Re: [Chevelle-list] Was Tires - now spindles
Title: Message Clint, Yes the Fatman spindles do use the stock steering arms, but I don't know anything yet about how they will perform. Mike - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Was Tires - now spindles TJ,I'm not sure I've seen anyone "highly suggest" the Fatman tall spindles just yet,as too much is unknown about their geometry. Do they use the stock steering arms? To fix the problems associated with our car's front geometry,custom arms will probably be needed. That's the reason the ATS spindles haven't been released for A-bodies yet as Tyler is still working on new arms. Just trying to keep someone from buying something that might make them unhappy. I would hold onto my money,for now. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Thomas Ringlein Thanks Brad- Since I have an innate fear of bump steer (which, on the interstate, is a bitch) I have nearly decided to use the fatman fabrications 2 dropped spindles as highly suggested on lateral-g.net. See more here http://www.fatmanfab.com/06page25.htm I figure with some 1 drop springs from Global West, I can get that sweet 3 drop with 17 rubber that looks so good. It should run like a banshee also. I still have some research to do regarding spacing etc., but since it mounts any disk brakes made for 72 Chevelle disk brake spindles, I can run nearly any aftermarket or stock (gack) brakes I want. Anyone using these spindles? What do you think? I am moving to Fresno California in a few months and starting wrenchin. Any Chevelle list folks wanna hook up and lend me some tools? J TJ Ringlein (Rinky) Ramstein, Germany USAF 1972 Chevelle, in shambles From: Brad Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:46 AMTo: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires TJ, Save this (and Clint's) email for when you get back and put on the 17" wheels. I have 275/40/17s on 17" x 9.5" V45 wheels with 5 7/8" backspace by Vintage Wheel Works and I also have the F-body front spindles (which do change the requirements a bit). Unless you are going for the absolute max, then you should ease off and use 5.5" backspace in the rear. I had to clearance my wheel well a bit on one side of the car. I have lots of room to the outside, so your 285s should have lots of room with the 5.5" backspace. In front, a 17x8 with 5.5" backspace would work (although being 1.5" narrower, Clint's suggestion of 4.5" should be fine as well). I wanted the to be the same so I could rotate the tires, but it does make for a tight fit. If you don't care about that, then 255's in front should be OK. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas RingleinSent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:46 AMTo: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires I hope this helps I have had 15 wheels on my 1972 for over 12 years. I have 1987 IROC wheels (15x8 with 4.5 backspacing if memory serves) and have them mounted with 265 50R 15 BFG Radial T/As front and rear. I have never experienced any rubbing anywhere, and the fat tires on all 4 corners looks awesome. When I rebuild, I am going with 17 Americans 17x9.5 with 285s in back, 17x8 with 245s or 255s in front. TJ Ringlein (Rinky) Ramstein, Germany USAF 1972 Chevelle, in shambles From: John Nasta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:14 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires It seems like it's only people with 15" wheels who talk about backspacing. I guess I will be dealing with this soon myself. There is good info and a diagram here: http://www.high-impact.net/wheels/howtomeasurebackspacing.htm I'm still not clear on how maximum offset has any
Re: [Chevelle-list] Was Tires - now spindles
Title: Message TJ,I'm not sure I've seen anyone "highly suggest" the Fatman tall spindles just yet,as too much is unknown about their geometry. Do they use the stock steering arms? To fix the problems associated with our car's front geometry,custom arms will probably be needed. That's the reason the ATS spindles haven't been released for A-bodies yet as Tyler is still working on new arms. Just trying to keep someone from buying something that might make them unhappy. I would hold onto my money,for now. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Thomas Ringlein Thanks Brad- Since I have an innate fear of bump steer (which, on the interstate, is a bitch) I have nearly decided to use the fatman fabrications 2 dropped spindles as highly suggested on lateral-g.net. See more here http://www.fatmanfab.com/06page25.htm I figure with some 1 drop springs from Global West, I can get that sweet 3 drop with 17 rubber that looks so good. It should run like a banshee also. I still have some research to do regarding spacing etc., but since it mounts any disk brakes made for 72 Chevelle disk brake spindles, I can run nearly any aftermarket or stock (gack) brakes I want. Anyone using these spindles? What do you think? I am moving to Fresno California in a few months and starting wrenchin. Any Chevelle list folks wanna hook up and lend me some tools? J TJ Ringlein (Rinky) Ramstein, Germany USAF 1972 Chevelle, in shambles From: Brad Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:46 AMTo: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires TJ, Save this (and Clint's) email for when you get back and put on the 17" wheels. I have 275/40/17s on 17" x 9.5" V45 wheels with 5 7/8" backspace by Vintage Wheel Works and I also have the F-body front spindles (which do change the requirements a bit). Unless you are going for the absolute max, then you should ease off and use 5.5" backspace in the rear. I had to clearance my wheel well a bit on one side of the car. I have lots of room to the outside, so your 285s should have lots of room with the 5.5" backspace. In front, a 17x8 with 5.5" backspace would work (although being 1.5" narrower, Clint's suggestion of 4.5" should be fine as well). I wanted the to be the same so I could rotate the tires, but it does make for a tight fit. If you don't care about that, then 255's in front should be OK. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas RingleinSent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:46 AMTo: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires I hope this helps I have had 15 wheels on my 1972 for over 12 years. I have 1987 IROC wheels (15x8 with 4.5 backspacing if memory serves) and have them mounted with 265 50R 15 BFG Radial T/As front and rear. I have never experienced any rubbing anywhere, and the fat tires on all 4 corners looks awesome. When I rebuild, I am going with 17 Americans 17x9.5 with 285s in back, 17x8 with 245s or 255s in front. TJ Ringlein (Rinky) Ramstein, Germany USAF 1972 Chevelle, in shambles From: John Nasta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:14 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires It seems like it's only people with 15" wheels who talk about backspacing. I guess I will be dealing with this soon myself. There is good info and a diagram here: http://www.high-impact.net/wheels/howtomeasurebackspacing.htm I'm still not clear on how maximum offset has anything to do with the height of the caliper from the center of the axle, while minimum offset has to do with the depth behind the rim. I also dont know why If (I) x2 (times 2) is greater than 12.125" (G), obviously your maximum offset must be just under 4" or why G is measured on the outside of the wheel while the caliper is on the inside, but I have time to figure this out. My '70 Malibu has 15s on the back now and when the air shocks are not pumped up they rub. Offhand I dont know the tire size, which could be the cause of the problem. I suppose I'm going to have to see how she sits with new shocks and then decide what to do about tires and wheels.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Was Tires - now spindles
Title: Message Later-G has some great info. Non of that was available years ago, and now there is a ton of stuff out there. With 3" of drop, you better check the tire clearance. I think I have close to 2" of drop, but it is always hard to determine what you really have. Fresno? A tad far to bring my tools, but I can wave to you as I drive through on my way to Yosemite or my sisters place in the Bay Area. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas RingleinSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:46 AMTo: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Was Tires - now spindles Thanks Brad- Since I have an innate fear of bump steer (which, on the interstate, is a bitch) I have nearly decided to use the fatman fabrications 2” dropped spindles as highly suggested on lateral-g.net. See more here http://www.fatmanfab.com/06page25.htm I figure with some 1” drop springs from Global West, I can get that sweet 3” drop with 17” rubber that looks so good. It should run like a banshee also. I still have some research to do regarding spacing etc., but since it mounts any disk brakes made for 72 Chevelle disk brake spindles, I can run nearly any aftermarket or stock (gack) brakes I want. Anyone using these spindles? What do you think? I am moving to Fresno California in a few months and starting wrenchin’. Any Chevelle list folks wanna hook up and lend me some tools? J TJ Ringlein (Rinky) Ramstein, Germany USAF 1972 Chevelle, in shambles From: Brad Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:46 AMTo: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires TJ, Save this (and Clint's) email for when you get back and put on the 17" wheels. I have 275/40/17s on 17" x 9.5" V45 wheels with 5 7/8" backspace by Vintage Wheel Works and I also have the F-body front spindles (which do change the requirements a bit). Unless you are going for the absolute max, then you should ease off and use 5.5" backspace in the rear. I had to clearance my wheel well a bit on one side of the car. I have lots of room to the outside, so your 285s should have lots of room with the 5.5" backspace. In front, a 17x8 with 5.5" backspace would work (although being 1.5" narrower, Clint's suggestion of 4.5" should be fine as well). I wanted the to be the same so I could rotate the tires, but it does make for a tight fit. If you don't care about that, then 255's in front should be OK. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas RingleinSent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:46 AMTo: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires I hope this helps – I have had 15” wheels on my 1972 for over 12 years. I have 1987 IROC wheels (15x8 with 4.5” backspacing – if memory serves) and have them mounted with 265 50R 15 BFG Radial T/A’s front and rear. I have never experienced any rubbing anywhere, and the fat tires on all 4 corners looks awesome. When I rebuild, I am going with 17” American’s – 17x9.5 with 285’s in back, 17x8 with 245’s or 255’s in front. TJ Ringlein (Rinky) Ramstein, Germany USAF 1972 Chevelle, in shambles From: John Nasta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:14 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires It seems like it's only people with 15" wheels who talk about backspacing. I guess I will be dealing with this soon myself. There is good info and a diagram here: http://www.high-impact.net/wheels/howtomeasurebackspacing.htm I'm still not clear on how maximum offset has anything to do with the height of the caliper from the center of the axle, while minimum offset has to do with the depth behind the rim. I also don’t know why If (I) x2 (times 2) is greater than 12.125" (G), obviously your maximum offset must be just under 4" or why G is measured on the outside of the wheel while the caliper is on the inside, but I have time to figure this out. My '70 Malibu has 15s on the back now and when the air shocks ar
Re: [Chevelle-list] Was Tires - now spindles
Title: Message Thanks Brad- Since I have an innate fear of bump steer (which, on the interstate, is a bitch) I have nearly decided to use the fatman fabrications 2” dropped spindles as highly suggested on lateral-g.net. See more here http://www.fatmanfab.com/06page25.htm I figure with some 1” drop springs from Global West, I can get that sweet 3” drop with 17” rubber that looks so good. It should run like a banshee also. I still have some research to do regarding spacing etc., but since it mounts any disk brakes made for 72 Chevelle disk brake spindles, I can run nearly any aftermarket or stock (gack) brakes I want. Anyone using these spindles? What do you think? I am moving to Fresno California in a few months and starting wrenchin’. Any Chevelle list folks wanna hook up and lend me some tools? J TJ Ringlein (Rinky) Ramstein, Germany USAF 1972 Chevelle, in shambles From: Brad Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:46 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires TJ, Save this (and Clint's) email for when you get back and put on the 17" wheels. I have 275/40/17s on 17" x 9.5" V45 wheels with 5 7/8" backspace by Vintage Wheel Works and I also have the F-body front spindles (which do change the requirements a bit). Unless you are going for the absolute max, then you should ease off and use 5.5" backspace in the rear. I had to clearance my wheel well a bit on one side of the car. I have lots of room to the outside, so your 285s should have lots of room with the 5.5" backspace. In front, a 17x8 with 5.5" backspace would work (although being 1.5" narrower, Clint's suggestion of 4.5" should be fine as well). I wanted the to be the same so I could rotate the tires, but it does make for a tight fit. If you don't care about that, then 255's in front should be OK. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1 '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ringlein Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:46 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires I hope this helps – I have had 15” wheels on my 1972 for over 12 years. I have 1987 IROC wheels (15x8 with 4.5” backspacing – if memory serves) and have them mounted with 265 50R 15 BFG Radial T/A’s front and rear. I have never experienced any rubbing anywhere, and the fat tires on all 4 corners looks awesome. When I rebuild, I am going with 17” American’s – 17x9.5 with 285’s in back, 17x8 with 245’s or 255’s in front. TJ Ringlein (Rinky) Ramstein, Germany USAF 1972 Chevelle, in shambles From: John Nasta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:14 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires It seems like it's only people with 15" wheels who talk about backspacing. I guess I will be dealing with this soon myself. There is good info and a diagram here: http://www.high-impact.net/wheels/howtomeasurebackspacing.htm I'm still not clear on how maximum offset has anything to do with the height of the caliper from the center of the axle, while minimum offset has to do with the depth behind the rim. I also don’t know why If (I) x2 (times 2) is greater than 12.125" (G), obviously your maximum offset must be just under 4" or why G is measured on the outside of the wheel while the caliper is on the inside, but I have time to figure this out. My '70 Malibu has 15s on the back now and when the air shocks are not pumped up they rub. Offhand I don’t know the tire size, which could be the cause of the problem. I suppose I'm going to have to see how she sits with new shocks and then decide what to do about tires and wheels.
