RE: [Chevelle-List] Building a big Rat
Title: Message First, keep the 283/3-speed/clutch/bellhousing/etc - if not in the car then covered in your garage. Purists (of which I'm not particularly) might cringe at reworking a survivor but at least keep the original stuff. I'd have to want to hot rod it awfully bad not to keep it in survivor state if everything is original or very close to it. I think if I had one that close, I'd have to try and restore it. Probably cost a lot more than the car would eventually be worth, but a nice restoration sure would be a change and probably garner as much attention as any modified Chevelle at a Chevelle show. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale's Place Team67Midwest Chevelle Regionals -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 12:23 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Building a big RatHi Guys, Never posted to the list and only been a member for a few weeks but i gotta ask this question! I recently purchased a 67 2 dr. hardtop with the 3 spd on the column and a 283. I've got it all stripped down and yesterday we tacked the floor pans back in. Got the fuel tank out this morning and gonna do the trunk tomorrow. I bought the 4-spd hump just for in case! LOL! I decided to big block the car. My question is-- this car was original down to the jack. I mean the floor mat was original all the numbers match and the 283 thats in it runs like a sewing machine. Oh I can hear ya'll nowSEWING MACHINE! HA What do i do? LOL Any info would be greatly appreciated.And just wanted to tell ya'll we put some sheetmetal back in from Goodmark Industires. Didn't exactly fit that well( Had to splice in some pieces) but it looks a whole lot better than that rust did. Have a Happy Thanksgiving Weekend! David Hardin Pro Auto, Inc Memphis, TN
Re: [Chevelle-List] Building a big Rat
Welcome to the list David. I would keep the original drivetrain in case you change your mind. and have fun with the chevelle ! Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Building a big Rat Hi Guys, Never posted to the list and only been a member for a few weeks but i gotta ask this question! I recently purchased a 67 2 dr. hardtop with the 3 spd on the column and a 283. I've got it all stripped down and yesterday we tacked the floor pans back in. Got the fuel tank out this morning and gonna do the trunk tomorrow. I bought the 4-spd hump just for in case! LOL! I decided to big block the car. My question is-- this car was original down to the jack. I mean the floor mat was original all the numbers match and the 283 thats in it runs like a sewing machine. Oh I can hear ya'll nowSEWING MACHINE! HA What do i do? LOL Any info would be greatly appreciated.And just wanted to tell ya'll we put some sheetmetal back in from Goodmark Industires. Didn't exactly fit that well( Had to splice in some pieces) but it looks a whole lot better than that rust did. Have a Happy Thanksgiving Weekend! David Hardin Pro Auto, Inc Memphis, TN
Re: [Chevelle-List] Building a big Rat
Hi Guys, Never posted to the list and only been a member for a few weeks but i gotta ask this question! I recently purchased a 67 2 dr. hardtop with the 3 spd on the column and a 283. I've got it all stripped down and yesterday we tacked the floor pans back in. Got the fuel tank out this morning and gonna do the trunk tomorrow. I bought the 4-spd hump just for in case! LOL! I decided to big block the car. My question is-- this car was original down to the jack. I mean the floor mat was original all the numbers match and the 283 thats in it runs like a sewing machine. Oh I can hear ya'll now SEWING MACHINE! HA What do i do? LOL Any info would be greatly appreciated. And just wanted to tell ya'll we put some sheetmetal back in from Goodmark Industires. Didn't exactly fit that well( Had to splice in some pieces) but it looks a whole lot better than that rust did. Have a Happy Thanksgiving Weekend! David Hardin Pro Auto, Inc Memphis, TN
RE: [Chevelle-List] Building a big Rat
Title: Message Hey Clint, If you want to email them to me I'll put them on another page along with your ~old~ Elky and ZR1. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Dale's Place Team67Midwest Chevelle Regionals -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:03 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Building a big Rat Thanks for the input,Mikey. In actuality,a 502" would probably be all I would want. I agree with you about oval port heads. My last El Camino had a nice 468" with GMP Bowtie alum.oval port heads with 310cc runners and 2.25/1.88 valve combo. However,a crate 502" can probably be bought for around $5K,if one shops around. Anyone on this List running one in their car? I just bought a nice pro street 69 El Camino and want a big BB to go in it. Since the base 502" comes with rect.port heads,another idea might be to buy just the short block and add a pair of Bowtie alum.heads & matching GMP cnc dual plane intake. What I want is a torque monster that will spin to 5,500+rpm. I've got some photos of my new car but since we can't post attachments,I'll just have to email the photos to anyone interested. Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/ - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch Hi Clint, I guess I will chime in on this one. I have a 496 that I have been building and am about ready to drop in my velle. In the case of a 496... the machine will cost ya a bit more then just prepping a block so it may be worth wild to run a 502 if you are going from scratch. I have a pretty decent hook-up at a local machine shop so I decided to just build up what I have for now and save for 550 block. You may want to check around cause occasionally you will find people (like me in a few years) who have a nice 468 or 496 and are upgrading. How much I have into it? Ahhh too much :P Crower bottom end Wiseco pistons, Crower roller cam, Brodix heads... You do the math cause I don't want to LOL. In reality it depends what you want to do with it and how much you do your research. For a street motor... well IMO for a heavy car I would go with some worked oval port heads and the stock bottom end with either hyper or forged pistons depending on your budget and needs. You can get the oval ports at ridiculous prices (I have scored 2 pairs for about 20 bucks at the end off swaps that people didn't want to haul back to their truck). I dunno... a lot of people may laugh or chuckle when they read this but the results don't lie. There are a large number of people out there running oval ports and I have seen ET's as high as 9's! A buddy and I recently built a 468 and used a set of modified ovals and it yielded very impressive track times and dyno numbers. The funny thing is he changed heads after one season (Bolted on some World heads... not sure which ones) and ran slower in the quarter! You can't beat oval ports for torque and low lift velocity. To get a bit more flow out of them up high you will need a good machine shop to do some work to them. In reality what are you trying to build... a fun street bruiser on pump gas... a nasty strip terror... or something in-between? Mikey
Re: [Chevelle-List] Building a big Rat
congratulations Craig, please send me some pictures. Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Building a big Rat Thanks for the input,Mikey. In actuality,a 502" would probably be all I would want. I agree with you about oval port heads. My last El Camino had a nice 468" with GMP Bowtie alum.oval port heads with 310cc runners and 2.25/1.88 valve combo. However,a crate 502" can probably be bought for around $5K,if one shops around. Anyone on this List running one in their car? I just bought a nice pro street 69 El Camino and want a big BB to go in it. Since the base 502" comes with rect.port heads,another idea might be to buy just the short block and add a pair of Bowtie alum.heads & matching GMP cnc dual plane intake. What I want is a torque monster that will spin to 5,500+rpm. I've got some photos of my new car but since we can't post attachments,I'll just have to email the photos to anyone interested. Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/ - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch Hi Clint, I guess I will chime in on this one. I have a 496 that I have been building and am about ready to drop in my velle. In the case of a 496... the machine will cost ya a bit more then just prepping a block so it may be worth wild to run a 502 if you are going from scratch. I have a pretty decent hook-up at a local machine shop so I decided to just build up what I have for now and save for 550 block. You may want to check around cause occasionally you will find people (like me in a few years) who have a nice 468 or 496 and are upgrading. How much I have into it? Ahhh too much :P Crower bottom end Wiseco pistons, Crower roller cam, Brodix heads... You do the math cause I don't want to LOL. In reality it depends what you want to do with it and how much you do your research. For a street motor... well IMO for a heavy car I would go with some worked oval port heads and the stock bottom end with either hyper or forged pistons depending on your budget and needs. You can get the oval ports at ridiculous prices (I have scored 2 pairs for about 20 bucks at the end off swaps that people didn't want to haul back to their truck). I dunno... a lot of people may laugh or chuckle when they read this but the results don't lie. There are a large number of people out there running oval ports and I have seen ET's as high as 9's! A buddy and I recently built a 468 and used a set of modified ovals and it yielded very impressive track times and dyno numbers. The funny thing is he changed heads after one season (Bolted on some World heads... not sure which ones) and ran slower in the quarter! You can't beat oval ports for torque and low lift velocity. To get a bit more flow out of them up high you will need a good machine shop to do some work to them. In reality what are you trying to build... a fun street bruiser on pump gas... a nasty strip terror... or something in-between? Mikey
Re: [Chevelle-List] Building a big Rat
Wichita Falls will soon have a new 1/8th mile dragstrip. Maybe some of you Texas and Okla Chevelle/El Camino owners can attend one of the races. I would be willing to organize a weekend get-together. Good racing,good friends,good food,,sound like a winner? Clint HooperWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636 '69 El Camino Pro Street'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/ - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch In reality what are you trying to build... a fun street bruiser on pump gas... a nasty strip terror... or something in-between? Mikey
Re: [Chevelle-List] Building a big Rat
Thanks for the input,Mikey. In actuality,a 502" would probably be all I would want. I agree with you about oval port heads. My last El Camino had a nice 468" with GMP Bowtie alum.oval port heads with 310cc runners and 2.25/1.88 valve combo. However,a crate 502" can probably be bought for around $5K,if one shops around. Anyone on this List running one in their car? I just bought a nice pro street 69 El Camino and want a big BB to go in it. Since the base 502" comes with rect.port heads,another idea might be to buy just the short block and add a pair of Bowtie alum.heads & matching GMP cnc dual plane intake. What I want is a torque monster that will spin to 5,500+rpm. I've got some photos of my new car but since we can't post attachments,I'll just have to email the photos to anyone interested. Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/ - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch Hi Clint, I guess I will chime in on this one. I have a 496 that I have been building and am about ready to drop in my velle. In the case of a 496... the machine will cost ya a bit more then just prepping a block so it may be worth wild to run a 502 if you are going from scratch. I have a pretty decent hook-up at a local machine shop so I decided to just build up what I have for now and save for 550 block. You may want to check around cause occasionally you will find people (like me in a few years) who have a nice 468 or 496 and are upgrading. How much I have into it? Ahhh too much :P Crower bottom end Wiseco pistons, Crower roller cam, Brodix heads... You do the math cause I don't want to LOL. In reality it depends what you want to do with it and how much you do your research. For a street motor... well IMO for a heavy car I would go with some worked oval port heads and the stock bottom end with either hyper or forged pistons depending on your budget and needs. You can get the oval ports at ridiculous prices (I have scored 2 pairs for about 20 bucks at the end off swaps that people didn't want to haul back to their truck). I dunno... a lot of people may laugh or chuckle when they read this but the results don't lie. There are a large number of people out there running oval ports and I have seen ET's as high as 9's! A buddy and I recently built a 468 and used a set of modified ovals and it yielded very impressive track times and dyno numbers. The funny thing is he changed heads after one season (Bolted on some World heads... not sure which ones) and ran slower in the quarter! You can't beat oval ports for torque and low lift velocity. To get a bit more flow out of them up high you will need a good machine shop to do some work to them. In reality what are you trying to build... a fun street bruiser on pump gas... a nasty strip terror... or something in-between? Mikey
Re: [Chevelle-List] Building a big Rat
Hi Clint, I guess I will chime in on this one. I have a 496 that I have been building and am about ready to drop in my velle. In the case of a 496... the machine will cost ya a bit more then just prepping a block so it may be worth wild to run a 502 if you are going from scratch. I have a pretty decent hook-up at a local machine shop so I decided to just build up what I have for now and save for 550 block. You may want to check around cause occasionally you will find people (like me in a few years) who have a nice 468 or 496 and are upgrading. How much I have into it? Ahhh too much :P Crower bottom end Wiseco pistons, Crower roller cam, Brodix heads... You do the math cause I don't want to LOL. In reality it depends what you want to do with it and how much you do your research. For a street motor... well IMO for a heavy car I would go with some worked oval port heads and the stock bottom end with either hyper or forged pistons depending on your budget and needs. You can get the oval ports at ridiculous prices (I have scored 2 pairs for about 20 bucks at the end off swaps that people didn't want to haul back to their truck). I dunno... a lot of people may laugh or chuckle when they read this but the results don't lie. There are a large number of people out there running oval ports and I have seen ET's as high as 9's! A buddy and I recently built a 468 and used a set of modified ovals and it yielded very impressive track times and dyno numbers. The funny thing is he changed heads after one season (Bolted on some World heads... not sure which ones) and ran slower in the quarter! You can't beat oval ports for torque and low lift velocity. To get a bit more flow out of them up high you will need a good machine shop to do some work to them. In reality what are you trying to build... a fun street bruiser on pump gas... a nasty strip terror... or something in-between? Mikey - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Building a big Rat Any of you guys running a BB larger than 468 ci? Did you build it yourselfor is it a crate motor? Approximately how much money do you have invested init? Just trying to get some ideas.Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/-To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.htmlTo start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
