Re: [Chevelle-List] TH350 to 400 swap in '66

2002-05-29 Thread Badchevelleman

Can you please tell me the dimensions of the bolt that holds the rear of the 
tranny to the cross member. I went to the local NAPA and they could not find 
me anything.
i think it is just 2 1/2in bolts but i dont know how long any help would be 
greatly appreciated

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RE: [Chevelle-List] TH350 to 400 swap in '66

2002-05-29 Thread 396guy

The TH400 wasn't available in the Chevelle until 67 and the TH350 was 69 I
believe.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
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RE: [Chevelle-List] TH350 to 400 swap in '66

2002-05-29 Thread John Nasta

Hmmm, this is where it gets a little bit murky. I didn't realize that the
TH400 was not available in '66. I put in your zip code and looked it up as a
1969 SS 396 2dr w/ TH400 but got no results. Sorry about that. You may want
to try partsvoice.com and/or uneedapart.com.

It is normal to see some play in the TC before it is bolted up, but make
sure it is clicked in all the way before you try to bolt it.

John


-Original Message-
Thanks John!

Evidently, the second set of holes was not added until later when the TH400
was an option.

Yes I think a new driveshaft is going to be the way to go.  thanks, I would
love the junkyard reference.  20879 (Gaithersburg, MD)

The TC seemed to sit good (clicked into place).  I have not bolted it to the
flywheel yet, but there appears to about a 1/2 inch of play.  Is this
normal?

Thanks,

Matt

  Matt Wooliever
  1966 Malibu
  Gaithersburg, MD





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From: John Nasta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:10 AM
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Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] TH350 to 400 swap in '66


Is there any simple workaround (other than drilling new mounting holes) for
the cross member locating 6" further to the rear?
>>>>

If it's like my 69, it will just slide back. There should be more than one
set of holes.


Obviously I need a new slip yoke.  Any recommendations for a manufacturer
for this and the U-joint?

Is it absolutely necessary to "trim" the drive shaft due to the TH400 being
~1/2 inch longer, or is there some other solution?
>>>>>

You might want to just get a different driveshaft from a junkyard. If you
trim yours it will have to be re-balanced. It certainly can be done, but it
would be easier to just swap in one that fits. Send me your zip code and
I'll see if I can find one near you on the junkyard network.


It would appear the torque converter is a straight swap.  Am I missing
something here, or is this true?
>>>>>

Not sure. I could check on the store computer to see if it shows the same
p/n. I'll try to do that later today.

One tip: of course you will want to make sure that the torque converter is
properly seated. It will click into place. Make sure that after you bolt it
to the flywheel, you can turn the flywheel by hand. If it's jammed up (from
the TC not being all the way in), you'll damage your new transmission.

John Nasta




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RE: [Chevelle-List] TH350 to 400 swap in '66

2002-05-29 Thread Wooliever, Matthew

I will keep the kickdown in mind.  Thanks!  I am driving up to ATI in
Baltimore tomorrow for the core return.  I will see what goodies they have
to offer.

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From: Bill Vander Werf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] TH350 to 400 swap in '66


I replaced the 350 with a Turbo 350 with a 454 and a Turbo 400 in my 71.

The crossmember had to be moved to the rear 6 inches, but in the 71 the
holes
were already provided in the frame from the factory so I didn't have to
drill.

I had to have 1/2" taken out of my driveshaft and I had to shorten the
emergency
brake cable. I found a yoke at the boneyard. It uses the same u-joint as the
smaller yoke. Now is a good time to replace u-joints anyway.

I believe the converters will swap but I would double check that with a
transmission shop.

You will have to provide a switch (B&M makes a kit) for the kickdown because
the
Turbo 400 uses an electric kickdown whereas the Turbo 350 uses a cable.

Bill Vander Werf


"Wooliever, Matthew" wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I am sure that this has been accomplished before and I am in need of some
> tips!  I am swapping out my TH350 for a fresh TH400 in my '66 Malibu.
Here
> are some of the questions I am encountering:
>
> Is there any simple workaround (other than drilling new mounting holes)
for
> the cross member locating 6" further to the rear?
>
> Obviously I need a new slip yoke.  Any recommendations for a manufacturer
> for this and the U-joint?
>
> Is it absolutely necessary to "trim" the drive shaft due to the TH400
being
> ~1/2 inch longer, or is there some other solution?
>
> It would appear the torque converter is a straight swap.  Am I missing
> something here, or is this true?
>
> Of course any other tips and/or recommendations are most welcome.  Thanks
in
> advance!
>
> Reading all of the posts in this group has been just the motivation that I
> have needed to get off my a** this summer and start tooling again.  Much
fun
> as I am sure that you can all appreciate!!!
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Matt
> 
>   Matt Wooliever
>   1966 Malibu
>   Gaithersburg, MD
> 


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RE: [Chevelle-List] TH350 to 400 swap in '66

2002-05-29 Thread Wooliever, Matthew

Thanks John!

Evidently, the second set of holes was not added until later when the TH400
was an option.

Yes I think a new driveshaft is going to be the way to go.  thanks, I would
love the junkyard reference.  20879 (Gaithersburg, MD)

The TC seemed to sit good (clicked into place).  I have not bolted it to the
flywheel yet, but there appears to about a 1/2 inch of play.  Is this
normal?

Thanks,

Matt

  Matt Wooliever
  1966 Malibu
  Gaithersburg, MD





-Original Message-
From: John Nasta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] TH350 to 400 swap in '66


Is there any simple workaround (other than drilling new mounting holes) for
the cross member locating 6" further to the rear?
>>>>

If it's like my 69, it will just slide back. There should be more than one
set of holes.


Obviously I need a new slip yoke.  Any recommendations for a manufacturer
for this and the U-joint?

Is it absolutely necessary to "trim" the drive shaft due to the TH400 being
~1/2 inch longer, or is there some other solution?
>>>>>

You might want to just get a different driveshaft from a junkyard. If you
trim yours it will have to be re-balanced. It certainly can be done, but it
would be easier to just swap in one that fits. Send me your zip code and
I'll see if I can find one near you on the junkyard network.


It would appear the torque converter is a straight swap.  Am I missing
something here, or is this true?
>>>>>

Not sure. I could check on the store computer to see if it shows the same
p/n. I'll try to do that later today.

One tip: of course you will want to make sure that the torque converter is
properly seated. It will click into place. Make sure that after you bolt it
to the flywheel, you can turn the flywheel by hand. If it's jammed up (from
the TC not being all the way in), you'll damage your new transmission.

John Nasta




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Re: [Chevelle-List] TH350 to 400 swap in '66

2002-05-29 Thread Bill Vander Werf

I replaced the 350 with a Turbo 350 with a 454 and a Turbo 400 in my 71.

The crossmember had to be moved to the rear 6 inches, but in the 71 the holes
were already provided in the frame from the factory so I didn't have to drill.

I had to have 1/2" taken out of my driveshaft and I had to shorten the emergency
brake cable. I found a yoke at the boneyard. It uses the same u-joint as the
smaller yoke. Now is a good time to replace u-joints anyway.

I believe the converters will swap but I would double check that with a
transmission shop.

You will have to provide a switch (B&M makes a kit) for the kickdown because the
Turbo 400 uses an electric kickdown whereas the Turbo 350 uses a cable.

Bill Vander Werf


"Wooliever, Matthew" wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I am sure that this has been accomplished before and I am in need of some
> tips!  I am swapping out my TH350 for a fresh TH400 in my '66 Malibu.  Here
> are some of the questions I am encountering:
>
> Is there any simple workaround (other than drilling new mounting holes) for
> the cross member locating 6" further to the rear?
>
> Obviously I need a new slip yoke.  Any recommendations for a manufacturer
> for this and the U-joint?
>
> Is it absolutely necessary to "trim" the drive shaft due to the TH400 being
> ~1/2 inch longer, or is there some other solution?
>
> It would appear the torque converter is a straight swap.  Am I missing
> something here, or is this true?
>
> Of course any other tips and/or recommendations are most welcome.  Thanks in
> advance!
>
> Reading all of the posts in this group has been just the motivation that I
> have needed to get off my a** this summer and start tooling again.  Much fun
> as I am sure that you can all appreciate!!!
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Matt
> 
>   Matt Wooliever
>   1966 Malibu
>   Gaithersburg, MD
> 


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RE: [Chevelle-List] TH350 to 400 swap in '66

2002-05-29 Thread John Nasta

Is there any simple workaround (other than drilling new mounting holes) for
the cross member locating 6" further to the rear?


If it's like my 69, it will just slide back. There should be more than one
set of holes.


Obviously I need a new slip yoke.  Any recommendations for a manufacturer
for this and the U-joint?

Is it absolutely necessary to "trim" the drive shaft due to the TH400 being
~1/2 inch longer, or is there some other solution?
>

You might want to just get a different driveshaft from a junkyard. If you
trim yours it will have to be re-balanced. It certainly can be done, but it
would be easier to just swap in one that fits. Send me your zip code and
I'll see if I can find one near you on the junkyard network.


It would appear the torque converter is a straight swap.  Am I missing
something here, or is this true?
>

Not sure. I could check on the store computer to see if it shows the same
p/n. I'll try to do that later today.

One tip: of course you will want to make sure that the torque converter is
properly seated. It will click into place. Make sure that after you bolt it
to the flywheel, you can turn the flywheel by hand. If it's jammed up (from
the TC not being all the way in), you'll damage your new transmission.

John Nasta




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