Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2

2005-08-02 Thread Brian Knight
If you're running a quadrajet, there is a small seal at the filter in the 
carb. It is meant to keep fuel to the carb when not running. With age, it 
tends to let the gas flow back to the tank and you have to pump a lot to get 
fuel back to the engine.


 Brian


From: Ron Malespin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 22:24:26 -0600

That's interesting to hear about pumping the pedal.  My 67 Malibu has 
started doing the same thing in the last year after it sits for a few days. 
 It takes about 15 pumps on the gas to get it started.  I never have any 
running or restarting issues after that.  It starts right up with no 
pumping until it has sat for quite awhile.


Ron M.
  - Original Message -
  From: Dan McIntoshmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: The Chevelle Mailing Listmailto:Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
  Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 7:30 PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2


  Well guys,

  After school today, I removed the fuel pump from the motor, then took 
off the back plate so I could inspect the push rod.


  Everything with the pushrod looked good, and I stuck it in the hole and 
had the wife crank the motor while I pushed on it with my finger.  It moved 
back and forth following the cam lobe, about 1/2 of an inch.  Does this 
seem correct?


  While I was at it, I blew air through the tank to pump line, until I 
heard air bubbling in the gas tank. So I'm assuming that line is free of 
obstructions.


  Looking back, it used to take only 3 or 4 pumps of the pedal to get the 
car started, lately it has been taking 40-50 pumps, after sitting for a few 
days, that is.


  Also, nobody around here seems to stock the pump that I need, in fact, 
the young kid at Auto Zone pulled it up on his computer and then brought 
out an electric inline pump.  When I pointed to the box, and told him mine 
looked like the mechanical pump pictured, he said, let me ask this guy 
referring to a co-worker, who's response was, I think that's an EGR valve


  So I'm going to NAPA tomorrow in hopes of them having one, if they 
don't, I'll be on my way to Summit Racing for the Holley pump.





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Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:40 PM
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Dan,

Maybe your signature tag line came true.

- Hope things work out!

Krister




At 10:29 PM 7/31/2005, you wrote:

I have no clue what I screwed up this time.

Dan McIntosh
1963 Impala SS Convertible
HOP IT TILL IT BREAKS
^^ Looks like you did G.




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Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2

2005-08-02 Thread JJFlash67ss

Dan call Apache Auto Parts on Brookpark Rd. 


Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2

2005-08-02 Thread Clint Hooper
Brian is correct. I had this same problem on my Quadrajet.
Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message - 
From: Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 If you're running a quadrajet, there is a small seal at the filter in the
 carb. It is meant to keep fuel to the carb when not running. With age, it
 tends to let the gas flow back to the tank and you have to pump a lot to
get
 fuel back to the engine.

   Brian

 From: Ron Malespin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 That's interesting to hear about pumping the pedal.  My 67 Malibu has
 started doing the same thing in the last year after it sits for a few
days.
   It takes about 15 pumps on the gas to get it started.  I never have any
 running or restarting issues after that.  It starts right up with no
 pumping until it has sat for quite awhile.
 Ron M.





Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2

2005-08-02 Thread Shawn Price
Wouldn't a worn needle and seat cause this as well? I had issues with 
this years ago in my '56 Chevy pickup.

--
Shawn Price
Network Team Lead
Technology Solutions
Morrison Homes
404-427-8229
On Aug 2, 2005, at 12:46 PM, Clint Hooper wrote:


Brian is correct. I had this same problem on my Quadrajet.
Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From: Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]


If you're running a quadrajet, there is a small seal at the filter in 
the
carb. It is meant to keep fuel to the carb when not running. With 
age, it
tends to let the gas flow back to the tank and you have to pump a lot 
to

get

fuel back to the engine.

  Brian


From: Ron Malespin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That's interesting to hear about pumping the pedal.  My 67 Malibu has
started doing the same thing in the last year after it sits for a few

days.
 It takes about 15 pumps on the gas to get it started.  I never have 
any

running or restarting issues after that.  It starts right up with no
pumping until it has sat for quite awhile.
Ron M.










RE: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2

2005-08-02 Thread Brad Waller

I can see 3 or 4 pumps of the pedal in some cases, but I don't think I need
more than two in any case.  I don't think I could crank the car to get 15
pumps of the gas pedal without it starting long long before I could get that
far.

When the car has sat for a week or longer, it takes a few cranks and pumps
of the pedal, but after sitting overnight it never needs more than one pump,
and if sitting for a few hours it starts without a pump and in the first
revolution of the engine.

I would think a check of your fuel and spark systems would be in order if
you need more than 3 or 4 pumps of the gas pedal to get started in all but
the worst conditions.

When my fuel pump went out two years ago, the car started and drove just
fine, and then it flat out died in the street on the way home from work one
day.  The pushrod was fine.  Something internal on the pump failed, but
luckily no gas ended up in the oil pan.  You might want to change the oil
just to be safe, with starter fluid being used and the possibility of gas
getting into the oil if the pump failed internally.

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed   | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1
'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes  | 275/40/17 Kumho MX

 From: Ron Malespin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 That's interesting to hear about pumping the pedal.  My 67 Malibu has 
 started doing the same thing in the last year after it sits for a few
days. 
   It takes about 15 pumps on the gas to get it started.  I never have any 
 running or restarting issues after that.  It starts right up with no 
 pumping until it has sat for quite awhile.
 
- Original Message -
 From: Dan McIntoshmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Looking back, it used to take only 3 or 4 pumps of the pedal to get the

 car started, lately it has been taking 40-50 pumps, after sitting for a
few 
 days, that is.






Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2

2005-08-02 Thread Ron Malespin




Thanks for the discussion guys. This is a great site! I have an 
Edelbrock performer series carburetor. Out of curiosity I called the 
Edelbrock techs. He said that the fuel is most likely evaporating. I 
have a hard time believing that because it didn't do it when I first got the 
car. I have an inline filter with a movable interior that was dry after 
the car had sat for a couple days. Is it meant to hold the fuel in the 
line when the engine is off? If so it might just be a simple in line fuel 
filter replacement.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Shawn 
  Price 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:57 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or 
  carb part 2
  Wouldn't a worn needle and seat cause this as well? I had 
  issues with this years ago in my '56 Chevy pickup.--Shawn 
  PriceNetwork Team LeadTechnology SolutionsMorrison 
  Homes404-427-8229On Aug 2, 2005, at 12:46 PM, Clint Hooper 
  wrote: Brian is correct. I had this same problem on my 
  Quadrajet. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El 
  Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm 
  - Original Message - From: "Brian Knight" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  If you're running a quadrajet, there is a small seal at the filter in 
   the carb. It is meant to keep fuel to the carb when 
  not running. With  age, it tends to let the gas flow 
  back to the tank and you have to pump a lot  to 
  get fuel back to the engine. 
  Brian From: "Ron Malespin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  That's interesting to hear about pumping the pedal. My 67 Malibu 
  has started doing the same thing in the last year after it 
  sits for a few days. It takes about 15 pumps on 
  the gas to get it started. I never have  
  any running or restarting issues after that. It starts 
  right up with no pumping until it has sat for quite 
  awhile. Ron 
M.


RE: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2

2005-08-02 Thread Mike Wagner
Have you checked the carb float level ? 

Mike Wagner


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Waller
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:52 AM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2


I can see 3 or 4 pumps of the pedal in some cases, but I don't think I
need
more than two in any case.  I don't think I could crank the car to get
15
pumps of the gas pedal without it starting long long before I could get
that
far.

When the car has sat for a week or longer, it takes a few cranks and
pumps
of the pedal, but after sitting overnight it never needs more than one
pump,
and if sitting for a few hours it starts without a pump and in the first
revolution of the engine.

I would think a check of your fuel and spark systems would be in order
if
you need more than 3 or 4 pumps of the gas pedal to get started in all
but
the worst conditions.

When my fuel pump went out two years ago, the car started and drove just
fine, and then it flat out died in the street on the way home from work
one
day.  The pushrod was fine.  Something internal on the pump failed, but
luckily no gas ended up in the oil pan.  You might want to change the
oil
just to be safe, with starter fluid being used and the possibility of
gas
getting into the oil if the pump failed internally.

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed   | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1
'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes  | 275/40/17 Kumho
MX

 From: Ron Malespin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 That's interesting to hear about pumping the pedal.  My 67 Malibu has 
 started doing the same thing in the last year after it sits for a few
days. 
   It takes about 15 pumps on the gas to get it started.  I never have
any 
 running or restarting issues after that.  It starts right up with no 
 pumping until it has sat for quite awhile.
 
- Original Message -
 From: Dan McIntoshmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Looking back, it used to take only 3 or 4 pumps of the pedal to get
the

 car started, lately it has been taking 40-50 pumps, after sitting for
a
few 
 days, that is.










RE: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2

2005-08-02 Thread John Nasta
Thanks Mike. You just reminded me about what is (or can be) the secret trick
for this. Sometimes the floats get hung up and you just have to rap the side
of the carb with a couple of good shots. This is particularly common with a
brand new carb that may have been turned upside down at some point during
shipping. You can always open up the carb as well to see if the floats are
moving freely.

HTH,
John Nasta



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Wagner
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 4:21 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2

Have you checked the carb float level ?

Mike Wagner







Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb?

2005-08-01 Thread Bill Bradley



dan
i'd pull the fuel pump and make sure there isnt a 
problem with the pump push rod, it may have broken
Bill Bradley67 MalibuEdmond Oklahomahttp://www.cardomain.com/ride/1649723

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dan 
  McIntosh 
  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net ; impala 
  list ; Curt Ballsrud 
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 8:31 PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or 
  carb?
  
  Hi all, today I was out driving the 63, and it 
  started feeling like it had no power, bogging out and stuff, until it finally 
  died on the side of the road.
  I had the wife bring me starting fluid, at which 
  point it ran until the fluid dissipated. I took the line off the carb, removed 
  the filter from the carb, and cranked the motor, no fuel shot out. 
  
  So I sent her to get some gas, and dumped 5 
  gallons into the car (dunno the status of the gauge, it was reading half, and 
  it seemed to work before)
  Shot it with the starting fluid, and it cranked 
  right over.
  I drove it for about 2 minutes, then it did it 
  again. Got out, sprayed the fluid, and started it up, I'd go to rev it 
  up, it would die.
  Finally, it started back up, and ran the 35 
  seconds it took to get to my driveway. 
  Also, there's a strange "knocking" noise from the 
  motor that wasn't there before, not as loud as a rod knock, but not as quiet 
  as a lifter tick. I don't know if this is coincidental or 
  not.
  Any ideas? 
  
  Thank you.
  
  Dan McIntosh1963 Impala SS 
  ConvertibleRollerz Only C.C.http://www.lowriderimpala.com


Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb?

2005-08-01 Thread Dan McIntosh



Thanks guys, I'll pull the pump tomorrow after work 
and see what I find.

Dan McIntosh1963 Impala SS Convertible"HOP 
IT TILL IT BREAKS"Street Metal Fabricationshttp://www.lowriderimpala.com


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bill Bradley 
  
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:01 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or 
  carb?
  
  dan
  i'd pull the fuel pump and make sure there isnt a 
  problem with the pump push rod, it may have broken
  Bill Bradley67 MalibuEdmond Oklahomahttp://www.cardomain.com/ride/1649723
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Dan 
McIntosh 
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net ; 
impala 
list ; Curt Ballsrud 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 8:31 
PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or 
carb?

Hi all, today I was out driving the 63, and it 
started feeling like it had no power, bogging out and stuff, until it 
finally died on the side of the road.
I had the wife bring me starting fluid, at 
which point it ran until the fluid dissipated. I took the line off the carb, 
removed the filter from the carb, and cranked the motor, no fuel shot out. 

So I sent her to get some gas, and dumped 5 
gallons into the car (dunno the status of the gauge, it was reading half, 
and it seemed to work before)
Shot it with the starting fluid, and it cranked 
right over.
I drove it for about 2 minutes, then it did it 
again. Got out, sprayed the fluid, and started it up, I'd go to rev it 
up, it would die.
Finally, it started back up, and ran the 35 
seconds it took to get to my driveway. 
Also, there's a strange "knocking" noise from 
the motor that wasn't there before, not as loud as a rod knock, but not as 
quiet as a lifter tick. I don't know if this is coincidental or 
not.
Any ideas? 

Thank you.

Dan McIntosh1963 Impala SS 
ConvertibleRollerz Only C.C.http://www.lowriderimpala.com


Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb?

2005-08-01 Thread Matt Wettig




Dan,
 I would say your fuel 
pump is bad. Check the fuel pump rod also. 

 
Matt

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dan 
  McIntosh 
  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net ; impala 
  list ; Curt Ballsrud 
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 8:31 PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or 
  carb?
  
  Hi all, today I was out driving the 63, and it 
  started feeling like it had no power, bogging out and stuff, until it finally 
  died on the side of the road.
  I had the wife bring me starting fluid, at which 
  point it ran until the fluid dissipated. I took the line off the carb, removed 
  the filter from the carb, and cranked the motor, no fuel shot out. 
  
  So I sent her to get some gas, and dumped 5 
  gallons into the car (dunno the status of the gauge, it was reading half, and 
  it seemed to work before)
  Shot it with the starting fluid, and it cranked 
  right over.
  I drove it for about 2 minutes, then it did it 
  again. Got out, sprayed the fluid, and started it up, I'd go to rev it 
  up, it would die.
  Finally, it started back up, and ran the 35 
  seconds it took to get to my driveway. 
  Also, there's a strange "knocking" noise from the 
  motor that wasn't there before, not as loud as a rod knock, but not as quiet 
  as a lifter tick. I don't know if this is coincidental or 
  not.
  Any ideas? 
  
  Thank you.
  
  Dan McIntosh1963 Impala SS 
  ConvertibleRollerz Only C.C.http://www.lowriderimpala.com
  
  

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Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb?

2005-08-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Any chance you lost oil pressure from being in weird angles? I know that can happen with 4X4's going on steep angles. In any case, I have seen these competitions where they try to out "hop" each other and totally destroy the vehicle before it's over. Seems counter productive to me. I'd say be prepared for a whole lot more of this kind of troubles, and maybe worse. Break an A-frame or weaken some steering linkage and things could get interesting on the freeway.




- Original Message - 
From: 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: 7/31/2005 11:26:06 PM 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb?

The knocking noise was going on when I started it up today, before the stalling problem, almost sounds like it's from the carb.
Remember, the front of my car bounces 30-40 inches in the air, so strange thing could happen.
Now that I think about it, I was hopping it hard last time I drove it, and when I restarted it, it sounded funny, but I disregarded it thinking maybe I cracked an exhaust manifold or something, never checked it out though.
I only had to drive it a few seconds to get it home after the hopping last time.
I have no clue what I screwed up this time.

Dan McIntosh1963 Impala SS Convertible"HOP IT TILL IT BREAKS"Street Metal Fabricationshttp://www.lowriderimpala.com

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb?
Hi Dan, sounds like you've got a fuel pump that's N.G. The knocking noise is could be fromtoo much starting fluid. That stuff can ruin an engine. I hope, for your sake, that is not the case here. Good Luck, Jimmie 

Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb?

2005-08-01 Thread Krister Meister




Dan,

Maybe your signature tag line came true.

- Hope things work out!

Krister




At 10:29 PM 7/31/2005, you wrote:

I have no clue what I screwed up this time.

Dan McIntosh
1963 Impala SS Convertible
HOP IT TILL IT BREAKS
^^ Looks like you did G.





[Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2

2005-08-01 Thread Dan McIntosh



Well guys, 

After school today, I removed the fuel pump from 
the motor, then took off the back plate so I could inspect the push 
rod.

Everything with the pushrod looked good, and I 
stuck it in the hole and had the wife crank the motor while I pushed on it with 
my finger. It moved back and forth following the cam lobe, about 1/2 of an 
inch. Does this seem correct?

While I was at it, I blew air through the "tank to 
pump" line, until I heard air bubbling in the gas tank. So I'm assuming that 
line is free of obstructions.

Looking back, it used to take only 3 or 4 pumps of 
the pedal to get the car started, lately it has been taking 40-50 pumps, after 
sitting for a few days, that is.

Also, nobody around here seems to stock the pump 
that I need, in fact, the young kid at Auto Zone pulled it up on his computer 
and then brought out an electric inline pump. When I pointed to the box, 
and told him mine looked like the mechanical pump pictured, he said, "let me ask 
this guy" referring to a co-worker, who's response was, "I think that's an EGR 
valve"

So I'm going to NAPA tomorrow in hopes of them 
having one, if they don't, I'll be on my way to Summit Racing for the Holley 
pump.





  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Krister Meister 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Cc: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:40 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or 
  carb?
  Dan,Maybe your signature tag line came 
  true.- Hope things work out!KristerAt 
  10:29 PM 7/31/2005, you wrote:I have no clue what I screwed up this 
  time.Dan McIntosh1963 Impala SS Convertible"HOP IT TILL IT 
  BREAKS""^^" Looks like you did 
G.


Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2

2005-08-01 Thread Zieg72



Yep, the classic signs of a bad fuel pump 
alright. The knocking you heard I bet was carbon that was knocked loose 
using starter fluid. I had a similar noise on my 63 after using starter 
fluid, the knock went away. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dan 
  McIntosh 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:30 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or 
  carb part 2
  
  Well guys, 
  
  After school today, I removed the fuel pump from 
  the motor, then took off the back plate so I could inspect the push 
  rod.
  
  Everything with the pushrod looked good, and I 
  stuck it in the hole and had the wife crank the motor while I pushed on it 
  with my finger. It moved back and forth following the cam lobe, about 
  1/2 of an inch. Does this seem correct?
  
  While I was at it, I blew air through the "tank 
  to pump" line, until I heard air bubbling in the gas tank. So I'm assuming 
  that line is free of obstructions.
  
  Looking back, it used to take only 3 or 4 pumps 
  of the pedal to get the car started, lately it has been taking 40-50 pumps, 
  after sitting for a few days, that is.
  
  Also, nobody around here seems to stock the pump 
  that I need, in fact, the young kid at Auto Zone pulled it up on his computer 
  and then brought out an electric inline pump. When I pointed to the box, 
  and told him mine looked like the mechanical pump pictured, he said, "let me 
  ask this guy" referring to a co-worker, who's response was, "I think that's an 
  EGR valve"
  
  So I'm going to NAPA tomorrow in hopes of them 
  having one, if they don't, I'll be on my way to Summit Racing for the Holley 
  pump.
  
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Krister Meister 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 

Cc: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net ; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:40 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump 
or carb?
Dan,Maybe your signature tag line 
came true.- Hope things work 
out!KristerAt 10:29 PM 7/31/2005, you 
wrote:I have no clue what I screwed up this time.Dan 
McIntosh1963 Impala SS Convertible"HOP IT TILL IT 
BREAKS""^^" Looks like you did 
  G.
  
  

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Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2

2005-08-01 Thread Matt Wettig



I would suggest getting the Holley 
pump. Better quality in my opinion. Just my 2 cents.

 
Matt

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dan 
  McIntosh 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:30 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or 
  carb part 2
  
  Well guys, 
  
  After school today, I removed the fuel pump from 
  the motor, then took off the back plate so I could inspect the push 
  rod.
  
  Everything with the pushrod looked good, and I 
  stuck it in the hole and had the wife crank the motor while I pushed on it 
  with my finger. It moved back and forth following the cam lobe, about 
  1/2 of an inch. Does this seem correct?
  
  While I was at it, I blew air through the "tank 
  to pump" line, until I heard air bubbling in the gas tank. So I'm assuming 
  that line is free of obstructions.
  
  Looking back, it used to take only 3 or 4 pumps 
  of the pedal to get the car started, lately it has been taking 40-50 pumps, 
  after sitting for a few days, that is.
  
  Also, nobody around here seems to stock the pump 
  that I need, in fact, the young kid at Auto Zone pulled it up on his computer 
  and then brought out an electric inline pump. When I pointed to the box, 
  and told him mine looked like the mechanical pump pictured, he said, "let me 
  ask this guy" referring to a co-worker, who's response was, "I think that's an 
  EGR valve"
  
  So I'm going to NAPA tomorrow in hopes of them 
  having one, if they don't, I'll be on my way to Summit Racing for the Holley 
  pump.
  
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Krister Meister 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 

Cc: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net ; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:40 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump 
or carb?
Dan,Maybe your signature tag line 
came true.- Hope things work 
out!KristerAt 10:29 PM 7/31/2005, you 
wrote:I have no clue what I screwed up this time.Dan 
McIntosh1963 Impala SS Convertible"HOP IT TILL IT 
BREAKS""^^" Looks like you did 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb part 2

2005-08-01 Thread Ron Malespin




That’s interesting to hear about pumping the pedal. My 67 Malibu has 
started doing the same thing in the last yearafter it sits for a few 
days. It takes about 15 pumps on the gas to get it started. I never 
have any running or restarting issues after that. It starts right up with 
no pumping until it has sat for quite awhile.

Ron M.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan McIntosh 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 7:30 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or 
  carb part 2
  
  Well guys, 
  
  After school today, I removed the fuel pump from 
  the motor, then took off the back plate so I could inspect the push 
  rod.
  
  Everything with the pushrod looked good, and I 
  stuck it in the hole and had the wife crank the motor while I pushed on it 
  with my finger. It moved back and forth following the cam lobe, about 
  1/2 of an inch. Does this seem correct?
  
  While I was at it, I blew air through the "tank 
  to pump" line, until I heard air bubbling in the gas tank. So I'm assuming 
  that line is free of obstructions.
  
  Looking back, it used to take only 3 or 4 pumps 
  of the pedal to get the car started, lately it has been taking 40-50 pumps, 
  after sitting for a few days, that is.
  
  Also, nobody around here seems to stock the pump 
  that I need, in fact, the young kid at Auto Zone pulled it up on his computer 
  and then brought out an electric inline pump. When I pointed to the box, 
  and told him mine looked like the mechanical pump pictured, he said, "let me 
  ask this guy" referring to a co-worker, who's response was, "I think that's an 
  EGR valve"
  
  So I'm going to NAPA tomorrow in hopes of them 
  having one, if they don't, I'll be on my way to Summit Racing for the Holley 
  pump.
  
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Krister Meister 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 

Cc: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net ; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:40 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump 
or carb?
Dan,Maybe your signature tag line 
came true.- Hope things work 
out!KristerAt 10:29 PM 7/31/2005, you 
wrote:I have no clue what I screwed up this time.Dan 
McIntosh1963 Impala SS Convertible"HOP IT TILL IT 
BREAKS""^^" Looks like you did 
  G.


[Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb?

2005-07-31 Thread Dan McIntosh



Hi all, today I was out driving the 63, and it 
started feeling like it had no power, bogging out and stuff, until it finally 
died on the side of the road.
I had the wife bring me starting fluid, at which 
point it ran until the fluid dissipated. I took the line off the carb, removed 
the filter from the carb, and cranked the motor, no fuel shot out. 
So I sent her to get some gas, and dumped 5 gallons 
into the car (dunno the status of the gauge, it was reading half, and it seemed 
to work before)
Shot it with the starting fluid, and it cranked 
right over.
I drove it for about 2 minutes, then it did it 
again. Got out, sprayed the fluid, and started it up, I'd go to rev it up, 
it would die.
Finally, it started back up, and ran the 35 seconds 
it took to get to my driveway. 
Also, there's a strange "knocking" noise from the 
motor that wasn't there before, not as loud as a rod knock, but not as quiet as 
a lifter tick. I don't know if this is coincidental or not.
Any ideas? 

Thank you.

Dan McIntosh1963 Impala SS 
ConvertibleRollerz Only C.C.http://www.lowriderimpala.com


Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb?

2005-07-31 Thread JEBSJUNGLE
Hi Dan, sounds like you've got a fuel pump that's N.G. The knocking noise is could be from
too much starting fluid. That stuff can ruin an engine. I hope, for your sake, that is not the case here.
 Good Luck,
 Jimmie


Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb?

2005-07-31 Thread Dan McIntosh



The knocking noise was going on when I started it 
up today, before the stalling problem, almost sounds like it's from the 
carb.
Remember, the front of my car bounces 30-40 inches 
in the air, so strange thing could happen.
Now that I think about it, I was hopping it hard 
last time I drove it, and when I restarted it, it sounded funny, but I 
disregarded it thinking maybe I cracked an exhaust manifold or something, never 
checked it out though.
I only had to drive it a few seconds to get it home 
after the hopping last time.
I have no clue what I screwed up this 
time.

Dan McIntosh1963 Impala SS Convertible"HOP 
IT TILL IT BREAKS"Street Metal Fabricationshttp://www.lowriderimpala.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 9:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or 
  carb?
  Hi Dan, sounds like you've got a fuel pump 
  that's N.G. The knocking noise is could be fromtoo much starting fluid. 
  That stuff can ruin an engine. I hope, for your sake, that is not the case 
  here. 
  Good 
  Luck, 
  Jimmie 


Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb?

2005-07-31 Thread Dave Corgill


At 10:29 PM 7/31/2005, you wrote:

I have no clue what I screwed up
this time.

Dan McIntosh
1963 Impala SS Convertible
HOP IT TILL IT BREAKS
^^ Looks like you did G.



Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb?

2005-07-31 Thread Ron Malespin




It sounds like a timing belt/chain issue. I could be wrong but it 
sounds like all of the symptoms.

Ron

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan McIntosh 
  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net ; impala list ; Curt Ballsrud 
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:31 PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or 
  carb?
  
  Hi all, today I was out driving the 63, and it 
  started feeling like it had no power, bogging out and stuff, until it finally 
  died on the side of the road.
  I had the wife bring me starting fluid, at which 
  point it ran until the fluid dissipated. I took the line off the carb, removed 
  the filter from the carb, and cranked the motor, no fuel shot out. 
  
  So I sent her to get some gas, and dumped 5 
  gallons into the car (dunno the status of the gauge, it was reading half, and 
  it seemed to work before)
  Shot it with the starting fluid, and it cranked 
  right over.
  I drove it for about 2 minutes, then it did it 
  again. Got out, sprayed the fluid, and started it up, I'd go to rev it 
  up, it would die.
  Finally, it started back up, and ran the 35 
  seconds it took to get to my driveway. 
  Also, there's a strange "knocking" noise from the 
  motor that wasn't there before, not as loud as a rod knock, but not as quiet 
  as a lifter tick. I don't know if this is coincidental or 
  not.
  Any ideas? 
  
  Thank you.
  
  Dan McIntosh1963 Impala SS 
  ConvertibleRollerz Only C.C.http://www.lowriderimpala.com


RE: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb?

2005-07-31 Thread Dale








Timing chain wouldnt run with
just fuel in the carb then quit when fuel ran out, itd either run very
rough or not at all. Dont know if someone suggested fuel pump and/or
fuel pump rod. No pressure from the pump and Ive had fuel pump rods
break making a hell of a noise.





Dale McIntosh

67 El Camino

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ron Malespin
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 11:29
PM
To: The
 Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel
pump or carb?









It sounds like a
timing belt/chain issue. I could be wrong but it sounds like all of the
symptoms.











Ron







- Original Message - 





From: Dan McIntosh 





To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net ; impala
list ; Curt Ballsrud 





Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:31 PM





Subject: [Chevelle-list] fuel pump or carb?











Hi all, today I was out driving the 63,
and it started feeling like it had no power, bogging out and stuff, until it
finally died on the side of the road.





I had the wife bring me starting fluid,
at which point it ran until the fluid dissipated. I took the line off the carb,
removed the filter from the carb, and cranked the motor, no fuel shot out. 





So I sent her to get some gas, and dumped
5 gallons into the car (dunno the status of the gauge, it was reading half, and
it seemed to work before)





Shot it with the starting fluid, and it
cranked right over.





I drove it for about 2 minutes, then it
did it again. Got out, sprayed the fluid, and started it up, I'd go to
rev it up, it would die.





Finally, it started back up, and ran the
35 seconds it took to get to my driveway. 





Also, there's a strange
knocking noise from the motor that wasn't there before, not as loud
as a rod knock, but not as quiet as a lifter tick. I don't know if this
is coincidental or not.





Any ideas? 











Thank you.











Dan McIntosh
1963 Impala SS Convertible
Rollerz Only C.C.
http://www.lowriderimpala.com