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I found out that Ron Davis barely offers a dealer discount and isn't interested in any group purchases. Sorry,guys. Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htmhttp://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/"You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass." - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Clint.. I'd be interested in the group purchase..I'll be replacing mine at some point, might as well do it now... I'll watch to see what you find out. Thanks, Tom P
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How do you spell that sound when you put your tongue between your lips and make like a fart? - LOL Bummer guess he has all the business he can handle. Dale McIntosh 1967 ChevelleReference CD! http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:41 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] new radiator I found out that Ron Davis barely offers a dealer discount and isn't interested in any group purchases. Sorry,guys. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino protourer http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm http://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/ You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Clint.. I'd be interested in the group purchase..I'll be replacing mine at some point, might as well do it now... I'll watch to see what you find out. Thanks, Tom P
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Well less than a year ago that radiator was somewhere around 650 bucks.Does anyone else build one that is close to looks and performance? Larry (Z)
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Herb Lumpp bought his RD set-up more than a year ago and if I remember correctly,it was around $900. A top of the line Alumitechradiator with Spal fans aluminum shroud is $860. If I had my choice,I'd spend the extra $100 and get the Ron Davis. If you don't need the custom shroud and Spal fans w/relays,you can probably get by for around $600-650. Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htmhttp://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/"You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass." - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well less than a year ago that radiator was somewhere around 650 bucks.Does anyone else build one that is close to looks and performance? Larry (Z)
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I bought my Ron Davis rad about three years ago. Dual 12" fans, fully shrouded with trans cooler and catch can, right at a thousand. No regrets. Mike - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] new radiator Herb Lumpp bought his RD set-up more than a year ago and if I remember correctly,it was around $900. A top of the line Alumitechradiator with Spal fans aluminum shroud is $860. If I had my choice,I'd spend the extra $100 and get the Ron Davis. If you don't need the custom shroud and Spal fans w/relays,you can probably get by for around $600-650. Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htmhttp://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/"You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass." - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well less than a year ago that radiator was somewhere around 650 bucks.Does anyone else build one that is close to looks and performance? Larry (Z) No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release Date: 6/23/2006
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You get what you pay for,Larry. That set-up is definitely top of the line. I plan on buying it for my car too,when I get to that point. There's been talk on the Pro-Touring.com site about a possible group purchase on Ron Davis products. I'll see what I can find out. Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htmhttp://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/"You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass." - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dale: It will be going into my 65 Chevelle 454 with 4L80E. Thanks for the info. Larry (Z) Hereis the link: aluminum radiator picture gallery from Ron Davis aluminum radiators This would be with built-in trans cooler and here is the specs: '64-'65 Chevelle / El Camino / Impala 2 rows of 1" wide tubes Dual 13" Spal electric fans 3420 CFM Aluminum shroud
Re: [Chevelle-list] new radiator
Hi Clint.. I'd be interested in the group purchase..I'll be replacing mine at some point, might as well do it now... I'll watch to see what you find out. Thanks, Tom P
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Clint: Thanks!!! Count me in if there is a group purchase. Larry (Z)
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I would suspect it depends on what the specs of the radiator are and what its going in, neither of which are mentioned. Two 1-inch tube crossflow, 3 tube, what? What vehicle? Does seem a bit high though when you can get a good PRC from http://www.streetrodstuff.com/Products/157/ for $398 w/o cooler and $50 more with cooler and theyll built it to your specs. I had one in my 67 and it worked very well. http://dalesplace.com/images/chevelle/p001472.jpg Dale McIntosh 1967 ChevelleReference CD! http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:05 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] new radiator have prices gone up that much in the last year ? Just got a quote and reply from Ron Davis for a radiator: I like to use the cooler in the radiator in most applications and used as a primary in a 2 cooler set-up for race and towing applications. Your cost for the one with the transmission cooler in it is $985.97 and with-out is $916.57, both radiators are plus shipping. Thank You, Bill Williamson Ron Davis Racing Products, Inc. 7334 North 108th Avenue Glendale, AZ. 85307 Tel- 623-877-5000 Ext.16 Fax- 623-877-5001 www.rondavisradiators.com
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Dale: It will be going into my 65 Chevelle 454 with 4L80E. Thanks for the info. Larry (Z) Hereis the link: aluminum radiator picture gallery from Ron Davis aluminum radiators This would be with built-in trans cooler and here is the specs: '64-'65 Chevelle / El Camino / Impala 2 rows of 1" wide tubes Dual 13" Spal electric fans 3420 CFM Aluminum shroud
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In a message dated 7/16/2003 7:49:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] New radiator Permit me to ask the obvious dumb question as to what other two radiators have you had and why were you dissatisfied with them? Just curious,plus I might not want to make the same mistakes, if that's what they were, Herb. BTW,that's a beautiful set-up you bought from RD. If it cools as good as it looks, your cooling problems should be over. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm I hate to bore everyone with this story but I'll try to make it as short as possible... For quite a while I was using the original 6 cylinder radiator. A couple days before transferring from St. Pete, FL. to Arlington, VA., I decided to check the coolant. While the engine was running, I set the rad cap on top of the rad tank. While I was filling a jug with water, the hood decided to slam shut. When it did, it knocked the rad cap into the engine driven fan which then slammed the cap into the radiator core and put a decent size hole in it. Hallelujah, I have a valid excuse to buy that aluminum Griffin radiator I've always wanted! After I got to VA, I ordered a new Griffin with 1.25 tubes. Naturally the bigger tubes were custom order only and I had to wait 5 or 6 weeks to get it. When it finally arrived I was in a hurry (first mistake) to install it but my wife had other plans and I told her it would only take a few minutes (second mistake). A long time ago when I was upgrading things on my Vette, I switched from an engine driven fan to dual electric ZR-1 fans. Because I hadn't upgraded the alternator I had ongoing electrical problems because of the fans. I eventually sorted it all out and the fans now work great. Anyway, I wanted to avoid that problem with the Elky and I chose to use an engine driven fan. Because we all know a fan needs a shroud to work right, I ordered a plastic reproduction shroud (third mistake). In my rush to get my cool Griffin (no pun intended) installed, I didn't notice the tight fit between the fan blades and the cheesy shroud (fourth mistake). After everything was in place I jumped in the Elky and fired her up. Less than a minute into the engine running, I hear this very loud shriek (kinda like when you drag your fingernails down a chalkboard) and the engine stopped running like it seized up. Much to my dismay, when I looked under the hood, a couple of the fan blades had impaled themselves into the core Apparently the clearance between the fan blade tips and the shroud was too small and when I revved the engine (it was cold) the fans blades hit the shroud and bent back into the core so hard it killed the engine. My wife and I have been together since '91 and she's never gotten mad at me before no matter how stupid I was or what I did. But let me tell you, when you destroy a $800 radiator in less than a minute after installing it, I don't think mad even begins to describe my wife at that moment. Definitely not something I want to repeat any time soon! Anyway, because I didn't have $800 to blow on another Griffin I opted to down grade and I bought a copper/brass Desert Cooler from U.S. Radiators. It only cost $400 so it was a deal. Since my wife is the coolest ever, she knew I wasn't happy with the copper radiator and she told me to order another aluminum rad if I really wanted it. Another $800 later brings us to today - I have a new Ron Davis Racing Radiator with a fan shroud and aluminum overflow tank. Sitting in my garage without a home is a Griffin that has been repaired (even though the repair is ugly) and a slightly used Desert Cooler. So now you're all up to speed on my most costly mistake yet! Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ You're right Herb. Carol is the coolest! Good to hear your story and thanks for all the info. After I spoke to you in North East I got some data off the RDR website. Gave it to Bob Wilcox and we're both in contact with RDR's. I probably will go with one when I change to an aluminum rad this winter. Your pictures didn't hurt my decision either. You're not on commission are you? Let us know how it cools and if it does what you want it to. Purty is one thing. Cooling is another! Thanks again. Phil G. 65 SS - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phil G. 65 SS - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 09:00 PM 07/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: My new Ron Davis radiator arrived today. If anyone is interested in checking it out... http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/NewRad.htm I haven't run it yet, but it looks top quality. All the welds are look perfect and my fans fit the shroud perfect. So far I'm very happy with it, but as always, the final verdict will come after I drive it with the a/c running on a hot day. WOW! Send pics when you get it installed, wonder if that would all fit fans all in my 66 Elky with long pump? [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes) Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/ Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/ El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/ My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Herb, She's real purty. Mike - Original Message - From: Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] New radiator My new Ron Davis radiator arrived today. If anyone is interested in checking it out... http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/NewRad.htm I haven't run it yet, but it looks top quality. All the welds are look perfect and my fans fit the shroud perfect. So far I'm very happy with it, but as always, the final verdict will come after I drive it with the a/c running on a hot day. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Herb Nice radiator. Looks like something that will get too dirty.But then on the other hand with everything nice and shinny, it's probably real easy to wash off! But where the heck is the other bung for the oil cooler hidden. I see 1 on the lower right, but where is the other one hiding? Just wondering Bill C - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm thinking that's probably the drain cock since Herb has a 6-speed I believe. Dale McIntosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] New radiator Herb Nice radiator. Looks like something that will get too dirty.But then on the other hand with everything nice and shinny, it's probably real easy to wash off! But where the heck is the other bung for the oil cooler hidden. I see 1 on the lower right, but where is the other one hiding? Just wondering Bill C - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I believe that bung is for the drain petcock. Herb doesn't have an automatic trans in his car. Bill Vander Werf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 7:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] New radiator Herb Nice radiator. Looks like something that will get too dirty.But then on the other hand with everything nice and shinny, it's probably real easy to wash off! But where the heck is the other bung for the oil cooler hidden. I see 1 on the lower right, but where is the other one hiding? Just wondering Bill C - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dang , that's one Fine looking Radiator and the fan shroud fits like a glove. I like the fact the front mounting flange has no pre drilled mounting holes , so you can use your original support holes with the new radiator... Wayne - Original Message - From: Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] New radiator My new Ron Davis radiator arrived today. If anyone is interested in checking it out... http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/NewRad.htm I haven't run it yet, but it looks top quality. All the welds are look perfect and my fans fit the shroud perfect. So far I'm very happy with it, but as always, the final verdict will come after I drive it with the a/c running on a hot day. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Herb, Does this have the 1/2 or 1 tubes running through it?? Donnie - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Herb: looks real good. I am really interested in one for my car. very sanitary unit. Larry (Z)
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Let's see if I can answer everyone's questions/comments in one reply... You're all correct, I have a 6 speed so that bung is for the drain petcock. It has two rows of 1 tubes. Yes it is purty thanks. I doubt it will fit a long pump big block since it looks like a tight fit with my short pump big block. I measured the thickness quickly yesterday (w/ fans) and I think it was 7.5 overall. This shroud is about .75 high and the shroud I made for the previous setup was almost flush to the core. I'm hoping I don't have any clearance issues. This is the third radiator in less than a year and I'm sure my wife is getting tired of me spending money after money on the same thing... I hope it was worth the wait. cYa- Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] New radiator I'm hoping I don't have any clearance issues. This is the third radiator in less than a year and I'm sure my wife is getting tired of me spending money after money on the same thing... Now Herb, I'm sure Carol would never complain about something like that - as long as the same thing you keep spending money on is her! Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Permit me to ask the obvious dumb question as to what other two radiators have you had and why were you dissatisfied with them? Just curious,plus I might not want to make the same mistakes,,if that's what they were,Herb. BTW,that's a beautiful set-up you bought from RD. If it cools as good as it looks,your cooling problems should be over. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's see if I can answer everyone's questions/comments in one reply... You're all correct, I have a 6 speed so that bung is for the drain petcock. It has two rows of 1 tubes. Yes it is purty thanks. I doubt it will fit a long pump big block since it looks like a tight fit with my short pump big block. I measured the thickness quickly yesterday (w/ fans) and I think it was 7.5 overall. This shroud is about .75 high and the shroud I made for the previous setup was almost flush to the core. I'm hoping I don't have any clearance issues. This is the third radiator in less than a year and I'm sure my wife is getting tired of me spending money after money on the same thing... I hope it was worth the wait. cYa- Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Good point! I'm sure Carol will like the way you think. :) Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brad Waller Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] New radiator Now Herb, I'm sure Carol would never complain about something like that - as long as the same thing you keep spending money on is her! Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] New radiator Permit me to ask the obvious dumb question as to what other two radiators have you had and why were you dissatisfied with them? Just curious,plus I might not want to make the same mistakes, if that's what they were, Herb. BTW,that's a beautiful set-up you bought from RD. If it cools as good as it looks, your cooling problems should be over. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm I hate to bore everyone with this story but I'll try to make it as short as possible... For quite a while I was using the original 6 cylinder radiator. A couple days before transferring from St. Pete, FL. to Arlington, VA., I decided to check the coolant. While the engine was running, I set the rad cap on top of the rad tank. While I was filling a jug with water, the hood decided to slam shut. When it did, it knocked the rad cap into the engine driven fan which then slammed the cap into the radiator core and put a decent size hole in it. Hallelujah, I have a valid excuse to buy that aluminum Griffin radiator I've always wanted! After I got to VA, I ordered a new Griffin with 1.25 tubes. Naturally the bigger tubes were custom order only and I had to wait 5 or 6 weeks to get it. When it finally arrived I was in a hurry (first mistake) to install it but my wife had other plans and I told her it would only take a few minutes (second mistake). A long time ago when I was upgrading things on my Vette, I switched from an engine driven fan to dual electric ZR-1 fans. Because I hadn't upgraded the alternator I had ongoing electrical problems because of the fans. I eventually sorted it all out and the fans now work great. Anyway, I wanted to avoid that problem with the Elky and I chose to use an engine driven fan. Because we all know a fan needs a shroud to work right, I ordered a plastic reproduction shroud (third mistake). In my rush to get my cool Griffin (no pun intended) installed, I didn't notice the tight fit between the fan blades and the cheesy shroud (fourth mistake). After everything was in place I jumped in the Elky and fired her up. Less than a minute into the engine running, I hear this very loud shriek (kinda like when you drag your fingernails down a chalkboard) and the engine stopped running like it seized up. Much to my dismay, when I looked under the hood, a couple of the fan blades had impaled themselves into the core Apparently the clearance between the fan blade tips and the shroud was too small and when I revved the engine (it was cold) the fans blades hit the shroud and bent back into the core so hard it killed the engine. My wife and I have been together since '91 and she's never gotten mad at me before no matter how stupid I was or what I did. But let me tell you, when you destroy a $800 radiator in less than a minute after installing it, I don't think mad even begins to describe my wife at that moment. Definitely not something I want to repeat any time soon! Anyway, because I didn't have $800 to blow on another Griffin I opted to down grade and I bought a copper/brass Desert Cooler from U.S. Radiators. It only cost $400 so it was a deal. Since my wife is the coolest ever, she knew I wasn't happy with the copper radiator and she told me to order another aluminum rad if I really wanted it. Another $800 later brings us to today - I have a new Ron Davis Racing Radiator with a fan shroud and aluminum overflow tank. Sitting in my garage without a home is a Griffin that has been repaired (even though the repair is ugly) and a slightly used Desert Cooler. So now you're all up to speed on my most costly mistake yet! Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sorry,Herb. I forgot you and Carol had told me about the Griffin rad episode at CB'03.g Next question;did you pay $600 or $800 for the Ron Davis set-up? Is the Desert Cooler rad for sale,now? Now I'm left wondering if I could run a Ron Davis rad similiar to yours on my 69 with a short water pump. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hate to bore everyone with this story but I'll try to make it as short as possible... For quite a while I was using the original 6 cylinder radiator. A couple days before transferring from St. Pete, FL. to Arlington, VA., I decided to check the coolant. While the engine was running, I set the rad cap on top of the rad tank. While I was filling a jug with water, the hood decided to slam shut. When it did, it knocked the rad cap into the engine driven fan which then slammed the cap into the radiator core and put a decent size hole in it. Hallelujah, I have a valid excuse to buy that aluminum Griffin radiator I've always wanted! After I got to VA, I ordered a new Griffin with 1.25 tubes. Naturally the bigger tubes were custom order only and I had to wait 5 or 6 weeks to get it. When it finally arrived I was in a hurry (first mistake) to install it but my wife had other plans and I told her it would only take a few minutes (second mistake). A long time ago when I was upgrading things on my Vette, I switched from an engine driven fan to dual electric ZR-1 fans. Because I hadn't upgraded the alternator I had ongoing electrical problems because of the fans. I eventually sorted it all out and the fans now work great. Anyway, I wanted to avoid that problem with the Elky and I chose to use an engine driven fan. Because we all know a fan needs a shroud to work right, I ordered a plastic reproduction shroud (third mistake). In my rush to get my cool Griffin (no pun intended) installed, I didn't notice the tight fit between the fan blades and the cheesy shroud (fourth mistake). After everything was in place I jumped in the Elky and fired her up. Less than a minute into the engine running, I hear this very loud shriek (kinda like when you drag your fingernails down a chalkboard) and the engine stopped running like it seized up. Much to my dismay, when I looked under the hood, a couple of the fan blades had impaled themselves into the core Apparently the clearance between the fan blade tips and the shroud was too small and when I revved the engine (it was cold) the fans blades hit the shroud and bent back into the core so hard it killed the engine. My wife and I have been together since '91 and she's never gotten mad at me before no matter how stupid I was or what I did. But let me tell you, when you destroy a $800 radiator in less than a minute after installing it, I don't think mad even begins to describe my wife at that moment. Definitely not something I want to repeat any time soon! Anyway, because I didn't have $800 to blow on another Griffin I opted to down grade and I bought a copper/brass Desert Cooler from U.S. Radiators. It only cost $400 so it was a deal. Since my wife is the coolest ever, she knew I wasn't happy with the copper radiator and she told me to order another aluminum rad if I really wanted it. Another $800 later brings us to today - I have a new Ron Davis Racing Radiator with a fan shroud and aluminum overflow tank. Sitting in my garage without a home is a Griffin that has been repaired (even though the repair is ugly) and a slightly used Desert Cooler. So now you're all up to speed on my most costly mistake yet! Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The RD radiator was $500, the shroud was $100, and I also bought an aluminum overflow tank for $89, plus shipping naturally. All together it was $737.79. Yes the Desert Cooler is for sale. Like I said, I paid $400 for it so if anyone wants it I wouldn't mind getting $200. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] New radiator Sorry,Herb. I forgot you and Carol had told me about the Griffin rad episode at CB'03.g Next question;did you pay $600 or $800 for the Ron Davis set-up? Is the Desert Cooler rad for sale,now? Now I'm left wondering if I could run a Ron Davis rad similiar to yours on my 69 with a short water pump. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That Desert Cooler radiator is a decent unit. I know it won't fit my 69 but what years will it fit besides 1966? Someone needs to snatch it up at that price. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] The RD radiator was $500, the shroud was $100, and I also bought an aluminum overflow tank for $89, plus shipping naturally. All together it was $737.79. Yes the Desert Cooler is for sale. Like I said, I paid $400 for it so if anyone wants it I wouldn't mind getting $200. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've got about an 1 1/2 clearance between my fan and raditor with my long pump. Does your belt system take up some space or do you have a thicker raditor (mine is 2 3/4 think)? http://home.comcast.net/~cutter169/rad007.jpg Ron My '66 http:http://home.comcast.net/~cutter169/chevelle_page.htm Team Chevelle #1668 ACES #5205 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dale McIntosh Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] New radiator Looks very nice indeed. What is the total thickness of the unit from the front mount to the end of the fans? Wish I had the room for a setup like that with a long pump big block. :*( Just don't have the clearance for electric fans. http://www.dalesplace.com/images/chevelle/p001476.jpg Dale McIntosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb Lumpp Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] New radiator My new Ron Davis radiator arrived today. If anyone is interested in checking it out... http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/NewRad.htm I haven't run it yet, but it looks top quality. All the welds are look perfect and my fans fit the shroud perfect. So far I'm very happy with it, but as always, the final verdict will come after I drive it with the a/c running on a hot day. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Looks very nice indeed. What is the total thickness of the unit from the front mount to the end of the fans? Wish I had the room for a setup like that with a long pump big block. :*( Just don't have the clearance for electric fans. http://www.dalesplace.com/images/chevelle/p001476.jpg Dale McIntosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb Lumpp Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] New radiator My new Ron Davis radiator arrived today. If anyone is interested in checking it out... http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/NewRad.htm I haven't run it yet, but it looks top quality. All the welds are look perfect and my fans fit the shroud perfect. So far I'm very happy with it, but as always, the final verdict will come after I drive it with the a/c running on a hot day. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Now that's sharp Herb! Looks like it was worth the wait! Jim '66 Malibu '59 Corvette --- Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My new Ron Davis radiator arrived today. If anyone is interested in checking it out... http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/NewRad.htm I haven't run it yet, but it looks top quality. All the welds are look perfect and my fans fit the shroud perfect. So far I'm very happy with it, but as always, the final verdict will come after I drive it with the a/c running on a hot day. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
