Re: [Chevelle-list] tuning

2005-05-04 Thread Scott Somers
I got excited about gas cost until I did some math.  If gas went from 1.80 
to 2.20 per gallon and I got only, for easy math, 10mpg, that's only $.04 
increase per mile.  On a 5,000 mile trip, which is some serious saddle time 
for a 10mpg rig, that's an extra $200.  Money's money but only an extra $200 
on a run like that would not make me panic too bad.  Lot of ways to make 
that up..don't feed the spouse or kids at a few stops.  Not talking 
about maintaining a happy home life, just saving money.  Or only take roads 
that go downhill.  Don't forget drafting ( aka tailgating if done under 100 
or so mph )


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I have heard the Vortec V-6 will fit. Or perhaps take
out a second mortgage. I couldn't help it. lol
mike
--- Dennis Kiernan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is there such a thing as tuning a car for maximum
mpg by maybe
sacrificing elsewhere such as power or acceleration?
My gas-eater
will be going on a 5000 mile journey this summer and
I'm trying to
do what I can to avoid seriously depleting the
world's oil supplies
(not to mention my wallet)..

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Re: [Chevelle-list] tuning

2005-05-04 Thread mike f
I have heard the Vortec V-6 will fit. Or perhaps take
out a second mortgage. I couldn't help it. lol 
mike
--- Dennis Kiernan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there such a thing as tuning a car for maximum
> mpg by maybe
> sacrificing elsewhere such as power or acceleration?
> My gas-eater
> will be going on a 5000 mile journey this summer and
> I'm trying to
> do what I can to avoid seriously depleting the
> world's oil supplies
> (not to mention my wallet)..
> 
> 

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[Chevelle-list] tuning

2005-05-02 Thread Dennis Kiernan
Is there such a thing as tuning a car for maximum mpg by maybe
sacrificing elsewhere such as power or acceleration? My gas-eater
will be going on a 5000 mile journey this summer and I'm trying to
do what I can to avoid seriously depleting the world's oil supplies
(not to mention my wallet)..



Re: [Chevelle-List] tuning tips anyone?

2002-07-09 Thread Robert Belz

Hey Rob,
Thanks for your input.  I like the goin' fishin' analogy.  Thanks for the
tip on jetting.  The Holley manual for that carb suggests jetting down 1
step for every 2000 ft. but it sounds like that might not be the way to go.
If I do try that and get a stumble I'll know what's going on.  Looks like I
just need to play.  Wish I was rich, the chassis dyno I mentioned in earlier
posts can be rented for $600 per day.  That would be a great way to quantify
any changes besides seat of the pants.
Thanks again,
Bob Belz 71 SS454

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From: "Rob Thorburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] tuning tips anyone?


> Hi Bob:
>
> Even if someone had a BB with all of those parts, it would be a different
> setup because of the tranny, the ring and pinion gear, and so on.
> 1.  Get in that: I'm Goin' fishin' mood, you know: I'm going to waste away
> the whole day, but I'm not a bum, because I'm fishin'.
> 2.  Find some isolated area, away from residential, where you can tear off
a
> couple of gears.  I have a freeway on-ramp.
> 3.  Change the total timing in two degree increments.  Start at 30
degrees,
> run up the ramp, then again at 32, and so on.  Jot down your impression of
> each timing setting.  As you get away from the ideal setting it should
> become obvious.
> 4. The same idea with the jetting.  Jump two jets at a time, starting with
> the stock jetting.  Leaning a Holley, most often, causes undesireable
> effects, such as bog or stumble.  Even for your elevation, never
> underestimate a Big block's love of fuel!  A stumble is a "too lean"
> condition, one hundred percent of the time.  I will go out on a limb and
say
> that you cannot make a engine fall on its face with too much fuel.  A too
> rich condition will cause a loss of chrisp acceleration.  You will sense
> that the engine is cleaning out through that too rich part.  The most
common
> over rich error is over modifying the accelerator pump, most all other
> errors are too lean.  If you have a big cam, and/or headers, the engine
will
> want more fuel than what Holley jetted for.
>
> Have fun;
> Rob '67 Malibu
> '67 El Camino (still in a basket)
>
>
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> From: "Robert Belz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 7:18 PM
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] tuning tips anyone?
>
>
> > Anyone care to share their tuning specs if they are using a Holley 770,
> > Performer RPM intake and MSD distributor (on a big block)? So far I have
> > tried 32 to 38 degrees total timing, left the blue bushing in the
> > distributor and changed the springs to the light blue to get all advance
> in
> > by 3000 RPM.  Left the carb jetting stock (probably could lean it out
some
> > as I'm at 4800 ft.)  Haven't seen much in the way in performance
increases
> > so far.
> > Thanks,
> > Bob Belz
> >
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Re: [Chevelle-List] tuning tips anyone?

2002-07-09 Thread Rob Thorburn

Hi Bob:

Even if someone had a BB with all of those parts, it would be a different
setup because of the tranny, the ring and pinion gear, and so on.
1.  Get in that: I'm Goin' fishin' mood, you know: I'm going to waste away
the whole day, but I'm not a bum, because I'm fishin'.
2.  Find some isolated area, away from residential, where you can tear off a
couple of gears.  I have a freeway on-ramp.
3.  Change the total timing in two degree increments.  Start at 30 degrees,
run up the ramp, then again at 32, and so on.  Jot down your impression of
each timing setting.  As you get away from the ideal setting it should
become obvious.
4. The same idea with the jetting.  Jump two jets at a time, starting with
the stock jetting.  Leaning a Holley, most often, causes undesireable
effects, such as bog or stumble.  Even for your elevation, never
underestimate a Big block's love of fuel!  A stumble is a "too lean"
condition, one hundred percent of the time.  I will go out on a limb and say
that you cannot make a engine fall on its face with too much fuel.  A too
rich condition will cause a loss of chrisp acceleration.  You will sense
that the engine is cleaning out through that too rich part.  The most common
over rich error is over modifying the accelerator pump, most all other
errors are too lean.  If you have a big cam, and/or headers, the engine will
want more fuel than what Holley jetted for.

Have fun;
Rob '67 Malibu
'67 El Camino (still in a basket)


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From: "Robert Belz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 7:18 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-List] tuning tips anyone?


> Anyone care to share their tuning specs if they are using a Holley 770,
> Performer RPM intake and MSD distributor (on a big block)? So far I have
> tried 32 to 38 degrees total timing, left the blue bushing in the
> distributor and changed the springs to the light blue to get all advance
in
> by 3000 RPM.  Left the carb jetting stock (probably could lean it out some
> as I'm at 4800 ft.)  Haven't seen much in the way in performance increases
> so far.
> Thanks,
> Bob Belz
>
>
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[Chevelle-List] tuning tips anyone?

2002-07-07 Thread Robert Belz

Anyone care to share their tuning specs if they are using a Holley 770,
Performer RPM intake and MSD distributor (on a big block)? So far I have
tried 32 to 38 degrees total timing, left the blue bushing in the
distributor and changed the springs to the light blue to get all advance in
by 3000 RPM.  Left the carb jetting stock (probably could lean it out some
as I'm at 4800 ft.)  Haven't seen much in the way in performance increases
so far.
Thanks,
Bob Belz


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