Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

2011-02-16 Thread Chum Nault
Jim

Thanks for the info, that matches where I thought they were located, I took
pictures before I cut anything out so I had a good refrence

 

Chum

 

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[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Jim Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:19 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

 

I looked at some of the pics I took on tear down. There are two tabs one is
just below the steering column where the fire wall bends back, The second is
on the side of the trans tunnel across from the floor drain plug. I have a
munci and it is on the passenger side of the tunnel. The cable comes across
and over the trans. 

 

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[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:59 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

 

Haven't had any activity for a while so I thought I would start it off with
some technical questions

I am replacing the master cylinder on my 65 L79 malibu with Manual Brakes.
(The original cylinder is to pitted to rebuild). It came with a 1 inch
cylinder but as I am looking for a new one I see that the HD brakes used a
7/8 cylinder. As far as I can tell the rest of the components are the same.
Am I better off using the original 1 or will I gain anything with the 7/8.
I am restoring this vehicle back to original, it is far from numbers
matching but I want everything to look as original as possible. There are
quite a few different manufactures but the original delco is not available
any suggestions on what to buy, Dorman, A1 Cardone, Centric, Reybestos,
Bendix, or Wagner.

I also just realized that when I replaced the floor I didn't replace the
return spring retainer that is welded in. can anyone give me a measurement
for the correct location, just the distance from the Heel or toe bends
at the lower cowl area, this would have been a lot easier while it was on
the rotisserie rather than back on the frame. I also omitted the speedo
cable retainers if someone can give me an idea where they were originally
locsated. 

 

Thanks 

Chum Nault

 



Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

2011-02-15 Thread Johann Grobler
Morning Chum and Jim,
I also own a 65 Malibu as well as a 1974 Australian/South African  Chevrolet 
Kommando “A” body. The The bodies are similar and the Kommando comes out with a 
Bendix steering system. So my gut feel is to go with the Bendix.
Johann

From: Jim Thompson 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

http://www.getdiscbrakes.com/RightStuff/Default.aspx

 

Great family business. Just call they won’t steer your wrong. 

 

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[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:59 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

 

Haven’t had any activity for a while so I thought I would start it off with 
some technical questions

I am replacing the master cylinder on my 65 L79 malibu with Manual Brakes. (The 
original cylinder is to pitted to rebuild). It came with a 1 inch cylinder but 
as I am looking for a new one I see that the HD brakes used a 7/8” cylinder. As 
far as I can tell the rest of the components are the same. Am I better off 
using the original 1” or will I gain anything with the 7/8”. I am restoring 
this vehicle back to original, it is far from numbers matching but I want 
everything to look as original as possible. There are quite a few different 
manufactures but the original delco is not available any suggestions on what to 
buy, Dorman, A1 Cardone, Centric, Reybestos, Bendix, or Wagner.

I also just realized that when I replaced the floor I didn’t replace the return 
spring retainer that is welded in. can anyone give me a measurement for the 
correct location, just the distance from the “Heel” or “toe” bends at the lower 
cowl area, this would have been a lot easier while it was on the rotisserie 
rather than back on the frame. I also omitted the speedo cable retainers if 
someone can give me an idea where they were originally locsated. 

 

Thanks 

Chum Nault

 


Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

2011-02-15 Thread Jim Thompson
I looked at some of the pics I took on tear down. There are two tabs one is
just below the steering column where the fire wall bends back, The second is
on the side of the trans tunnel across from the floor drain plug. I have a
munci and it is on the passenger side of the tunnel. The cable comes across
and over the trans. 

 

From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net
[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:59 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

 

Haven't had any activity for a while so I thought I would start it off with
some technical questions

I am replacing the master cylinder on my 65 L79 malibu with Manual Brakes.
(The original cylinder is to pitted to rebuild). It came with a 1 inch
cylinder but as I am looking for a new one I see that the HD brakes used a
7/8 cylinder. As far as I can tell the rest of the components are the same.
Am I better off using the original 1 or will I gain anything with the 7/8.
I am restoring this vehicle back to original, it is far from numbers
matching but I want everything to look as original as possible. There are
quite a few different manufactures but the original delco is not available
any suggestions on what to buy, Dorman, A1 Cardone, Centric, Reybestos,
Bendix, or Wagner.

I also just realized that when I replaced the floor I didn't replace the
return spring retainer that is welded in. can anyone give me a measurement
for the correct location, just the distance from the Heel or toe bends
at the lower cowl area, this would have been a lot easier while it was on
the rotisserie rather than back on the frame. I also omitted the speedo
cable retainers if someone can give me an idea where they were originally
locsated. 

 

Thanks 

Chum Nault

 



Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

2011-02-14 Thread Jim Thompson
http://www.getdiscbrakes.com/RightStuff/Default.aspx

 

Great family business. Just call they won't steer your wrong. 

 

From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net
[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:59 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

 

Haven't had any activity for a while so I thought I would start it off with
some technical questions

I am replacing the master cylinder on my 65 L79 malibu with Manual Brakes.
(The original cylinder is to pitted to rebuild). It came with a 1 inch
cylinder but as I am looking for a new one I see that the HD brakes used a
7/8 cylinder. As far as I can tell the rest of the components are the same.
Am I better off using the original 1 or will I gain anything with the 7/8.
I am restoring this vehicle back to original, it is far from numbers
matching but I want everything to look as original as possible. There are
quite a few different manufactures but the original delco is not available
any suggestions on what to buy, Dorman, A1 Cardone, Centric, Reybestos,
Bendix, or Wagner.

I also just realized that when I replaced the floor I didn't replace the
return spring retainer that is welded in. can anyone give me a measurement
for the correct location, just the distance from the Heel or toe bends
at the lower cowl area, this would have been a lot easier while it was on
the rotisserie rather than back on the frame. I also omitted the speedo
cable retainers if someone can give me an idea where they were originally
locsated. 

 

Thanks 

Chum Nault

 



Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

2009-01-10 Thread Johann Grobler
Hi All,
Forty years ago we used to talk of Jap Scrap. Today it is Chinese Junk!  I 
purchased Chinese wheel studs only to discover they were made of mild steel!  
Criminal!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Schaefer 
  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:47 AM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder


   Need some suggestions on what to do for a new master cylinder - 72 elky 
with discs up front.  

I have a never used - rebuilt master cylinder thats been sitting on a 
shelf for 10 years at least.   I opened it to check the bore and the bottom of 
the bore is pitted.  I tried honing and its better, but I can still feel the 
pitting with my finger.  Anyone have an idea on how much I can hone it? 
Or does anyone have a recommendation on who can sleeve it?

OR -  NAPA has a NEW (not rebuilt) master cylinder for about $33.00 .   
   PROBABLY  Chinese manufactured and while it resembles an original, it is 
obvious that its not an original. 

OR - NAPA also has a Cardone rebuilt master cylinder for about $27.00  
I've heard differing opinions on the quality of Cardone 
   rebuilds.  

  If the cost isn't too great I'm leaning toward  having a sleeve put in 
the new rebuilt one I have.  Any other thoughts?  Thanx

  -- 
  Rick Schaefer
  72 TPI El Camino




Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

2009-01-10 Thread Josh Campbell
I personally haven't had any problems with Cardones' products. I used to work 
at a local speed shop/ parts store that deals thier products and rarely had any 
problems/ returns with them. I have used thier calipers and so far 6 years 
later they are holding up. But you know how the reman business is or for that 
matter the parts business as a whole sometimes you just get a bad part. I 
had a Moog tie rod wear out in less than 2 months time, I took it back, had it 
replaced and I was reimbursed through Federal Mogul for my alingment. 


Josh Campbell
The Body Shop (606) 265-5301
66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisseree, 1st car never part with it)
66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the steering wheel)
87 Monte Carlo SS (The modern Chevelle especially when you add the right stuff)
71 Malibu (Something new to blow my money on)

--- On Fri, 1/9/09, Rick Schaefer ric...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Rick Schaefer ric...@gmail.com
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 11:47 PM



 Need some suggestions on what to do for a new master cylinder - 72 elky 
with discs up front.  
 
  I have a never used - rebuilt master cylinder thats been sitting on a 
shelf for 10 years at least.   I opened it to check the bore and the bottom of 
the bore is pitted.  I tried honing and its better, but I can still feel the 
pitting with my finger.  Anyone have an idea on how much I can hone it? 
Or does anyone have a recommendation on who can sleeve it?
 
  OR -  NAPA has a NEW (not rebuilt) master cylinder for about $33.00 
.  PROBABLY  Chinese manufactured and while it resembles an original, it is 
obvious that its not an original. 
 
  OR - NAPA also has a Cardone rebuilt master cylinder for about $27.00  
I've heard differing opinions on the quality of Cardone 
 rebuilds.  
 
    If the cost isn't too great I'm leaning toward  having a sleeve put in the 
new rebuilt one I have.  Any other thoughts?  Thanx

-- 
Rick Schaefer
72 TPI El Camino





  

Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

2009-01-09 Thread Tom Rightler
White Post Restorations does master cylinders.  They do a nice job too.  I had 
them do the one for a 67 E Type Jaguar.

Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Schaefer 
  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:47 PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder


   Need some suggestions on what to do for a new master cylinder - 72 elky 
with discs up front.  

I have a never used - rebuilt master cylinder thats been sitting on a 
shelf for 10 years at least.   I opened it to check the bore and the bottom of 
the bore is pitted.  I tried honing and its better, but I can still feel the 
pitting with my finger.  Anyone have an idea on how much I can hone it? 
Or does anyone have a recommendation on who can sleeve it?

OR -  NAPA has a NEW (not rebuilt) master cylinder for about $33.00 .   
   PROBABLY  Chinese manufactured and while it resembles an original, it is 
obvious that its not an original. 

OR - NAPA also has a Cardone rebuilt master cylinder for about $27.00  
I've heard differing opinions on the quality of Cardone 
   rebuilds.  

  If the cost isn't too great I'm leaning toward  having a sleeve put in 
the new rebuilt one I have.  Any other thoughts?  Thanx

  -- 
  Rick Schaefer
  72 TPI El Camino





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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

2008-02-29 Thread Mike Holleman
Now that you mention it, :-)  Wasn't intended to have a double meaning. In 
this day and time we get our laughs where ever we can find them.

Mike
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For some reason that just reads funny, Mike.  LOL


Additionally, the master is not fully stroked when mounted, therefore
cannot be bleed as well as on the bench.
Mike





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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

2008-02-28 Thread bad66chevelle454

I always take extra line, screw them into the master cylinder, then bend them 
up and into the reservoir, so that the ends of these lines are submerged in the 
reservoir. Fill up the master cylinder with fluid, making sure the ends of the 
lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a vise, and push on the piston 
part of it with a screwdriver. You'll see bubbles come out from the 
lines...keep going and going and going and going(haha) untill no more air comes 
out. You could do this on the car also...which is what I did. That way you can 
just step on the brake pedal. But then you'd need somebody else to tell you 
when the bubbles stop. 



Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask. 


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To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 6:10 am
Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding



Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I got the one with no 
bleeders on it. What is the process to properly bench bleed it?? Thanks? Steve
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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

2008-02-28 Thread Jim Sullivan
Thanks bad66.  I will also be needing this shortly.
Jim



Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

2008-02-28 Thread Daniel Solomon
You can also pickup a plastic set at the local auto parts store. Got one a few 
months ago for 3 bucks. Comes with an assortment of plastic nipples, a clip to 
hold them in the reservoir and some hose.Godspeed, Dan SolomonIt is a mistake 
to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
hurry.http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:30:33 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
I always take extra line, screw them into the master cylinder, then bend them 
up and into the reservoir, so that the ends of these lines are submerged in the 
reservoir. Fill up the master cylinder with fluid, making sure the ends of the 
lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a vise, and push on the piston 
part of it with a screwdriver. You'll see bubbles come out from the 
lines...keep going and going and going and going(haha) untill no more air comes 
out. You could do this on the car also...which is what I did. That way you can 
just step on the brake pedal. But then you'd need somebody else to tell you 
when the bubbles stop. 
 
Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask. 
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 28 
Feb 2008 6:10 amSubject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I got the one with no 
bleeders on it. What is the process to properly bench bleed it?  Thanks  Steve 


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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

2008-02-28 Thread ss454hillman
Thanks Dan, you have also provided me other info before and I surely appreciate 
it ALL?? Thanks?? Steve


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From: Daniel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:34 am
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


You can also pickup a plastic set at the local auto parts store. Got one a few 
months ago for 3 bucks. Comes with an assortment of plastic nipples, a clip to 
hold them in the reservoir and some hose.

Godspeed, Dan Solomon
It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry.
http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/






To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:30:33 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


I always take extra line, screw them into the master cylinder, then bend them 
up and into the reservoir, so that the ends of these lines are submerged in the 
reservoir. Fill up the master cylinder with fluid, making sure the ends of the 
lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a vise, and push on the piston 
part of it with a screwdriver. You'll see bubbles come out from the 
lines...keep going and going and going and going(haha) untill no more air comes 
out. You could do this on the car also...which is what I did. That way you can 
just step on the brake pedal. But then you'd need somebody else to tell you 
when the bubbles stop. 

?

Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask. 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 6:10 am
Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding



Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I got the one with no 
bleeders on it. What is the process to properly bench bleed it?? Thanks? Steve 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

2008-02-28 Thread Rick Schaefer
 The bleeding kit from the parts store works primo - and its cheap.
Because the MC is mounted on an angle, I'd think that its virtually
impossible to bleed it correctly on the car.   I'd mount the MC in a vise 
do it.

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Dan, you have also provided me other info before and I surely
 appreciate it ALL   Thanks   Steve



 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:34 am
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

 You can also pickup a plastic set at the local auto parts store. Got one a
 few months ago for 3 bucks. Comes with an assortment of plastic nipples, a
 clip to hold them in the reservoir and some hose.

 Godspeed, Dan Solomon
 It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a
 hurry.
 http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/





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 To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:30:33 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

 I always take extra line, screw them into the master cylinder, then bend
 them up and into the reservoir, so that the ends of these lines are
 submerged in the reservoir. Fill up the master cylinder with fluid, making
 sure the ends of the lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a vise,
 and push on the piston part of it with a screwdriver. You'll see bubbles
 come out from the lines...keep going and going and going and going(haha)
 untill no more air comes out. You could do this on the car also...which is
 what I did. That way you can just step on the brake pedal. But then you'd
 need somebody else to tell you when the bubbles stop.

 Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask.


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 6:10 am
 Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

 Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I got the one
 with no bleeders on it. What is the process to properly bench bleed it?
 Thanks  Steve
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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

2008-02-28 Thread bad66chevelle454
The master cylinder works properly when driving, and its on an angle...so why 
wouldnt it work if you're just bleeding it? Granted, it's a little harder and 
you have to be a little more careful...but I bled the master cylinder while it 
was installed on my car. Whichever works for yah. :o)


-Original Message-
From: Rick Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 1:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


?The bleeding kit from the parts store works primo - and its cheap.??? Because 
the MC is mounted on an angle, I'd think that its virtually impossible to bleed 
it correctly on the car.?? I'd mount the MC in a vise  do it.


On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks Dan, you have also provided me other info before and I surely appreciate 
it ALL?? Thanks?? Steve 






-Original Message-
From: Daniel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:34 am
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


You can also pickup a plastic set at the local auto parts store. Got one a few 
months ago for 3 bucks. Comes with an assortment of plastic nipples, a clip to 
hold them in the reservoir and some hose.

Godspeed, Dan Solomon
It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry.
http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/






To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:30:33 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


I always take extra line, screw them into the master cylinder, then bend them 
up and into the reservoir, so that the ends of these lines are submerged in the 
reservoir. Fill up the master cylinder with fluid, making sure the ends of the 
lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a vise, and push on the piston 
part of it with a screwdriver. You'll see bubbles come out from the 
lines...keep going and going and going and going(haha) untill no more air comes 
out. You could do this on the car also...which is what I did. That way you can 
just step on the brake pedal. But then you'd need somebody else to tell you 
when the bubbles stop. 

?

Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask. 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 6:10 am
Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding



Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I got the one with no 
bleeders on it. What is the process to properly bench bleed it?? Thanks? Steve 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

2008-02-28 Thread dansolomon
I would go with the vice. Its my understanding that there is an area at the 
leading edge of the piston that can trap some air if not sitting level. In the 
car it is higher than the forward reservoir opening.

Godspeed,
Dan Solomon
It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry.
http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:32:33 
To:chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


The master cylinder works properly when driving, and its on an angle...so why 
wouldnt it work if you're just bleeding it? Granted, it's a little harder and 
you have to be a little more careful...but I bled the master cylinder while it 
was installed on my car. Whichever works for yah. :o)
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 1:27 pm
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
 
 
 The bleeding kit from the parts store works primo - and its cheap.    Because 
the MC is mounted on an angle, I'd think that its virtually impossible to bleed 
it correctly on the car.   I'd mount the MC in a vise  do it.
 
 
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 Thanks Dan, you have also provided me other info before and I surely 
appreciate it ALL   Thanks   Steve 
 
 

 
 
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 From: Daniel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
 Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:34 am
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
 
 
You can also pickup a plastic set at the local auto parts store. Got one a few 
months ago for 3 bucks. Comes with an assortment of plastic nipples, a clip to 
hold them in the reservoir and some hose.
 
 Godspeed, Dan Solomon
 It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry.
 http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ 
http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:30:33 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
 
 
I always take extra line, screw them into the master cylinder, then bend them 
up and into the reservoir, so that the ends of these lines are submerged in the 
reservoir. Fill up the master cylinder with fluid, making sure the ends of the 
lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a vise, and push on the piston 
part of it with a screwdriver. You'll see bubbles come out from the 
lines...keep going and going and going and going(haha) untill no more air comes 
out. You could do this on the car also...which is what I did. That way you can 
just step on the brake pedal. But then you'd need somebody else to tell you 
when the bubbles stop. 
  
Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask. 
 
 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

2008-02-28 Thread Mike Holleman
Additionally, the master is not fully stroked when mounted, therefore cannot 
be bleed as well as on the bench.

Mike
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I would go with the vice. Its my understanding that there is an area at the 
leading edge of the piston that can trap some air if not sitting level. In 
the car it is higher than the forward reservoir opening.


Godspeed,
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hurry.

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The master cylinder works properly when driving, and its on an angle...so 
why wouldnt it work if you're just bleeding it? Granted, it's a little 
harder and you have to be a little more careful...but I bled the master 
cylinder while it was installed on my car. Whichever works for yah. :o)



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The bleeding kit from the parts store works primo - and its cheap. Because 
the MC is mounted on an angle, I'd think that its virtually impossible to 
bleed it correctly on the car. I'd mount the MC in a vise  do it.



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Thanks Dan, you have also provided me other info before and I surely 
appreciate it ALL Thanks Steve






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You can also pickup a plastic set at the local auto parts store. Got one a 
few months ago for 3 bucks. Comes with an assortment of plastic nipples, a 
clip to hold them in the reservoir and some hose.


Godspeed, Dan Solomon
It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
hurry.
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I always take extra line, screw them into the master cylinder, then bend 
them up and into the reservoir, so that the ends of these lines are 
submerged in the reservoir. Fill up the master cylinder with fluid, making 
sure the ends of the lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a 
vise, and push on the piston part of it with a screwdriver. You'll see 
bubbles come out from the lines...keep going and going and going and 
going(haha) untill no more air comes out. You could do this on the car 
also...which is what I did. That way you can just step on the brake pedal. 
But then you'd need somebody else to tell you when the bubbles stop.


Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask.


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Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I got the one 
with no bleeders on it. What is the process to properly bench bleed it? 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

2008-02-28 Thread Dale
For some reason that just reads funny, Mike.  LOL

 Additionally, the master is not fully stroked when mounted, therefore
 cannot be bleed as well as on the bench.
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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

2008-02-28 Thread Brad Waller
What if you put the rear of the car on ramps or jack stands?

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 I would go with the vice. Its my understanding that there is 
 an area at the leading edge of the piston that can trap some 
 air if not sitting level. In the car it is higher than the 
 forward reservoir opening.
 
 Godspeed,
 Dan Solomon
 It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you 
 are in a hurry.
 http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
 
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 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:32:33 
 To:chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
 
 
 The master cylinder works properly when driving, and its on 
 an angle...so why wouldnt it work if you're just bleeding it? 
 Granted, it's a little harder and you have to be a little 
 more careful...but I bled the master cylinder while it was 
 installed on my car. Whichever works for yah. :o)
  
  
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  From: Rick Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 1:27 pm
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
  
  
  The bleeding kit from the parts store works primo - and its 
 cheap.    Because the MC is mounted on an angle, I'd think 
 that its virtually impossible to bleed it correctly on the 
 car.   I'd mount the MC in a vise  do it.
  
  
 On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  Thanks Dan, you have also provided me other info before and 
 I surely appreciate it ALL   Thanks   Steve 
  
  
 
  
  
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  Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:34 am
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
  
  
 You can also pickup a plastic set at the local auto parts 
 store. Got one a few months ago for 3 bucks. Comes with an 
 assortment of plastic nipples, a clip to hold them in the 
 reservoir and some hose.
  
  Godspeed, Dan Solomon
  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize 
 you are in a hurry.
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  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
  
  
 I always take extra line, screw them into the master 
 cylinder, then bend them up and into the reservoir, so that 
 the ends of these lines are submerged in the reservoir. Fill 
 up the master cylinder with fluid, making sure the ends of 
 the lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a vise, 
 and push on the piston part of it with a screwdriver. You'll 
 see bubbles come out from the lines...keep going and going 
 and going and going(haha) untill no more air comes out. You 
 could do this on the car also...which is what I did. That way 
 you can just step on the brake pedal. But then you'd need 
 somebody else to tell you when the bubbles stop. 
   
 Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask. 
  
  
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  Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
  
  
 Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I 
 got the one with no bleeders on it. What is the process to 
 properly bench bleed it?  Thanks  Steve 
  
 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

2007-11-06 Thread Rick Schaefer
  Sounds like a plan.  Hope that it works out for you.

On 11/5/07, Peter Hnat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It is a power assisted master cylinder. I've talk to several members of
 the car club I belong to and they take their cars to a local repair shop for
 work. They are extremely satisfied with their work and said that would be
 the place to go. They are also into muscle cars big time. So that being said
 ,I'm going to have the car towed over there and have them fix the problem. I
 already spoke to the mechanic and he is looking for a new master cylinder
 and not a rebuilt one. I'm also going to have him flush the brake lines and
 put in freash brake fluid.



 Thanks,

 Pete Hnat

 '69 Chevelle SS

 Apex, NC



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 *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 12:30 PM
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 Is this a power assisted brake master cylinder?



 mike



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 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

   Agree with Dan, that some rebuilders do a better job than others.   But
 also, while you have it apart, check that your parts are compatible.   The
 only thing that I can think of would be a mismatch between the push rod 
 M/C.   And I don't think that it would go together with incorrect
 partsbut it might.   Also are you using the correct push rod hole in the
 brake pedal assembly? There might also be other things that could effect
 longevity.

 On 11/5/07, *Daniel Solomon* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I installed one on my car during the restoration process that went bad
 before I even had a chance to drive the car. It really threw me because you
 expect a new part to work. I would try a different brand. Maybe one of the
 companies out there is doing a better rebuild job than the rest.

 Make sure you bench bleed the MC before you install it.



 Godspeed,
 Dan Solomon
 It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a
 hurry
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 *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 10:57 AM

 *Subject:* [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder





 Looking  for some advice/help regarding the master cylinder on my
 Chevelle. I've had the car for three years now and have gone thru 3
 master cylinders in that time. The original one lasted about a month
 after I bought the car. The replacement one lasted about 10 months. The
 replacement for the replacement lasted about a year and half. It is a
 little nerve wracking taking the car out for a drive on a Sunday and
 wondering if the brakes will fail!! Any advice will be greatly
 appreciated.


 Pete Hnat
 Apex, NC
 '69 Chevelle SS




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Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

2007-11-05 Thread Daniel Solomon
I installed one on my car during the restoration process that went bad before I 
even had a chance to drive the car. It really threw me because you expect a new 
part to work. I would try a different brand. Maybe one of the companies out 
there is doing a better rebuild job than the rest.
Make sure you bench bleed the MC before you install it.

Godspeed,
Dan Solomon
It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry
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  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:57 AM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder



  Looking  for some advice/help regarding the master cylinder on my
  Chevelle. I've had the car for three years now and have gone thru 3
  master cylinders in that time. The original one lasted about a month
  after I bought the car. The replacement one lasted about 10 months. The
  replacement for the replacement lasted about a year and half. It is a
  little nerve wracking taking the car out for a drive on a Sunday and
  wondering if the brakes will fail!! Any advice will be greatly
  appreciated.


  Pete Hnat
  Apex, NC
  '69 Chevelle SS



Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

2007-11-05 Thread Rick Schaefer
  Agree with Dan, that some rebuilders do a better job than others.   But
also, while you have it apart, check that your parts are compatible.   The
only thing that I can think of would be a mismatch between the push rod 
M/C.   And I don't think that it would go together with incorrect
partsbut it might.   Also are you using the correct push rod hole in the
brake pedal assembly? There might also be other things that could effect
longevity.

On 11/5/07, Daniel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I installed one on my car during the restoration process that went bad
 before I even had a chance to drive the car. It really threw me because you
 expect a new part to work. I would try a different brand. Maybe one of the
 companies out there is doing a better rebuild job than the rest.
 Make sure you bench bleed the MC before you install it.

 Godspeed,
 Dan Solomon
 It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a
 hurry
 http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Peter Hnat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 10:57 AM
 *Subject:* [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder



 Looking  for some advice/help regarding the master cylinder on my
 Chevelle. I've had the car for three years now and have gone thru 3
 master cylinders in that time. The original one lasted about a month
 after I bought the car. The replacement one lasted about 10 months. The
 replacement for the replacement lasted about a year and half. It is a
 little nerve wracking taking the car out for a drive on a Sunday and
 wondering if the brakes will fail!! Any advice will be greatly
 appreciated.


 Pete Hnat
 Apex, NC
 '69 Chevelle SS




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Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

2007-11-05 Thread mike f
Is this a power assisted brake master cylinder? 

mike



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From: Rick Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 5, 2007 11:24:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

  Agree with Dan, that some rebuilders do a better job than others.   But also, 
while you have it apart, check that your parts are compatible.   The only thing 
that I can think of would be a mismatch between the push rod  M/C.   And I 
don't think that it would go together with incorrect partsbut it might.   
Also are you using the correct push rod hole in the brake pedal assembly? 
There might also be other things that could effect longevity. 


On 11/5/07, Daniel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
I installed one on my car during the restoration process that went bad before I 
even had a chance to drive the car. It really threw me because you expect a new 
part to work. I would try a different brand. Maybe one of the companies out 
there is doing a better rebuild job than the rest. 
Make sure you bench bleed the MC before you install it.
 
Godspeed,
Dan Solomon
It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry
http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
 
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From: Peter Hnat 
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:57 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

 

Looking  for some advice/help regarding the master cylinder on my
Chevelle. I've had the car for three years now and have gone thru 3
master cylinders in that time. The original one lasted about a month 
after I bought the car. The replacement one lasted about 10 months. The
replacement for the replacement lasted about a year and half. It is a
little nerve wracking taking the car out for a drive on a Sunday and
wondering if the brakes will fail!! Any advice will be greatly
appreciated.


Pete Hnat
Apex, NC
'69 Chevelle SS





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Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

2007-11-05 Thread Johann Grobler
Hullo All,

Many years ago I had a similar problem with the master cylinder and found that 
the rod from the pedal to the MC was bent causing the piston assembly to move 
out of line scouring the seals.  Perhaps?

Johann Grobler
In Darkest Afrika
  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Solomon 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder


  I installed one on my car during the restoration process that went bad before 
I even had a chance to drive the car. It really threw me because you expect a 
new part to work. I would try a different brand. Maybe one of the companies out 
there is doing a better rebuild job than the rest.
  Make sure you bench bleed the MC before you install it.

  Godspeed,
  Dan Solomon
  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry
  http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Hnat 
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:57 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder



Looking  for some advice/help regarding the master cylinder on my
Chevelle. I've had the car for three years now and have gone thru 3
master cylinders in that time. The original one lasted about a month
after I bought the car. The replacement one lasted about 10 months. The
replacement for the replacement lasted about a year and half. It is a
little nerve wracking taking the car out for a drive on a Sunday and
wondering if the brakes will fail!! Any advice will be greatly
appreciated.


Pete Hnat
Apex, NC
'69 Chevelle SS



Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

2007-11-05 Thread Peter Hnat
It is a power assisted master cylinder. I've talk to several members of
the car club I belong to and they take their cars to a local repair shop
for work. They are extremely satisfied with their work and said that
would be the place to go. They are also into muscle cars big time. So
that being said ,I'm going to have the car towed over there and have
them fix the problem. I already spoke to the mechanic and he is looking
for a new master cylinder and not a rebuilt one. I'm also going to have
him flush the brake lines and put in freash brake fluid.

 

Thanks,

Pete Hnat

'69 Chevelle SS

Apex, NC

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike f
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:30 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

 

Is this a power assisted brake master cylinder? 

 

mike

 

- Original Message 
From: Rick Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2007 11:24:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

  Agree with Dan, that some rebuilders do a better job than others.
But also, while you have it apart, check that your parts are compatible.
The only thing that I can think of would be a mismatch between the push
rod  M/C.   And I don't think that it would go together with incorrect
partsbut it might.   Also are you using the correct push rod hole in
the brake pedal assembly? There might also be other things that
could effect longevity. 

On 11/5/07, Daniel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I installed one on my car during the restoration process that went bad
before I even had a chance to drive the car. It really threw me because
you expect a new part to work. I would try a different brand. Maybe one
of the companies out there is doing a better rebuild job than the rest. 

Make sure you bench bleed the MC before you install it.

 

Godspeed,
Dan Solomon
It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a
hurry
http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
 

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From: Peter Hnat mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 

Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:57 AM

Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder


 


Looking  for some advice/help regarding the master cylinder on
my
Chevelle. I've had the car for three years now and have gone
thru 3
master cylinders in that time. The original one lasted about a
month 
after I bought the car. The replacement one lasted about 10
months. The
replacement for the replacement lasted about a year and half. It
is a
little nerve wracking taking the car out for a drive on a Sunday
and
wondering if the brakes will fail!! Any advice will be greatly
appreciated.


Pete Hnat
Apex, NC
'69 Chevelle SS




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Re: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder diaphragm

2007-03-27 Thread Johnny Palmer
I make sure that mine are flat across I just did mine too and it was 
dropped a bit..Topped up the fluid and reset the diaphram...
John
66 malibu ss

Re: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

2005-07-13 Thread Fred Dowaliby

Thanks Brian and Ron

This is consistent with everything I've found out about OE master 
cylinders. FYI, however, mine is an aftermarket part and SSBC, who 
manufactured it, verified to me via phone this am that front was front 
and rear was rear. The reservoirs and ports are the same size. As far 
as I can tell the location ( and hence sequencing/timing) of the 
pistons in the bore does however vary. I'm actually relieved as my 
brakes were doing weird things, even though this means I will need to 
run new lines as each takes a different size fitting. I know I could 
have used an adapter but I like doing this stuff the hard way.


Thanks again,

Fred


On Jul 12, 2005, at 11:59 PM, Ron Sparks wrote:

I'm in the process of running the lines from my Baer master and it is 
just

as Brian states as far as the front being the back port, rear the front
port, and, the port size is larger in the rear. That being said, the 
Baer

instructions state that the port size my switch from application to
application, so they included adapters. The one thing they maintain is 
the

which line goes where (front to rear; rear to front).

Also note, that I'm putting an entirely new brake system on the car. 
The

original master was a single reservoir unit.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:56 PM
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

On factory style master cylinders, the smaller port is for the rear 
brakes,
the larger port is for the front brakes. Usually the smaller port is 
toward
the front of the car even though it operates the rear brakes. The size 
is

the main factor, larger for the front system, smaller for the rear.

  Brian


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Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:23:53 -0400

Hi Folks,

Here's a no brainer I assume for most of you.

Is there a standard assignment for brake ports out of the master 
cylinder?

I just found that I had it backwards for one of my cars (after
consulting with SSBC)  and so I am in the process of correcting it.
According to SSBC (and logically, I guess) the front port is for the
front brakes and the rear for the rear. No simple matter, as 
different size

fittings are used.

Rather than use adapters I opted  to replace the lines with new ones
with the proper fittings.

Now I am wondering whether my other car, which is similarly hooked up
with the front port for the rear brakes, and the rear for the front, 
is

backwards and should be likewise switched.

I am looking forward to a hugh improvement in braking and, though my
second car stops well, if I can improve the brakes with a couple of
lines and a little time, why not?

Thanks again for your help,

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

2005-07-13 Thread Bill Bradley
and i thought there was an easy way, nope not around here, good luck and let 
us know how it turns out.

Bill Bradley
67 Malibu
Edmond Oklahoma
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/1649723

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Thanks Brian and Ron

This is consistent with everything I've found out about OE master 
cylinders. FYI, however, mine is an aftermarket part and SSBC, who 
manufactured it, verified to me via phone this am that front was front and 
rear was rear. The reservoirs and ports are the same size. As far as I can 
tell the location ( and hence sequencing/timing) of the pistons in the 
bore does however vary. I'm actually relieved as my brakes were doing 
weird things, even though this means I will need to run new lines as each 
takes a different size fitting. I know I could have used an adapter but I 
like doing this stuff the hard way.


Thanks again,

Fred


On Jul 12, 2005, at 11:59 PM, Ron Sparks wrote:

I'm in the process of running the lines from my Baer master and it is 
just

as Brian states as far as the front being the back port, rear the front
port, and, the port size is larger in the rear. That being said, the Baer
instructions state that the port size my switch from application to
application, so they included adapters. The one thing they maintain is 
the

which line goes where (front to rear; rear to front).

Also note, that I'm putting an entirely new brake system on the car. The
original master was a single reservoir unit.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:56 PM
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

On factory style master cylinders, the smaller port is for the rear 
brakes,
the larger port is for the front brakes. Usually the smaller port is 
toward

the front of the car even though it operates the rear brakes. The size is
the main factor, larger for the front system, smaller for the rear.

  Brian


From: Fred Dowaliby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:23:53 -0400

Hi Folks,

Here's a no brainer I assume for most of you.

Is there a standard assignment for brake ports out of the master 
cylinder?

I just found that I had it backwards for one of my cars (after
consulting with SSBC)  and so I am in the process of correcting it.
According to SSBC (and logically, I guess) the front port is for the
front brakes and the rear for the rear. No simple matter, as different 
size

fittings are used.

Rather than use adapters I opted  to replace the lines with new ones
with the proper fittings.

Now I am wondering whether my other car, which is similarly hooked up
with the front port for the rear brakes, and the rear for the front, is
backwards and should be likewise switched.

I am looking forward to a hugh improvement in braking and, though my
second car stops well, if I can improve the brakes with a couple of
lines and a little time, why not?

Thanks again for your help,

Fred Dowaliby




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RE: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

2005-07-12 Thread Brian Knight
On factory style master cylinders, the smaller port is for the rear brakes, 
the larger port is for the front brakes. Usually the smaller port is toward 
the front of the car even though it operates the rear brakes. The size is 
the main factor, larger for the front system, smaller for the rear.


 Brian


From: Fred Dowaliby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:23:53 -0400

Hi Folks,

Here's a no brainer I assume for most of you.

Is there a standard assignment for brake ports out of the master cylinder? 
I just found that I had it backwards for one of my cars (after consulting 
with SSBC)  and so I am in the process of correcting it. According to SSBC 
(and logically, I guess) the front port is for the front brakes and the 
rear for the rear. No simple matter, as different size fittings are used. 
Rather than use adapters I opted  to replace the lines with new ones with 
the proper fittings.


Now I am wondering whether my other car, which is similarly hooked up with 
the front port for the rear brakes, and the rear for the front, is 
backwards and should be likewise switched.


I am looking forward to a hugh improvement in braking and, though my second 
car stops well, if I can improve the brakes with a couple of lines and a 
little time, why not?


Thanks again for your help,

Fred Dowaliby




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RE: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

2005-07-12 Thread Ron Sparks
I'm in the process of running the lines from my Baer master and it is just
as Brian states as far as the front being the back port, rear the front
port, and, the port size is larger in the rear. That being said, the Baer
instructions state that the port size my switch from application to
application, so they included adapters. The one thing they maintain is the
which line goes where (front to rear; rear to front). 

Also note, that I'm putting an entirely new brake system on the car. The
original master was a single reservoir unit. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Knight
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:56 PM
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

On factory style master cylinders, the smaller port is for the rear brakes,
the larger port is for the front brakes. Usually the smaller port is toward
the front of the car even though it operates the rear brakes. The size is
the main factor, larger for the front system, smaller for the rear.

  Brian

From: Fred Dowaliby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:23:53 -0400

Hi Folks,

Here's a no brainer I assume for most of you.

Is there a standard assignment for brake ports out of the master cylinder? 
I just found that I had it backwards for one of my cars (after 
consulting with SSBC)  and so I am in the process of correcting it. 
According to SSBC (and logically, I guess) the front port is for the 
front brakes and the rear for the rear. No simple matter, as different size
fittings are used.
Rather than use adapters I opted  to replace the lines with new ones 
with the proper fittings.

Now I am wondering whether my other car, which is similarly hooked up 
with the front port for the rear brakes, and the rear for the front, is 
backwards and should be likewise switched.

I am looking forward to a hugh improvement in braking and, though my 
second car stops well, if I can improve the brakes with a couple of 
lines and a little time, why not?

Thanks again for your help,

Fred Dowaliby



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Re: [Chevelle-List] master cylinder

2003-03-02 Thread vmckague
Thanks Jason and Wayne for the info. It seems I learn something new everyday
on this site.
Vernon
64 El Camino
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 ALL 64 Chevelles and GM  cars came with a single
 master cylinder. Theu changed to dual in 1967..

 Wayne
 ACES 1556
 TCG 186
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  I believe it depended on your brake options. If you have drum brakes
then
  you didn't need a dual master cylinder.
 
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RE: [Chevelle-List] master cylinder

2003-03-02 Thread John Nasta
Keep the dual if you are planning to drive the car. It may save your life
one day.

John Nasta



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Thanks Jason and Wayne for the info. It seems I learn something new everyday
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Re: [Chevelle-List] master cylinder

2003-03-01 Thread Jason Boivin
I believe it depended on your brake options. If you have drum brakes then
you didn't need a dual master cylinder.

Jason Boivin

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement

2003-01-15 Thread gm2
Thanks for the site.  It has a lot of good info.  Now can anyone tell me
what the difference is between heavy duty
 brakes w/metallic linings and non-heavy duty brakes with metallic linings.
How can I spot the difference on my car?



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Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement


 The single reservoir you have sounds original. I suggest going to a duel
 reservoir and a power brake booster. If your single fails your out of
luck.
 With the duel you'll at least have one set of brakes. Front or back.
Depends
 on what circuit goes out. Try this site.
 http://www.hotrodssuperstore.com/maspowbrak.html

 Rich
 66 Malibu
 ACES # 5066
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:25 PM
 Subject: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement


  Hi,
 
  I went to back my 64 Chevelle out on Saturday and noticed that I had no
 brakes left.  What little fluid was left in the master cylinder had leaked
 out and it was now empty.  Good thing the emergency brake still worked.
 
  Would I be better off replacing the whole master cylinder or should I
try
 a re-build kit?  My current master cylinder has the screw on cap while the
 replacements seem to have the clip that goes over the cover.  Which one is
 correct for a restoration?
 
  Napa auto parts lists 2 types of master cylinders. One is for heavy duty
 brakes w/metalic linings and the other is for non-heavy duty brakes with
 metalic linings. What is the difference and how can I tell what is on my
 car?  I have 4 wheel drum brakes.
 
  Napa also has the power booster for the brakes (87.00) which I would
also
 like to add.  It doesn't look like the AC/Delco ones in the Chevelle
 catalogs that go for about $230.00.  What is involved in adding this to
the
 car?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Gary
 
 
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement

2003-01-15 Thread Dan McIntosh
Gary,
Does it have something to do with the drum diameter. I remember when I
rebuilt the front brakes on the 65, I kept getting asked the drum diameter.
Worth a shot.

Dan McIntosh
64 Impala SS
www.alloldchevy.com

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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement


 Thanks for the site.  It has a lot of good info.  Now can anyone tell me
 what the difference is between heavy duty
  brakes w/metallic linings and non-heavy duty brakes with metallic
linings.
 How can I spot the difference on my car?



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 From: Richard Milkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement


  The single reservoir you have sounds original. I suggest going to a duel
  reservoir and a power brake booster. If your single fails your out of
 luck.
  With the duel you'll at least have one set of brakes. Front or back.
 Depends
  on what circuit goes out. Try this site.
  http://www.hotrodssuperstore.com/maspowbrak.html
 
  Rich
  66 Malibu
  ACES # 5066
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:25 PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement
 
 
   Hi,
  
   I went to back my 64 Chevelle out on Saturday and noticed that I had
no
  brakes left.  What little fluid was left in the master cylinder had
leaked
  out and it was now empty.  Good thing the emergency brake still worked.
  
   Would I be better off replacing the whole master cylinder or should I
 try
  a re-build kit?  My current master cylinder has the screw on cap while
the
  replacements seem to have the clip that goes over the cover.  Which one
is
  correct for a restoration?
  
   Napa auto parts lists 2 types of master cylinders. One is for heavy
duty
  brakes w/metalic linings and the other is for non-heavy duty brakes with
  metalic linings. What is the difference and how can I tell what is on my
  car?  I have 4 wheel drum brakes.
  
   Napa also has the power booster for the brakes (87.00) which I would
 also
  like to add.  It doesn't look like the AC/Delco ones in the Chevelle
  catalogs that go for about $230.00.  What is involved in adding this to
 the
  car?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Gary
  
  
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement

2003-01-15 Thread GLENN BAILEY
Metallic linings are a rare bird, and most have long since been refitted to 
organic.  The metallic lining uses a series of 4 (IIRC) sintered iron pads 
on the brake shoe.  They use a lined drum to reduce the wear.  I believe the 
MC bore is a different size because you needed more force to stop the 
sucker, especially when the shoes were cold.  If your brake shoes look like 
a normal shoe, you have the exc. HD metallic.  That would be my guess.  I 
had a 66 many years ago with the OE metal, and it was a two footed stop on a 
cold morning.
Glenn






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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 04:43:41 -0600

Thanks for the site.  It has a lot of good info.  Now can anyone tell me
what the difference is between heavy duty
 brakes w/metallic linings and non-heavy duty brakes with metallic 
linings.
How can I spot the difference on my car?



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From: Richard Milkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement


 The single reservoir you have sounds original. I suggest going to a duel
 reservoir and a power brake booster. If your single fails your out of
luck.
 With the duel you'll at least have one set of brakes. Front or back.
Depends
 on what circuit goes out. Try this site.
 http://www.hotrodssuperstore.com/maspowbrak.html

 Rich
 66 Malibu
 ACES # 5066
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:25 PM
 Subject: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement


  Hi,
 
  I went to back my 64 Chevelle out on Saturday and noticed that I had 
no
 brakes left.  What little fluid was left in the master cylinder had 
leaked
 out and it was now empty.  Good thing the emergency brake still worked.
 
  Would I be better off replacing the whole master cylinder or should I
try
 a re-build kit?  My current master cylinder has the screw on cap while 
the
 replacements seem to have the clip that goes over the cover.  Which one 
is
 correct for a restoration?
 
  Napa auto parts lists 2 types of master cylinders. One is for heavy 
duty
 brakes w/metalic linings and the other is for non-heavy duty brakes with
 metalic linings. What is the difference and how can I tell what is on my
 car?  I have 4 wheel drum brakes.
 
  Napa also has the power booster for the brakes (87.00) which I would
also
 like to add.  It doesn't look like the AC/Delco ones in the Chevelle
 catalogs that go for about $230.00.  What is involved in adding this to
the
 car?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Gary
 
 
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement

2003-01-14 Thread Richard Milkiewicz
The single reservoir you have sounds original. I suggest going to a duel
reservoir and a power brake booster. If your single fails your out of luck.
With the duel you'll at least have one set of brakes. Front or back. Depends
on what circuit goes out. Try this site.
http://www.hotrodssuperstore.com/maspowbrak.html

Rich
66 Malibu
ACES # 5066
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Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:25 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement


 Hi,

 I went to back my 64 Chevelle out on Saturday and noticed that I had no
brakes left.  What little fluid was left in the master cylinder had leaked
out and it was now empty.  Good thing the emergency brake still worked.

 Would I be better off replacing the whole master cylinder or should I try
a re-build kit?  My current master cylinder has the screw on cap while the
replacements seem to have the clip that goes over the cover.  Which one is
correct for a restoration?

 Napa auto parts lists 2 types of master cylinders. One is for heavy duty
brakes w/metalic linings and the other is for non-heavy duty brakes with
metalic linings. What is the difference and how can I tell what is on my
car?  I have 4 wheel drum brakes.

 Napa also has the power booster for the brakes (87.00) which I would also
like to add.  It doesn't look like the AC/Delco ones in the Chevelle
catalogs that go for about $230.00.  What is involved in adding this to the
car?

 Thanks,

 Gary


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RE: [Chevelle-List] master cylinder mania

2002-10-27 Thread John Nasta
I really don't know. I am offering them on behalf of a friend who owns an
auto parts store and he said that's what they sell for. In fact, he said
that the wholesale cost on them was $115 each. I figured they might be good
for somebody who is running a hot cam and wants manual brakes because they
don't need vacuum to operate. The part #'s are there so feel free to check
the prices elsewhere.

John Nasta



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Just out of curiosity, why do these retail at $150, while a MC (brake
right?)
for my 69 Chevelle costs less than $30.00 at Autozone?

Just doesn't add up

John Nasta wrote:

 A friend of mine has 4 master cylinders (all brand new), which
 cross-reference to the following:

 Delco 18M500
 Bendix 11639
 Raybestos MC39946

 They fit the following vehicles with manual brakes:

 73 El Camino Moraine type 4.1L, 5.0L, 5.7L (350CID), 7.4L (454 CID)

 73-75 El Camino 5.7L (350CID), 7.4L (454 CID)

 73-77 Cutlass Bendix type

 74-76 El Camino 6.6L

 75-76 Chevelle Malibu, Bendix type

 75-76 Monte Carlo, Bendix type

 76 El Camino 5.7L

 77 Chevelle Bendix type V8 5.0L, 5.7L

 77 El Camino 5.0L

 77 Monte Carlo Bendix type 5.7L

 These normally retail for about $150 each. They are all brand new. Looking
 for $75 each. Contact me privately if interested.

 Thanks,
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RE: [Chevelle-List] master cylinder mania

2002-10-27 Thread the . cat
Here in Canada, at least, rebuilt master cylinders are very much 
cheaper than all-new models.  For example, I got a new one for $140, 
where there rebuilt one was offered at $50.  The quality workmanship 
of the rebuilt one was poor, and that of the new one was much better.

Dave.


I really don't know. I am offering them on behalf of a friend who owns an
auto parts store and he said that's what they sell for. In fact, he said
that the wholesale cost on them was $115 each. I figured they might be good
for somebody who is running a hot cam and wants manual brakes because they
don't need vacuum to operate. The part #'s are there so feel free to check
the prices elsewhere.

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RE: [Chevelle-List] master cylinder mania

2002-10-27 Thread John Nasta
Makes sense to me. He did say that these are new. The reason he is offering
them cheap is because they are NOS, which means to him that they have been
taking up shelf space for a long time and he hasn't sold one in years. Of
course to one of us it might mean something completely different.

BTW he is going through all of the inventory and soon we will have pre-bent
exhaust pipes galore and tons of brake drums/rotors. His family owns 2
stores, one of which opened in 1929 and another that was originally a
Pontiac dealership until his dad bought the building in the 60s and
converted it to a parts store. To him these old parts are somewhat of a
nuisance because they are taking up space and he doesn't get any call for
them.

John Nasta



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Here in Canada, at least, rebuilt master cylinders are very much
cheaper than all-new models.  For example, I got a new one for $140,
where there rebuilt one was offered at $50.  The quality workmanship
of the rebuilt one was poor, and that of the new one was much better.

Dave.


I really don't know. I am offering them on behalf of a friend who owns an
auto parts store and he said that's what they sell for. In fact, he said
that the wholesale cost on them was $115 each. I figured they might be good
for somebody who is running a hot cam and wants manual brakes because they
don't need vacuum to operate. The part #'s are there so feel free to check
the prices elsewhere.

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Re: [Chevelle-List] master cylinder mania

2002-10-27 Thread Michael Pell
I wasn't challenging you.  :-)  was just curious.

John Nasta wrote:

 I really don't know. I am offering them on behalf of a friend who owns an
 auto parts store and he said that's what they sell for. In fact, he said
 that the wholesale cost on them was $115 each. I figured they might be good
 for somebody who is running a hot cam and wants manual brakes because they
 don't need vacuum to operate. The part #'s are there so feel free to check
 the prices elsewhere.

 John Nasta

 -Original Message-

 Just out of curiosity, why do these retail at $150, while a MC (brake
 right?)
 for my 69 Chevelle costs less than $30.00 at Autozone?

 Just doesn't add up

 John Nasta wrote:

  A friend of mine has 4 master cylinders (all brand new), which
  cross-reference to the following:
 
  Delco 18M500
  Bendix 11639
  Raybestos MC39946
 
  They fit the following vehicles with manual brakes:
 
  73 El Camino Moraine type 4.1L, 5.0L, 5.7L (350CID), 7.4L (454 CID)
 
  73-75 El Camino 5.7L (350CID), 7.4L (454 CID)
 
  73-77 Cutlass Bendix type
 
  74-76 El Camino 6.6L
 
  75-76 Chevelle Malibu, Bendix type
 
  75-76 Monte Carlo, Bendix type
 
  76 El Camino 5.7L
 
  77 Chevelle Bendix type V8 5.0L, 5.7L
 
  77 El Camino 5.0L
 
  77 Monte Carlo Bendix type 5.7L
 
  These normally retail for about $150 each. They are all brand new. Looking
  for $75 each. Contact me privately if interested.
 
  Thanks,
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RE: [Chevelle-List] master cylinder mania

2002-10-27 Thread John Nasta
I wasn't feeling challenged. Just stating the facts as I know them.

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I wasn't challenging you.  :-)  was just curious.




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Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder

2001-07-22 Thread Frank Evan Perdicaro


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 Just curious.  Is this a problem because I didn't purchase a MC for a
 disk brake setup?
Yes.


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder

2001-07-21 Thread Michael Pell


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Just curious.  Is this a problem because I didn't purchase a MC for a
disk brake setup?
Or would I have the same issue if I bought an OEM  MC for disk brakes?

thanks!

Frank Evan Perdicaro wrote:
 
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  In a message dated 7/16/01 5:17:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   Remove the residual pressure valve(s) from your MC.
 
  How do you do that?  I'm planning on doing the same swap from a 68 Chevelle
  to a 65 El Camino in the next couple of weeks.
 
 Little tiny disk valves that are mounted on the spool inside the MC.
 You need to pull and disassemble the MC, take off the obvious pieces,
 and re-assemble.
 
 Be sure to wear eye protection.  There will be flying brake fluid,
 springs and little clips.
 
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder

2001-07-16 Thread Frank Evan Perdicaro


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On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 08:52:52PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 7/16/01 5:17:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 writes:
 
 
  Remove the residual pressure valve(s) from your MC.
 
 How do you do that?  I'm planning on doing the same swap from a 68 Chevelle 
 to a 65 El Camino in the next couple of weeks.

Little tiny disk valves that are mounted on the spool inside the MC.
You need to pull and disassemble the MC, take off the obvious pieces,
and re-assemble.

Be sure to wear eye protection.  There will be flying brake fluid,
springs and little clips.


 ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤
 Jason
 San Berdoo, So. California
 A HREF=www.angelfire.com/ca5/Jasons65ElCaminoJason's 1965 El Camino/A
 

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder

2001-07-16 Thread HilltopRacing703
In a message dated 7/16/01 5:17:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Remove the residual pressure valve(s) from your MC.

How do you do that? I'm planning on doing the same swap from a 68 Chevelle 
to a 65 El Camino in the next couple of weeks.
ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤
Jason
San Berdoo, So. California
Jason's 1965 El Camino



Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder

2001-07-16 Thread HilltopRacing703
In a message dated 7/16/01 5:59:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Little tiny disk valves that are mounted on the spool inside the MC.
You need to pull and disassemble the MC, take off the obvious pieces,
and re-assemble.

Be sure to wear eye protection. There will be flying brake fluid,
springs and little clips.

Ahhh, very valuable info. Thanks.