Re: [Chevelle-list] bodywork.. bodywork.. bodywork..

2004-02-22 Thread Capt Crunch
So many great responses... I couldn't agree more with many of them. I have yet to tackle my real issues with body work... going to be doing the driver's side floor pan and patch in the other spots where my 10 point cage has gone through. The rest of the ar is crap to the informed eye, but for now i don't care. She is gona be an abuse track whore so why tweak and race a prestine show car.   I do know you pain... like Clint said the last 10% is always the hardest... getting things done... finding all the little bits you missed. Hang in there... when it is all done it will be a feeling so good there is now way to truely explain it but to fell it yourself. That is when it is all worth it two fold.   Mikey


Re: [Chevelle-list] bodywork.. bodywork.. bodywork..

2004-02-22 Thread Wayne
I feel you Pain.. and  unless you have DEEP pockets  you not alone.. in the
body work blues syndrome..
 a little trick that was taught to me was ".Do one panel at a time " get it
finished in primer and guide coat.
This give you a feeling of  accomplishment...

Wayne
- Original Message - 
From: "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:44 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] bodywork.. bodywork.. bodywork..


> Well gang,
>
> Tonite I thought I'd gripe about the bodywork I'm
> absolutely [EMAIL PROTECTED](@$@([EMAIL PROTECTED])!)@!-ing sick of doing..  I
> have owned my '66 for 7 years, and I'm close to the
> finish line on the bodywork, so I guess that's why
> it's getting to me so much.
>
> In the time I've owned the car, I started w/bodywork
> b/c I didn't have the money for the engine work just
> yet, so I did as much bodywork as I could handle-
> then, I got a motor and put it in the car from a parts
> car, only to have it die about 6 mos after I installed
> it, so I then took a 1-yr hiatus.  From there, I
> finally pulled enough funds together to get a 327 and
> rebuild it for the car, and she now sounds great and
> runs great-  And now, I'm down to the final stretch of
> stripping the last of the original
> nauseating-puke-colored turquoise paint off of the
> car, in hopes of having the bodywork completed and
> ready for paint by April.  Only thing is, I'm now
> working on the roof, which appears to have gone
> seriously neglected for about the first 10 years of
> the car's life-  And then, to make matters worse, the
> next buyer simply shot another coat of paint right
> over it for that "new car" look.  I've been doing the
> entire car with an orbital DA, and my God do I wish
> I'd had the money to simply have the entire body
> bead-blasted..  It's alot of work and I know it will
> be worth it once I'm done and looking back, and I know
> that had I not gotten the car in this condition, I
> probably wouldn't have had one at all, so I really
> need to clam up and just finish it..  But man, it's
> been a rough road..  Anyone else had as much "fun"
> with the bodywork on their classic??
>
> Jim
>
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RE: [Chevelle-list] bodywork.. bodywork.. bodywork..

2004-02-22 Thread Tigergutt
I've done a whole van with a DA sander so I know what you are talking
about, bring some beers and keep working, it will beautiful to see the
whole car sanded down..



Full Revs!!!
:o)
André


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Brady
Sent: 22. februar 2004 02:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Chevelle-list] bodywork.. bodywork.. bodywork..

Well gang,

Tonite I thought I'd gripe about the bodywork I'm
absolutely [EMAIL PROTECTED](@$@([EMAIL PROTECTED])!)@!-ing sick of doing..  I
have owned my '66 for 7 years, and I'm close to the
finish line on the bodywork, so I guess that's why
it's getting to me so much.

In the time I've owned the car, I started w/bodywork
b/c I didn't have the money for the engine work just
yet, so I did as much bodywork as I could handle- 
then, I got a motor and put it in the car from a parts
car, only to have it die about 6 mos after I installed
it, so I then took a 1-yr hiatus.  From there, I
finally pulled enough funds together to get a 327 and
rebuild it for the car, and she now sounds great and
runs great-  And now, I'm down to the final stretch of
stripping the last of the original
nauseating-puke-colored turquoise paint off of the
car, in hopes of having the bodywork completed and
ready for paint by April.  Only thing is, I'm now
working on the roof, which appears to have gone
seriously neglected for about the first 10 years of
the car's life-  And then, to make matters worse, the
next buyer simply shot another coat of paint right
over it for that "new car" look.  I've been doing the
entire car with an orbital DA, and my God do I wish
I'd had the money to simply have the entire body
bead-blasted..  It's alot of work and I know it will
be worth it once I'm done and looking back, and I know
that had I not gotten the car in this condition, I
probably wouldn't have had one at all, so I really
need to clam up and just finish it..  But man, it's
been a rough road..  Anyone else had as much "fun"
with the bodywork on their classic??

Jim


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Re: [Chevelle-list] bodywork.. bodywork.. bodywork..

2004-02-22 Thread J. Brady
Agreed, Trooper..   8^]

I just feel like after 7 years of owning this car, I
should be alot further along..  Then again, I know
someone who owns a '59 Corvette that they bought
driveable in 1969, and it hasn't seen the road again
since 1971.  

Thanks again for the feedback, 

Jim

--- Trooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve,
>   You should be an inspirational speaker :) You made
> me feel guilty that I'm
> sitting here at the computer and not out in the
> garage sanding on my
> Chevelle :)
> 
> Trooper
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Cecil "Steve" Martin"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 9:21 PM
> Subject: [Chevelle-list] bodywork.. bodywork..
> bodywork..
> 
> 
> >
> > I hadn't ever needed to do much body work over the
> years. Never had any
> boy
> > work training either. I had done a lot of
> maintenance and figured out how
> to
> > do things on my own, or at times as the Beatles
> said "I get by with a
> little
> > help from my friends".
> >
> > This project car was a combination of having to do
> with a lesser quality
> car
> > to get started due to low finances, and as
> something to do as part of a
> > midlife crises project that I could take into
> retirement as one of the
> > things to do to enjoy the finer things in life.
> >
> > Well it turns out it sure would have been a whole
> lot cheaper buying a
> much
> > better shape car. I don't know where you live, but
> buying  a mid-west car
> > that must have been an every day driver for most
> of it's life, this thing
> > had more rust hiding in places than I ever could
> have guessed when I
> bought
> > it. What I thought was just a simple patch in part
> of one of the floor
> pans,
> > has turned into most of the bottom of the car
> being replaced. Very little
> > original sheet metal and bracing will be left
> after I am done. I am
> working
> > on replacing the trunk pan and braces now. After
> cleaning, I found the
> rear
> > seat pan needs replacing and that's next.
> >
> > Still, I learned how to weld, how to work a little
> with sheet metal, how
> to
> > do things I never thought I could do, and now know
> a lot about what to
> look
> > for when buying my next project. That's something
> the best automotive
> > schools can't teach as well in my opinion.
> Sometimes the school of hard
> > knocks and experience is the best school.
> >
> > I still have a long ways to go, including quarter
> panels, inner fender
> wells
> > and either fix or replace the front fenders. Right
> now I am getting more
> > confident and I am seriously thinking about fixing
> something most guys
> would
> > throw away and buy new. If I screw them up, then I
> was going to replace
> them
> > anyway.
> >
> > I'm still a little ways away from being where you
> are due to more sheet
> > metal replacement. I actually look forward to when
> I can look at the car
> and
> > finally start to see some improvement in looks.
> Right now you can't tell
> the
> > many man hours I have put into the car.
> >
> > Some of the man hours and work are well hidden
> behind braces where rust
> > holes were hidden as big as my fist. So while
> someone looking in from the
> > garage sees an old project that doesn't look
> touched, I know that what I
> > have done is very satisfying in the long run. I
> can rest knowing I did the
> > right thing, and did not take short cuts just to
> get it on the road
> sooner.
> >
> > Besides, it's kept me out of trouble and been a
> whole lot more fun than
> some
> > other things I could have been doing. Not to
> mention a whole lot better
> than
> > sitting on my butt in front of the TV watching
> worthless trash. Now that's
> > reward enough for today. When I start that baby up
> and drive it for the
> > first time, the pride in doing it right, and doing
> it myself will mean a
> > whole lot more than what I would have felt buying
> one done by someone
> else.
> >
> > Chin up man. Very few guys are brave enough to do
> what we have done.
> > Although a lot of those who do hang out here. They
> are a special breed,
> and
> > I look up to them and what they have done. They
> rodders from the 30's,
> 40's
> > and 50's lead the way and we just follow and carry
> on something that's
> > special. A car guy's quest for the car of his
> dreams. You get to do it
> YOUR
> > way this way :)
> >
> >  
> Steve
> >
> >
> > > Well gang,
> > > Tonite I thought I'd gripe about the bodywork
> I'm
> > > absolutely [EMAIL PROTECTED](@$@([EMAIL PROTECTED])!)@!-ing sick of
> doing..  I
> > > have owned my '66 for 7 years, and I'm close to
> the
> > > finish line on the bodywork, so I guess that's
> why
> > > it's getting to me so much.
> > > In the time I've owned the car, I started
> w/bodywork
> > > b/c I didn't have the money for the engine work
> just
> > > yet, so I did as much bodywork as I could
> handle-
> > > then, I got a m

Re: [Chevelle-list] bodywork.. bodywork.. bodywork..

2004-02-22 Thread Trooper
Steve,
  You should be an inspirational speaker :) You made me feel guilty that I'm
sitting here at the computer and not out in the garage sanding on my
Chevelle :)

Trooper

- Original Message - 
From: "Cecil "Steve" Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 9:21 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] bodywork.. bodywork.. bodywork..


>
> I hadn't ever needed to do much body work over the years. Never had any
boy
> work training either. I had done a lot of maintenance and figured out how
to
> do things on my own, or at times as the Beatles said "I get by with a
little
> help from my friends".
>
> This project car was a combination of having to do with a lesser quality
car
> to get started due to low finances, and as something to do as part of a
> midlife crises project that I could take into retirement as one of the
> things to do to enjoy the finer things in life.
>
> Well it turns out it sure would have been a whole lot cheaper buying a
much
> better shape car. I don't know where you live, but buying  a mid-west car
> that must have been an every day driver for most of it's life, this thing
> had more rust hiding in places than I ever could have guessed when I
bought
> it. What I thought was just a simple patch in part of one of the floor
pans,
> has turned into most of the bottom of the car being replaced. Very little
> original sheet metal and bracing will be left after I am done. I am
working
> on replacing the trunk pan and braces now. After cleaning, I found the
rear
> seat pan needs replacing and that's next.
>
> Still, I learned how to weld, how to work a little with sheet metal, how
to
> do things I never thought I could do, and now know a lot about what to
look
> for when buying my next project. That's something the best automotive
> schools can't teach as well in my opinion. Sometimes the school of hard
> knocks and experience is the best school.
>
> I still have a long ways to go, including quarter panels, inner fender
wells
> and either fix or replace the front fenders. Right now I am getting more
> confident and I am seriously thinking about fixing something most guys
would
> throw away and buy new. If I screw them up, then I was going to replace
them
> anyway.
>
> I'm still a little ways away from being where you are due to more sheet
> metal replacement. I actually look forward to when I can look at the car
and
> finally start to see some improvement in looks. Right now you can't tell
the
> many man hours I have put into the car.
>
> Some of the man hours and work are well hidden behind braces where rust
> holes were hidden as big as my fist. So while someone looking in from the
> garage sees an old project that doesn't look touched, I know that what I
> have done is very satisfying in the long run. I can rest knowing I did the
> right thing, and did not take short cuts just to get it on the road
sooner.
>
> Besides, it's kept me out of trouble and been a whole lot more fun than
some
> other things I could have been doing. Not to mention a whole lot better
than
> sitting on my butt in front of the TV watching worthless trash. Now that's
> reward enough for today. When I start that baby up and drive it for the
> first time, the pride in doing it right, and doing it myself will mean a
> whole lot more than what I would have felt buying one done by someone
else.
>
> Chin up man. Very few guys are brave enough to do what we have done.
> Although a lot of those who do hang out here. They are a special breed,
and
> I look up to them and what they have done. They rodders from the 30's,
40's
> and 50's lead the way and we just follow and carry on something that's
> special. A car guy's quest for the car of his dreams. You get to do it
YOUR
> way this way :)
>
>   Steve
>
>
> > Well gang,
> > Tonite I thought I'd gripe about the bodywork I'm
> > absolutely [EMAIL PROTECTED](@$@([EMAIL PROTECTED])!)@!-ing sick of doing..  I
> > have owned my '66 for 7 years, and I'm close to the
> > finish line on the bodywork, so I guess that's why
> > it's getting to me so much.
> > In the time I've owned the car, I started w/bodywork
> > b/c I didn't have the money for the engine work just
> > yet, so I did as much bodywork as I could handle-
> > then, I got a motor and put it in the car from a parts
> > car, only to have it die about 6 mos after I installed
> > it, so I then took a 1-yr hiatus.  From there, I
> > finally pulled enough funds together to get a 327 and
> > rebuild it for the car, and she now sounds great and
> > runs great-  And now, I'm down to the final stretch of
> > stripping the last of the original
> > nauseating-puke-colored turquoise paint off of the
> > car, in hopes of having the bodywork completed and
> > ready for paint by April.  Only thing is, I'm now
> > working on the roof, which appears to have gone
> > seriously neglected for about the first 10 years of
> > the ca

Re: [Chevelle-list] bodywork.. bodywork.. bodywork..

2004-02-21 Thread ANNEARTIE
Steve, well said!


Re: [Chevelle-list] bodywork.. bodywork.. bodywork..

2004-02-21 Thread ANNEARTIE
Jim, I hope you took plenty of pictures, because one day you'll look back and say  "Damn , I'm good.!  (and so will we).   Bob 71 Elky


Re: [Chevelle-list] bodywork.. bodywork.. bodywork..

2004-02-21 Thread Clint Hooper
Been there,done that,Jim. Us car & aircraft builders have a saying "The last
10% takes 90% of the work".
Clint Hooper
H&H Custom,owner
LT5 Registry Director
http://www.LT5Registry.net/
ACES #1650
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message - 
From: "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Well gang,
> Tonite I thought I'd gripe about the bodywork I'm
> absolutely [EMAIL PROTECTED](@$@([EMAIL PROTECTED])!)@!-ing sick of doing..  I
> have owned my '66 for 7 years, and I'm close to the
> finish line on the bodywork, so I guess that's why
> it's getting to me so much.
> In the time I've owned the car, I started w/bodywork
> b/c I didn't have the money for the engine work just
> yet, so I did as much bodywork as I could handle-
> then, I got a motor and put it in the car from a parts
> car, only to have it die about 6 mos after I installed
> it, so I then took a 1-yr hiatus.  From there, I
> finally pulled enough funds together to get a 327 and
> rebuild it for the car, and she now sounds great and
> runs great-  And now, I'm down to the final stretch of
> stripping the last of the original
> nauseating-puke-colored turquoise paint off of the
> car, in hopes of having the bodywork completed and
> ready for paint by April.  Only thing is, I'm now
> working on the roof, which appears to have gone
> seriously neglected for about the first 10 years of
> the car's life-  And then, to make matters worse, the
> next buyer simply shot another coat of paint right
> over it for that "new car" look.  I've been doing the
> entire car with an orbital DA, and my God do I wish
> I'd had the money to simply have the entire body
> bead-blasted..  It's alot of work and I know it will
> be worth it once I'm done and looking back, and I know
> that had I not gotten the car in this condition, I
> probably wouldn't have had one at all, so I really
> need to clam up and just finish it..  But man, it's
> been a rough road..  Anyone else had as much "fun"
> with the bodywork on their classic??
> Jim