Re: [Chevelle-list] Ignition Woes

2007-02-19 Thread Herb Lumpp
Hmm.  Thanks, I'll check it out.

Herb 

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Herb, Have run into that problem several times, replacing the alternator was
the fix. Take yours and have it tested, it is a diode problem.

D.R. Jones




Re: [Chevelle-list] Ignition Woes

2007-02-19 Thread mike f
That would be my guess. 

mike



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 replacing the alternator was the fix. Take yours and
 have it tested, it is a diode problem.
 
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Ignition woes

2002-02-20 Thread Herbert Lumpp


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Hello,

The Vette is up and running.  After reading everyone's suggestions, I went
to Autozone and picked up an HEI coil (a stock one, as in cheap!).  After
installing the coil, I turned the key and it started - for a mintute, then
it died.  I tried again and it started doing what it was doing before!  I
moved the distributor around a few times and it finally started and stayed
running.  It appears that the coil went bad - it was a farily new coil so I
figured it wasn't the problem.

For now everything seems to be back to normal (except for the empty house).
In a couple hours I'll go out and see if it still starts.  Thanks for all
your input - again

cYa-

Herb Lumpp
1966 El Camino
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Ignition woes

2002-02-20 Thread Tigergutt


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Herb,

Sorry that I didn't answer before.

I had the same problem on my van last summer, I can bet a beer that it is
the hei module, mine started, run really raw with loads of bing and bangs.
I changed plugs and wires and cap and coil and everything except the module,
when I finally changed the module I could put all the new parts back in the
boxes and the car started as a new one.

Kind Regards
André

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Hello,

The Vette is up and running.  After reading everyone's suggestions, I went
to Autozone and picked up an HEI coil (a stock one, as in cheap!).  After
installing the coil, I turned the key and it started - for a mintute, then
it died.  I tried again and it started doing what it was doing before!  I
moved the distributor around a few times and it finally started and stayed
running.  It appears that the coil went bad - it was a farily new coil so I
figured it wasn't the problem.

For now everything seems to be back to normal (except for the empty house).
In a couple hours I'll go out and see if it still starts.  Thanks for all
your input - again

cYa-

Herb Lumpp
1966 El Camino
ACES #3509
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/herbsworld/index.htm


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Ignition woes (Vette, kinda long)

2002-02-19 Thread Herbert Lumpp


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It's getting spark and fuel, it just won't start.  It's possible the timing
chain jumped a tooth, but the engine has less than 5000 miles on it and I
used a double row timing chain and gears so I want to check all other
possibilities first.

cYa-

Herb Lumpp
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 Here's a couple you can look at. Not sure what year you vett is. I am
 assuming it turns over but does not start.

 Spark-check the coil to spark plugs make sure you are getting a spark to
the
 piston.

 Fuel-make sure you are getting fuel to the carb. Could be a bad fuel
 pump,clogged fuel filter, or maybe some trash in the carb.

 Timing-timing chain could be loose and jumped a couple of teeth.

 Good luck let us know what it is!!




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RE: [Chevelle-List] Ignition woes (Vette, kinda long)

2002-02-19 Thread Dave Studly


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If the timing chain moved, the engine will probably sound a little
different while cranking it over.  Also, from your sequence of events, it
sounds like the car was idling (or at least low-speed/low-load) when it
died.

You didn't mention what kind of distributor you had.  I had an incident a
couple years ago with my HEI and an Accel Super Coil, which was less than a
month old at the time.  One of the coil's wire's insulation crumbled off
inside the cap and it started grounding out internally.  I was driving the
car on a long-ish trip and during the drive back it started running poorly.
I finally pulled off on the side of the road to check it out and it wouldn't
fire again.  (when I say running poorly, the engine was needing a full 1/4
throttle just to maintain 55 MPH on flat land).  Swapping the coil fixed it.

If you doubt the ignition switch, that should be easy enough to bypass with
some aligator clips for testing purposes.  Run power directly to the coil
from the battery, and crank the engine over.

Remember, the car was running fine right before things went south, so the
likelihood that it's something major is low.  Maybe it's also possible your
mechanical pump just happened to die and that getting it to start while
fiddling with the timing was a stroke of good luck?  Ya gotta have fuel and
spark, so I'd check those things first.

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Timing chain slip maybe?

Dale
Yesterday I fiddled around with it and got it running by slowly moving the
distributor until it fired.  It seemed to be running ok, I even went and got
gas.  Sure enough, the movers show up this morning and I go to move the
Vette and the damn thing won't start!  It'll turn over forever but it just
won't start.  I pulled the #1 plug and checked my timing about a dozen
times, I pulled the valve covers and the valve train appears to be working
properly, I even went to Autozone and got another distributor just to see if
that was the problem, no dice.

This is really irritating considering it was running just fine before the
little road trip!

The only other thing I can think of is the ignition switch is bad.  I
installed a new one a few years back for some reason (I still have the
original).  Even if the ignition switch was bad that wouldn't explain why it
died the way it did.

Am I missing something?  Any suggestions?

Thanks guys (and gal)...

cYa-

Herb Lumpp
1966 El Camino
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Ignition woes (Vette, kinda long)

2002-02-19 Thread ChevelleYenko


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Before you go crazy working on it, try a new set of spark plugs. It is 
inexpensive and I have seen that get many sick engines started. There can 
still be something wrong with it but new plugs sometimes gets them started so 
you can find the other problem.

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Ignition woes (Vette, kinda long)

2002-02-18 Thread George Hernandez


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Here's a couple you can look at. Not sure what year you vett is. I am 
assuming it turns over but does not start.

Spark-check the coil to spark plugs make sure you are getting a spark to the 
piston.

Fuel-make sure you are getting fuel to the carb. Could be a bad fuel 
pump,clogged fuel filter, or maybe some trash in the carb.

Timing-timing chain could be loose and jumped a couple of teeth.

Good luck let us know what it is!!


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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 22:13:18 -0800

Hi everyone,

This is about my Vette, hopefully someone will have an idea...

About a week ago my wife and I drove the Vette to visit her sister.  Round 
trip was about 260 miles.  It ran just fine all the way there and all the 
way home.  Once we were home, I pulled up to the driveway so my wife could 
move her truck out of the way (the Vette sleeps inside the garage).  As she 
was getting out, the engine sputtered and died.  I turned the key and it 
cranked a little longer than normal but finally started back up.  It 
sounded a little rougher but it was running.  I pulled it into the garage 
and shut it off.

Yesterday I fiddled around with it and got it running by slowly moving the 
distributor until it fired.  It seemed to be running ok, I even went and 
got gas.  Sure enough, the movers show up this morning and I go to move the 
Vette and the damn thing won't start!  It'll turn over forever but it just 
won't start.  I pulled the #1 plug and checked my timing about a dozen 
times, I pulled the valve covers and the valve train appears to be working 
properly, I even went to Autozone and got another distributor just to see 
if that was the problem, no dice.

This is really irritating considering it was running just fine before the 
little road trip!

The only other thing I can think of is the ignition switch is bad.  I 
installed a new one a few years back for some reason (I still have the 
original).  Even if the ignition switch was bad that wouldn't explain why 
it died the way it did.

Am I missing something?  Any suggestions?

Thanks guys (and gal)...

cYa-

Herb Lumpp
1966 El Camino
ACES #3509
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