Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block
I'll keep my eyes out for a 454 block for you. One ton pickups used a lot of four bolt blocks. If it were me,I wouldn't care one bit whether it was a two bolt or four bolt block as a two bolt can easily handle over 750hp w/o problems. A Mark IV block would be preferable over a Mark V or VI also as parts are cheaper & more available than the later blocks. Around here,a good Mark IV 454 four bolt block will bring anywhere from $400-800,depending on prep work needed. Good move on blowing off the tall deck idea. They are way more trouble than they are worth. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thanks guys. I called Scat yesterday and this is what I found out... > I can use a standard 454 crank and pistons but I would need to get longer > rods, custom headers, intake spacers, longer pushrods, and a different > distributor. The tech guy at Scat also said a tall deck can get expensive > quickly. Plus it weighs more than a standard deck block. > Now I know. Thanks! > > Clint - Since I have all those left over LS6 parts from the Elky, I want to > assemble a 454 for the Vette. So, if you know of a good 4 bolt main 454 > block with a standard bore let me know. > Herb Lumpp > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Knight > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 10:46 PM > To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block > > > Opps, one more thing, standard headers don't work. The drivers side will in > most cases, but the right side will hit the starter. > > Brian > > >From: "Brian Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List > >To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block > >Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:40:41 -0400 > > > >On tall deck truck engines, the piston has a fourth ring. Also, most of > >them have gear driven timing sets from the factory. That's all I know for > >sure. > > > > > >Brian > > > >>From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List > >>To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" > >>Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block > >>Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:39:47 -0500 > >> > >>At the very least,the pistons are different. What do you have in mind > >>now,Herb? > >>Clint Hooper > >>H&H Custom,owner > >>1969 El Camino ProTourer > >>2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger > >>http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm > >>- Original Message - > >>From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> > >> > Does anyone know if a standard 454 crank/rod/piston combo will fit in a > >>tall > >> > deck block? I don't know for sure, but I assume because the deck > >>height > >>is > >> > 10.2" vs the standard 9.8", the pistons and/or rods will need to be > >> > different. TIA > >> > > >> > Herb Lumpp > >> > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm > >> > >> > >> > > > >_ > >Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > >http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > _ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > >
RE: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block
Thanks guys. I called Scat yesterday and this is what I found out... I can use a standard 454 crank and pistons but I would need to get longer rods, custom headers, intake spacers, longer pushrods, and a different distributor. The tech guy at Scat also said a tall deck can get expensive quickly. Plus it weighs more than a standard deck block. Now I know. Thanks! Clint - Since I have all those left over LS6 parts from the Elky, I want to assemble a 454 for the Vette. So, if you know of a good 4 bolt main 454 block with a standard bore let me know. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Knight Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 10:46 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block Opps, one more thing, standard headers don't work. The drivers side will in most cases, but the right side will hit the starter. Brian >From: "Brian Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List >To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block >Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:40:41 -0400 > >On tall deck truck engines, the piston has a fourth ring. Also, most of >them have gear driven timing sets from the factory. That's all I know for >sure. > > >Brian > >>From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List >>To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" >>Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block >>Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:39:47 -0500 >> >>At the very least,the pistons are different. What do you have in mind >>now,Herb? >>Clint Hooper >>H&H Custom,owner >>1969 El Camino ProTourer >>2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger >>http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm >>- Original Message - >>From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> > Does anyone know if a standard 454 crank/rod/piston combo will fit in a >>tall >> > deck block? I don't know for sure, but I assume because the deck >>height >>is >> > 10.2" vs the standard 9.8", the pistons and/or rods will need to be >> > different. TIA >> > >> > Herb Lumpp >> > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm >> >> >> > >_ >Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! >http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
RE: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block
It will fit but you are looking at very LOW compression, you could probably get some +400 rods, rebalance and be good to go. Taller blocks are usually the way to go to keep the piston pin out of the ring lands in a long rod stroker. Have Fun André -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: 12. august 2005 23:40 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block At the very least,the pistons are different. What do you have in mind now,Herb? Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Does anyone know if a standard 454 crank/rod/piston combo will fit in > a tall > deck block? I don't know for sure, but I assume because the deck > height is > 10.2" vs the standard 9.8", the pistons and/or rods will need to be > different. TIA > > Herb Lumpp > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block
Opps, one more thing, standard headers don't work. The drivers side will in most cases, but the right side will hit the starter. Brian From: "Brian Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:40:41 -0400 On tall deck truck engines, the piston has a fourth ring. Also, most of them have gear driven timing sets from the factory. That's all I know for sure. Brian From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:39:47 -0500 At the very least,the pistons are different. What do you have in mind now,Herb? Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Does anyone know if a standard 454 crank/rod/piston combo will fit in a tall > deck block? I don't know for sure, but I assume because the deck height is > 10.2" vs the standard 9.8", the pistons and/or rods will need to be > different. TIA > > Herb Lumpp > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block
Also, it takes a specific intake or else you have to add shims to a short deck intake in order for the head ports to match the intake. Brian From: "Brian Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:40:41 -0400 On tall deck truck engines, the piston has a fourth ring. Also, most of them have gear driven timing sets from the factory. That's all I know for sure. Brian From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:39:47 -0500 At the very least,the pistons are different. What do you have in mind now,Herb? Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Does anyone know if a standard 454 crank/rod/piston combo will fit in a tall > deck block? I don't know for sure, but I assume because the deck height is > 10.2" vs the standard 9.8", the pistons and/or rods will need to be > different. TIA > > Herb Lumpp > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block
On tall deck truck engines, the piston has a fourth ring. Also, most of them have gear driven timing sets from the factory. That's all I know for sure. Brian From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:39:47 -0500 At the very least,the pistons are different. What do you have in mind now,Herb? Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Does anyone know if a standard 454 crank/rod/piston combo will fit in a tall > deck block? I don't know for sure, but I assume because the deck height is > 10.2" vs the standard 9.8", the pistons and/or rods will need to be > different. TIA > > Herb Lumpp > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block
At the very least,the pistons are different. What do you have in mind now,Herb? Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Does anyone know if a standard 454 crank/rod/piston combo will fit in a tall > deck block? I don't know for sure, but I assume because the deck height is > 10.2" vs the standard 9.8", the pistons and/or rods will need to be > different. TIA > > Herb Lumpp > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
