Re: [Chevelle-List]Re: [Chevelle-List] 1968 w/ Tripoli Turquoise - how many made???
You know, in today's litigation prone society, you could probably find lawyers ready & willing to file such a suit! Don > > Josh, > > Lets go for it with the lawyer, we could also sue them for poor > handling and lack of aluminum blocks and roller cams hahahaha > > Anyway it would be interesting to get some info about our cars. > > André > > > > Craig, you touched on something that really makes me wonder about GM's > info. > > The warranty issues. Wouldn't they have to keep record for warranty an > d > > recall info? What about the Older Chevy trucks which a few years ago G > M > > conceded could explode due to the saddle mount gas tanks? They had to > > contact those owners who currently had those trucks. My buddy had rece > ntly > > bought a 77? Chevy pickup. He got a letter from GM offering a rebate o > n a > > new GM truck, according to him. Now there is no way he was the origina > l > > owner, yet GM was able to contact him. The only way I can see this is > > possible is to run VIN's for current owners of these vehicles. How is > it > > possible that they had the info for these trucks but not for our cars? > I > > fully understnd and realize the volumes of info they must have as you > > mentioned, but it has got to be around somewhere? Gm canada and Pontia > c > > historical society have gotten it. Was it magic? Just a thought > > Maybe we should all initiate a class action lawsuit for the rear windo > ws and > > lower fenders rotting out on our cars. They all did it right from the > > factory due to leaky rear window seals, right? We could argue that it > was a > > critical design flaw and we should be compensated. Maybe if we had the > > lawsuit and won a settlement, GM would be forced to find the records t > o > > contact all current Chevelle owners??? > > Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com > > - Original Message - > > From: "Craig A. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:52 AM > > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 1968 w/ Tripoli Turquoise - > how many made??? > > > > > > > > > > I think part of the problem GM has with the data from the 60's and 7 > 0's is > > > the recordkeeping systems in place at that time. That era used IBM p > unch > > > cards for input and magnetic tape for long term storage. No Windows, > no > > > email, no nothing. In order to review the info, you had to write an > > > "Easytrieve" program and print it out. A lot of those records are/w > ere > > kept > > > only to address disagreements with the IRS. I know this because I on > ce was > > > responsible for the EDP audits for a number of GM operating units an > d am > > > very familiar with their systems from the early 80's onward. I was t > he > > poor > > > sap writing the Easytrieve code... > > > > > > So, a lot of the records we would love to see were never converted f > rom > > > their old format to modern formats. It's worthwhile to consider what > an > > > expensive task that would be and that they would never spend the mon > ey on > > it > > > unless they were forced to (as in an IRS issue). Also, we are talkin > g > > about > > > MOUNTAINS of information - > not just build stats but warranty claims (which > > > are all tracked by VIN) for millions and millions of cars over decad > es. > > And > > > all of this information is "comingled". It's not like there is one t > ape > > out > > > there somewhere with a summary of the build data on it. Considering > the > > > quantity, it's amazing they bother to retain any info at all. Also, > it is > > > entirely possible the mag tapes they wrote the data out on for stora > ge > > > simply deteriorated and became unreadable. This is a common problem. > These > > > tapes are often stored, literally, in caverns tunneled out of mounta > ins in > > > Utah, etc. No kidding - > I've been there. They put the tapes in and forget > > > about them for twenty years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: [Chevelle-List] 1968 w/ Tripoli Turquoise - how many made???
I realize that was a little extreme, but I was just trying to make a point. Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:48 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Re: [Chevelle-List] 1968 w/ Tripoli Turquoise - how many made??? > Josh, Lets go for it with the lawyer, we could also sue them for poor handling and lack of aluminum blocks and roller cams hahahaha Anyway it would be interesting to get some info about our cars. André > Craig, you touched on something that really makes me wonder about GM's info. > The warranty issues. Wouldn't they have to keep record for warranty an d > recall info? What about the Older Chevy trucks which a few years ago G M > conceded could explode due to the saddle mount gas tanks? They had to > contact those owners who currently had those trucks. My buddy had rece ntly > bought a 77? Chevy pickup. He got a letter from GM offering a rebate o n a > new GM truck, according to him. Now there is no way he was the origina l > owner, yet GM was able to contact him. The only way I can see this is > possible is to run VIN's for current owners of these vehicles. How is it > possible that they had the info for these trucks but not for our cars? I > fully understnd and realize the volumes of info they must have as you > mentioned, but it has got to be around somewhere? Gm canada and Pontia c > historical society have gotten it. Was it magic? Just a thought > Maybe we should all initiate a class action lawsuit for the rear windo ws and > lower fenders rotting out on our cars. They all did it right from the > factory due to leaky rear window seals, right? We could argue that it was a > critical design flaw and we should be compensated. Maybe if we had the > lawsuit and won a settlement, GM would be forced to find the records t o > contact all current Chevelle owners??? > Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com > - Original Message - > From: "Craig A. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:52 AM > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 1968 w/ Tripoli Turquoise - how many made??? > > > > > > I think part of the problem GM has with the data from the 60's and 7 0's is > > the recordkeeping systems in place at that time. That era used IBM p unch > > cards for input and magnetic tape for long term storage. No Windows, no > > email, no nothing. In order to review the info, you had to write an > > "Easytrieve" program and print it out. A lot of those records are/w ere > kept > > only to address disagreements with the IRS. I know this because I on ce was > > responsible for the EDP audits for a number of GM operating units an d am > > very familiar with their systems from the early 80's onward. I was t he > poor > > sap writing the Easytrieve code... > > > > So, a lot of the records we would love to see were never converted f rom > > their old format to modern formats. It's worthwhile to consider what an > > expensive task that would be and that they would never spend the mon ey on > it > > unless they were forced to (as in an IRS issue). Also, we are talkin g > about > > MOUNTAINS of information - not just build stats but warranty claims (which > > are all tracked by VIN) for millions and millions of cars over decad es. > And > > all of this information is "comingled". It's not like there is one t ape > out > > there somewhere with a summary of the build data on it. Considering the > > quantity, it's amazing they bother to retain any info at all. Also, it is > > entirely possible the mag tapes they wrote the data out on for stora ge > > simply deteriorated and became unreadable. This is a common problem. These > > tapes are often stored, literally, in caverns tunneled out of mounta ins in > > Utah, etc. No kidding - I've been there. They put the tapes in and forget > > about them for twenty years. > > > > > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] RE: [Chevelle-List] Do people have anything against SS clones???
I mean between the taillights. Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] RE: [Chevelle-List] Do people have anything against SS clones??? > I guess the black painted area behind the rear taillights, but I'm not > sure. > > André > > > I had the same question when I read this post. Thanks for asking, Cha > d. > > > > Brenna > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chad Playso > > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:38 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Do people have anything against SS > > clones??? > > > > > > > > what do you mean? what is it missing? > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:17 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Do people have anything against SS > > clones??? > > > > > > > > anything is always worth a look even though that partcular 68 clone is > > missing something a real 68 SS396 had > > > > Tom > > > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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the thing i see missing is that the rocker panel area is supposed to be painted black on 1968 SS cars, they also have a specific rocker molding that goes down there Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This has been on this list a few times and, no, Ted Nugent didn't write it although he has stated he agrees with it. http://www.tnugent.com/news/10042001.shtml Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com > > > This pretty much sums it up for me. Wish I had wrote it but I think Ted > Nudget did. > > I'm a Bad American. This pretty much sums it up for me. I like big trucks, > big boats, big houses, and naturally, pretty women. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Couldn't have said it better! Rock On Josh Campbell wrote: > All I got to say (pardon the swear but its the only thing in my little mind > right now) HELL YEAH!!! > Josh > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: Chevelle-List PASS THIS ON > >Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 18:58:01 EDT > > > > > >In a message dated 5/4/02 1:14:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > >> > I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending > > >some > > >> > individual or their culture. Since > > >> > the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in > > >> > patriotism by the majority of Americans. > > >> > However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the > > >> > "politically correct" crowd began complaining > > >> > about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. > > >> > > > >> > I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone > > >who > > >> > is seeking a better life by coming > > >> > to America. Our population is almost entirely composed of > >descendants > > >of > > >> > immigrants. However, there are a few > > >> > things that those who have recently come to our country, and > >apparently > > >> > some born here, need to understand. This > > >> > idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to > > >> > dilute our sovereignty and our national > > >> > identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, > > >our > > >> > own language and our own lifestyle. > > >> > > > >> > This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, > > >and > > >> > victories by millions of men and > > >> > women who have sought freedom. We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, > >Arabic, > > >> > Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or > > >> > any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our > > >> > society, learn the language! > > >> > > > >> > "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, > > >> > right wing, political slogan. We > > >> > adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian > > >> > principles, founded this nation, > > >> > and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to > >display > > >it > > >> > on the walls of our schools. > > >> > If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the > > >world > > >> > as your new home, > > >> > because God is part of our culture. > > >> > > > >> > If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then > > >you > > >> > should seriously consider a > > >> > move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture > > >and > > >> > have no desire to change, > > >> > and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. > > >> > > > >> > This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First > >Amendment > > >> > gives every citizen the right > > >> > to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to > > >do so > > >> > ONLY after you become a citizen. > > >> > But, once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our > > >flag, > > >> > our pledge, our national motto, > > >> > or our way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one > > >> > other great American freedom, > > >> > THE RIGHT TO LEAVE. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Please pass this along if you agree. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >absodanglutely > > > > > > > > > > > >> ONLY IN FLORIDA --- LAND > > >OF TERRORIST 'S > > >> > > >> > > >> After hearing that the state of Florida changed its opinion > > >and let a > > >> Muslim woman have her picture on > > >> her drivers license with her face covered, I believe this > > >is even more > > >> appropriate. \ > > >> > > >> Read on, please! ...This is an Editorial written by an American > > >> citizen, published in a Tampa Newspaper. > > >> He did quite a job; didn't he?? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >- > >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: Chevelle-List PASS THIS ON
All I got to say (pardon the swear but its the only thing in my little mind right now) HELL YEAH!!! Josh >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: Chevelle-List PASS THIS ON >Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 18:58:01 EDT > > >In a message dated 5/4/02 1:14:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >> > I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending > >some > >> > individual or their culture. Since > >> > the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in > >> > patriotism by the majority of Americans. > >> > However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the > >> > "politically correct" crowd began complaining > >> > about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. > >> > > >> > I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone > >who > >> > is seeking a better life by coming > >> > to America. Our population is almost entirely composed of >descendants > >of > >> > immigrants. However, there are a few > >> > things that those who have recently come to our country, and >apparently > >> > some born here, need to understand. This > >> > idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to > >> > dilute our sovereignty and our national > >> > identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, > >our > >> > own language and our own lifestyle. > >> > > >> > This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, > >and > >> > victories by millions of men and > >> > women who have sought freedom. We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, >Arabic, > >> > Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or > >> > any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our > >> > society, learn the language! > >> > > >> > "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, > >> > right wing, political slogan. We > >> > adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian > >> > principles, founded this nation, > >> > and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to >display > >it > >> > on the walls of our schools. > >> > If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the > >world > >> > as your new home, > >> > because God is part of our culture. > >> > > >> > If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then > >you > >> > should seriously consider a > >> > move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture > >and > >> > have no desire to change, > >> > and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. > >> > > >> > This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First >Amendment > >> > gives every citizen the right > >> > to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to > >do so > >> > ONLY after you become a citizen. > >> > But, once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our > >flag, > >> > our pledge, our national motto, > >> > or our way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one > >> > other great American freedom, > >> > THE RIGHT TO LEAVE. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Please pass this along if you agree. > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >absodanglutely > > > > > > > >> ONLY IN FLORIDA --- LAND > >OF TERRORIST 'S > >> > >> > >> After hearing that the state of Florida changed its opinion > >and let a > >> Muslim woman have her picture on > >> her drivers license with her face covered, I believe this > >is even more > >> appropriate. \ > >> > >> Read on, please! ...This is an Editorial written by an American > >> citizen, published in a Tampa Newspaper. > >> He did quite a job; didn't he?? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Re: Chevelle-List PASS THIS ON
d and spank his butt and say "NO!" when it's necessary to do so. I'll admit that the only movie that ever made me cry was Ole Yeller. I didn't realize Dr. Seuss was a genius until I had a kid. I will not be frowned upon or be looked down upon or be made to keep silent because I have these beliefs and opinions. I thought this country allowed me that right. I will not conform or compromise just to keep from hurting somebody's feelings. I'm neither angry nor disenfranchised, no matter how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to believe otherwise. Yes, I guess by some people's definition, I may be a bad American. But that's tough. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablo Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: Chevelle-List PASS THIS ON Passing this along to you Cousin. I am not trying to fuel an argument or anything but I think this could be considered as a Patriot's view of a few things. I would support this Americanism'ism. I think the America that immigrates built in the last century and a half was based on the Constitution and a belief in God and a desire to be American. I guess I see my self as Christian American Patriot and I pay my dues; have all my life. When people are upset because some are being hassled because of their ethnic appearance or are being put through terrible ordeals in the name of National Security maybe they should think of the young men who were drafted for two or more years in to the U.S. military to fight in Viet Nam. That is just one of the costs of freedom I can think of. My $ .02 worth. Paul - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: Chevelle-List PASS THIS ON
In a message dated 5/4/02 1:14:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> > I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending >some >> > individual or their culture. Since >> > the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in >> > patriotism by the majority of Americans. >> > However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the >> > "politically correct" crowd began complaining >> > about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. >> > >> > I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone >who >> > is seeking a better life by coming >> > to America. Our population is almost entirely composed of descendants >of >> > immigrants. However, there are a few >> > things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently >> > some born here, need to understand. This >> > idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to >> > dilute our sovereignty and our national >> > identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, >our >> > own language and our own lifestyle. >> > >> > This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, >and >> > victories by millions of men and >> > women who have sought freedom. We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Arabic, >> > Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or >> > any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our >> > society, learn the language! >> > >> > "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, >> > right wing, political slogan. We >> > adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian >> > principles, founded this nation, >> > and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display >it >> > on the walls of our schools. >> > If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the >world >> > as your new home, >> > because God is part of our culture. >> > >> > If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then >you >> > should seriously consider a >> > move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture >and >> > have no desire to change, >> > and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. >> > >> > This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment >> > gives every citizen the right >> > to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to >do so >> > ONLY after you become a citizen. >> > But, once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our >flag, >> > our pledge, our national motto, >> > or our way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one >> > other great American freedom, >> > THE RIGHT TO LEAVE. >> > >> > >> > >> > Please pass this along if you agree. >> > >> > >> > > > >absodanglutely > > > >> ONLY IN FLORIDA --- LAND >OF TERRORIST 'S >> >> >> After hearing that the state of Florida changed its opinion >and let a >> Muslim woman have her picture on >> her drivers license with her face covered, I believe this >is even more >> appropriate. \ >> >> Read on, please! ...This is an Editorial written by an American >> citizen, published in a Tampa Newspaper. >> He did quite a job; didn't he?? >> >> >> >> - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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absodanglutely > ONLY IN FLORIDA --- LAND OF TERRORIST 'S > > > After hearing that the state of Florida changed its opinion and let a > Muslim woman have her picture on > her drivers license with her face covered, I believe this is even more > appropriate. \ > > Read on, please! ...This is an Editorial written by an American > citizen, published in a Tampa Newspaper. > He did quite a job; didn't he?? > > > > > IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS, MUST ADAPT. > > I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some > individual or their culture. Since > the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in > patriotism by the majority of Americans. > However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the > "politically correct" crowd began complaining > about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. > > I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who > is seeking a better life by coming > to America. Our population is almost entirely composed of descendants of > immigrants. However, there are a few > things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently > some born here, need to understand. This > idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to > dilute our sovereignty and our national > identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our > own language and our own lifestyle. > > This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and > victories by millions of men and > women who have sought freedom. We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Arabic, > Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or > any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our > society, learn the language! > > "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, > right wing, political slogan. We > adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian > principles, founded this nation, > and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it > on the walls of our schools. > If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world > as your new home, > because God is part of our culture. > > If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you > should seriously consider a > move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and > have no desire to change, > and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. > > This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment > gives every citizen the right > to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do so > ONLY after you become a citizen. > But, once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, > our pledge, our national motto, > or our way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one > other great American freedom, > THE RIGHT TO LEAVE. > > > > Please pass this along if you agree. > >
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i'd vote for that. Rob Means "be good,if not,be good at it [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Mike DeLong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:23 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Re: Chevelle-List PASS THIS ON > ONLY IN FLORIDA --- LAND OF TERRORIST 'S > > > After hearing that the state of Florida changed its opinion and let a > Muslim woman have her picture on > her drivers license with her face covered, I believe this is even more > appropriate. \ > > Read on, please! ...This is an Editorial written by an American > citizen, published in a Tampa Newspaper. > He did quite a job; didn't he?? > > > > > IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS, MUST ADAPT. > > I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some > individual or their culture. Since > the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in > patriotism by the majority of Americans. > However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the > "politically correct" crowd began complaining > about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. > > I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who > is seeking a better life by coming > to America. Our population is almost entirely composed of descendants of > immigrants. However, there are a few > things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently > some born here, need to understand. This > idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to > dilute our sovereignty and our national > identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our > own language and our own lifestyle. > > This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and > victories by millions of men and > women who have sought freedom. We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Arabic, > Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or > any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our > society, learn the language! > > "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, > right wing, political slogan. We > adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian > principles, founded this nation, > and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it > on the walls of our schools. > If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world > as your new home, > because God is part of our culture. > > If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you > should seriously consider a > move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and > have no desire to change, > and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. > > This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment > gives every citizen the right > to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do so > ONLY after you become a citizen. > But, once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, > our pledge, our national motto, > or our way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one > other great American freedom, > THE RIGHT TO LEAVE. > > > > Please pass this along if you agree. > > > > > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Passing this along to you Cousin. I am not trying to fuel an argument or anything but I think this could be considered as a Patriot's view of a few things. I would support this Americanism'ism. I think the America that immigrates built in the last century and a half was based on the Constitution and a belief in God and a desire to be American. I guess I see my self as Christian American Patriot and I pay my dues; have all my life. When people are upset because some are being hassled because of their ethnic appearance or are being put through terrible ordeals in the name of National Security maybe they should think of the young men who were drafted for two or more years in to the U.S. military to fight in Viet Nam. That is just one of the costs of freedom I can think of. My $ .02 worth. Paul - Original Message - From: "Mike DeLong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 12:23 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Re: Chevelle-List PASS THIS ON > ONLY IN FLORIDA --- LAND OF TERRORIST 'S > > > After hearing that the state of Florida changed its opinion and let a > Muslim woman have her picture on > her drivers license with her face covered, I believe this is even more > appropriate. \ > > Read on, please! ...This is an Editorial written by an American > citizen, published in a Tampa Newspaper. > He did quite a job; didn't he?? > > > > > IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS, MUST ADAPT. > > I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some > individual or their culture. Since > the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in > patriotism by the majority of Americans. > However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the > "politically correct" crowd began complaining > about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. > > I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who > is seeking a better life by coming > to America. Our population is almost entirely composed of descendants of > immigrants. However, there are a few > things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently > some born here, need to understand. This > idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to > dilute our sovereignty and our national > identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our > own language and our own lifestyle. > > This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and > victories by millions of men and > women who have sought freedom. We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Arabic, > Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or > any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our > society, learn the language! > > "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, > right wing, political slogan. We > adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian > principles, founded this nation, > and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it > on the walls of our schools. > If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world > as your new home, > because God is part of our culture. > > If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you > should seriously consider a > move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and > have no desire to change, > and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. > > This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment > gives every citizen the right > to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do so > ONLY after you become a citizen. > But, once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, > our pledge, our national motto, > or our way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one > other great American freedom, > THE RIGHT TO LEAVE. > > > > Please pass this along if you agree. > > > > > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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AMEN !! Coudn't have said it better. Mark
[Chevelle-List] Re: [Chevelle-List] RE: [Chevelle-List] Gellért's 66 Chevelle
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List SAE gross horsepower: A production engine's actual power available at the flywheel or output shaft (usually crankshaft) as tested with an absorption dynamometer. It differs from SAE net horsepower in that many of the accessories (such as alternator, water pump, etc.) are not attached. Engines before 1973 were primarily measured with these "gross" numbers. Since 1973, "net" figures were published. This confusion caused many people to suppose that their engine had been seriously de-tuned when they saw that the same engine in 1972 had 400 hp but in 1973 had only 235 hp. (This example is from the Cadillac 500 cubic inch engine). Compare SAE net horsepower. Also see brake horsepower and horsepower. SAE net horsepower: The brake power (power available at the flywheel or output shaft -- usually the crankshaft) of a fully equipped engine fitted with all the accessories necessary to perform its intended functions unaided. In 1973, automobile manufacturers began publishing their engine specifications in "net" horsepower and "net" torque instead of "gross" figures. In many cases the published numbers were significantly lower in 1973 than in 1972. Some of the decrease was attributed to the addition of pollution equipment, the lowering of compression, and the use of regular unleaded gasoline instead of premium leaded fuel. However most of the decrease in number was a switch to "net" figures. Compare SAE gross horsepower. Also see brake horsepower and horsepower. - Original Message - From: "Dave Studly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] RE: [Chevelle-List] Gellért's 66 Chevelle > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > A couple things changed. Compression dropped in 1971, lowering HP, and > starting in 1972 (I think), engines were rated in SAE Net HP, opposed to the > old rating of SAE Gross HP. Someone correct me if this is wrong, but I > believe: > > SAE Gross HP: Measured at the flywheel. Not all accessories are > neccessarily operating. Dyno headers possible. Probably similar to dyno at > your local machine shop. > > SAE Net HP: Measured at the back of the transmission, with exhaust hooked up > and all accessories operating. > > > -Dave, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > HP ratings did drop in the early 1970s because of all the anti-pollution > > stuff being added to the motors. AFAIK, the way horsepower ratings are > > determined also changed at some point. I don't know much about > > that since I > > never buy or work on anything newer than 1970. > > > > Good luck, > > John Nasta > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: [Chevelle-List} Need help to I.D.
thanks for the input Larry! greg
Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: [Chevelle-List} Need help to I.D.
Greg: 3834947 is for CHEVELLES 1965 283/ 195 & 220 HP 1965 327 / 250 , 300 & 350 HP AND 1966 283 / 195 ND 220 W/O A.I.R & 327,275 & 350 HP W/O A.I.R. according to Chevrolet by the numbers it was used in previous model years but they do not state which years. Chevrolet parts interchange manual shows a part number 3892679 64-68 chevelle and Camaro but Chevrolet by the numbers shows that manifold for 67 and 68 Camaro and chevelle small blocks. The two do look quite a bit alike. ADP Hollander for 64-72 chevelle show 3834947 and 3892679 interchangeable Larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: [Chevelle-List} Need help to I.D.
thanks kevin. greg
Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: [Chevelle-List} Need help to I.D.
Well my book has it as a 1967 283 V8 hope this helps. Kevin Lester
