Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

2006-01-27 Thread Dennis.McGillis



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Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

2006-01-27 Thread Karl Groves



Just a tip - you might 
want to quote the e-mail to which you're responding. It will help people 
understand what you're talking about (because "cool" doesn't mean anything 
without people knowing what you're saying is cool).
 
In case you don't know 
how to quote, here's a page that tells how - http://email.about.com/cs/aoltips/qt/et010203.htm
 
Karl GrovesMaster Certified CIWhttp://www.karlgroves.comWill Work 
For Parts:http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=3 

 

  
  
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Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

2006-01-26 Thread SHOVEL6793



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Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

2006-01-26 Thread Karl Groves
My first car ever was a 70 Camaro. The previous owner had decided to jack it
up in the back with air shocks so he could fit off-brand drag radials (think
knockoff MT Sportsmans) under it. To aid in quarter panel clearance, he cut
the wheel wells really huge and did a TERRIBLE job of bondo-ing new wheel
wells.  It looked like a 3 year old did it with PlayDoh.  When I took it to
the body shop, one of the guys came over with a hammer, hit the wheel well
and the whole quarter crumbled into a gray pile.

Classic Industries got rich off me that week! ;-)

Karl Groves
Master Certified CIW
http://www.karlgroves.com 

Will Work For Parts:
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> -Original Message-
> From: John Nasta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:37 PM
> To: The Chevelle Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant
> 
> I just remembered why I was so shocked that the rubber fuel 
> line between my sending unit and the steel line was patched 
> with electrical tape. You have to take the tank out just to 
> get to it. Can you imagine going through all of that and not 
> being willing to spend what, a quarter maybe on a three inch 
> piece of rubber hose? I think it's safe to say that mine was 
> pretty much put through the wringer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 





Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

2006-01-26 Thread Matthew Post


I have a similar story.  A friend of mine that lived down the street
from my parents' house had a 69 Malibu.  It was a beater. 
Primer grey with a black vinyl top, 350 auto and a 2 barrel carb.  I
had lots of fun riding in it in high school and always loved the look of
the 69.  Anyway,  a year or so after high school he decided to
rebuild the motor.  Basically, he started taking the motor apart,
but never finished for some reason.  I can't remember why now, but
he was fed up and frustrated with the project.  Since he knew how
much I loved the car, he offered to sell it to me.  I said,
"how much?"  He said, "$200 and it's
yours."  I gave him the $200 and we pushed it home 3 or 4
blocks over to my parents house.
A week or two later I pulled the motor and trans.  Sold the trans to
a buddy for $150 and the motor (in pieces) to someone else for
$100.  So I actually made $50 on the deal!  That was about 12
years ago now, but I still have the car today.
Matt
At 08:14 PM 1/25/2006, you wrote:

funny you
should  mention this  fuel line hose ...this is how i got my
first chevelle  my wife got a ride home from work and the kid giving
her a ride broke down and i helped him get the car in the apt complex.he
said he had no idea what was wrong he bought two high voulme fuel pumps
and two high tourqe starters and it  keept cuttin  off 
well  hes said i wish someone would buy it  he asked what id
give him i told him 200.oo  lol he said youll give me  that
much  ..ok  after  prosses of elimination i looked at the
hose  from the sender to the metal fuel line and ..dry rot 
broke out my blade trimed it and drove the car for two years  till
we moved and couldn't aford the gas to drive it so had to sell it just a
plain ol 72 malibu but my first cheverolet and first of many chevelle and
72 came to be my favorite now im lucky enuff to have  my 72 ss
conv.



Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

2006-01-25 Thread SHOVEL6793



funny you should  mention this  fuel line hose 
...this is how i got my first chevelle  my wife got a ride home from work 
and the kid giving her a ride broke down and i helped him get the car in the apt 
complex.he said he had no idea what was wrong he bought two high voulme fuel 
pumps and two high tourqe starters and it  keept cuttin  off  
well  hes said i wish someone would buy it  he asked what id give him 
i told him 200.oo  lol he said youll give me  that much  
..ok  after  prosses of elimination i looked at the hose  from 
the sender to the metal fuel line and ..dry rot  broke out my blade trimed 
it and drove the car for two years  till we moved and couldn't aford the 
gas to drive it so had to sell it just a plain ol 72 malibu but my first 
cheverolet and first of many chevelle and 72 came to be my favorite now im lucky 
enuff to have  my 72 ss conv.


Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

2006-01-25 Thread John Nasta
I just remembered why I was so shocked that the rubber fuel line between my
sending unit and the steel line was patched with electrical tape. You have
to take the tank out just to get to it. Can you imagine going through all of
that and not being willing to spend what, a quarter maybe on a three inch
piece of rubber hose? I think it's safe to say that mine was pretty much put
through the wringer.





Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

2006-01-24 Thread SHOVEL6793



TRY WORKING ON CARS FOR A LIVING LOL FOR THAT WAS THE PATH I 
CHOOSE AND I RUN INTO THIS ALL THE TIME ESPECIALLY WHEN THE COUSTMER SAYS "IT 
WASENT LIKE THAT BEFORE"  HEHEHE


Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

2006-01-24 Thread mike f
Careless, or Clueless?
mike

--- Karl Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So, I finally got to REALLY dive into disassembling
> my car this past weekend
> (http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=6)
> 
> First, I gotta say that it wasn't until this weekend
> that I REALLY
> understood what I was missing from my life.  I think
> I'm just the kind of
> guy who needs to be playing with cars to feel
> complete.  Its not like I
> really know that much. If anything, it is the fact
> that I *don't* know
> everything that makes it so much fun.
> 
> But that's not why I'm writing this post. I want to
> rant a little about what
> a major clusterf**k my car is.  Not that it bothers
> me, because I wanted a
> POS to work on, but rather that the previous owner
> was such an idiot.
> 
> Some of the priceless examples of auto-mechanic
> genius:
>  - Apparently, the transmission kickdown cable,
> vacuum advance, and fuel
> return lines serve no purpose, because they were
> unhooked completely
>  - Positive battery cables should be replaced with
> Monster Cable brand
> speaker wire.
>  - If you don't know where a wire goes, just cap it
> off with a wire nut and
> stick it where it won't get in the way (of the
> dangling kickdown cable)
> 
> The list could go on.  Honestly, it doesn't bother
> me to have inherited such
> a mess, I'm just dumbfounded that people could be so
> completely careless. If
> you're not going to do it right, just don't do it at
> all. After this
> weekend, I honestly feel like I liberated my car
> from certain doom.
> 
> 
> Karl Groves
> Master Certified CIW
> http://www.karlgroves.com 
> 
> Will Work For Parts:
> http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=3
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

2006-01-24 Thread Rick Schaefer
KarlDon't forget, back in the day most of our Chevelles were drivers.  Handed down til some 16 Y/O was driving it to school & McD's.   Back then (at least in my case) finances were tight and it was whatever it took to keep it on the road.   Didn't make it right, but I'd have to admit to my fair share of reverse engineering.
   Nowadays I get satisfaction in getting it right - or at least better.  And wondering what was I thinking.  BTW - looks like your chevelle found a good home, good luck with it.On 1/24/06, Ron Menchey <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Welcome to the world of being a "car guy"...Not everyone does a 100 point> car...so now you can have the pleasure of doing your car the right
> way.HAVE FUN> > Mench> - Original Message -> From: "Karl Groves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: "'The Chevelle Mailing List'" <
Chevelle-list@chevelles.net>> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:06 PM> Subject: [Chevelle-list] A little rant> > > > So, I finally got to REALLY dive into disassembling my car this past
> > weekend> > (http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=6)> >> > First, I gotta say that it wasn't until this weekend that I REALLY
> > understood what I was missing from my life.  I think I'm just the kind of> > guy who needs to be playing with cars to feel complete.  Its not like I> > really know that much. If anything, it is the fact that I *don't* know
> > everything that makes it so much fun.> >> > But that's not why I'm writing this post. I want to rant a little about> > what> > a major clusterf**k my car is.  Not that it bothers me, because I wanted a
> > POS to work on, but rather that the previous owner was such an idiot.> >> > Some of the priceless examples of auto-mechanic genius:> > - Apparently, the transmission kickdown cable, vacuum advance, and fuel
> > return lines serve no purpose, because they were unhooked completely> > - Positive battery cables should be replaced with Monster Cable brand> > speaker wire.> > - If you don't know where a wire goes, just cap it off with a wire nut and
> > stick it where it won't get in the way (of the dangling kickdown cable)> >> > The list could go on.  Honestly, it doesn't bother me to have inherited> > such> > a mess, I'm just dumbfounded that people could be so completely careless.
> > If> > you're not going to do it right, just don't do it at all. After this> > weekend, I honestly feel like I liberated my car from certain doom.> >> >> > Karl Groves
> > Master Certified CIW> > http://www.karlgroves.com> >> > Will Work For Parts:> > 
http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=3> >> >> > > -- Rick Schaefer72 TPI El Camino


Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

2006-01-24 Thread Ron Menchey
Welcome to the world of being a "car guy"...Not everyone does a 100 point 
car...so now you can have the pleasure of doing your car the right 
way.HAVE FUN


Mench
- Original Message - 
From: "Karl Groves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'The Chevelle Mailing List'" 
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:06 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] A little rant


So, I finally got to REALLY dive into disassembling my car this past 
weekend

(http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=6)

First, I gotta say that it wasn't until this weekend that I REALLY
understood what I was missing from my life.  I think I'm just the kind of
guy who needs to be playing with cars to feel complete.  Its not like I
really know that much. If anything, it is the fact that I *don't* know
everything that makes it so much fun.

But that's not why I'm writing this post. I want to rant a little about 
what

a major clusterf**k my car is.  Not that it bothers me, because I wanted a
POS to work on, but rather that the previous owner was such an idiot.

Some of the priceless examples of auto-mechanic genius:
- Apparently, the transmission kickdown cable, vacuum advance, and fuel
return lines serve no purpose, because they were unhooked completely
- Positive battery cables should be replaced with Monster Cable brand
speaker wire.
- If you don't know where a wire goes, just cap it off with a wire nut and
stick it where it won't get in the way (of the dangling kickdown cable)

The list could go on.  Honestly, it doesn't bother me to have inherited 
such
a mess, I'm just dumbfounded that people could be so completely careless. 
If

you're not going to do it right, just don't do it at all. After this
weekend, I honestly feel like I liberated my car from certain doom.


Karl Groves
Master Certified CIW
http://www.karlgroves.com

Will Work For Parts:
http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=3







Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

2006-01-23 Thread rmpvsp
"Be the job, great or small;
Do it right, or not at all!"

I wish I could take credit for that one, but some guy named anonymous wrote it. 
{I'm certain my teenage son is sick to death from hearing it.}

Hopefully, you've found the lion's share of screw ups and can get on with your 
project without getting too upset. One day, hopefully, you will be able to look 
back with pride on what you have accomplished.

Good luck on your project.

Rich

-Original Message-
>From: Karl Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jan 23, 2006 10:06 PM
>To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
>Subject: [Chevelle-list] A little rant
>
>So, I finally got to REALLY dive into disassembling my car this past weekend
>(http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=6)
>
>First, I gotta say that it wasn't until this weekend that I REALLY
>understood what I was missing from my life.  I think I'm just the kind of
>guy who needs to be playing with cars to feel complete.  Its not like I
>really know that much. If anything, it is the fact that I *don't* know
>everything that makes it so much fun.
>
>But that's not why I'm writing this post. I want to rant a little about what
>a major clusterf**k my car is.  Not that it bothers me, because I wanted a
>POS to work on, but rather that the previous owner was such an idiot.
>
>Some of the priceless examples of auto-mechanic genius:
> - Apparently, the transmission kickdown cable, vacuum advance, and fuel
>return lines serve no purpose, because they were unhooked completely
> - Positive battery cables should be replaced with Monster Cable brand
>speaker wire.
> - If you don't know where a wire goes, just cap it off with a wire nut and
>stick it where it won't get in the way (of the dangling kickdown cable)
>
>The list could go on.  Honestly, it doesn't bother me to have inherited such
>a mess, I'm just dumbfounded that people could be so completely careless. If
>you're not going to do it right, just don't do it at all. After this
>weekend, I honestly feel like I liberated my car from certain doom.
>
>
>Karl Groves
>Master Certified CIW
>http://www.karlgroves.com 
>
>Will Work For Parts:
>http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=3
>
>
>




Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

2006-01-23 Thread John Nasta
Hey, the guy who had my 69 El Camino before me bought it for the sole
purpose of pulling the running, numbers-matching engine out of it for his
'85 Camaro, and then he junked the body. Of course pulling the engine
required cutting every wire on both front harnesses. Then of course there
was the repair to the rubber fuel line between the sending unit at the tank
and the steel line going forward to the engine (patched with electrical
tape). That was a nice touch. Believe me, I could go on and on too, but it's
so rewarding when you get it all straightened out and running. My car still
has some minor Charlie Foxtrots to fix, but it is in good running order now
and I drive it almost every day. You'll get there. Take your time and enjoy
it.






Re: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

2006-01-23 Thread gm66

I know your grief. To many shade tree mechanics playing wantabe muscle car 
owners What that old proverb "let the buyer beware" rings more true today 
than ever before. IMO  gm66
--- "Karl Groves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: "Karl Groves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:06:10 -0500
To: "'The Chevelle Mailing List'" 
Subject: [Chevelle-list] A little rant

So, I finally got to REALLY dive into disassembling my car this past weekend
(http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=6)

First, I gotta say that it wasn't until this weekend that I REALLY
understood what I was missing from my life.  I think I'm just the kind of
guy who needs to be playing with cars to feel complete.  Its not like I
really know that much. If anything, it is the fact that I *don't* know
everything that makes it so much fun.

But that's not why I'm writing this post. I want to rant a little about what
a major clusterf**k my car is.  Not that it bothers me, because I wanted a
POS to work on, but rather that the previous owner was such an idiot.

Some of the priceless examples of auto-mechanic genius:
 - Apparently, the transmission kickdown cable, vacuum advance, and fuel
return lines serve no purpose, because they were unhooked completely
 - Positive battery cables should be replaced with Monster Cable brand
speaker wire.
 - If you don't know where a wire goes, just cap it off with a wire nut and
stick it where it won't get in the way (of the dangling kickdown cable)

The list could go on.  Honestly, it doesn't bother me to have inherited such
a mess, I'm just dumbfounded that people could be so completely careless. If
you're not going to do it right, just don't do it at all. After this
weekend, I honestly feel like I liberated my car from certain doom.


Karl Groves
Master Certified CIW
http://www.karlgroves.com 

Will Work For Parts:
http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=3





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