Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
Try here: http://frugalmechanic.com/auto-parts/cooling-system-water-outlet Quoting Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, dennis.mcgil...@mcgilliscompany.com wrote: Hi John, Mine still has the original cast housing since I could not find a new one that points to the passenger side of the radiator. If you find there is such a thing, please let me know.
Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
Hi John, Frugal did not list it, but you caused me to take another look at CKS-O'Reilly online and I found an original replacement there. It was a little pricey at $30 including freight but it seems to be a rare part used for factory air cars which point to the passenger side and this is the only one I have found. Thanks! Dennis McGillis 1965 Malibu SS-350 - Original Message - From: John Nasta 6...@johnnasta.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet) Try here: http://frugalmechanic.com/auto-parts/cooling-system-water-outlet Quoting Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, dennis.mcgil...@mcgilliscompany.com wrote: Hi John, Mine still has the original cast housing since I could not find a new one that points to the passenger side of the radiator. If you find there is such a thing, please let me know.
Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
There is an aluminum one that swivels and uses the new O ring gasket. Try Jegs -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of dennis.mcgil...@mcgilliscompany.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:01 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet) Hi John, Mine still has the original cast housing since I could not find a new one that points to the passenger side of the radiator. If you find there is such a thing, please let me know. Dennis McGillis 1965 Malibu SS-350 (2005 Vortec crate engine) with factory A/C - Original Message - From: John Nasta 6...@johnnasta.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:32 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet) Just a little caveat emptor... When I built the engine for my El Camino 4 or 5 years ago, I put one of those shiny chrome thermostat housings on it. It rotted from the inside and developed a hole, which caused a bad leak. Today I bought the good old fashioned cast one and the walls of it are substantially thicker. I was lucky not to get stuck somewhere. I first noticed it when I was just moving the car from one side of the street to the other for parking regulations.
Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
Very informative; thanks. If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. Red Green - Original Message - From: Granite City Performance granitecityperforma...@charter.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 10:49:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet) Pewter? I don't think so. Pewter is comprised of 85% to 92% tin which is corrosion-resistant. It's most likely made from what is commonly referred to as pot metal a low-grade alloy made up of zinc , aluminum and other metals. It's great for making lots of cheap castings for next to nothing but can be prone to instability over time, especially in an elevated temperature, corrosive environment. Brass, which is an alloy of copper and zinc, is very corrosion resistant to atmospheric, water and many salt-water conditions but bronze, with it's higher copper content, is more corrosion resistant than brass. Galvanic corrosion is probably a car cooling system's greatest enemy. Not only do you have to consider each material's physical characteristics but you have to reduce the electrical potential between the two metals. By using 2) electrochemicaly dissimilar metals ( aluminum and brass ), an electrically conductive path between the two metals (the chassis) and an electrolyte to allow the flow of metal ions (water coolant), you create a galvanic cell. The galvanic corrosion rate depends on the electrical potential between the two metals; zinc and aluminum (pot metal) being the most reactive , then iron (your cylinder block), chromium alloys - including chrome plated materials as less reactive, then brass, copper, nickel and stainless steel as the least reactive. Corrosion inhibitors (Bar's Leak) can be added to the system and will slow-down but not eliminate galvanic corrosion. To reduce galvanic corrosion it is recommended to use the same material (or materials with a similar electric potential) throughout out the cooling system and ensure other components (plumbing connectors) do not introduce a reactive metal into the system. I know, I know... blah-blah da blah, blah, da blah. --Don : G r a n i t e . C i t y . P e r f o r m a n c e : custom engineered competition components http://www.granitecityperformance.com/ From: Johann Grobler Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:21 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet) I spoke to my friend Joe and he informed me that the chrome housing that packed up was made from Pewter, that is why it rotted! He is casting new ones from brass! No more rust. Can also be chromed or polished to a high shine! - Original Message - From: Bob Haggard skylark1...@windstream.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet) I think that using distilled water with your antifreeze helps stop corrosion and maybe waterpump lubricant may help too. I had alway heard the same thing about the cheap chrome waternecks but I used one for years and when I removed my 283 and sold it, the thermostate housing still looked like new. The cast iron one that was on my Buick 350 looks like it was left in a bucket of salt water for years and water pumps will spring a leak too so cast iron has it's problems too. Just a thought but I agree and I would not use one again. Bob Haggard Larry Williams larrydwilli...@hughes.net wrote: Made in China!? I have the used the same cast iron housing since 94. John Nasta wrote: Just a little caveat emptor... When I built the engine for my El Camino 4 or 5 years ago, I put one of those shiny chrome thermostat housings on it. It rotted from the inside and developed a hole, which caused a bad leak. Today I bought the good old fashioned cast one and the walls of it are substantially thicker. I was lucky not to get stuck somewhere. I first noticed it when I was just moving the car from one side of the street to the other for parking regulations. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2227 - Release Date: 07/09/09 05:55:00
Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
Thanks for the great info!
I wonder if the elements (Chlorine etc) in our drinking water in South Africa
is not condusive to creating a galvanic situation in the cooling system and
Bob's suggestion to use distilled water is not the way to prevent any chemical
cocktail from forming!
Our water quality is reducing by the day with raw sewerage being pumped into
our rivers!!! Sticking to beer!
- Original Message -
From: Granite City Performance
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
Pewter?
I don't think so. Pewter is comprised of 85% to 92% tin which is
corrosion-resistant. It's most likely made from what is commonly referred to
as pot metal a low-grade alloy made up of zinc, aluminum and other metals.
It's great for making lots of cheap castings for next to nothing but can be
prone to instability over time, especially in an elevated temperature,
corrosive environment.
Brass, which is an alloy of copper and zinc, is very corrosion resistant to
atmospheric, water and many salt-water conditions but bronze, with it's higher
copper content, is more corrosion resistant than brass.
Galvanic corrosion is probably a car cooling system's greatest enemy. Not
only do you have to consider each material's physical characteristics but you
have to reduce the electrical potential between the two metals. By using 2)
electrochemicaly dissimilar metals (aluminum and brass), an electrically
conductive path between the two metals (the chassis) and an electrolyte to
allow the flow of metal ions (water coolant), you create a galvanic cell.
The galvanic corrosion rate depends on the electrical potential between the
two metals; zinc and aluminum (pot metal) being the most reactive, then iron
(your cylinder block), chromium alloys - including chrome plated materials as
less reactive, then brass, copper, nickel and stainless steel as the least
reactive.
Corrosion inhibitors (Bar's Leak) can be added to the system and will
slow-down but not eliminate galvanic corrosion. To reduce galvanic corrosion
it is recommended to use the same material (or materials with a similar
electric potential) throughout out the cooling system and ensure other
components (plumbing connectors) do not introduce a reactive metal into the
system.
I know, I know... blah-blah da blah, blah, da blah.
--Don
: G r a n i t e . C i t y . P e r f o r m a n c e :
custom engineered competition components
http://www.granitecityperformance.com/
From: Johann Grobler
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:21 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
I spoke to my friend Joe and he informed me that the chrome housing that
packed up was made from Pewter, that is why it rotted! He is casting new
ones from brass! No more rust. Can also be chromed or polished to a high
shine!
- Original Message -
From: Bob Haggard skylark1...@windstream.net
To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
I think that using distilled water with your antifreeze helps stop
corrosion and maybe waterpump lubricant may help too. I had alway heard
the same thing about the cheap chrome waternecks but I used one for years
and when I removed my 283 and sold it, the thermostate housing still looked
like new. The cast iron one that was on my Buick 350 looks like it was
left in a bucket of salt water for years and water pumps will spring a leak
too so cast iron has it's problems too.
Just a thought but I agree and I would not use one again.
Bob Haggard
Larry Williams larrydwilli...@hughes.net wrote:
Made in China!? I have the used the same cast iron housing since 94.
John Nasta wrote:
Just a little caveat emptor... When I built the engine for my El
Camino 4 or 5 years ago, I put one of those shiny chrome thermostat
housings on it. It rotted from the inside and developed a hole, which
caused a bad leak. Today I bought the good old fashioned cast one and
the walls of it are substantially thicker. I was lucky not to get
stuck somewhere. I first noticed it when I was just moving the car
from one side of the street to the other for parking regulations.
No virus found in this incoming message.
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Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
Bob, You are right. I am using Bars Leaks with the Anti-freeze and the system is behaving! Bars Leaks contains a waterpump lubricant. Jphann - Original Message - From: Bob Haggard skylark1...@windstream.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet) I think that using distilled water with your antifreeze helps stop corrosion and maybe waterpump lubricant may help too. I had alway heard the same thing about the cheap chrome waternecks but I used one for years and when I removed my 283 and sold it, the thermostate housing still looked like new. The cast iron one that was on my Buick 350 looks like it was left in a bucket of salt water for years and water pumps will spring a leak too so cast iron has it's problems too. Just a thought but I agree and I would not use one again. Bob Haggard Larry Williams larrydwilli...@hughes.net wrote: Made in China!? I have the used the same cast iron housing since 94. John Nasta wrote: Just a little caveat emptor... When I built the engine for my El Camino 4 or 5 years ago, I put one of those shiny chrome thermostat housings on it. It rotted from the inside and developed a hole, which caused a bad leak. Today I bought the good old fashioned cast one and the walls of it are substantially thicker. I was lucky not to get stuck somewhere. I first noticed it when I was just moving the car from one side of the street to the other for parking regulations. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2227 - Release Date: 07/09/09 05:55:00
Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
I spoke to my friend Joe and he informed me that the chrome housing that packed up was made from Pewter, that is why it rotted! He is casting new ones from brass! No more rust. Can also be chromed or polished to a high shine! - Original Message - From: Bob Haggard skylark1...@windstream.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet) I think that using distilled water with your antifreeze helps stop corrosion and maybe waterpump lubricant may help too. I had alway heard the same thing about the cheap chrome waternecks but I used one for years and when I removed my 283 and sold it, the thermostate housing still looked like new. The cast iron one that was on my Buick 350 looks like it was left in a bucket of salt water for years and water pumps will spring a leak too so cast iron has it's problems too. Just a thought but I agree and I would not use one again. Bob Haggard Larry Williams larrydwilli...@hughes.net wrote: Made in China!? I have the used the same cast iron housing since 94. John Nasta wrote: Just a little caveat emptor... When I built the engine for my El Camino 4 or 5 years ago, I put one of those shiny chrome thermostat housings on it. It rotted from the inside and developed a hole, which caused a bad leak. Today I bought the good old fashioned cast one and the walls of it are substantially thicker. I was lucky not to get stuck somewhere. I first noticed it when I was just moving the car from one side of the street to the other for parking regulations. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2227 - Release Date: 07/09/09 05:55:00
Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
Pewter? I don't think so. Pewter is comprised of 85% to 92% tin which is corrosion-resistant. It's most likely made from what is commonly referred to as pot metal a low-grade alloy made up of zinc, aluminum and other metals. It's great for making lots of cheap castings for next to nothing but can be prone to instability over time, especially in an elevated temperature, corrosive environment. Brass, which is an alloy of copper and zinc, is very corrosion resistant to atmospheric, water and many salt-water conditions but bronze, with it's higher copper content, is more corrosion resistant than brass. Galvanic corrosion is probably a car cooling system's greatest enemy. Not only do you have to consider each material's physical characteristics but you have to reduce the electrical potential between the two metals. By using 2) electrochemicaly dissimilar metals (aluminum and brass), an electrically conductive path between the two metals (the chassis) and an electrolyte to allow the flow of metal ions (water coolant), you create a galvanic cell. The galvanic corrosion rate depends on the electrical potential between the two metals; zinc and aluminum (pot metal) being the most reactive, then iron (your cylinder block), chromium alloys - including chrome plated materials as less reactive, then brass, copper, nickel and stainless steel as the least reactive. Corrosion inhibitors (Bar's Leak) can be added to the system and will slow-down but not eliminate galvanic corrosion. To reduce galvanic corrosion it is recommended to use the same material (or materials with a similar electric potential) throughout out the cooling system and ensure other components (plumbing connectors) do not introduce a reactive metal into the system. I know, I know... blah-blah da blah, blah, da blah. --Don : G r a n i t e . C i t y . P e r f o r m a n c e : custom engineered competition components http://www.granitecityperformance.com/ From: Johann Grobler Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:21 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet) I spoke to my friend Joe and he informed me that the chrome housing that packed up was made from Pewter, that is why it rotted! He is casting new ones from brass! No more rust. Can also be chromed or polished to a high shine! - Original Message - From: Bob Haggard skylark1...@windstream.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet) I think that using distilled water with your antifreeze helps stop corrosion and maybe waterpump lubricant may help too. I had alway heard the same thing about the cheap chrome waternecks but I used one for years and when I removed my 283 and sold it, the thermostate housing still looked like new. The cast iron one that was on my Buick 350 looks like it was left in a bucket of salt water for years and water pumps will spring a leak too so cast iron has it's problems too. Just a thought but I agree and I would not use one again. Bob Haggard Larry Williams larrydwilli...@hughes.net wrote: Made in China!? I have the used the same cast iron housing since 94. John Nasta wrote: Just a little caveat emptor... When I built the engine for my El Camino 4 or 5 years ago, I put one of those shiny chrome thermostat housings on it. It rotted from the inside and developed a hole, which caused a bad leak. Today I bought the good old fashioned cast one and the walls of it are substantially thicker. I was lucky not to get stuck somewhere. I first noticed it when I was just moving the car from one side of the street to the other for parking regulations. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2227 - Release Date: 07/09/09 05:55:00 GCP_email_footer.gif
Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
I think that using distilled water with your antifreeze helps stop corrosion and maybe waterpump lubricant may help too. I had alway heard the same thing about the cheap chrome waternecks but I used one for years and when I removed my 283 and sold it, the thermostate housing still looked like new. The cast iron one that was on my Buick 350 looks like it was left in a bucket of salt water for years and water pumps will spring a leak too so cast iron has it's problems too. Just a thought but I agree and I would not use one again. Bob Haggard Larry Williams larrydwilli...@hughes.net wrote: Made in China!? I have the used the same cast iron housing since 94. John Nasta wrote: Just a little caveat emptor... When I built the engine for my El Camino 4 or 5 years ago, I put one of those shiny chrome thermostat housings on it. It rotted from the inside and developed a hole, which caused a bad leak. Today I bought the good old fashioned cast one and the walls of it are substantially thicker. I was lucky not to get stuck somewhere. I first noticed it when I was just moving the car from one side of the street to the other for parking regulations. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2227 - Release Date: 07/09/09 05:55:00
Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
Hullo all, Looks like we all ran along the same pathway! My Shiny housing cracked as a result of the corrosion! I have a friend that has a small brass foundry and he is making two castings for me! Great to have such a friend! The part is no longer obtainable locally. Just take note that one of the main reasons of Aluminum corrosion is Anti-Freeze! Cooling system must be flushed at least once a year! - Original Message - From: John Nasta 6...@johnnasta.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:32 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet) Just a little caveat emptor... When I built the engine for my El Camino 4 or 5 years ago, I put one of those shiny chrome thermostat housings on it. It rotted from the inside and developed a hole, which caused a bad leak. Today I bought the good old fashioned cast one and the walls of it are substantially thicker. I was lucky not to get stuck somewhere. I first noticed it when I was just moving the car from one side of the street to the other for parking regulations.
Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
Hi John, Mine still has the original cast housing since I could not find a new one that points to the passenger side of the radiator. If you find there is such a thing, please let me know. Dennis McGillis 1965 Malibu SS-350 (2005 Vortec crate engine) with factory A/C - Original Message - From: John Nasta 6...@johnnasta.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:32 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet) Just a little caveat emptor... When I built the engine for my El Camino 4 or 5 years ago, I put one of those shiny chrome thermostat housings on it. It rotted from the inside and developed a hole, which caused a bad leak. Today I bought the good old fashioned cast one and the walls of it are substantially thicker. I was lucky not to get stuck somewhere. I first noticed it when I was just moving the car from one side of the street to the other for parking regulations.
Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, dennis.mcgil...@mcgilliscompany.com wrote: Hi John, Mine still has the original cast housing since I could not find a new one that points to the passenger side of the radiator. If you find there is such a thing, please let me know. There are some that swivel IIRC. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer!
[Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
Just a little caveat emptor... When I built the engine for my El Camino 4 or 5 years ago, I put one of those shiny chrome thermostat housings on it. It rotted from the inside and developed a hole, which caused a bad leak. Today I bought the good old fashioned cast one and the walls of it are substantially thicker. I was lucky not to get stuck somewhere. I first noticed it when I was just moving the car from one side of the street to the other for parking regulations.
Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
Good thing yah caught it. My car had one on it when I bought it. It was fine for quite awhile. But started to rot basically and caused leaks. Plus the neck of it had lots of stress marks. I slapped a nice billet one on there and haven't had a problem since. -Original Message- From: John Nasta 6...@johnnasta.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thu, Jul 9, 2009 11:32 am Subject: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet) Just a little caveat emptor... When I built the engine for my El Camino 4 or 5 years ago, I put one of those shiny chrome thermostat housings on it. It rotted from the inside and developed a hole, which caused a bad leak. Today I bought the good old fashioned cast one and the walls of it are substantially thicker. I was lucky not to get stuck somewhere. I first noticed it when I was just moving the car from one side of the street to the other for parking regulations.? ?
Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
Went through the same experience myself. Not fun. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:55 PM, bad66chevelle...@aol.com wrote: Good thing yah caught it. My car had one on it when I bought it. It was fine for quite awhile. But started to rot basically and caused leaks. Plus the neck of it had lots of stress marks. I slapped a nice billet one on there and haven't had a problem since. -Original Message- From: John Nasta 6...@johnnasta.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thu, Jul 9, 2009 11:32 am Subject: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet) Just a little caveat emptor... When I built the engine for my El Camino 4 or 5 years ago, I put one of those shiny chrome thermostat housings on it. It rotted from the inside and developed a hole, which caused a bad leak. Today I bought the good old fashioned cast one and the walls of it are substantially thicker. I was lucky not to get stuck somewhere. I first noticed it when I was just moving the car from one side of the street to the other for parking regulations. -- Finding the best videos just got easier. Try the NEW Truveo.comhttp://www.truveo.com/?ncid=emlweustruv0001 . -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] chrome thermostat housing (water outlet)
Made in China!? I have the used the same cast iron housing since 94. John Nasta wrote: Just a little caveat emptor... When I built the engine for my El Camino 4 or 5 years ago, I put one of those shiny chrome thermostat housings on it. It rotted from the inside and developed a hole, which caused a bad leak. Today I bought the good old fashioned cast one and the walls of it are substantially thicker. I was lucky not to get stuck somewhere. I first noticed it when I was just moving the car from one side of the street to the other for parking regulations. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2227 - Release Date: 07/09/09 05:55:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.9/2228 - Release Date: 07/09/09 18:07:00
