Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light

2002-12-14 Thread Mike Smith
Dan and Tom.   I've owned many a chevelle and the 283 called for a 180
degree Thermostat. If your temp goes over 200 you could have boiling and
steam, this a warning to stop and let your enigine cool down. We use to
leave the engine running and spray water into the front of the Radiator
until she cooled down enough to get the Rad. cap off (NEVER add water to a
HOT engine with the motor turned OFF, This will surely crack you block),
covering the cap to keep from getting yourself burnt, then we would add
water to top her off. You reach the 220 mark and you've cooked the head
gasket and probably cracked a head as well. Hope this will help, Smitty in
SC
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From: "Dan McIntosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light


> How about a brass t-fitting in the port?
> I think around 200 is normal operating temp, and 220 is really bad. My
> Impala runs around 195 most of the time, but then again I don't drive it
in
> Arizona!!
>
> Dan McIntosh
> 64 Impala SS
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Moebes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:29 PM
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
>
>
> > Group,
> >
> > I recently installed a temperature gauge in my 1966 El Camino so I could
> see
> > how hideously hot it was getting in the Tucson heat this last summer.
> > (Funny, the vehicle was fine up in the Pacific Northwest.)
> >
> > As you know, the temperature port for this early vehicle is located in
the
> > intake manifold adjacent to the thermostat housing. It does not have a
> > temperature sensor in the heads like later models.
> >
> > Not seeing another available port, I simply disconnected the wire for
the
> > temperature light and left it for another day. Is there a solution that
> will
> > allow both the gauge and light to function on this vehicle? There does
not
> > seem to be another available port.
> >
> > There is a smaller-diameter plug toward the back of the manifold in
front
> of
> > the distributor. Does anybody know if this is an oil or vacuum fitting?
> Any
> > advice or suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> > A second question: How hot is too hot for sustained driving in the
desert
> > heat? I installed a larger radiator which has greatly increased the
> > vehicle's cooling capacity, but I would like to know the opinions of the
> > group as to what temperature is really safe. The engine is a smooth but
> poky
> > 283 4-bbl originally rated at 225HP. It was rebuilt in the late 80s
> without
> > any performance pieces.
> >
> > Thanks, gents.
> >
> > Tim Moebes
> >
> >
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Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light

2002-12-13 Thread Dan McIntosh
65 to 70 in the winter?
Boy do you have it rough.. its about 26 degrees here now, actually kinda
warm compared to what we've had lately.
No, me and Dale aren't related, but I did see a picture of his car
once...
Take it easy...

Dan McIntosh
64 Impala SS



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From: "Tim Moebes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light


> Hi Dan,
>
> You wrote: "I was thinking pressure, in which case it wouldn't matter."
>
> Right. And I plan to do just that when I connect the oil pressure gauge.
The
> T won't affect the reading there.
>
> BTW, I put in an aluminum crossflow rad at the tail end of the hot season,
> and it certainly helped, but when it is 95 or 100 degrees out things get
> hot. And it's hard to use newer cars as a comparison, because they seem to
> run warmer, with their insensitive temp gauges and fans not set to come on
> until 225 or so. Somehow, I wouldn't think 220 is too hot in that kind of
> extreme heat, but I stand to be corrected.
>
> It's winter here now and temps are more moderate (65 to 70), so I won't
> really be able to tell if I totally fixed the problem until next May or
June
> when it hits 100 again. Interestingly, this seems to be the time of year
> when the cars come out. It's summer when they are tucked away! This is my
> first year here so I am adapting. :-)
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Tim
>
> PS: Are you and Dale related?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan McIntosh
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 4:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
>
>
> True,
> for some reason, when I typed that reply, I was thinking pressure, in
which
> case it wouldn't matter. Sorry.
>
> Dan McIntosh
> 64 Impala SS
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Moebes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:31 PM
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
>
>
> > Thanks for the reply.
> >
> > I'm not certain there would be sufficient coolant flowing around the
> sensor
> > with a T-fitting for a responsive reading.
> >
> > Tim.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan McIntosh
> > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:56 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
> >
> >
> > How about a brass t-fitting in the port?
> > I think around 200 is normal operating temp, and 220 is really bad. My
> > Impala runs around 195 most of the time, but then again I don't drive it
> in
> > Arizona!!
> >
> > Dan McIntosh
> > 64 Impala SS
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tim Moebes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:29 PM
> > Subject: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
> >
> >
> > > Group,
> > >
> > > I recently installed a temperature gauge in my 1966 El Camino so I
could
> > see
> > > how hideously hot it was getting in the Tucson heat this last summer.
> > > (Funny, the vehicle was fine up in the Pacific Northwest.)
> > >
> > > As you know, the temperature port for this early vehicle is located in
> the
> > > intake manifold adjacent to the thermostat housing. It does not have a
> > > temperature sensor in the heads like later models.
> > >
> > > Not seeing another available port, I simply disconnected the wire for
> the
> > > temperature light and left it for another day. Is there a solution
that
> > will
> > > allow both the gauge and light to function on this vehicle? There does
> not
> > > seem to be another available port.
> > >
> > > There is a smaller-diameter plug toward the back of the manifold in
> front
> > of
> > > the distributor. Does anybody know if this is an oil or vacuum
fitting?
> > Any
> > > advice or suggestions would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > A second question: How hot is too hot for sustained driving in the
> desert
> > > heat? I installed a larger radiator which has greatly increased the
> > > vehicle's cooling capacity, but I would like to know the opinions

RE: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light

2002-12-13 Thread Tim Moebes
Thanks, Dean and Dale.

I knew this group would be able to quickly direct me to a solution for the
fitting.

Best regards,
Tim

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Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light


If you can't find the thermostat housing with the fitting, later model
Chevrolet (maybe trucks) had them, you can get a spacer from someone
like http://www.flatlanderracing.com/mezierenecks.html for $25.  It
essentially lifts the water outlet housing up about 2" and has threaded
holes for fittings.  Designed to allow you to run cooling lines to the
back corners of the intake, but you could just as easily run two water
temp senders.  I bought one similar (mine has 4 holes) when I thought
I'd have to plug the intake to heater hole due to lack of space.  Turned
out I didn't need it but I'm holding it for just such an occasion as
yours...wanting/needing two water temp sender locations.  Granted it
places the sender ABOVE the thermostat so it'd measure temp of the water
in the top hose before the stat opens, but that shouldn't last more than
a couple of miles to get up to operating temp (put the stock sender
there).

If you only use one hole, simply get a plug for the other.

Dale McIntosh
TC Gold #92/ACES #1709
67SS/67 Elky
Dale's Place
Team 67
Midwest Chevelles


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Moebes
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
>
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> I'm not certain there would be sufficient coolant flowing
> around the sensor with a T-fitting for a responsive reading.
>
> Tim.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan McIntosh
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
>
>
> How about a brass t-fitting in the port?
> I think around 200 is normal operating temp, and 220 is
> really bad. My Impala runs around 195 most of the time, but
> then again I don't drive it in Arizona!!
>
> Dan McIntosh
> 64 Impala SS
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Moebes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:29 PM
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
>
>
> > Group,
> >
> > I recently installed a temperature gauge in my 1966 El Camino so I
> > could
> see
> > how hideously hot it was getting in the Tucson heat this
> last summer.
> > (Funny, the vehicle was fine up in the Pacific Northwest.)
> >
> > As you know, the temperature port for this early vehicle is
> located in
> > the intake manifold adjacent to the thermostat housing. It does not
> > have a temperature sensor in the heads like later models.
> >
> > Not seeing another available port, I simply disconnected
> the wire for
> > the temperature light and left it for another day. Is there
> a solution
> > that
> will
> > allow both the gauge and light to function on this vehicle?
> There does
> > not seem to be another available port.
> >
> > There is a smaller-diameter plug toward the back of the manifold in
> > front
> of
> > the distributor. Does anybody know if this is an oil or vacuum
> > fitting?
> Any
> > advice or suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> > A second question: How hot is too hot for sustained driving in the
> > desert heat? I installed a larger radiator which has
> greatly increased
> > the vehicle's cooling capacity, but I would like to know
> the opinions
> > of the group as to what temperature is really safe. The engine is a
> > smooth but
> poky
> > 283 4-bbl originally rated at 225HP. It was rebuilt in the late 80s
> without
> > any performance pieces.
> >
> > Thanks, gents.
> >
> > Tim Moebes
> >
> >
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RE: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light

2002-12-13 Thread Tim Moebes
Hi Dan,

You wrote: "I was thinking pressure, in which case it wouldn't matter."

Right. And I plan to do just that when I connect the oil pressure gauge. The
T won't affect the reading there.

BTW, I put in an aluminum crossflow rad at the tail end of the hot season,
and it certainly helped, but when it is 95 or 100 degrees out things get
hot. And it's hard to use newer cars as a comparison, because they seem to
run warmer, with their insensitive temp gauges and fans not set to come on
until 225 or so. Somehow, I wouldn't think 220 is too hot in that kind of
extreme heat, but I stand to be corrected.

It's winter here now and temps are more moderate (65 to 70), so I won't
really be able to tell if I totally fixed the problem until next May or June
when it hits 100 again. Interestingly, this seems to be the time of year
when the cars come out. It's summer when they are tucked away! This is my
first year here so I am adapting. :-)

Thanks again.

Tim

PS: Are you and Dale related?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan McIntosh
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 4:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light


True,
for some reason, when I typed that reply, I was thinking pressure, in which
case it wouldn't matter. Sorry.

Dan McIntosh
64 Impala SS


- Original Message -
From: "Tim Moebes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light


> Thanks for the reply.
>
> I'm not certain there would be sufficient coolant flowing around the
sensor
> with a T-fitting for a responsive reading.
>
> Tim.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan McIntosh
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
>
>
> How about a brass t-fitting in the port?
> I think around 200 is normal operating temp, and 220 is really bad. My
> Impala runs around 195 most of the time, but then again I don't drive it
in
> Arizona!!
>
> Dan McIntosh
> 64 Impala SS
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Moebes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:29 PM
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
>
>
> > Group,
> >
> > I recently installed a temperature gauge in my 1966 El Camino so I could
> see
> > how hideously hot it was getting in the Tucson heat this last summer.
> > (Funny, the vehicle was fine up in the Pacific Northwest.)
> >
> > As you know, the temperature port for this early vehicle is located in
the
> > intake manifold adjacent to the thermostat housing. It does not have a
> > temperature sensor in the heads like later models.
> >
> > Not seeing another available port, I simply disconnected the wire for
the
> > temperature light and left it for another day. Is there a solution that
> will
> > allow both the gauge and light to function on this vehicle? There does
not
> > seem to be another available port.
> >
> > There is a smaller-diameter plug toward the back of the manifold in
front
> of
> > the distributor. Does anybody know if this is an oil or vacuum fitting?
> Any
> > advice or suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> > A second question: How hot is too hot for sustained driving in the
desert
> > heat? I installed a larger radiator which has greatly increased the
> > vehicle's cooling capacity, but I would like to know the opinions of the
> > group as to what temperature is really safe. The engine is a smooth but
> poky
> > 283 4-bbl originally rated at 225HP. It was rebuilt in the late 80s
> without
> > any performance pieces.
> >
> > Thanks, gents.
> >
> > Tim Moebes
> >
> >
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Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light

2002-12-13 Thread Dan McIntosh
True,
for some reason, when I typed that reply, I was thinking pressure, in which
case it wouldn't matter. Sorry.

Dan McIntosh
64 Impala SS


- Original Message -
From: "Tim Moebes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light


> Thanks for the reply.
>
> I'm not certain there would be sufficient coolant flowing around the
sensor
> with a T-fitting for a responsive reading.
>
> Tim.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan McIntosh
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
>
>
> How about a brass t-fitting in the port?
> I think around 200 is normal operating temp, and 220 is really bad. My
> Impala runs around 195 most of the time, but then again I don't drive it
in
> Arizona!!
>
> Dan McIntosh
> 64 Impala SS
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Moebes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:29 PM
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
>
>
> > Group,
> >
> > I recently installed a temperature gauge in my 1966 El Camino so I could
> see
> > how hideously hot it was getting in the Tucson heat this last summer.
> > (Funny, the vehicle was fine up in the Pacific Northwest.)
> >
> > As you know, the temperature port for this early vehicle is located in
the
> > intake manifold adjacent to the thermostat housing. It does not have a
> > temperature sensor in the heads like later models.
> >
> > Not seeing another available port, I simply disconnected the wire for
the
> > temperature light and left it for another day. Is there a solution that
> will
> > allow both the gauge and light to function on this vehicle? There does
not
> > seem to be another available port.
> >
> > There is a smaller-diameter plug toward the back of the manifold in
front
> of
> > the distributor. Does anybody know if this is an oil or vacuum fitting?
> Any
> > advice or suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> > A second question: How hot is too hot for sustained driving in the
desert
> > heat? I installed a larger radiator which has greatly increased the
> > vehicle's cooling capacity, but I would like to know the opinions of the
> > group as to what temperature is really safe. The engine is a smooth but
> poky
> > 283 4-bbl originally rated at 225HP. It was rebuilt in the late 80s
> without
> > any performance pieces.
> >
> > Thanks, gents.
> >
> > Tim Moebes
> >
> >
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Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light

2002-12-13 Thread HarKemAsso
Tim, could you put a "t" in the manifold and put both sensors in it??

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RE: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light

2002-12-13 Thread Dale McIntosh
Mine hasn't run that warm since I added the air but before I went to the
current aluminum radiator.  I'm not a cooling expert, but even NASCAR
motors like to run in the 220-235 range...course that's at 180mph for
500 miles. :*)  I wouldn't worry if the standard temp ran in the 200-210
range at sustained speeds, but it's the cooling capability when you slow
down in traffic.  Will it stay in that range without going up very
quickly and will it cool back down to that once underway again?

Dale 

> I think around 200 is normal operating temp, and 220 is 
> really bad. 


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RE: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light

2002-12-13 Thread Dale McIntosh
If you can't find the thermostat housing with the fitting, later model
Chevrolet (maybe trucks) had them, you can get a spacer from someone
like http://www.flatlanderracing.com/mezierenecks.html for $25.  It
essentially lifts the water outlet housing up about 2" and has threaded
holes for fittings.  Designed to allow you to run cooling lines to the
back corners of the intake, but you could just as easily run two water
temp senders.  I bought one similar (mine has 4 holes) when I thought
I'd have to plug the intake to heater hole due to lack of space.  Turned
out I didn't need it but I'm holding it for just such an occasion as
yours...wanting/needing two water temp sender locations.  Granted it
places the sender ABOVE the thermostat so it'd measure temp of the water
in the top hose before the stat opens, but that shouldn't last more than
a couple of miles to get up to operating temp (put the stock sender
there).

If you only use one hole, simply get a plug for the other.

Dale McIntosh
TC Gold #92/ACES #1709
67SS/67 Elky
Dale's Place
Team 67
Midwest Chevelles


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Moebes
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
> 
> 
> Thanks for the reply.
> 
> I'm not certain there would be sufficient coolant flowing 
> around the sensor with a T-fitting for a responsive reading.
> 
> Tim.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan McIntosh
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
> 
> 
> How about a brass t-fitting in the port?
> I think around 200 is normal operating temp, and 220 is 
> really bad. My Impala runs around 195 most of the time, but 
> then again I don't drive it in Arizona!!
> 
> Dan McIntosh
> 64 Impala SS
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Moebes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:29 PM
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light
> 
> 
> > Group,
> >
> > I recently installed a temperature gauge in my 1966 El Camino so I 
> > could
> see
> > how hideously hot it was getting in the Tucson heat this 
> last summer. 
> > (Funny, the vehicle was fine up in the Pacific Northwest.)
> >
> > As you know, the temperature port for this early vehicle is 
> located in 
> > the intake manifold adjacent to the thermostat housing. It does not 
> > have a temperature sensor in the heads like later models.
> >
> > Not seeing another available port, I simply disconnected 
> the wire for 
> > the temperature light and left it for another day. Is there 
> a solution 
> > that
> will
> > allow both the gauge and light to function on this vehicle? 
> There does 
> > not seem to be another available port.
> >
> > There is a smaller-diameter plug toward the back of the manifold in 
> > front
> of
> > the distributor. Does anybody know if this is an oil or vacuum 
> > fitting?
> Any
> > advice or suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> > A second question: How hot is too hot for sustained driving in the 
> > desert heat? I installed a larger radiator which has 
> greatly increased 
> > the vehicle's cooling capacity, but I would like to know 
> the opinions 
> > of the group as to what temperature is really safe. The engine is a 
> > smooth but
> poky
> > 283 4-bbl originally rated at 225HP. It was rebuilt in the late 80s
> without
> > any performance pieces.
> >
> > Thanks, gents.
> >
> > Tim Moebes
> >
> >
> > -
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RE: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light

2002-12-13 Thread Tim Moebes
Thanks for the reply.

I'm not certain there would be sufficient coolant flowing around the sensor
with a T-fitting for a responsive reading.

Tim.

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How about a brass t-fitting in the port?
I think around 200 is normal operating temp, and 220 is really bad. My
Impala runs around 195 most of the time, but then again I don't drive it in
Arizona!!

Dan McIntosh
64 Impala SS



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> Group,
>
> I recently installed a temperature gauge in my 1966 El Camino so I could
see
> how hideously hot it was getting in the Tucson heat this last summer.
> (Funny, the vehicle was fine up in the Pacific Northwest.)
>
> As you know, the temperature port for this early vehicle is located in the
> intake manifold adjacent to the thermostat housing. It does not have a
> temperature sensor in the heads like later models.
>
> Not seeing another available port, I simply disconnected the wire for the
> temperature light and left it for another day. Is there a solution that
will
> allow both the gauge and light to function on this vehicle? There does not
> seem to be another available port.
>
> There is a smaller-diameter plug toward the back of the manifold in front
of
> the distributor. Does anybody know if this is an oil or vacuum fitting?
Any
> advice or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> A second question: How hot is too hot for sustained driving in the desert
> heat? I installed a larger radiator which has greatly increased the
> vehicle's cooling capacity, but I would like to know the opinions of the
> group as to what temperature is really safe. The engine is a smooth but
poky
> 283 4-bbl originally rated at 225HP. It was rebuilt in the late 80s
without
> any performance pieces.
>
> Thanks, gents.
>
> Tim Moebes
>
>
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Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light

2002-12-13 Thread Dan McIntosh
How about a brass t-fitting in the port?
I think around 200 is normal operating temp, and 220 is really bad. My
Impala runs around 195 most of the time, but then again I don't drive it in
Arizona!!

Dan McIntosh
64 Impala SS



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Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:29 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light


> Group,
>
> I recently installed a temperature gauge in my 1966 El Camino so I could
see
> how hideously hot it was getting in the Tucson heat this last summer.
> (Funny, the vehicle was fine up in the Pacific Northwest.)
>
> As you know, the temperature port for this early vehicle is located in the
> intake manifold adjacent to the thermostat housing. It does not have a
> temperature sensor in the heads like later models.
>
> Not seeing another available port, I simply disconnected the wire for the
> temperature light and left it for another day. Is there a solution that
will
> allow both the gauge and light to function on this vehicle? There does not
> seem to be another available port.
>
> There is a smaller-diameter plug toward the back of the manifold in front
of
> the distributor. Does anybody know if this is an oil or vacuum fitting?
Any
> advice or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> A second question: How hot is too hot for sustained driving in the desert
> heat? I installed a larger radiator which has greatly increased the
> vehicle's cooling capacity, but I would like to know the opinions of the
> group as to what temperature is really safe. The engine is a smooth but
poky
> 283 4-bbl originally rated at 225HP. It was rebuilt in the late 80s
without
> any performance pieces.
>
> Thanks, gents.
>
> Tim Moebes
>
>
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RE: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light

2002-12-13 Thread Dean Vandergriff
Tim,
You should be able to buy a thermostat housing that has a port
in the top of it.

Dean Vandergriff





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Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 4:29 PM
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Subject: [Chevelle-List] 66 283: temp gauge AND idiot light


Group,

I recently installed a temperature gauge in my 1966 El Camino so I could
see how hideously hot it was getting in the Tucson heat this last
summer. (Funny, the vehicle was fine up in the Pacific Northwest.)

As you know, the temperature port for this early vehicle is located in
the intake manifold adjacent to the thermostat housing. It does not have
a temperature sensor in the heads like later models.

Not seeing another available port, I simply disconnected the wire for
the temperature light and left it for another day. Is there a solution
that will allow both the gauge and light to function on this vehicle?
There does not seem to be another available port.

There is a smaller-diameter plug toward the back of the manifold in
front of the distributor. Does anybody know if this is an oil or vacuum
fitting? Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.

A second question: How hot is too hot for sustained driving in the
desert heat? I installed a larger radiator which has greatly increased
the vehicle's cooling capacity, but I would like to know the opinions of
the group as to what temperature is really safe. The engine is a smooth
but poky 283 4-bbl originally rated at 225HP. It was rebuilt in the late
80s without any performance pieces.

Thanks, gents.

Tim Moebes


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