Re: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List The reason that I ran a relay on my 67 ElCamino is that the wires that power the ign terminal on the fuze block are still quite small and the current has to run through a great distance ignition switch circuit and interior harness that has small wires too. By runnung a relay you can have a very short power wire and use a big a wire as you can find. I ran my #8 wire from the positive cable on the starter This helps create cleaner and higher coil discharge voltage that can add to lower et's. Using a relay is not to ease installation - it adds performance. Eric... - Original Message - From: RKoletzke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 26, 2001 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List pull the batt wire from the alternator see if engine stops have seen bad alternator's do this, they still charge but cant shut engine off - Original Message - From: Spencer, Darrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:24 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List You didn't say what the load was for the relay, only the supply. However, I would expect that this relay might be providing voltage to the starter solenoid. This is a common fix for the hot soak problem many Chevy starters suffer from. If so, then I think your ignition switch is definitely suspect for the run-on problem. But first, verify for sure that this relay is in line with the starter solenoid. If it's still in line with the coil, get rid of it, see if the problem persists, and if so look to the ignition switch as your likely problem. Darrell Spencer Cave Creek, AZ '70 Malibu '66 El Camino -Original Message- From: DeCicco, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 November, 2001 12:58 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem I ran a #10 wire from the battery to a Bosch Relay that was mounted on the firewall. The relay is energized in the key on position. Not sure which wire this is, but the car is at a body shop and I can't get at it right now. Don DeCicco wrote: I have a 71 chevelle 454 that I restored over the past year. It is at the body shop being painted as I wrire this. On occasion the engine will not shut off with the key. I have to pull the + wire to the HEI dist. coming from the relay on the firewall. Any help would be appreciated. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List On my 67 El Camino I have a 30A bocsh relay powered by the purple-run and yellow-start original ignition wires. It works just fine! If the yellow wire from the starter was connected to the wrong terminal on the solenoid I think that that could cause a problem. Check your solenoid. I have seen some GM starters that can bolt on but don't have the right solenoid for older cars.(The yellow wire brings power to the Ignition while the car is cranking.-If it was powered all the time than the relay would never shut off) Eric... - Original Message - From: Spencer, Darrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 26, 2001 3:24 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List You didn't say what the load was for the relay, only the supply. However, I would expect that this relay might be providing voltage to the starter solenoid. This is a common fix for the hot soak problem many Chevy starters suffer from. If so, then I think your ignition switch is definitely suspect for the run-on problem. But first, verify for sure that this relay is in line with the starter solenoid. If it's still in line with the coil, get rid of it, see if the problem persists, and if so look to the ignition switch as your likely problem. Darrell Spencer Cave Creek, AZ '70 Malibu '66 El Camino -Original Message- From: DeCicco, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 November, 2001 12:58 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem I ran a #10 wire from the battery to a Bosch Relay that was mounted on the firewall. The relay is energized in the key on position. Not sure which wire this is, but the car is at a body shop and I can't get at it right now. Don DeCicco wrote: I have a 71 chevelle 454 that I restored over the past year. It is at the body shop being painted as I wrire this. On occasion the engine will not shut off with the key. I have to pull the + wire to the HEI dist. coming from the relay on the firewall. Any help would be appreciated. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I ran a #10 wire from the battery to a Bosch Relay that was mounted on the firewall. The relay is energized in the key on position. Not sure which wire this is, but the car is at a body shop and I can't get at it right now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Don, could you please describe the way your HEI's wired? Since your '71 didn't come with it from the factory someone obviously added it later. When I convert from points to HEI (or any other ignition requiring 12 volts) I like to run a 10-gauge wire straight from the IGN tap in the fuse block, if it's available. Brad Don DeCicco wrote: I have a 71 chevelle 454 that I restored over the past year. It is at the body shop being painted as I wrire this. On occasion the engine will not shut off with the key. I have to pull the + wire to the HEI dist. coming from the relay on the firewall. Any help would be appreciated. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List You didn't say what the load was for the relay, only the supply. However, I would expect that this relay might be providing voltage to the starter solenoid. This is a common fix for the hot soak problem many Chevy starters suffer from. If so, then I think your ignition switch is definitely suspect for the run-on problem. But first, verify for sure that this relay is in line with the starter solenoid. If it's still in line with the coil, get rid of it, see if the problem persists, and if so look to the ignition switch as your likely problem. Darrell Spencer Cave Creek, AZ '70 Malibu '66 El Camino -Original Message- From: DeCicco, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 November, 2001 12:58 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem I ran a #10 wire from the battery to a Bosch Relay that was mounted on the firewall. The relay is energized in the key on position. Not sure which wire this is, but the car is at a body shop and I can't get at it right now. Don DeCicco wrote: I have a 71 chevelle 454 that I restored over the past year. It is at the body shop being painted as I wrire this. On occasion the engine will not shut off with the key. I have to pull the + wire to the HEI dist. coming from the relay on the firewall. Any help would be appreciated. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Interesting. Does this relay do anything else other than feed the coil? I would start by seeing if there's any current going through the coil lead with the ignition off, then with the ignition on, and then with the ignition off again. Also, consider these 3 tests with the indicator placed between the relay and its source of power; this will help determine if the problem is with the relay or some element located before it in the circuit. Brad Don DeCicco relayed: I ran a #10 wire from the battery to a Bosch Relay that was mounted on the firewall. The relay is energized in the key on position. Not sure which wire this is, but the car is at a body shop and I can't get at it right now. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List pull the batt wire from the alternator see if engine stops have seen bad alternator's do this, they still charge but cant shut engine off - Original Message - From: Spencer, Darrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:24 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List You didn't say what the load was for the relay, only the supply. However, I would expect that this relay might be providing voltage to the starter solenoid. This is a common fix for the hot soak problem many Chevy starters suffer from. If so, then I think your ignition switch is definitely suspect for the run-on problem. But first, verify for sure that this relay is in line with the starter solenoid. If it's still in line with the coil, get rid of it, see if the problem persists, and if so look to the ignition switch as your likely problem. Darrell Spencer Cave Creek, AZ '70 Malibu '66 El Camino -Original Message- From: DeCicco, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 November, 2001 12:58 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem I ran a #10 wire from the battery to a Bosch Relay that was mounted on the firewall. The relay is energized in the key on position. Not sure which wire this is, but the car is at a body shop and I can't get at it right now. Don DeCicco wrote: I have a 71 chevelle 454 that I restored over the past year. It is at the body shop being painted as I wrire this. On occasion the engine will not shut off with the key. I have to pull the + wire to the HEI dist. coming from the relay on the firewall. Any help would be appreciated. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Thanks! -Original Message- From: Spencer, Darrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 3:25 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List You didn't say what the load was for the relay, only the supply. However, I would expect that this relay might be providing voltage to the starter solenoid. This is a common fix for the hot soak problem many Chevy starters suffer from. If so, then I think your ignition switch is definitely suspect for the run-on problem. But first, verify for sure that this relay is in line with the starter solenoid. If it's still in line with the coil, get rid of it, see if the problem persists, and if so look to the ignition switch as your likely problem. Darrell Spencer Cave Creek, AZ '70 Malibu '66 El Camino -Original Message- From: DeCicco, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 November, 2001 12:58 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 71 chevelle HEI problem I ran a #10 wire from the battery to a Bosch Relay that was mounted on the firewall. The relay is energized in the key on position. Not sure which wire this is, but the car is at a body shop and I can't get at it right now. Don DeCicco wrote: I have a 71 chevelle 454 that I restored over the past year. It is at the body shop being painted as I wrire this. On occasion the engine will not shut off with the key. I have to pull the + wire to the HEI dist. coming from the relay on the firewall. Any help would be appreciated. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
