Re: [Chevelle-List] Computer idea for virus

2002-01-13 Thread Keith Cooper


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Yes this does work. I have done something similar. The trick like you said
is  to have a name which  becomes the first name in your address book.
Putting in a fake email address causes the program to send you a notice in
your email about undeliverable mail, which lets you know that you have a
virus. This method does not stop your computer from becoming infected. It
stops the virus from being sent to everyone in your address book, and lets
you know that you have a virus. Now tell me why we pay Bill Gates so much
money for his programs when his own engineers can not find a fix like this
to stop viruses from being sent to everyone in an address book.
Keith Cooper
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 A few weeks back, there was some discussion about this. I received this
memo
 from a friend who is one of the computer guys for the State of Delaware.
He
 says it works on some but not all.



 I learned a computer trick today that's really ingenious in its
simplicity.
 As you may know, when/if a worm virus gets into your computer it heads
 straight for your email address book and sends itself to everyone in
there,
 thus infecting all your friends and associates.
 This trick won't keep the virus from getting into your computer, but it
will
 stop it from using your address book to spread further, and it will alert
 you to the fact that the worm has gotten into your system.

 Here's what you do: first, open your address book and click on new
 contact/card just as you would do if you were adding a new friend to your
 list of email addresses.  In the window where you would type your friend's
 first name, type in !000 (that's an exclamation mark followed by 3 zeros).
 In the window below where it prompts you to enter the new email address,
 type in WormAlert.  Then complete everything by clicking add, enter, ok,
 etc.

 Now, here's what you've done and why it works: the name !000 will be
 placed at the top of your address book as entry #1.  This will be where
the
 worm will start in an effort to send itself to all your friends.  But when
 it tries to send itself to !000, it will be undeliverable because of the
 phony email address you entered (WormAlert).  If the first attempt fails
 (which it will because of the phony address), the worm goes no further and
 your friends will not be infected.

 Here's the second great advantage of this method: if an email cannot be
 delivered, you will be notified of this in your Inbox almost immediately.
 Hence, if you ever get an email telling you that an email addressed to
 WormAlert could not be delivered, you know right away that you have the
worm
 virus in your system.  You can then take steps to get rid of it!

 Pretty slick huh?  If everybody you know does this then you needn't ever
 worry about opening mail from friends.  Pass this on to all your friends


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Computer idea for virus

2002-01-13 Thread Keith Cooper


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I do not think that this idea was meant as a fix all to email viruses. It
is possible that this trick will help in some cases. Having a fake email
address listed as your first address in your address book will not harm
anything.
A good virus program is the best fix. Norton Anti-Virus and other virus
program cost as little as $40.00. If a virus attacks sector 0 on your hard
drive, your drive will be trash. The $40.00 will be well spent if you
protect your files or hardware. It is just a fact of computing or surfing
the Internet, you need a up-to-date virus program. We could wait for Bill
Gates to develop a virus program for his OS, but then we would pay $89.00
each year because his would update it each year and make us pay $89.00 each
year for his fixes.
Keith
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 Sorry, turns out it doesn't really work. Articles at:

 http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99213;

 http://www.snopes2.com/computer/virus/quickfix.htm


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 Many of the viruses that attack Outlook will send from all of your address
 book at one time.  It doesn't wait to see if the first or second are
 successful before continuing.

 We get them quite frequently in our enterprise network.  Someone will go
 outside the network and download their personal mail from yahoo, MSN, etc.
 and infect their system.  Luckily Outlook will only allow 100 names in the
 To field so it only sends mail to the first 100 people in our Global
Address
 List of about 22,000 names - and it always get sent to the same 100 people

 The best thing anyone can do is not open any mail with a suspicious
 attachment, period.

 Dale McIntosh
 ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
 67 SS/67 Elky
 http://www.dalesplace.com



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RE: [Chevelle-List] Computer idea for virus

2002-01-13 Thread Kelly C. Hanna


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Sorry, turns out it doesn't really work. Articles at:

http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99213;

http://www.snopes2.com/computer/virus/quickfix.htm

That's the second time I've fallen for a quick fixthank God it doesn't 
do any harm. As for the rest of 'em, I'm out. My virus scanner will do it's 
job just fine.


Kelly C. Hanna
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Computer idea for virus

2002-01-13 Thread Cliff Simpson


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Even better than a fix that will give a false sense of security, quit using
Outlook.

I mean what does Outlook really give you that is worth the danger it
represents?

Software like that could only come from a company that has as low a regard
for security as MS does.  When Steve Gibson pointed out a problem with XP
security do you know what MS did?  Fix it?  No.  They told him that their
operating systems have some many easier to exploit problems that they did
feel hackers would bother with the new one.

When a reporter called a white collar hacker about reports that XP had
holes the hacker asked for the IP address of the reporters XP laptop and
took over computer from across the country while they we still taking on
the phone!

Now I do use MS products but not the email, I just don't see how it's so
much better that I would risk giving my friends viruses for it.  /rant

BTW: to get back to Chevelles, I believe Steve's cranking problem is
related to carb bowl leakage and he should have the plugs cleaned up and
epoxied al la Doug Roe's books.
--

Cliff Computer geeks don't call it LookOut! just because they are all
dyslexic. Simpson

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Computer idea for virus

2002-01-13 Thread richard a schaefer


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On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:16:01 -0700 Cliff Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Even better than a fix that will give a false sense of security, 
 quit using Outlook.
 
 I mean what does Outlook really give you that is worth the danger it
 represents?

Best solution i've heard yet.   I can't remember the last time there was
any publicity about a virus that wasn't related to Outlook Express.   
rick

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Computer idea for virus

2002-01-13 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
Dale:
then if you put 100 fake names or same name 100 times would it send it there? Hum let me see who is on my S**t list.
 Larry


Re: [Chevelle-List] Computer idea for virus

2002-01-13 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
Kelly:
as Shultz on Hogan's Heroes use to say "I know nothing, I see nothing."
 Larry


Re: [Chevelle-List] Computer idea for virus

2002-01-12 Thread Kelly C. Hanna


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I'll let you know if it works in Eudora 5.1I just entered it into my 
address book...thanks, sounds like a good idea

Kelly C. Hanna
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Computer idea for virus

2002-01-12 Thread John Nasta


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How about this:

If you create a New Contact called !000 (is there a reason for this
particular name, other than the fact that it will show up as your first
contact?), and *do not* enter any email address at all.

Outlook will not send an email if there is no email address entered.

Just a guess, but it sounds to me like that would stop the program too, and
perhaps you would see an unsent message hanging out in your Drafts folder.


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RE: [Chevelle-List] Computer idea for virus

2002-01-12 Thread 396guy


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Many of the viruses that attack Outlook will send from all of your address
book at one time.  It doesn't wait to see if the first or second are
successful before continuing.

We get them quite frequently in our enterprise network.  Someone will go
outside the network and download their personal mail from yahoo, MSN, etc.
and infect their system.  Luckily Outlook will only allow 100 names in the
To field so it only sends mail to the first 100 people in our Global Address
List of about 22,000 names - and it always get sent to the same 100 people

The best thing anyone can do is not open any mail with a suspicious
attachment, period.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com



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