of drum to back of drum. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Leo John Costigan Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:52 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Rear Axle Code I have come across a 12 bolt rear axle with a code of 'KDC 237 A'. I am having trouble de-coding it. Can anyone help? Thank you, Leo Costigan
Re: [Chevelle-list] Rear Axle Code
I have come across a 12 bolt rear axle with a code of 'KDC 237 A'. I am having trouble de-coding it. Can anyone help? Thank you, Leo Costigan
[Chevelle-list] Rear Axle
I was just wondering if any of you guys had either painted or powdercoated the rear axle and differential. How did it turn out. I am taking my frame in next week for powdercoat and am thinking of taking the rear end with me. Thanks Ryan
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can any one tell me what good camto buyto use in a 1966 283 engine or do any one have a new one for sale that they did not use thanks
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I powdercoatedthe Fab 9 rear in my 69. Looks great. Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Ryan Langstraat I was just wondering if any of you guys had either painted or powdercoated the rear axle and differential. How did it turn out. I am taking my frame in next week for powdercoat and am thinking of taking the rear end with me. Thanks Ryan
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Title: Message I would powdercoat this time. I painted the last two and theyturned out nice, but powdercoat is NICE. Have Fun! André - Tigergutt -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan LangstraatSent: 19. mars 2005 15:21To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] Rear Axle I was just wondering if any of you guys had either painted or powdercoated the rear axle and differential. How did it turn out. I am taking my frame in next week for powdercoat and am thinking of taking the rear end with me. Thanks Ryan
[Chevelle-list] Rear Axle ID please
I just acquired a 10 bolt posi and wondering if anyone can tell me what it originally was from. Thanks in advance. GDC 340 E 2 is the # stamped on the axle tube. I couldn't find the GDC anywhere. Zieg72 Clear Day Bkgrd.JPG
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Odenton, MarylandClint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are you located,Jason? Clint HooperHH Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: jason mcentee I think i will keep looking for the 12 bolt. The junkyard that has it is a few hundred miles away. i doubt that they would be able to tell me whether or not its an 8.5 or 8.2. Thanks guys.Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are your plans for your 71? If you're running a big block or plan to do any dragracing,I would keep looking for a 12 bolt. Clint HooperHH Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: jason mcentee Hello all, I have been looking for a 12 bolt rear axle assembly for my 71' project. I found a few in some junkyards but tey want $800.00 for a used posi- rear one. I plan on rebuilding the axle so I ave to invest more money into it. I found a 10 blot rear for $200.00 the other day. I like that price. Is there any disadvantages from going wit a 10 blot rater than a 12 ? Any elp would be appreciated. Thanks. Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢
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You might try ebay, I saw a 12 bolt on there for 200 bucks the other day I think but I cannot remembe what section it was under. --- jason mcentee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have been looking for a 12 bolt rear axle assembly for my 71' project. I found a few in some junkyards but tey want $800.00 for a used posi- rear one. I plan on rebuilding the axle so I ave to invest more money into it. I found a 10 blot rear for $200.00 the other day. I like that price. Is there any disadvantages from going wit a 10 blot rater than a 12 ? Any elp would be appreciated. Thanks. = Mack __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash
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Jason, can you tell us what plans you have for your car? Obviously a 12 bolt is the best option however they a hard to find. I bought one, cleaned it up and found out the main caps were gone. No way to rebuild it now. So I got p.o'ed and ordered a complete assy from Mosier Engineering. My point is that is you are planning on putting some sub-400 horses in then just about anything will work. But, if you ever have the chance to approach 500 horses or exceed it then put a properly set up 12 bolt in. My 2-cents worth. Mike Fry Valley View texas --- Mack Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might try ebay, I saw a 12 bolt on there for 200 bucks the other day I think but I cannot remembe what section it was under. --- jason mcentee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have been looking for a 12 bolt rear axle assembly for my 71' project. I found a few in some junkyards but tey want $800.00 for a used posi- rear one. I plan on rebuilding the axle so I ave to invest more money into it. I found a 10 blot rear for $200.00 the other day. I like that price. Is there any disadvantages from going wit a 10 blot rater than a 12 ? Any elp would be appreciated. Thanks. = Mack __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash
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I would absolutely expect a junkyard to know whether it's a 8.2 or 8.5. I'd say it's their business to know! I would also agree with what others have already said -- unless you're building a stout big-block running on slicks, a decent 8.5 10-bolt shouldwithstand a lot of abuse. Look at most of your 11 and 12 second GN's -- most still have 8.5 10-bolts. You can't go wrong with a 12-bolt, other than price. I have a 12-second small-block powered '70 running slicks and a 12-bolt and I do quite a bit of drag racing. No problems since I put it in back in '94 or '95.I run 3.55 gears on a 2-series carrier with a ring-gear spacer and Moser stock-replacement axles (which are much beef-ier than stock). If you want to run a 3-series gear in a 12-bolt,posi carriers are very hard to find, unless you go aftermarket (Eaton or Auburn, etc). I think I paid $150 for a 12-bolt housing, $180 for gears, $250 for Moser axles, Somewhere between $100-200 for the 2-series carrier and then paid a local mechanic to setup the gears. These prices were 10 years ago. I seem to remember when I was doing mine that the costs were similar to building a 10-bolt versus a 12-bolt.(items such as new ring/pinion, axles, bearing kit, brand-new posi carrier)10-bolts can be attractive if you find a complete unit, in good shape, with a posi and a gear you like ready to bolt-in to the car. I went with the 12-bolt knowing it would take anything that I might throw at it, plus the potential re-sale factor. Some people aren't convinced of the strength of a 10-bolt, but no one will question the strength/durability of a 12-bolt. I guess all I'm saying is, unless you're making more than 500 HP, either should work well, but if you're going to end up spending the same amount of money re-furbishing it, you might as well spend the money on a 12-bolt. -Dave -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of jason mcenteeSent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:22 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Rear axle I think i will keep looking for the 12 bolt. The junkyard that has it is a few hundred miles away. i doubt that they would be able to tell me whether or not its an 8.5 or 8.2. Thanks guys.Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are your plans for your 71? If you're running a big block or plan to do any dragracing,I would keep looking for a 12 bolt. Clint HooperHH Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: jason mcentee Hello all, I have been looking for a 12 bolt rear axle assembly for my 71' project. I found a few in some junkyards but tey want $800.00 for a used posi- rear one. I plan on rebuilding the axle so I ave to invest more money into it. I found a 10 blot rear for $200.00 the other day. I like that price. Is there any disadvantages from going wit a 10 blot rater than a 12 ? Any elp would be appreciated. Thanks. Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25"
RE: [Chevelle-list] Rear axle
At 10:17 AM 4/23/2004, you wrote: I would absolutely expect a junkyard to know whether it's a 8.2 or 8.5. I'd say it's their business to know! I would also agree with what others have already said -- unless you're building a stout big-block running on slicks, a decent 8.5 10-bolt should withstand a lot of abuse. Look at most of your 11 and 12 second GN's -- most still have 8.5 10-bolts. Don't forget the BOP 10 bolts (no C clips) I have one (posi) in my 66 Elky, It was there when I bought it.
[Chevelle-list] Rear axle
Hello all, I have been looking for a 12 bolt rear axle assembly for my 71' project. I found a few in some junkyards but tey want $800.00 for a used posi- rear one. I plan on rebuilding the axle so I ave to invest more money into it. I found a 10 blot rear for $200.00 the other day. I like that price. Is there any disadvantages from going wit a 10 blot rater than a 12 ? Any elp would be appreciated. Thanks. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢
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Did you find an 8.5" 10 bolt? or an 8.2" 10 bolt? It' makes a big difference. The 8.5" 10 bolt is very comparable in strength to the 12 bolt, but the 8.2" definately is not. Mike jason mcentee wrote: Hello all, I have been looking for a 12 bolt rear axle assembly for my 71' project. I found a few in some junkyards but tey want $800.00 for a used posi- rear one. I plan on rebuilding the axle so I ave to invest more money into it. I found a 10 blot rear for $200.00 the other day. I like that price. Is there any disadvantages from going wit a 10 blot rater than a 12 ?Any elp would be appreciated. Thanks. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25 -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377 Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6
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What are your plans for your 71? If you're running a big block or plan to do any dragracing,I would keep looking for a 12 bolt. Clint HooperHH Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: jason mcentee Hello all, I have been looking for a 12 bolt rear axle assembly for my 71' project. I found a few in some junkyards but tey want $800.00 for a used posi- rear one. I plan on rebuilding the axle so I ave to invest more money into it. I found a 10 blot rear for $200.00 the other day. I like that price. Is there any disadvantages from going wit a 10 blot rater than a 12 ? Any elp would be appreciated. Thanks.
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how can i tell the difference Don - Original Message - From: Michael Pell To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: 4/22/2004 8:11:08 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Rear axle Did you find an 8.5" 10 bolt? or an 8.2" 10 bolt? It' makes a big difference. The 8.5" 10 bolt is very comparable in strength to the 12 bolt, but the 8.2" definately is not. Mike jason mcentee wrote: Hello all, I have been looking for a 12 bolt rear axle assembly for my 71' project. I found a few in some junkyards but tey want $800.00 for a used posi- rear one. I plan on rebuilding the axle so I ave to invest more money into it. I found a 10 blot rear for $200.00 the other day. I like that price. Is there any disadvantages from going wit a 10 blot rater than a 12 ?Any elp would be appreciated. Thanks. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377 Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6
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- Original Message - From: DON CHESSER To: Michael Pell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: 4/22/2004 8:24:44 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Rear axle how can i tell the difference between 8.5 and 8.2 Don Chesser - Original Message - From: Michael Pell To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: 4/22/2004 8:11:08 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Rear axle Did you find an 8.5" 10 bolt? or an 8.2" 10 bolt? It' makes a big difference. The 8.5" 10 bolt is very comparable in strength to the 12 bolt, but the 8.2" definately is not. Mike jason mcentee wrote: Hello all, I have been looking for a 12 bolt rear axle assembly for my 71' project. I found a few in some junkyards but tey want $800.00 for a used posi- rear one. I plan on rebuilding the axle so I ave to invest more money into it. I found a 10 blot rear for $200.00 the other day. I like that price. Is there any disadvantages from going wit a 10 blot rater than a 12 ?Any elp would be appreciated. Thanks. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377 Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6
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It's a 95% chance that this 10 bolt is an 8.2 Very few Chevelles got an 8.5. You would need to pull the cover off to meaure the ring gear diameter to see which is it. $200 is a bit high for a 10 bolt. I see those rears for $100 max all over the place. You will spend about $850 rebuilding it if you cannot do it yourself. An 8.2 10 bolt will not hold up to a stout big block. It will, however, take the abuse of a mildly built small block without a problem. Tom
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I think i will keep looking for the 12 bolt. The junkyard that has it is a few hundred miles away. i doubt that they would be able to tell me whether or not its an 8.5 or 8.2. Thanks guys.Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are your plans for your 71? If you're running a big block or plan to do any dragracing,I would keep looking for a 12 bolt. Clint HooperHH Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: jason mcentee Hello all, I have been looking for a 12 bolt rear axle assembly for my 71' project. I found a few in some junkyards but tey want $800.00 for a used posi- rear one. I plan on rebuilding the axle so I ave to invest more money into it. I found a 10 blot rear for $200.00 the other day. I like that price. Is there any disadvantages from going wit a 10 blot rater than a 12 ? Any elp would be appreciated. Thanks. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢
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Where are you located,Jason? Clint HooperHH Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: jason mcentee I think i will keep looking for the 12 bolt. The junkyard that has it is a few hundred miles away. i doubt that they would be able to tell me whether or not its an 8.5 or 8.2. Thanks guys.Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are your plans for your 71? If you're running a big block or plan to do any dragracing,I would keep looking for a 12 bolt. Clint HooperHH Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: jason mcentee Hello all, I have been looking for a 12 bolt rear axle assembly for my 71' project. I found a few in some junkyards but tey want $800.00 for a used posi- rear one. I plan on rebuilding the axle so I ave to invest more money into it. I found a 10 blot rear for $200.00 the other day. I like that price. Is there any disadvantages from going wit a 10 blot rater than a 12 ? Any elp would be appreciated. Thanks. Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Remember dans car is a 64 which either had 3.08 or 3.36 . 3.31 was 65 on. Larry (Z)
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Dan: here are a few sites for calculations. They aren't just for gears but other things too. Calculators for Gearheads Compression Ratio Simulator Engine Size and Compression Calculator Tidewater Classics: Calculators Tire size calculator Index of Calculators, Charts, and Diagrams Larry (Z)
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Well, don't make the mistake I did while searching for rear ends. I ended up at a gay porno site. Larry (Z)
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Title: Message Thanks for a real FOOL proof method. Dale ... Not being a Lawyer. I think I would include a disclaimer in this technique. A guy gets a Bazillions Dollars because his Motor Home RV called Cruise control " Auto Pilot" and he left the controls to get a cup of Java ! Just the thought of one person driving and another laying on the ground watching the drive shaft could = disaster One positive note... they would be candidate for the Chevelle Darwin Award :) Wayne ACES # 1556 TC # 186 - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? Here's another method you can use and takes two people. Get a large wire tie and snug it around the driveshaft with what's left pointing down (6:00 position) as a reference, i.e., don't snip off the end. Make a chalk mark on the tire at its lowest point on the ground. Carefully push or drive car one full tire revolution while 2nd person watches the wire tie on the driveshaft and counts the full revs. When the tire has made one full turn, look at the wire tie. How many full turns did it make and where it is now in relation to pointing straight down. Did it make just over 3 turns - could be 3.07 or 3.08; 3 1/4 turns - 3.23, etc.That will get you close to the final ratio with whatever wheels/tires are on the car now. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information
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Title: Message Never said to lay UNDER the car and watch the driveshaft, Wayne. It's easy enough to look underneath the car while knealing BESIDE the car and see the point of the wire tie to see when it gets close to or just after the third revolution as the tire makes a full revolution. After all, you have to have the 2nd person stopyou at one tire revolution. Unless you have a 4+ gear set, the tie is going to be real close to where it started (pointing straight down) to determine its final position at one full tire turn and will indicate a high 2+ or very low 3+ gear ratio. It's not likethe fella that wanted to take the hood off his car and have his buddy ride in the engine bay and look down the carb to see if the vacuum secondaries opened at full throttle. :*) Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WayneSent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:55 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? Thanks for a real FOOL proof method. Dale ... Not being a Lawyer. I think I would include a disclaimer in this technique. A guy gets a Bazillions Dollars because his Motor Home RV called Cruise control " Auto Pilot" and he left the controls to get a cup of Java ! Just the thought of one person driving and another laying on the ground watching the drive shaft could = disaster One positive note... they would be candidate for the Chevelle Darwin Award :) Wayne ACES # 1556 TC # 186 - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? Here's another method you can use and takes two people. Get a large wire tie and snug it around the driveshaft with what's left pointing down (6:00 position) as a reference, i.e., don't snip off the end. Make a chalk mark on the tire at its lowest point on the ground. Carefully push or drive car one full tire revolution while 2nd person watches the wire tie on the driveshaft and counts the full revs. When the tire has made one full turn, look at the wire tie. How many full turns did it make and where it is now in relation to pointing straight down. Did it make just over 3 turns - could be 3.07 or 3.08; 3 1/4 turns - 3.23, etc.That will get you close to the final ratio with whatever wheels/tires are on the car now. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information
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Title: Message To Funny Dale... a local guy bough a set of slotted mags at a yard sale, to match the ones he had on the front.. He jacked up the car ( ONE SIDE) and removed the rear tire and mounted the mag.. He then used scotch red and green sanding pads to clean it up.. and then polish it while it spun with the car running in gear.. Both wheels wee polished in no time and far outshined his on the front of the car So while he was at it , he removed the front wheel and put it on the rear and started the eng. put in it gear, and was set to polish away... only ONE problem these Mags had tires on them with valve stems.. rotating a high RPM.. he picks up the red scotch pad and folds it over his hand and pokes it into the spinning mag. WELL a trip to the Hosp. and came home missing his ring finger.. DUGH! A good plan wentastray Wayne ACES # 1556 TC # 186 - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:12 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? Never said to lay UNDER the car and watch the driveshaft, Wayne. It's easy enough to look underneath the car while knealing BESIDE the car and see the point of the wire tie to see when it gets close to or just after the third revolution as the tire makes a full revolution. After all, you have to have the 2nd person stopyou at one tire revolution. Unless you have a 4+ gear set, the tie is going to be real close to where it started (pointing straight down) to determine its final position at one full tire turn and will indicate a high 2+ or very low 3+ gear ratio. It's not likethe fella that wanted to take the hood off his car and have his buddy ride in the engine bay and look down the carb to see if the vacuum secondaries opened at full throttle. :*) Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WayneSent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:55 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? Thanks for a real FOOL proof method. Dale ... Not being a Lawyer. I think I would include a disclaimer in this technique. A guy gets a Bazillions Dollars because his Motor Home RV called Cruise control " Auto Pilot" and he left the controls to get a cup of Java ! Just the thought of one person driving and another laying on the ground watching the drive shaft could = disaster One positive note... they would be candidate for the Chevelle Darwin Award :) Wayne ACES # 1556 TC # 186 - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? Here's another method you can use and takes two people. Get a large wire tie and snug it around the driveshaft with what's left pointing down (6:00 position) as a reference, i.e., don't snip off the end. Make a chalk mark on the tire at its lowest point on the ground. Carefully push or drive car one full tire revolution while 2nd person watches the wire tie on the driveshaft and counts the full revs. When the tire has made one full turn, look at the wire tie. How many full turns did it make and where it is now in relation to pointing straight down. Did it make just over 3 turns - could be 3.07 or 3.08; 3 1/4 turns - 3.23, etc.That will get you close to the final ratio with whatever wheels/tires are on the car now. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information
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At 07:12 AM 07/23/2003 -0500, you wrote: Never said to lay UNDER the car and watch the driveshaft, Wayne. It's easy enough to look underneath the car while knealing BESIDE the car and see the point of the wire tie to see when it gets close to or just after the third revolution as the tire makes a full revolution. After all, you have to have the 2nd person stop you at one tire revolution. Unless you have a 4+ gear set, the tie is going to be real close to where it started (pointing straight down) to determine its final position at one full tire turn and will indicate a high 2+ or very low 3+ gear ratio. It's not like the fella that wanted to take the hood off his car and have his buddy ride in the engine bay and look down the carb to see if the vacuum secondaries opened at full throttle. :*) No,No, you lay under car with spray gun ready, tell Wife to (hit it), pull gun trigger let off just before the rear U joint to end up with a driveshaft like this. Bottom Pic.. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/page2.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes) Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/ Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/ El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/ My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Title: Message Geez, at 3,000 RPM I'm doing 120! Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])'66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale McIntoshSent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:04 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? Guess I'm not doing too bad then. The GR8PMKN is taching right at 3000 in the 75-80 range with the 3.07's. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:53 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??I tach 3100 @ 70MPH on the freeway in my Chevelle... -Tim-1966 Chevelle
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
lol.. when I first bagged my 64, I had a popping noise when raising the rear passenger side.. to figure out what was happening...I put the axle tubes on jack stands, laid under the axle, and had my wife raise and lower the car so I could see what was going on.. It wasn't a very good feeling, considering my car does not raise slowly at all... Oh well, at least I figured out where the noise was coming from.. Dan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala SShttp://www.lowriderimpala.com - Original Message - From: Dave Corgill To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? At 07:12 AM 07/23/2003 -0500, you wrote:Never said to lay UNDER the car and watch the driveshaft, Wayne. It's easy enough to look underneath the car while knealing BESIDE the car and see the point of the wire tie to see when it gets close to or just after the third revolution as the tire makes a full revolution. After all, you have to have the 2nd person stop you at one tire revolution. Unless you have a 4+ gear set, the tie is going to be real close to where it started (pointing straight down) to determine its final position at one full tire turn and will indicate a high 2+ or very low 3+ gear ratio.It's not like the fella that wanted to take the hood off his car and have his buddy ride in the engine bay and look down the carb to see if the vacuum secondaries opened at full throttle. :*)No,No, you lay under car with spray gun ready, tell Wife to (hit it),pull gun trigger let off just before the rear U joint to end upwith a driveshaft like this. Bottom Pic..http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/page2.html[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes)Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com___Chevelle-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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My posi traction is a 3.31 i think. Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? In a message dated 7/22/2003 5:48:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks.. I tried that, and the driveshaft only spun 1.75 times to make a complete tire revolution.. Could this be right?? Thanks Dan McIntoshNope, Chevrolet never offered a gear ratio that low. They started around 2.56 I think. The most popular ratios are 2.73, 3.08, 3.23, 3.31, 3.55, 3.73Tom
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Title: Message So Dale how was thw wind factor? - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:12 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? Never said to lay UNDER the car and watch the driveshaft, Wayne. It's easy enough to look underneath the car while knealing BESIDE the car and see the point of the wire tie to see when it gets close to or just after the third revolution as the tire makes a full revolution. After all, you have to have the 2nd person stopyou at one tire revolution. Unless you have a 4+ gear set, the tie is going to be real close to where it started (pointing straight down) to determine its final position at one full tire turn and will indicate a high 2+ or very low 3+ gear ratio. It's not likethe fella that wanted to take the hood off his car and have his buddy ride in the engine bay and look down the carb to see if the vacuum secondaries opened at full throttle. :*) Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WayneSent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:55 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? Thanks for a real FOOL proof method. Dale ... Not being a Lawyer. I think I would include a disclaimer in this technique. A guy gets a Bazillions Dollars because his Motor Home RV called Cruise control " Auto Pilot" and he left the controls to get a cup of Java ! Just the thought of one person driving and another laying on the ground watching the drive shaft could = disaster One positive note... they would be candidate for the Chevelle Darwin Award :) Wayne ACES # 1556 TC # 186 - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? Here's another method you can use and takes two people. Get a large wire tie and snug it around the driveshaft with what's left pointing down (6:00 position) as a reference, i.e., don't snip off the end. Make a chalk mark on the tire at its lowest point on the ground. Carefully push or drive car one full tire revolution while 2nd person watches the wire tie on the driveshaft and counts the full revs. When the tire has made one full turn, look at the wire tie. How many full turns did it make and where it is now in relation to pointing straight down. Did it make just over 3 turns - could be 3.07 or 3.08; 3 1/4 turns - 3.23, etc.That will get you close to the final ratio with whatever wheels/tires are on the car now. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information
[Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Fellas.. Is there a good way to determine rear axle ratio without pulling the rear end apart and counting teeth.. Someone told me to turn one of the rear wheels, and see how many times the axle revolves, but that just didn't seem right when I tried it... Any ideas?? Thanks Dan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala SShttp://www.lowriderimpala.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
It does work for getting a general idea of what gear is in the rear. Bring both tires off the ground if a posi, I mark the tire on the inside and position this mark straight down. Then mark the drive shaft near the rear u-joint with reference to a stationary point on the axle housing. Slowly turn the marked tire and count the number of drive shaft revolutions to one full tire rotation. ie mine is a 3.73 so when the drive shaft turned 3 and 3/4s that was close enough to prove a 3.73. Krister Meister Bloomingdale, IL '66 SS #'s Fellas.. Is there a good way to determine rear axle ratio without pulling the rear end apart and counting teeth.. Someone told me to turn one of the rear wheels, and see how many times the axle revolves, but that just didn't seem right when I tried it... Any ideas?? Thanks Dan McIntosh Pavement Scraping 1964 Impala SS http://www.lowriderimpala.com Krister Meister Marketing Specialist NSK Precision America, Inc (630) 889-8031 ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Thanks.. I tried that, and the driveshaft only spun 1.75 times to make a complete tire revolution.. Could this be right?? Thanks Dan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala SShttp://www.lowriderimpala.com - Original Message - From: Krister Meister To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? It does work for getting a general idea of what gear is in the rear. Bringboth tires off the ground if a posi, I mark the tire on the inside andposition this mark straight down. Then mark the drive shaft near the rearu-joint with reference to a stationary point on the axle housing. Slowlyturn the marked tire and count the number of drive shaft revolutions to onefull tire rotation. ie mine is a 3.73 so when the drive shaft turned 3 and3/4s that was close enough to prove a 3.73.Krister MeisterBloomingdale, IL'66 SS #'sFellas..Is there a good way to determine rear axle ratio without pulling the rearend apart and counting teeth..Someone told me to turn one of the rear wheels, and see how many times theaxle revolves, but that just didn't seem right when I tried it...Any ideas??ThanksDan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala SShttp://www.lowriderimpala.comKrister MeisterMarketing SpecialistNSK Precision America, Inc(630) 889-8031___Chevelle-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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In a message dated 7/22/2003 5:48:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks.. I tried that, and the driveshaft only spun 1.75 times to make a complete tire revolution.. Could this be right?? Thanks Dan McIntosh Pavement Scraping 1964 Impala SS http://www.lowriderimpala.com Dan let me know when you want to get together on this and the other. John ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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In a message dated 7/22/2003 5:48:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks.. I tried that, and the driveshaft only spun 1.75 times to make a complete tire revolution.. Could this be right?? Thanks Dan McIntosh Nope, Chevrolet never offered a gear ratio that low. They started around 2.56 I think. The most popular ratios are 2.73, 3.08, 3.23, 3.31, 3.55, 3.73 Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Dan,does your car still have the original rear end? Clint HooperLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/22/2003 5:48:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks.. I tried that, and the driveshaft only spun 1.75 times to make a complete tire revolution.. Could this be right?? Thanks Dan McIntoshNope, Chevrolet never offered a gear ratio that low. They started around 2.56 I think. The most popular ratios are 2.73, 3.08, 3.23, 3.31, 3.55, 3.73Tom
RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Dan, Mine did about the same and I was wondering what I did wrong. I wonder if it has anything to do with an open differential. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? In a message dated 7/22/2003 5:48:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks.. I tried that, and the driveshaft only spun 1.75 times to make a complete tire revolution.. Could this be right?? Thanks Dan McIntosh Nope, Chevrolet never offered a gear ratio that low. They started around 2.56 I think. The most popular ratios are 2.73, 3.08, 3.23, 3.31, 3.55, 3.73 Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Thanks.. I tried that, and the driveshaft only spun 1.75 times to make a complete tire revolution.. Could this be right?? Thanks Dan McIntosh If you don't have positraction, you need to turn both rear tires at the same time. That assures that you are turning the ring gear and not just spinning the side pinion gears in the diff. BL
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So , would that mean that the 1.75 turn was half the ratio. 1.75 X 2 = 3.5 or 3.55 rear end? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bill LessenberrySent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:38 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? Thanks.. I tried that, and the driveshaft only spun 1.75 times to make a complete tire revolution.. Could this be right?? Thanks Dan McIntoshIf you don't have positraction, you need to turn both rear tires at the same time. That assures that you are turning the ring gear and not just spinning the side pinion gears in the diff.BL
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In a message dated 7/22/2003 7:03:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks. That makes sense. Now, Ill have to go home and try it again. No problem :-) Tom
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In a message dated 7/22/2003 6:35:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dan, Mine did about the same and I was wondering what I did wrong. I wonder if it has anything to do with an open differential. Bingo, if it has an open rear, you need to spin the yoke and not the tire. THe spider gears are moving instead of the ring gear. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Probably has to do with the size of the tires. You've got some pretty little tires on there that's probably throwing off that methodjust a thought. Matt At 06:14 PM 7/22/2003 -0400, you wrote: In a message dated 7/22/2003 5:48:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks.. I tried that, and the driveshaft only spun 1.75 times to make a complete tire revolution.. Could this be right?? Thanks Dan McIntosh Nope, Chevrolet never offered a gear ratio that low. They started around 2.56 I think. The most popular ratios are 2.73, 3.08, 3.23, 3.31, 3.55, 3.73 Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Tire size shouldn't matter. One revolution is one revolution... 8) JDHall - Original Message - From: Matthew Post To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? Probably has to do with the size of the tires. You've got some pretty little tires on there that's probably throwing off that methodjust a thought.MattAt 06:14 PM 7/22/2003 -0400, you wrote: In a message dated 7/22/2003 5:48:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks.. I tried that, and the driveshaft only spun 1.75 times to make a complete tire revolution.. Could this be right?? Thanks Dan McIntoshNope, Chevrolet never offered a gear ratio that low. They started around 2.56 I think. The most popular ratios are 2.73, 3.08, 3.23, 3.31, 3.55, 3.73Tom
RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Thanks. That makes sense. Now, Ill have to go home and try it again. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 4:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? In a message dated 7/22/2003 6:35:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dan, Mine did about the same and I was wondering what I did wrong. I wonder if it has anything to do with an open differential. Bingo, if it has an open rear, you need to spin the yoke and not the tire. THe spider gears are moving instead of the ring gear. Tom
RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Title: Message Here's another method you can use and takes two people. Get a large wire tie and snug it around the driveshaft with what's left pointing down (6:00 position) as a reference, i.e., don't snip off the end. Make a chalk mark on the tire at its lowest point on the ground. Carefully push or drive car one full tire revolution while 2nd person watches the wire tie on the driveshaft and counts the full revs. When the tire has made one full turn, look at the wire tie. How many full turns did it make and where it is now in relation to pointing straight down. Did it make just over 3 turns - could be 3.07 or 3.08; 3 1/4 turns - 3.23, etc.That will get you close to the final ratio with whatever wheels/tires are on the car now. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information
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I bet you're right about the 3.08,Dan. When the wife and I got married,she owned a nice 64 Impala two door hardtop. It had a 283, powerglide trans,and 3.08 cogs. Clint HooperLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan McIntosh well, you guys made me recheck my math...instead of finding the tire radius using the standard formula, I went out and measured it instead... Now the numbers work out to 3.08. Very nice work fellas.. where can I find this info on the rear ends at?? Thanks.. Dan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala SShttp://www.lowriderimpala.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? In a message dated 7/22/2003 9:09:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think the 3.31 ratio was offered from 55-64,Tom. I think 3.08 and 3.36 were the two gear ratios offered in GM passenger cars w/Powerglide trans.Clint HooperLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htmYou're right Clint, minor oversight :-)Tom
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I tach 3100 @ 70MPH on the freeway in my Chevelle... -Tim- 1966 Chevelle
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Title: Message
I might be mistaken but the rear used in 55-64 was
a Hotchkis type and the the 65 later featured a Salisbury
rear.
However,I might have the designations
backwards.g
Clint HooperLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES
#1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Dan
McIntosh
I believe it to be stock, with the removable
center carrier...
I have no idea of the "model designation" for
this type rear end..
which makes it difficult to look up gears on the
net...
thanks
Dan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala
SShttp://www.lowriderimpala.com
- Original Message -
From:
Dale McIntosh
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:58
PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle
ratio??
Do you happen to know what year rear end it is? I
assume a full size car 64 or older? I do have a GM parts book for
55-64 passenger car rears but no id information. Ratios available were
3.08, 3.36, 3.55, 3.70, 4.11, 4.56, 4.88, 5.13 and 5.38
Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles
Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan
McIntoshSent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:40 PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear
axle ratio??
well, you guys made me recheck my
math...instead of finding the tire radius using the standard formula, I
went out and measured it instead...
Now the numbers work out to
3.08.
Very nice work fellas.. where can I find this
info on the rear ends at??
Thanks..
Dan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala
SShttp://www.lowriderimpala.com
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:10
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear
axle ratio??
In a message dated 7/22/2003 9:09:41
PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't think
the 3.31 ratio was offered from 55-64,Tom. I think 3.08 and 3.36 were
the two gear ratios offered in GM passenger cars w/Powerglide
trans.Clint
HooperLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES
#1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htmYou're right Clint, minor oversight
:-)Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Title: Message
I believe it to be stock, with the removable center
carrier...
I have no idea of the "model designation" for this
type rear end..
which makes it difficult to look up gears on the
net...
thanks
Dan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala
SShttp://www.lowriderimpala.com
- Original Message -
From:
Dale McIntosh
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:58
PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle
ratio??
Do you happen to know what year rear end it is? I assume a
full size car 64 or older? I do have a GM parts book for 55-64 passenger
car rears but no id information. Ratios available were 3.08, 3.36, 3.55,
3.70, 4.11, 4.56, 4.88, 5.13 and 5.38
Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67
SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967
Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dan McIntoshSent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:40
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re:
[Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
well, you guys made me recheck my
math...instead of finding the tire radius using the standard formula, I went
out and measured it instead...
Now the numbers work out to 3.08.
Very nice work fellas.. where can I find this
info on the rear ends at??
Thanks..
Dan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala
SShttp://www.lowriderimpala.com
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:10
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear
axle ratio??
In a message dated 7/22/2003
9:09:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't think the
3.31 ratio was offered from 55-64,Tom. I think 3.08 and 3.36 were the
two gear ratios offered in GM passenger cars w/Powerglide
trans.Clint HooperLT5 Registry
Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htmYou're right Clint, minor oversight
:-)Tom
RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Title: Message which makes it difficult to look up gears on the net... I'm so glad you choose to says "gears" instead of "rears" :*) thanks
RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Title: Message Do you happen to know what year rear end it is? I assume a full size car 64 or older? I do have a GM parts book for 55-64 passenger car rears but no id information. Ratios available were 3.08, 3.36, 3.55, 3.70, 4.11, 4.56, 4.88, 5.13 and 5.38 Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan McIntoshSent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:40 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? well, you guys made me recheck my math...instead of finding the tire radius using the standard formula, I went out and measured it instead... Now the numbers work out to 3.08. Very nice work fellas.. where can I find this info on the rear ends at?? Thanks.. Dan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala SShttp://www.lowriderimpala.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? In a message dated 7/22/2003 9:09:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think the 3.31 ratio was offered from 55-64,Tom. I think 3.08 and 3.36 were the two gear ratios offered in GM passenger cars w/Powerglide trans.Clint HooperLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htmYou're right Clint, minor oversight :-)Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Dan, More than likely it is a 3.31. Don't forget that tire size comes into play here. The taller the tire, the lower (numerically) the ratio will turn out. As for highway RPM's, I am turning 3600 RPM at 75 MPH on the highway in my 70. It has 4.10's in it. Some say that's too high for open road, I say that's BS. My car gets 15 MPG at that rate and it runs great, has over 10,000 miles on the motor. Most say to try and keep the RPM's at or lower than 3400 on the higway so you are good to go my friend :-). Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Ok guys, thanks for all the feedback... I figured out a good way to do it.. hooked up a tach, had my wife get in front of me in her truck and do 60... I took note of the engine RPM's at that speed... then did the same at 70... doing the math...2900RPM @ 60MPH=3.27gear ratio and 3350RPM @ 70MPH =3.25 gear ratio So, I believe I have a 3.23, per the list from Tom... (thanks tom) What do you guys think about that RPM?? Is it too much? Thanks again for all the help!! Dan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala SShttp://www.lowriderimpala.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? In a message dated 7/22/2003 7:03:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks. That makes sense. Now, Ill have to go home and try it again. No problem :-)Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??
Sounds like your rear end has a 3.36 ratio,Dan. GM didn't offer a 3.25 ratio from 1955-64,,still don't. Clint HooperLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan McIntosh Ok guys, thanks for all the feedback... I figured out a good way to do it.. hooked up a tach, had my wife get in front of me in her truck and do 60... I took note of the engine RPM's at that speed... then did the same at 70... doing the math...2900RPM @ 60MPH=3.27gear ratio and 3350RPM @ 70MPH =3.25 gear ratio So, I believe I have a 3.23, per the list from Tom... (thanks tom) What do you guys think about that RPM?? Is it too much? Thanks again for all the help!! Dan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala SShttp://www.lowriderimpala.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? In a message dated 7/22/2003 7:03:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks. That makes sense. Now, Ill have to go home and try it again. No problem :-)Tom
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well, you guys made me recheck my math...instead of finding the tire radius using the standard formula, I went out and measured it instead... Now the numbers work out to 3.08. Very nice work fellas.. where can I find this info on the rear ends at?? Thanks.. Dan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala SShttp://www.lowriderimpala.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? In a message dated 7/22/2003 9:09:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think the 3.31 ratio was offered from 55-64,Tom. I think 3.08 and 3.36 were the two gear ratios offered in GM passenger cars w/Powerglide trans.Clint HooperLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htmYou're right Clint, minor oversight :-)Tom
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Title: Message Us fellow gearheads like those,too,,as long as they're the right "ratio". G Clint HooperLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh which makes it difficult to look up gears on the net... I'm so glad you choose to says "gears" instead of "rears" :*) thanks
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Well Dan, you can do like I did w/ my 70 SS, I put a 700r4,with the highest stall converter available,I have 4:56's in the car, so using the first 3 grs. for playtime,yet it's like having a 5 spd automatic.,,I just love it - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? Dan, More than likely it is a 3.31. Don't forget that tire size comes into play here. The taller the tire, the lower (numerically) the ratio will turn out.As for highway RPM's, I am turning 3600 RPM at 75 MPH on the highway in my 70. It has 4.10's in it. Some say that's too high for open road, I say that's BS. My car gets 15 MPG at that rate and it runs great, has over 10,000 miles on the motor. Most say to try and keep the RPM's at or lower than 3400 on the higway so you are good to go my friend :-).Tom
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Also Dan,,the absolute to check your ratio is simple,,put car up on jacks,,turn thedriveshaft 1 revolution, watch how many turns the tire turns,,that's your ratio - Original Message - From: Brian Zack To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? Dan, Mine did about the same and I was wondering what I did wrong. I wonder if it has anything to do with an open differential. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 4:14 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio?? In a message dated 7/22/2003 5:48:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks.. I tried that, and the driveshaft only spun 1.75 times to make a complete tire revolution.. Could this be right?? Thanks Dan McIntosh Nope, Chevrolet never offered a gear ratio that low. They started around 2.56 I think. The most popular ratios are 2.73, 3.08, 3.23, 3.31, 3.55, 3.73Tom
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I don't think the 3.31 ratio was offered from 55-64,Tom. I think 3.08 and 3.36 were the two gear ratios offered in GM passenger cars w/Powerglide trans. Clint HooperLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan, More than likely it is a 3.31. Don't forget that tire size comes into play here. The taller the tire, the lower (numerically) the ratio will turn out.As for highway RPM's, I am turning 3600 RPM at 75 MPH on the highway in my 70. It has 4.10's in it. Some say that's too high for open road, I say that's BS. My car gets 15 MPG at that rate and it runs great, has over 10,000 miles on the motor. Most say to try and keep the RPM's at or lower than 3400 on the higway so you are good to go my friend :-).Tom
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In a message dated 7/22/2003 9:09:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think the 3.31 ratio was offered from 55-64,Tom. I think 3.08 and 3.36 were the two gear ratios offered in GM passenger cars w/Powerglide trans. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm You're right Clint, minor oversight :-) Tom
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Title: Message Guess I'm not doing too bad then. The GR8PMKN is taching right at 3000 in the 75-80 range with the 3.07's. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:53 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear axle ratio??I tach 3100 @ 70MPH on the freeway in my Chevelle... -Tim-1966 Chevelle
[Chevelle-List] rear axle dimensions
still fighting this wheel clearance issue.. does anyone have a list of the drum to drum dimensions on different GM axles?? if I could find one about 2 inches shorter than mine thanks all. Dan McIntosh64 Impala SSwww.alloldchevy.com
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Dan, Maybe there is something at this site to help you out. http://www.carnut.com/specs/frear.html Dave Hasselberg 64 Malibu coupe
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Title: Message I picked this info up off the net somewhere...might be of some help. http://www.chevellestuff.com/tech/rear_end_widths.htm Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan McIntoshSent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:20 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; impala listSubject: [Chevelle-List] rear axle dimensions still fighting this wheel clearance issue.. does anyone have a list of the drum to drum dimensions on different GM axles?? if I could find one about 2 inches shorter than mine thanks all. Dan McIntosh64 Impala SSwww.alloldchevy.com
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear axle swap...
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Jason, In addition to the Chevelle, Monte, and El Camino, you can also use rearends from the Olds Cutlass / 442, Buick Skylark / Special / GS, Pontiac GTO / Lemans, or any other A-body. You should try to get a rearend from a '68 to '72, but you can also use a '65 to '67 however they are 1 narrower. -Bob Cunningham On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:41:31 -0500 Morris, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Got a call from my mechanic, it seems that the rear axle bearing in my 69 Elky may have gone dry. He said that there is oil in the passenger side brake drum and I may have to replace the rear axle. If so can anyone tell me what axles can be swapped (i.e. chevelle, Monte, etc...). Also is this a common problem or am I just the unlucky one. Thanks JM 69 El Camino (work in progress) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Oil gets into the drum when the seal goes bad. Usually the seal goes bad when the axle bearing goes bad. However, IMO it is highly unlikely that you need a new axle. The only reasons you would need a whole axle is if the bearing was completely frozen and managed to cut a groove in the axle, or if the axle somehow got bent (extremely unlikely unless it's been hit). These bearings and seals are extremely easy to replace. I would recommend either getting a second opinion or trying to do it yourself. If you don't own a slap hammer, you can take the drum off, turn it around, and put it on backwards with enough slack so that the drum can move back and forth a bit to create the slapping action. Just make sure you have caught enough threads on the lug nuts so that the nut won't strip off. For some seals, you need a tool called either a ladyfinger or lady slipper. You can also make one of these out of a toggle bolt from a hardware store (used to hang heavy objects on sheetrock, has a metal butterfly piece that springs out after it's inserted in the hole). You usually have to un-bolt the brake backing plate before you can pull the axle. Some axles have C-clips in the pumpkin, which also have to be removed before you can pull the axle, and should always be replaced with brand new ones. You'll have to take it to an auto parts store that does light machine work to have the old bearing pressed off and the new one pressed on. If you get a service manual, the whole procedure should be in there. It should take you about a half hour tops. You probably should do both sides, especially because the car is new to you and you don't know when the other was replaced last. Usually if one is old the other is too, although some people only replace one at a time to save a few dollars. As far as this being a common problem, it is the natural result of wear on a moving part. It is not unusual. I also have a 69 El Camino, but haven't touched the rear yet, so unfortunately I don't know the exact setup. If you live near me (NYC or Long Island area), I'd be willing to stop by and show you how to do it, unless you need it done immediately. John -Original Message- Got a call from my mechanic, it seems that the rear axle bearing in my 69 Elky may have gone dry. He said that there is oil in the passenger side brake drum and I may have to replace the rear axle. If so can anyone tell me what axles can be swapped (i.e. chevelle, Monte, etc...). Also is this a common problem or am I just the unlucky one. Thanks JM 69 El Camino (work in progress) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I was refering to the axle. But yes, no point in going in without replacing both the bearing seal. rick On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:31:13 -0400 John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Sorry Richard, but this is incomplete advice. He should replace both the bearing and the seal. Usually if the seal is bad the bearing is too. When the bearing is bad, the weight of the car puts excessive pressure on one side of the seal. Some times the metal part of the seal just outside the rubber area will even go out of round because the axle is no longer centered in the seal. This is why it leaks. You don't get a good seal when the axle is not centered in the hole. If he just replaces the seal, it will probably just get wiped out again. This is a cheap and easy job to do, and there's no reason to do it half way. -Original Message- Unless the axle shaft is boogered up, no need to replace it. Just replace the seal. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Title: RE: [Chevelle-List] Rear axle swap... Thanks for the info Rick, I don't know the damage yet but my mechanic told me that if the axle was pitted or grooved, I would need a new one. I'll ask him about that axle saver, that could save some $. BTW, this is going to be a daily driver, so the axle saver mite be good enough for me. JM 69 Elky -- From: richard a schaefer[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear axle swap... Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:41:31 -0500 Morris, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Got a call from my mechanic, it seems that the rear axle bearing in my 69 Elky may have gone dry. He said that there is oil in the passenger side brake drum and I may have to replace the rear axle. If so can anyone tell me what axles can be swapped (i.e. chevelle, Monte, etc...). Also is this a common problem or am I just the unlucky one. Thanks JM 69 El Camino (work in progress) jason- There is a seal at the end of the axle tube that keeps the oil inside. Unless the axle shaft is boogered up, no need to replace it. Just replace the seal. Any 68-72 Chevelle, el camino or Monte Carlo axle should work, EXCEPT I believe that there is a difference between 10 12 bolt rear axles. Get the correct one. Are you redoing the el camino as a daily driver or racer? IF its only gonna see a very mild motor, you can have him install Axle saver bearings . The axle usually gets boogered at the bearing, the axle saver moves the bearing race outboard a bit to a good axle surface. Replacing the axle for this type problem is relatively common, someone did create the axle saver for that problem. rick - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
