Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed?
Thanks herb, I don't think I'll ever put slicks on mine so I'm sure the 450 will be plenty. David
Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed?
good point Herb, hadnt thought of the clutch/tire slipage. Rob Means"be good,if not,be good at it [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Herbert J Lumpp To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed? David, The only thing I had to do for the ROD is to move the crossmember back so the front mount hole on the crossmember ligned up with the rear mount hole on the frame. I then welded a tab to the frame to extend the mount back about 2 inches or so. Once that was done, I drilled two holes in the new tabs to lign up with the rear holes on the crossmember. I can't remember how many inches, but the driveshaft was also shortened. Other than that, it pretty much fell into place. The torque rating is given as 450lbs, but my understanding is that it's a "static" rating, as in the output shaft is locked while torque is being applied to the input shaft. Needless to say, I don't think there are many street cars that get enough traction to where their engine's torque can duplicate the static rating. Plus you have to consider clutch slippage, the fact that the car will be moving (gears turning) while the torque is applied, etc. cYa- Herb 66 El Camino On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 13:00:05 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know if the Richmond 6 speed is a straight bolt in for a 69 chevelle/elky as a swap for the current 4 speed I've got. I'd like to do the Tremeck 5 speed, but it's more money and more work to install, from what I remember hearing. So is my memory correct, is the Richmond 6 speed an easy placement?As Herb's got one in his '66 I'm assuming they'll stand up to a BB motor, yes?Thanks guys,David '69 SS el Camino
Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed?
David, The only thing I had to do for the ROD is to move the crossmember back so the front mount hole on the crossmember ligned up with the rear mount hole on the frame. I then welded a tab to the frame to extend the mount back about 2 inches or so. Once that was done, I drilled two holes in the new tabs to lign up with the rear holes on the crossmember. I can't remember how many inches, but the driveshaft was also shortened. Other than that, it pretty much fell into place. The torque rating is given as 450lbs, but my understanding is that it's a "static" rating, as in the output shaft is locked while torque is being applied to the input shaft. Needless to say, I don't think there are many street cars that get enough traction to where their engine's torque can duplicate the static rating. Plus you have to consider clutch slippage, the fact that the car will be moving (gears turning) while the torque is applied, etc. cYa- Herb 66 El Camino On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 13:00:05 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know if the Richmond 6 speed is a straight bolt in for a 69 chevelle/elky as a swap for the current 4 speed I've got. I'd like to do the Tremeck 5 speed, but it's more money and more work to install, from what I remember hearing. So is my memory correct, is the Richmond 6 speed an easy placement?As Herb's got one in his '66 I'm assuming they'll stand up to a BB motor, yes?Thanks guys,David '69 SS el Camino
RE: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed?
I just talked with a guy from Auto Gear and he said their M-22’s run 1000HP pretty successfully. Maybe that’s what I need to look into. Anyone need a fresh M-21 that I just got rebuilt? I’m asking $700 or so (I want to get the rebuild paid for). I have the receipt for it! Christian Sager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Pell Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed? >But I’m too stubborn. I refuse to drive an Auto I hear ya! That's why I have the 5sp! I built a pretty basic 454, pump gas engine, roller cam, etc. DesktopDyno states 550lb/ft at 4500 rpm. That's plenty good for street driving. well, too much really. :-) But it's managable. Christian Sager wrote: I guess maybe my engine plans should be changed. Many people have had the same sentiments. Doesn’t sound like I’m going to be able to drive the car I was planning on building. It’s a bummer for me. But I’m too stubborn. I refuse to drive an Auto – its just not an option for this project. Back to the drawing boards Christian Sager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Pell Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed? I'm not sure what the new Super M22 are rated at. Your answer really kind of depends on how you're going to drive the car. If you put slicks on it, and get serious at the track, forget it. You'll likely scatter anything short of a Jerico or Lenco. If you have radial tires, and don't abuse the transmission, then it might hold up. But then why would you build 700+ lb/ft and not use it? With radial tires, you'll spin them like you're on ice! :-) Driving technique will be critial with that much power. If you can properly shift without "shocking" the gears, you might get by. And no abusing it. OTOH, I've seen BBC with supercharges with a Muncie. I don't know how they get by, unless they just don't get driven hard. There is supposedly a Viper transmission that's rated at 800lb/ft, but is a $12,000+ transmission. Worse, they don't hold up any better than the TR-3550 TKO rated at 525 lb/ft. I wouldn't consider a manual transmission with that much power, not with a street transmission. Christian Sager wrote: Anyone have a manual transmission in a car with a lot more torque that 525lb/ft? I’m looking at something in the 700-800lb/ft range. Will a built up brand new Super M-22 handle anything like that? Any advice? Thanks Christian Sager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Pell Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed? Not really. GM Tremec TR-3550 5 speed is $1675.00 (425ft lb rating). GM Tremec TR-3550 5 speed TKO is $1975.00 (525ft lb rating). Tremec T56 6sp is $1895.00 ( I think, I might have to look it up) I can knock 5% off of those prices; $1590, $1876, 1800 respectively Richmond 6sp is $2849.00 - $3049.00 in my Jegs catalog. Richmond Street 5sp is $1849.00 (shifter not included) It's about $275-$300 for a Long brand shifter Richmonds are rated around 425-440 ft lbs, depending on where and when you look it up. The 5sp Tremec come with a shifter. And the TKO ships with a slip yoke. The Tremec will require you to use a C6 slip yoke, so you'll definately have to modify your driveshaft. So you have to include that cost. Both transmissions use the same bellhousing and clutch (26 spline 1 1/8" input shaft), so they are equal cost there. You might also check out this article at Team Chevelle, details installing a Tremec 5sp into a '69 Chevelle http://www.chevelles.com/techref/web_pages/pell/Tremec/TremecInstallation.html hope that clears things up a bit. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, I was compairing the Tremek 5sp to the Richmond 6sp. I thought the Tremek was around $2100. and the Richmond 6sp around $1300. Are those figures about right? David In a message dated 4/4/2002 2:31:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: I would disagree that the Tremec is more money. If you're interested in an apples-to-apples comparison between the Richmond 5 and the Tremec 5, check this out: http://www.tremectransmissions.com/5sp_comparison.html Although I would admit, the Tremec is more work. Your choice depends on what you really want. A true overdrive? or an additional lower gear? Close gearing? or wider gearing? Do you want to keep your existing rear gears? or are you willing to swap? etc. The Tremec doesn't require tunnel "surgery" on
Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed?
>But Im too stubborn. I refuse to drive an Auto I hear ya! That's why I have the 5sp! I built a pretty basic 454, pump gas engine, roller cam, etc. DesktopDyno states 550lb/ft at 4500 rpm. That's plenty good for street driving. well, too much really. :-) But it's managable. Christian Sager wrote: I guess maybe my engine plans should be changed. Many people have had the same sentiments. Doesnt sound like Im going to be able to drive the car I was planning on building. Its a bummer for me. But Im too stubborn. I refuse to drive an Auto its just not an option for this project. Back to the drawing boards Christian Sager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Pell Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed? I'm not sure what the new Super M22 are rated at. Your answer really kind of depends on how you're going to drive the car. If you put slicks on it, and get serious at the track, forget it. You'll likely scatter anything short of a Jerico or Lenco. If you have radial tires, and don't abuse the transmission, then it might hold up. But then why would you build 700+ lb/ft and not use it? With radial tires, you'll spin them like you're on ice! :-) Driving technique will be critial with that much power. If you can properly shift without "shocking" the gears, you might get by. And no abusing it. OTOH, I've seen BBC with supercharges with a Muncie. I don't know how they get by, unless they just don't get driven hard. There is supposedly a Viper transmission that's rated at 800lb/ft, but is a $12,000+ transmission. Worse, they don't hold up any better than the TR-3550 TKO rated at 525 lb/ft. I wouldn't consider a manual transmission with that much power, not with a street transmission. Christian Sager wrote: Anyone have a manual transmission in a car with a lot more torque that 525lb/ft? Im looking at something in the 700-800lb/ft range. Will a built up brand new Super M-22 handle anything like that? Any advice? Thanks Christian Sager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Pell Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed? Not really. GM Tremec TR-3550 5 speed is $1675.00 (425ft lb rating). GM Tremec TR-3550 5 speed TKO is $1975.00 (525ft lb rating). Tremec T56 6sp is $1895.00 ( I think, I might have to look it up) I can knock 5% off of those prices; $1590, $1876, 1800 respectively Richmond 6sp is $2849.00 - $3049.00 in my Jegs catalog. Richmond Street 5sp is $1849.00 (shifter not included) It's about $275-$300 for a Long brand shifter Richmonds are rated around 425-440 ft lbs, depending on where and when you look it up. The 5sp Tremec come with a shifter. And the TKO ships with a slip yoke. The Tremec will require you to use a C6 slip yoke, so you'll definately have to modify your driveshaft. So you have to include that cost. Both transmissions use the same bellhousing and clutch (26 spline 1 1/8" input shaft), so they are equal cost there. You might also check out this article at Team Chevelle, details installing a Tremec 5sp into a '69 Chevelle http://www.chevelles.com/techref/web_pages/pell/Tremec/TremecInstallation.html hope that clears things up a bit. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, I was compairing the Tremek 5sp to the Richmond 6sp. I thought the Tremek was around $2100. and the Richmond 6sp around $1300. Are those figures about right? David In a message dated 4/4/2002 2:31:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: I would disagree that the Tremec is more money. If you're interested in an apples-to-apples comparison between the Richmond 5 and the Tremec 5, check this out: http://www.tremectransmissions.com/5sp_comparison.html Although I would admit, the Tremec is more work. Your choice depends on what you really want. A true overdrive? or an additional lower gear? Close gearing? or wider gearing? Do you want to keep your existing rear gears? or are you willing to swap? etc. The Tremec doesn't require tunnel "surgery" on the '69 (even auto trans tunnel), but you'll have to lower the rear of the trans by 3/8". This can be accomplished by a cross member modification, or a rear trans mount modification. If you're still interested in the Tremec, I can offer list members a 5% discount. That's about $100 savings on a TKO. -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html Tremec Distributor at http://www.tremectransmissions.com/ Team Chevelle membership #178 (Gold) --
RE: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed?
I guess maybe my engine plans should be changed. Many people have had the same sentiments. Doesn’t sound like I’m going to be able to drive the car I was planning on building. It’s a bummer for me. But I’m too stubborn. I refuse to drive an Auto – its just not an option for this project. Back to the drawing boards Christian Sager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Pell Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed? I'm not sure what the new Super M22 are rated at. Your answer really kind of depends on how you're going to drive the car. If you put slicks on it, and get serious at the track, forget it. You'll likely scatter anything short of a Jerico or Lenco. If you have radial tires, and don't abuse the transmission, then it might hold up. But then why would you build 700+ lb/ft and not use it? With radial tires, you'll spin them like you're on ice! :-) Driving technique will be critial with that much power. If you can properly shift without "shocking" the gears, you might get by. And no abusing it. OTOH, I've seen BBC with supercharges with a Muncie. I don't know how they get by, unless they just don't get driven hard. There is supposedly a Viper transmission that's rated at 800lb/ft, but is a $12,000+ transmission. Worse, they don't hold up any better than the TR-3550 TKO rated at 525 lb/ft. I wouldn't consider a manual transmission with that much power, not with a street transmission. Christian Sager wrote: Anyone have a manual transmission in a car with a lot more torque that 525lb/ft? I’m looking at something in the 700-800lb/ft range. Will a built up brand new Super M-22 handle anything like that? Any advice? Thanks Christian Sager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Pell Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed? Not really. GM Tremec TR-3550 5 speed is $1675.00 (425ft lb rating). GM Tremec TR-3550 5 speed TKO is $1975.00 (525ft lb rating). Tremec T56 6sp is $1895.00 ( I think, I might have to look it up) I can knock 5% off of those prices; $1590, $1876, 1800 respectively Richmond 6sp is $2849.00 - $3049.00 in my Jegs catalog. Richmond Street 5sp is $1849.00 (shifter not included) It's about $275-$300 for a Long brand shifter Richmonds are rated around 425-440 ft lbs, depending on where and when you look it up. The 5sp Tremec come with a shifter. And the TKO ships with a slip yoke. The Tremec will require you to use a C6 slip yoke, so you'll definately have to modify your driveshaft. So you have to include that cost. Both transmissions use the same bellhousing and clutch (26 spline 1 1/8" input shaft), so they are equal cost there. You might also check out this article at Team Chevelle, details installing a Tremec 5sp into a '69 Chevelle http://www.chevelles.com/techref/web_pages/pell/Tremec/TremecInstallation.html hope that clears things up a bit. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, I was compairing the Tremek 5sp to the Richmond 6sp. I thought the Tremek was around $2100. and the Richmond 6sp around $1300. Are those figures about right? David In a message dated 4/4/2002 2:31:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: I would disagree that the Tremec is more money. If you're interested in an apples-to-apples comparison between the Richmond 5 and the Tremec 5, check this out: http://www.tremectransmissions.com/5sp_comparison.html Although I would admit, the Tremec is more work. Your choice depends on what you really want. A true overdrive? or an additional lower gear? Close gearing? or wider gearing? Do you want to keep your existing rear gears? or are you willing to swap? etc. The Tremec doesn't require tunnel "surgery" on the '69 (even auto trans tunnel), but you'll have to lower the rear of the trans by 3/8". This can be accomplished by a cross member modification, or a rear trans mount modification. If you're still interested in the Tremec, I can offer list members a 5% discount. That's about $100 savings on a TKO. -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html Tremec Distributor at http://www.tremectransmissions.com/ Team Chevelle membership #178 (Gold) -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html Tremec Distributor at http://www.tremectransmissions.com/ Team Chevelle membership #178 (Gold)
Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed?
I'm not sure what the new Super M22 are rated at. Your answer really kind of depends on how you're going to drive the car. If you put slicks on it, and get serious at the track, forget it. You'll likely scatter anything short of a Jerico or Lenco. If you have radial tires, and don't abuse the transmission, then it might hold up. But then why would you build 700+ lb/ft and not use it? With radial tires, you'll spin them like you're on ice! :-) Driving technique will be critial with that much power. If you can properly shift without "shocking" the gears, you might get by. And no abusing it. OTOH, I've seen BBC with supercharges with a Muncie. I don't know how they get by, unless they just don't get driven hard. There is supposedly a Viper transmission that's rated at 800lb/ft, but is a $12,000+ transmission. Worse, they don't hold up any better than the TR-3550 TKO rated at 525 lb/ft. I wouldn't consider a manual transmission with that much power, not with a street transmission. Christian Sager wrote: Anyone have a manual transmission in a car with a lot more torque that 525lb/ft? Im looking at something in the 700-800lb/ft range. Will a built up brand new Super M-22 handle anything like that? Any advice? Thanks Christian Sager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Pell Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed? Not really. GM Tremec TR-3550 5 speed is $1675.00 (425ft lb rating). GM Tremec TR-3550 5 speed TKO is $1975.00 (525ft lb rating). Tremec T56 6sp is $1895.00 ( I think, I might have to look it up) I can knock 5% off of those prices; $1590, $1876, 1800 respectively Richmond 6sp is $2849.00 - $3049.00 in my Jegs catalog. Richmond Street 5sp is $1849.00 (shifter not included) It's about $275-$300 for a Long brand shifter Richmonds are rated around 425-440 ft lbs, depending on where and when you look it up. The 5sp Tremec come with a shifter. And the TKO ships with a slip yoke. The Tremec will require you to use a C6 slip yoke, so you'll definately have to modify your driveshaft. So you have to include that cost. Both transmissions use the same bellhousing and clutch (26 spline 1 1/8" input shaft), so they are equal cost there. You might also check out this article at Team Chevelle, details installing a Tremec 5sp into a '69 Chevelle http://www.chevelles.com/techref/web_pages/pell/Tremec/TremecInstallation.html hope that clears things up a bit. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, I was compairing the Tremek 5sp to the Richmond 6sp. I thought the Tremek was around $2100. and the Richmond 6sp around $1300. Are those figures about right? David In a message dated 4/4/2002 2:31:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: I would disagree that the Tremec is more money. If you're interested in an apples-to-apples comparison between the Richmond 5 and the Tremec 5, check this out: http://www.tremectransmissions.com/5sp_comparison.html Although I would admit, the Tremec is more work. Your choice depends on what you really want. A true overdrive? or an additional lower gear? Close gearing? or wider gearing? Do you want to keep your existing rear gears? or are you willing to swap? etc. The Tremec doesn't require tunnel "surgery" on the '69 (even auto trans tunnel), but you'll have to lower the rear of the trans by 3/8". This can be accomplished by a cross member modification, or a rear trans mount modification. If you're still interested in the Tremec, I can offer list members a 5% discount. That's about $100 savings on a TKO. -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html Tremec Distributor at http://www.tremectransmissions.com/ Team Chevelle membership #178 (Gold) -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html Tremec Distributor at http://www.tremectransmissions.com/ Team Chevelle membership #178 (Gold)
RE: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed?
Anyone have a manual transmission in a car with a lot more torque that 525lb/ft? I’m looking at something in the 700-800lb/ft range. Will a built up brand new Super M-22 handle anything like that? Any advice? Thanks Christian Sager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Pell Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed? Not really. GM Tremec TR-3550 5 speed is $1675.00 (425ft lb rating). GM Tremec TR-3550 5 speed TKO is $1975.00 (525ft lb rating). Tremec T56 6sp is $1895.00 ( I think, I might have to look it up) I can knock 5% off of those prices; $1590, $1876, 1800 respectively Richmond 6sp is $2849.00 - $3049.00 in my Jegs catalog. Richmond Street 5sp is $1849.00 (shifter not included) It's about $275-$300 for a Long brand shifter Richmonds are rated around 425-440 ft lbs, depending on where and when you look it up. The 5sp Tremec come with a shifter. And the TKO ships with a slip yoke. The Tremec will require you to use a C6 slip yoke, so you'll definately have to modify your driveshaft. So you have to include that cost. Both transmissions use the same bellhousing and clutch (26 spline 1 1/8" input shaft), so they are equal cost there. You might also check out this article at Team Chevelle, details installing a Tremec 5sp into a '69 Chevelle http://www.chevelles.com/techref/web_pages/pell/Tremec/TremecInstallation.html hope that clears things up a bit. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, I was compairing the Tremek 5sp to the Richmond 6sp. I thought the Tremek was around $2100. and the Richmond 6sp around $1300. Are those figures about right? David In a message dated 4/4/2002 2:31:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: I would disagree that the Tremec is more money. If you're interested in an apples-to-apples comparison between the Richmond 5 and the Tremec 5, check this out: http://www.tremectransmissions.com/5sp_comparison.html Although I would admit, the Tremec is more work. Your choice depends on what you really want. A true overdrive? or an additional lower gear? Close gearing? or wider gearing? Do you want to keep your existing rear gears? or are you willing to swap? etc. The Tremec doesn't require tunnel "surgery" on the '69 (even auto trans tunnel), but you'll have to lower the rear of the trans by 3/8". This can be accomplished by a cross member modification, or a rear trans mount modification. If you're still interested in the Tremec, I can offer list members a 5% discount. That's about $100 savings on a TKO. -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html Tremec Distributor at http://www.tremectransmissions.com/ Team Chevelle membership #178 (Gold)
Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed?
Not really. GM Tremec TR-3550 5 speed is $1675.00 (425ft lb rating). GM Tremec TR-3550 5 speed TKO is $1975.00 (525ft lb rating). Tremec T56 6sp is $1895.00 ( I think, I might have to look it up) I can knock 5% off of those prices; $1590, $1876, 1800 respectively Richmond 6sp is $2849.00 - $3049.00 in my Jegs catalog. Richmond Street 5sp is $1849.00 (shifter not included) It's about $275-$300 for a Long brand shifter Richmonds are rated around 425-440 ft lbs, depending on where and when you look it up. The 5sp Tremec come with a shifter. And the TKO ships with a slip yoke. The Tremec will require you to use a C6 slip yoke, so you'll definately have to modify your driveshaft. So you have to include that cost. Both transmissions use the same bellhousing and clutch (26 spline 1 1/8" input shaft), so they are equal cost there. You might also check out this article at Team Chevelle, details installing a Tremec 5sp into a '69 Chevelle http://www.chevelles.com/techref/web_pages/pell/Tremec/TremecInstallation.html hope that clears things up a bit. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, I was compairing the Tremek 5sp to the Richmond 6sp. I thought the Tremek was around $2100. and the Richmond 6sp around $1300. Are those figures about right? David In a message dated 4/4/2002 2:31:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: I would disagree that the Tremec is more money. If you're interested in an apples-to-apples comparison between the Richmond 5 and the Tremec 5, check this out: http://www.tremectransmissions.com/5sp_comparison.html Although I would admit, the Tremec is more work. Your choice depends on what you really want. A true overdrive? or an additional lower gear? Close gearing? or wider gearing? Do you want to keep your existing rear gears? or are you willing to swap? etc. The Tremec doesn't require tunnel "surgery" on the '69 (even auto trans tunnel), but you'll have to lower the rear of the trans by 3/8". This can be accomplished by a cross member modification, or a rear trans mount modification. If you're still interested in the Tremec, I can offer list members a 5% discount. That's about $100 savings on a TKO. -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html Tremec Distributor at http://www.tremectransmissions.com/ Team Chevelle membership #178 (Gold)
Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed?
Michael, I was compairing the Tremek 5sp to the Richmond 6sp. I thought the Tremek was around $2100. and the Richmond 6sp around $1300. Are those figures about right? David In a message dated 4/4/2002 2:31:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: I would disagree that the Tremec is more money. If you're interested in an apples-to-apples comparison between the Richmond 5 and the Tremec 5, check this out: http://www.tremectransmissions.com/5sp_comparison.html Although I would admit, the Tremec is more work. Your choice depends on what you really want. A true overdrive? or an additional lower gear? Close gearing? or wider gearing? Do you want to keep your existing rear gears? or are you willing to swap? etc. The Tremec doesn't require tunnel "surgery" on the '69 (even auto trans tunnel), but you'll have to lower the rear of the trans by 3/8". This can be accomplished by a cross member modification, or a rear trans mount modification. If you're still interested in the Tremec, I can offer list members a 5% discount. That's about $100 savings on a TKO.
Re: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed?
BTW: I would disagree that the Tremec is more money. If you're interested in an apples-to-apples comparison between the Richmond 5 and the Tremec 5, check this out: http://www.tremectransmissions.com/5sp_comparison.html Although I would admit, the Tremec is more work. Your choice depends on what you really want. A true overdrive? or an additional lower gear? Close gearing? or wider gearing? Do you want to keep your existing rear gears? or are you willing to swap? etc. The Tremec doesn't require tunnel "surgery" on the '69 (even auto trans tunnel), but you'll have to lower the rear of the trans by 3/8". This can be accomplished by a cross member modification, or a rear trans mount modification. If you're still interested in the Tremec, I can offer list members a 5% discount. That's about $100 savings on a TKO. Michael Ishee wrote: The Richmond 6-speed is very close to a direct bolt in with your setup.I believe you will have to do very little if any mods to the crossmember. on the other had have a TH350 in the floor in my 69 Chevelle and it is not nearly as close to a bolt in but this mod will still be done by the end of summer.When you get the trans if you do let us know the ratios you got and what rear gear you have.The trans is rated at about 430 hp I believebut I have heard of numerous people running them with higher horsepower with no problems Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed? Does anyone know if the Richmond 6 speed is a straight bolt in for a 69 chevelle/elky as a swap for the current 4 speed I've got. I'd like to do the Tremeck 5 speed, but it's more money and more work to install, from what I remember hearing. So is my memory correct, is the Richmond 6 speed an easy placement? As Herb's got one in his '66 I'm assuming they'll stand up to a BB motor, yes? Thanks guys, David '69 SS el Camino -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html Tremec Distributor at http://www.tremectransmissions.com/ Team Chevelle membership #178 (Gold)
RE: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed?
The Richmond 6-speed is very close to a direct bolt in with your setup. I believe you will have to do very little if any mods to the crossmember. on the other had have a TH350 in the floor in my ’69 Chevelle and it is not nearly as close to a bolt in but this mod will still be done by the end of summer. When you get the trans if you do let us know the ratios you got and what rear gear you have. The trans is rated at about 430 hp I believe but I have heard of numerous people running them with higher horsepower with no problems Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Richmond 6 speed? Does anyone know if the Richmond 6 speed is a straight bolt in for a 69 chevelle/elky as a swap for the current 4 speed I've got. I'd like to do the Tremeck 5 speed, but it's more money and more work to install, from what I remember hearing. So is my memory correct, is the Richmond 6 speed an easy placement? As Herb's got one in his '66 I'm assuming they'll stand up to a BB motor, yes? Thanks guys, David '69 SS el Camino
