Re: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-08-04 Thread 65ss.com



http://www.paceperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=26946
 
They added pictures!!!

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  65ss.com 
  
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  @$641 You can't go wrong!  Next paycheck 
  looks like there might be a serpentine system in my future!
  I hopt it fits a 502.
   
  Charles---Check 
  out my 502 powered '65 Malibu Super Sport Projecthttp://www.65ss.com
  
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Dale 
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Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:51 
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FWIW, GM Parts Direct (http://www.gmpartsdirect.com) has 
the same part #12498733 for $640.50 but no listing of individual 
parts.  Same price for the small block unit as well (#12497698) and 
they have a picture of the small block unit (http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/part_images/124976981.jpg)
 
I've compared about a dozen prices between GM Parts 
Direct and GM Parts Depot.  So far, GM Parts Direct is cheaper on 
everything (crate motor, distributor, balancer, flex plate, serpentine kit, 
bolts, gaskets, valve covers, etc.)
 
Larry:  Quite possible that Pace doesn't list it 
on their website.  If you're getting 20% off MSRP, the serpentine kit 
lists for $915.  At $641.50 from GM Parts Direct, that's a 30% 
cut.
Dale McIntosh 
 

  
  
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  65ss.comSent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 8:01 AMTo: 
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  ...
  
  Here's a better list of parts...
   
  Click 
  Here
   
  Let me know if this works.  

  GMParts Depot seems to have done a bit more 
  homework.
  For $778 that's a steal.  
  If I end up having to run a Short Water Pump 
  setup in my '65, I will easily have that much in a stock system with 
  current market prices.  Especially since this has all of the 
  pulley's, power steering pump, water pump, A/C compressor, and 
  Alternator.
   
   
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  From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 7:15 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Final one 
  ...
  > Once in a while serpentine belts seem like a good 
  idea and then I recover and forget about it!  ; )> I see Pace 
  has reverse rotation pumps for small and big blocks.> Not even 
  going to venture as to what works with what.> http://www.paceparts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=23719> > I wonder if a rebuilder could rebuild an 
  original pump with the other impeller? (if that's all that's 
  different)> > Think you have a problem?> Try to 
  figure out how you're going to get the serpentine grooves onto your six 
  cylinder balancer!> (which has the pulley grooves cut into it) 
  > > > Pete Geurds> Douglassville, PA> 
  > 


Re: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-08-01 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
Thanks Dale for all the info. I'm assuming that this kit is for a long shaft water pump?
   Larry (Z)


RE: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-08-01 Thread rick schaefer
I don't see a conventional fan with any of these.  Is an electric fan required?


rick schaefer
72 El camino
http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/rick/elcamino17.jpg
ACES #00140
Team Chevelle #00038

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FWIW, GM Parts Direct (http://www.gmpartsdirect.com) has the 
same part #12498733 for $640.50 but no listing of individual parts.  Same 
price for the small block unit as well (#12497698) and they have a picture of 
the small block unit (http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/part_images/124976981.jpg)
 
I've compared about a dozen prices between GM Parts Direct 
and GM Parts Depot.  So far, GM Parts Direct is cheaper on everything 
(crate motor, distributor, balancer, flex plate, serpentine kit, bolts, gaskets, 
valve covers, etc.)
 
Larry:  Quite possible that Pace doesn't list it on 
their website.  If you're getting 20% off MSRP, the serpentine kit lists 
for $915.  At $641.50 from GM Parts Direct, that's a 30% 
cut.
Dale McIntosh 
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  65ss.comSent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 8:01 AMTo: The 
  Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Final one 
  ...
  
  Here's a better list of parts...
   
  Click 
  Here
   
  Let me know if this works.  
  GMParts Depot seems to have done a bit more 
  homework.
  For $778 that's a steal.  
  If I end up having to run a Short Water Pump 
  setup in my '65, I will easily have that much in a stock system with current 
  market prices.  Especially since this has all of the pulley's, power 
  steering pump, water pump, A/C compressor, and Alternator.
   
   
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  From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 7:15 
AM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Final one 
  ...
  > Once in a while serpentine belts seem like a good idea and then I 
  recover and forget about it!  ; )> I see Pace has reverse rotation 
  pumps for small and big blocks.> Not even going to venture as to what 
  works with what.> http://www.paceparts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=23719> > I wonder if a rebuilder could rebuild an 
  original pump with the other impeller? (if that's all that's 
  different)> > Think you have a problem?> Try to figure 
  out how you're going to get the serpentine grooves onto your six cylinder 
  balancer!> (which has the pulley grooves cut into it) > > 
  > Pete Geurds> Douglassville, PA> > 

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-08-01 Thread 65ss.com



@$641 You can't go wrong!  Next paycheck looks 
like there might be a serpentine system in my future!
I hopt it fits a 502.
 
Charles---Check 
out my 502 powered '65 Malibu Super Sport Projecthttp://www.65ss.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dale 
  To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
  
  Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:51 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Final one 
  ...
  
  FWIW, GM Parts Direct (http://www.gmpartsdirect.com) has the 
  same part #12498733 for $640.50 but no listing of individual parts.  Same 
  price for the small block unit as well (#12497698) and they have a picture of 
  the small block unit (http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/part_images/124976981.jpg)
   
  I've compared about a dozen prices between GM Parts 
  Direct and GM Parts Depot.  So far, GM Parts Direct is cheaper on 
  everything (crate motor, distributor, balancer, flex plate, serpentine kit, 
  bolts, gaskets, valve covers, etc.)
   
  Larry:  Quite possible that Pace doesn't list it on 
  their website.  If you're getting 20% off MSRP, the serpentine kit lists 
  for $915.  At $641.50 from GM Parts Direct, that's a 30% 
  cut.
  Dale McIntosh 
   
  


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
65ss.comSent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 8:01 AMTo: 
    The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Final one 
...

Here's a better list of parts...
 
Click 
Here
 
Let me know if this works.  
GMParts Depot seems to have done a bit more 
homework.
For $778 that's a steal.  
If I end up having to run a Short Water Pump 
setup in my '65, I will easily have that much in a stock system with current 
market prices.  Especially since this has all of the pulley's, power 
steering pump, water pump, A/C compressor, and Alternator.
 
 
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 7:15 
AM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Final one 
...
> Once in a while serpentine belts seem like a good idea and then 
I recover and forget about it!  ; )> I see Pace has reverse 
rotation pumps for small and big blocks.> Not even going to venture 
as to what works with what.> http://www.paceparts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=23719> > I wonder if a rebuilder could rebuild an 
original pump with the other impeller? (if that's all that's 
different)> > Think you have a problem?> Try to figure 
out how you're going to get the serpentine grooves onto your six cylinder 
balancer!> (which has the pulley grooves cut into it) > 
> > Pete Geurds> Douglassville, PA> > 



RE: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-08-01 Thread Dale



FWIW, GM Parts Direct (http://www.gmpartsdirect.com) has the 
same part #12498733 for $640.50 but no listing of individual parts.  Same 
price for the small block unit as well (#12497698) and they have a picture of 
the small block unit (http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/part_images/124976981.jpg)
 
I've compared about a dozen prices between GM Parts Direct 
and GM Parts Depot.  So far, GM Parts Direct is cheaper on everything 
(crate motor, distributor, balancer, flex plate, serpentine kit, bolts, gaskets, 
valve covers, etc.)
 
Larry:  Quite possible that Pace doesn't list it on 
their website.  If you're getting 20% off MSRP, the serpentine kit lists 
for $915.  At $641.50 from GM Parts Direct, that's a 30% 
cut.
Dale McIntosh 
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  65ss.comSent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 8:01 AMTo: The 
  Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Final one 
  ...
  
  Here's a better list of parts...
   
  Click 
  Here
   
  Let me know if this works.  
  GMParts Depot seems to have done a bit more 
  homework.
  For $778 that's a steal.  
  If I end up having to run a Short Water Pump 
  setup in my '65, I will easily have that much in a stock system with current 
  market prices.  Especially since this has all of the pulley's, power 
  steering pump, water pump, A/C compressor, and Alternator.
   
   
  - Original Message - 
  From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 7:15 
AM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Final one 
  ...
  > Once in a while serpentine belts seem like a good idea and then I 
  recover and forget about it!  ; )> I see Pace has reverse rotation 
  pumps for small and big blocks.> Not even going to venture as to what 
  works with what.> http://www.paceparts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=23719> > I wonder if a rebuilder could rebuild an 
  original pump with the other impeller? (if that's all that's 
  different)> > Think you have a problem?> Try to figure 
  out how you're going to get the serpentine grooves onto your six cylinder 
  balancer!> (which has the pulley grooves cut into it) > > 
  > Pete Geurds> Douglassville, PA> > 



Re: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-08-01 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
thanks Dale:
I'm still looking for the parts list @ pace.
   Larry (Z)


Re: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-08-01 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
Thanks for the list of parts from GM Parts Depot. I still haven't been able to find a list of parts @ the Pace Chevrolet link. I'm wondering how good the price is as I do have 20% discount @ the local GM dealer.
   Larry (Z)


RE: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-08-01 Thread Dale



10463415 1 Generator Sam-reman 
CS130 (1st item) [note it's 
rebuilt]
12456326 1 Pump Kit, Wat (3rd item)
01134343 1 Compressor Asm, A/C R4 (4th 
item)
 
Dale McIntosh 

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[Chevelle-list] Final one ...

  Cecil: Are you sure it 
  comes with the ac compressor, alternator and water pump? No where can I find 
  it mentioned and the term "with air" to me means it is has the brackets for 
  ac. 
  Larry 
  (Z) 


Re: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-08-01 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
Cecil:
Are you sure it comes with the ac compressor, alternator and water pump? No where can I find it mentioned and the term "with air" to me means it is has the brackets for ac.
 Larry (Z)


Re: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-08-01 Thread 65ss.com



Here's a better list of parts...
 
Click 
Here
 
Let me know if this works.  
GMParts Depot seems to have done a bit more 
homework.
For $778 that's a steal.  
If I end up having to run a Short Water Pump setup 
in my '65, I will easily have that much in a stock system with current market 
prices.  Especially since this has all of the pulley's, power steering 
pump, water pump, A/C compressor, and Alternator.
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Final one 
...
> Once in a while serpentine belts seem like a good idea and then I 
recover and forget about it!  ; )> I see Pace has reverse rotation 
pumps for small and big blocks.> Not even going to venture as to what 
works with what.> http://www.paceparts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=23719> > I wonder if a rebuilder could rebuild an 
original pump with the other impeller? (if that's all that's different)> 
> Think you have a problem?> Try to figure out how you're going to 
get the serpentine grooves onto your six cylinder balancer!> (which has 
the pulley grooves cut into it) > > > Pete Geurds> 
Douglassville, PA> > 


RE: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-08-01 Thread chevelle292wagon
Once in a while serpentine belts seem like a good idea and then I recover and forget 
about it!  ; )
I see Pace has reverse rotation pumps for small and big blocks.
Not even going to venture as to what works with what.
http://www.paceparts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=23719

I wonder if a rebuilder could rebuild an original pump with the other impeller? (if 
that's all that's different)

Think you have a problem?
Try to figure out how you're going to get the serpentine grooves onto your six 
cylinder balancer!
(which has the pulley grooves cut into it) 


Pete Geurds
Douglassville, PA




RE: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-07-31 Thread Cecil Martin
Typical business of today Dale, the PACE magazine ad was much better. I
can't find the system on GM's web site. I am sure it's there but they
didn't make it easy to find.

To answer your earlier comments about the reduction of water pump
efficiency, it wasn't something I could confirm. But I also couldn't
prove it wrong. A guy on Team Chevelle whom I trust when it comes to
cooling says it's so. That doesn't make it right or wrong, and I did see
somewhere else where it said the "fact" in question. I don't even
remember where now.

Rather than take a chance, if it's true I'll take the 20% more
efficiency.

However, if I had known this big block system was going to come out, I
would have had to think hard about the trade-offs of all of the time and
effort I had to put into making this system work.

The price from GM is at least half way reasonable...and about half of
what aftermarket systems are going for.or less.

Is there something backwards here? OK, it's probably not near as good
looking as the aftermarket serpentine systems...but maybe with a little
imagination and some paint. ?

 Steve


On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 22:29, Dale wrote:
> Not only no picture, but I love all the extra parts listed as well.  :-)
> 
> Dale  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cecil Martin
> > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 9:24 PM
> > To: The Chevelle Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...
> > 
> > Charles,
> >  GM just recently came out with a Big Block serpentine system.
> > One heck of a good deal too since it includes the A/C 
> > compressor, alternator and water pump along with brackets etc.
> >  
> > Check out with A/C for $779 at
> > http://www.paceperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P
> > rodID=26946
> > 
> > This one doesn't have A/C, but is still for a big block. It's 
> > so new that there's no pictures yet. 
> > 
> > http://www.paceperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P
> > rodID=26947
> > 
> > I am sure your local dealer and GMPartdirect.com would have them also.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 23:13, 65ss.com wrote:
> > > So do you have a parts list so I can add a GM serpentine 
> > system to my 502?
> > > 
> > > :)
> > > 
> > > Charles
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 




RE: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-07-31 Thread Dale
Not only no picture, but I love all the extra parts listed as well.  :-)

Dale  

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cecil Martin
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 9:24 PM
> To: The Chevelle Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...
> 
> Charles,
>  GM just recently came out with a Big Block serpentine system.
> One heck of a good deal too since it includes the A/C 
> compressor, alternator and water pump along with brackets etc.
>  
> Check out with A/C for $779 at
> http://www.paceperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P
> rodID=26946
> 
> This one doesn't have A/C, but is still for a big block. It's 
> so new that there's no pictures yet. 
> 
> http://www.paceperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P
> rodID=26947
> 
> I am sure your local dealer and GMPartdirect.com would have them also.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 23:13, 65ss.com wrote:
> > So do you have a parts list so I can add a GM serpentine 
> system to my 502?
> > 
> > :)
> > 
> > Charles
> 
> 
> 
> 




Re: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-07-31 Thread Cecil Martin
Charles,
 GM just recently came out with a Big Block serpentine system.
One heck of a good deal too since it includes the A/C compressor,
alternator and water pump along with brackets etc.
 
Check out with A/C for $779 at
http://www.paceperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=26946

This one doesn't have A/C, but is still for a big block. It's so new
that there's no pictures yet. 

http://www.paceperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=26947

I am sure your local dealer and GMPartdirect.com would have them also.





On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 23:13, 65ss.com wrote:
> So do you have a parts list so I can add a GM serpentine system to my 502?
> 
> :)
> 
> Charles





Re: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...

2004-07-30 Thread 65ss.com
So do you have a parts list so I can add a GM serpentine system to my 502?

:)

Charles
---
Check out my 502 powered '65 Malibu Super Sport Project
http://www.65ss.com

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From: "Cecil Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 9:57 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Final one ...


> This is a view from the passenger side:
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~csmartin33/images/pass%20side%202.jpg
> 
>   Steve
> 
>