RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question
Well Jeg's shipping is actually free, they just nab you a flat rate for "handling"...Big orders are the way to go with them.. Ron http://home.comcast.net/~cutter169/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:24 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question One good thing about ordering via the web is that you get to see the shipping cost before concluding the ordering process. However, there are some things you should never order through the mail, mainly because your local auto parts store has them and it is much faster and cheaper to buy them locally.
RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question
One good thing about ordering via the web is that you get to see the shipping cost before concluding the ordering process. However, there are some things you should never order through the mail, mainly because your local auto parts store has them and it is much faster and cheaper to buy them locally.
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Gotta ask that dreaded shipping price first!!Especially on e-bay if not stated!! I fell into that paid more for shipping than item cost once>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Dave Studly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:05 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > I ordered the 180 degree thermostat from Jegs, and > > will keep you all posted on whether or not it helps- > > They banged me over the head with a $10 shipping > > charge though, so it must be made out of solid gold > > 8^] > > Ouch, you did get banged on that. Your local Autozone should have one of > those in stock for less than $5. Certainly less than $10. > > -Dave > > >
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> I ordered the 180 degree thermostat from Jegs, and > will keep you all posted on whether or not it helps- > They banged me over the head with a $10 shipping > charge though, so it must be made out of solid gold > 8^] Ouch, you did get banged on that. Your local Autozone should have one of those in stock for less than $5. Certainly less than $10. -Dave
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WOW- Never expected to get such a wide response rate with my dinky little thermostat question! Anyhow, here's the details on my '66: 1. shroud installed (don't know if there was one there when it came from the factory or not) 2. stock 4-blade fan 3. stock water pump pulley (the pump is from Auto Zone, but it's for a stock 327) 4. thermostat came from Auto Zone too (at that point I didn't know there were so many choices for thermostats) 5. radiator is a new replacement radiator that is for a '66 Chevelle with a 327 (don't remember how many rows, but I can check when I get home tonite) I ordered the 180 degree thermostat from Jegs, and will keep you all posted on whether or not it helps- They banged me over the head with a $10 shipping charge though, so it must be made out of solid gold 8^] Thanks for all the input! Jim '66 Malibu '59 Corvette 1959 Corvette Registry, Webmaster http://59vette.cjb.net --- Dave Benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When doing a show car and wanting to keep the > original look etc. You don't > add a 7 blade fan, you don't butcher a fan shroud > into THE CAR EITHER. I > changed the thermostat to keep it running COOL. > > YES THAT IS MY POINT AND I HOPE IT HELPS YOUR > DISCUSSION > JOHN > > > Dave > Ingersoll,Ontario > My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ > > > - Original Message - > From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:51 PM > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > > > I believe you. Is that connected in any way to > this discussion of how to > > achieve better cooling in a car that runs hot? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Dave Benjamin > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:05 PM > > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > > > My 66 was factory 4 blade fan, rad size with 2 > spd and no shroud. > > > > Dave > > Ingersoll,Ontario > > My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:53 PM > > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > > > > > > As Brad pointed out, the thermostat has more to > do with engine warming > > than > > > cooling. A fan shroud, a higher volume fan, a > smaller WP pulley, or a > > bigger > > > (or less restricted) radiator would help. > > > > > > John Nasta > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Dave Benjamin > > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:29 PM > > > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > > > > > I tried a 160 in my 1966 chevelle and it didn't > work very well. There > was > > no > > > fan shroud factory and ounce the motor got up to > 160 it wouldn't (open/ > > > close) cycle. It would stay open therefore not > very good cooling. The > 180 > > > worked fine it it. > > > > > > Dave > > > Ingersoll,Ontario > > > My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/
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Well, good for you. Hopefully I will be able to answer a question for you some day, and hopefully Jim got some considerable advice about HIS car. Thank you, John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dave Benjamin Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question When I built the 1966 chevelle I built it to be fun and drivable.( because it is not a driver) why build the car. I went to car shows, did poker runs with 30 other hot rods etc. Now that is the reason to drive them. I am not going to be someone who loads there car up on a trailer to go to a show. I DRIVE IT. That is why I had to figure out my cooling problem. SORRY Done now. Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ - Original Message - From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:57 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > When doing a show car and wanting to keep the original look etc. You don't > worry about it overheating in traffic, because it is not a driver. > > As pointed out all too many times already, changing to s higher degree > thermostat will not prevent the car from running hot. > > Calm down, honcho. > > Thank you, > John Nasta > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Benjamin > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:22 PM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > When doing a show car and wanting to keep the original look etc. You don't > add a 7 blade fan, you don't butcher a fan shroud into THE CAR EITHER. I > changed the thermostat to keep it running COOL. > > YES THAT IS MY POINT AND I HOPE IT HELPS YOUR DISCUSSION > JOHN > > > Dave > Ingersoll,Ontario > My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ > > > > >
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When I built the 1966 chevelle I built it to be fun and drivable.( because it is not a driver) why build the car. I went to car shows, did poker runs with 30 other hot rods etc. Now that is the reason to drive them. I am not going to be someone who loads there car up on a trailer to go to a show. I DRIVE IT. That is why I had to figure out my cooling problem. SORRY Done now. DaveIngersoll,OntarioMy web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ - Original Message - From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:57 PMSubject: RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question> When doing a show car and wanting to keep the original look etc. You don't> worry about it overheating in traffic, because it is not a driver.>> As pointed out all too many times already, changing to s higher degree> thermostat will not prevent the car from running hot.>> Calm down, honcho.>> Thank you,> John Nasta>>>> -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Benjamin> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:22 PM> To: The Chevelle Mailing List> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question>> When doing a show car and wanting to keep the original look etc. You don't> add a 7 blade fan, you don't butcher a fan shroud into THE CAR EITHER. I> changed the thermostat to keep it running COOL.>> YES THAT IS MY POINT AND I HOPE IT HELPS YOUR DISCUSSION> JOHN>>> Dave> Ingersoll,Ontario> My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/>>>>>
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No, but it is connected to YOUR discussion of YOUR car and YOUR beliefs about it. If somebody asks how to keep their car from running hot and I offer free advice to help that person reach his goal, I would hope that the discussion would not be limited to YOUR beliefs about YOUR car. Thank you, John Nasta -Original Message- I believe you. Is that connected in any way to this discussion of how to achieve better cooling in a car that runs hot? Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ - Original Message - From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:57 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > When doing a show car and wanting to keep the original look etc. You don't > worry about it overheating in traffic, because it is not a driver. > > As pointed out all too many times already, changing to s higher degree > thermostat will not prevent the car from running hot. > > Calm down, honcho. > > Thank you, > John Nasta > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Benjamin > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:22 PM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > When doing a show car and wanting to keep the original look etc. You don't > add a 7 blade fan, you don't butcher a fan shroud into THE CAR EITHER. I > changed the thermostat to keep it running COOL. > > YES THAT IS MY POINT AND I HOPE IT HELPS YOUR DISCUSSION > JOHN > > > Dave > Ingersoll,Ontario > My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ > > > > >
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I believe you. Is that connected in any way to this discussion of how to achieve better cooling in a car that runs hot? Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ - Original Message - From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:57 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > When doing a show car and wanting to keep the original look etc. You don't > worry about it overheating in traffic, because it is not a driver. > > As pointed out all too many times already, changing to s higher degree > thermostat will not prevent the car from running hot. > > Calm down, honcho. > > Thank you, > John Nasta > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Benjamin > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:22 PM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > When doing a show car and wanting to keep the original look etc. You don't > add a 7 blade fan, you don't butcher a fan shroud into THE CAR EITHER. I > changed the thermostat to keep it running COOL. > > YES THAT IS MY POINT AND I HOPE IT HELPS YOUR DISCUSSION > JOHN > > > Dave > Ingersoll,Ontario > My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ > > > > >
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When doing a show car and wanting to keep the original look etc. You don't worry about it overheating in traffic, because it is not a driver. As pointed out all too many times already, changing to s higher degree thermostat will not prevent the car from running hot. Calm down, honcho. Thank you, John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Benjamin Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:22 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question When doing a show car and wanting to keep the original look etc. You don't add a 7 blade fan, you don't butcher a fan shroud into THE CAR EITHER. I changed the thermostat to keep it running COOL. YES THAT IS MY POINT AND I HOPE IT HELPS YOUR DISCUSSION JOHN Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
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When doing a show car and wanting to keep the original look etc. You don't add a 7 blade fan, you don't butcher a fan shroud into THE CAR EITHER. I changed the thermostat to keep it running COOL. YES THAT IS MY POINT AND I HOPE IT HELPS YOUR DISCUSSION JOHN Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ - Original Message - From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:51 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > I believe you. Is that connected in any way to this discussion of how to > achieve better cooling in a car that runs hot? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Benjamin > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:05 PM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > My 66 was factory 4 blade fan, rad size with 2 spd and no shroud. > > Dave > Ingersoll,Ontario > My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ > > > > - Original Message - > From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:53 PM > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > > > As Brad pointed out, the thermostat has more to do with engine warming > than > > cooling. A fan shroud, a higher volume fan, a smaller WP pulley, or a > bigger > > (or less restricted) radiator would help. > > > > John Nasta > > > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Benjamin > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:29 PM > > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > > > I tried a 160 in my 1966 chevelle and it didn't work very well. There was > no > > fan shroud factory and ounce the motor got up to 160 it wouldn't (open/ > > close) cycle. It would stay open therefore not very good cooling. The 180 > > worked fine it it. > > > > Dave > > Ingersoll,Ontario > > My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Reading what Stewart (a popular name in aftermarket water pumps) says about thermostats: A common misconception is that if coolant flows too quickly through the system, that it will not have time to cool properly. However the cooling system is a closed loop, so if you are keeping the coolant in the radiator longer to allow it to cool, you are also allowing it to stay in the engine longer, which increases coolant temperatures. Coolant in the engine will actually boil away from critical heat areas within the cooling system if not forced through the cooling system at a sufficiently high velocity. This situation is a common cause of so-called "hot spots", which can lead to failures. Years ago, cars used low pressure radiator caps with upright-style radiators. At high RPM, the water pump pressure would overcome the radiator cap's rating and force coolant out, resulting in an overheated engine. Many enthusiasts mistakenly believed that these situations were caused because the coolant was flowing through the radiator so quickly, that it did not have time to cool. Using restrictors or slowing water pump speed prevented the coolant from being forced out, and allowed the engine to run cooler. However, cars built in the past thirty years have used cross flow radiators that position the radiator cap on the low pressure (suction) side of the system. This type of system does not subject the radiator cap to pressure from the water pump, so it benefits from maximizing coolant flow, not restricting it. Dale McIntosh
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I read a bunch of he replies,, some vary good points. Still not sure if your 210 Deg is with a thermostat installed ? A 195 deg will keep the coolant in the radiator the longest = the lowest possible coolant temp re entering the block... If you Rad at present dose not have the ability to dissipate the heat.. a number of the options can help.. !. fan shroud 2. larger air flow fan 3. HI flow water pump ( higher exchange rate = more time for coolant in the rad ) 4. smaller dia pulley see above,plus higher fan speed at low RPM's Wayne ACES # 1556 TC # 186 From: "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:23 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > Hi Gang, > > I just ordered a Be Cool 180 degree thermostat for my > '66 327 from Jeg's, and had a question about it- They > also offered a 160 degree model. I spoke w/another > car enthusiast, and they advised to stick with the 180 > thermostat, as the 160 might impact how well the > heater performs in the Winter. Can anyone provide any > feedback on the 2 options, and will this definitely > help my motor run cooler? She currently runs a > constant 210. I wanted to see what options I had > without having to install an electric fan just yet.. > > Thanks! > > Jim > > '66 Malibu > '59 Corvette > 1959 Corvette Registry, Webmaster > http://59vette.cjb.net > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway > http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ > > >
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That's a good point. Assuming the radiator is good, I would try a 7-blade fan. A restrictor also means that the coolant is staying in the block longer. It may be self-defeating. Doesn't sound like a good idea to me. As Brad said, a shroud also helps quite a bit. You can also have an air dam down below to help force the fan to pull air through the radiator rather than from under the bumper. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Riggins Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:29 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question Which also runs the pump faster and may not allow the water to go through the radiator slow enough for thermal efficiency. Have you heard of people putting restrictors on the return side of the radiator to do just that? But unless the radiator is new or obviously in perfect condition, I've always found that the best place to start with a heating problem. My .02. ER John Nasta wrote: > Try a smaller WP pulley. Just think of a 10-speed bike. It will make your > fan turn at a higher RPM. > > John Nasta > Old Car Network > http://oldcarnetwork.com >
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If it runs at a constant 210 a thermostat will do nothing for you if your current one is operation correctlly. Radiator and water pump(pulley) would be where to look for cooler constant temp. I agree that most times the radiator is at fault... whether is is too small, old, partially blocked... etc. Mikey _ Find a broadband plan that fits. Great local deals on high-speed Internet access. https://broadband.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/
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I believe you. Is that connected in any way to this discussion of how to achieve better cooling in a car that runs hot? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Benjamin Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:05 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question My 66 was factory 4 blade fan, rad size with 2 spd and no shroud. Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ - Original Message - From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:53 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > As Brad pointed out, the thermostat has more to do with engine warming than > cooling. A fan shroud, a higher volume fan, a smaller WP pulley, or a bigger > (or less restricted) radiator would help. > > John Nasta > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Benjamin > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:29 PM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > I tried a 160 in my 1966 chevelle and it didn't work very well. There was no > fan shroud factory and ounce the motor got up to 160 it wouldn't (open/ > close) cycle. It would stay open therefore not very good cooling. The 180 > worked fine it it. > > Dave > Ingersoll,Ontario > My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ > > > > >
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Which also runs the pump faster and may not allow the water to go through the radiator slow enough for thermal efficiency. Have you heard of people putting restrictors on the return side of the radiator to do just that? But unless the radiator is new or obviously in perfect condition, I've always found that the best place to start with a heating problem. My .02. ER John Nasta wrote: > Try a smaller WP pulley. Just think of a 10-speed bike. It will make your > fan turn at a higher RPM. > > John Nasta > Old Car Network > http://oldcarnetwork.com > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:48 AM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > Unless you live in a hot climate (which you don't) a 180 thermostat is fine > for the street. However, if your cooling system currently is at 210 the > thermostat alone won't fix it; it'll open earlier (do you have a 195 in > there now?) and slow the temperature ascent but eventually it'll still reach > 210. Have you verified that this 210 reading is accurate? Factory gauge or > aftermarket? How old is the sending unit? GM gauges work based on > resistance and if you can locate the resistance scale for your car (a > factory service manual might contain it) you can use a combination of > resistors to check the accuracy of the gauge. > > A fan shroud always helps with a mechanical fan but I don't know if '66s > came with one from the factory or what your feeling is regarding the > addition of one. I personally like fixed-blade fans used in conjuction with > thermal clutches. > > The radiator isn't very old, is it? How long has it been since the system's > been flushed? > > Brad O. > > > I just ordered a Be Cool 180 degree thermostat for my '66 327 from Jeg's, > and had a > > question about it- They also offered a 160 degree model. I spoke > w/another car > > enthusiast, and they advised to stick with the 180 thermostat, as the 160 > might impact > > how well the heater performs in the Winter. Can anyone provide any > feedback on the 2 > > options, and will this definitely help my motor run cooler? She currently > runs a > > constant 210. I wanted to see what options I had without having to > install an electric > > fan just yet.. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Jim
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My 66 was factory 4 blade fan, rad size with 2 spd and no shroud. Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ - Original Message - From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:53 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > As Brad pointed out, the thermostat has more to do with engine warming than > cooling. A fan shroud, a higher volume fan, a smaller WP pulley, or a bigger > (or less restricted) radiator would help. > > John Nasta > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Benjamin > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:29 PM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > I tried a 160 in my 1966 chevelle and it didn't work very well. There was no > fan shroud factory and ounce the motor got up to 160 it wouldn't (open/ > close) cycle. It would stay open therefore not very good cooling. The 180 > worked fine it it. > > Dave > Ingersoll,Ontario > My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ > > > > >
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As Brad pointed out, the thermostat has more to do with engine warming than cooling. A fan shroud, a higher volume fan, a smaller WP pulley, or a bigger (or less restricted) radiator would help. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Benjamin Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:29 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question I tried a 160 in my 1966 chevelle and it didn't work very well. There was no fan shroud factory and ounce the motor got up to 160 it wouldn't (open/ close) cycle. It would stay open therefore not very good cooling. The 180 worked fine it it. Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
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I tried a 160 in my 1966 chevelle and it didn't work very well. There was no fan shroud factory and ounce the motor got up to 160 it wouldn't (open/ close) cycle. It would stay open therefore not very good cooling. The 180 worked fine it it. Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ - Original Message - From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:19 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > Try a smaller WP pulley. Just think of a 10-speed bike. It will make your > fan turn at a higher RPM. > > John Nasta > Old Car Network > http://oldcarnetwork.com > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:48 AM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question > > Unless you live in a hot climate (which you don't) a 180 thermostat is fine > for the street. However, if your cooling system currently is at 210 the > thermostat alone won't fix it; it'll open earlier (do you have a 195 in > there now?) and slow the temperature ascent but eventually it'll still reach > 210. Have you verified that this 210 reading is accurate? Factory gauge or > aftermarket? How old is the sending unit? GM gauges work based on > resistance and if you can locate the resistance scale for your car (a > factory service manual might contain it) you can use a combination of > resistors to check the accuracy of the gauge. > > A fan shroud always helps with a mechanical fan but I don't know if '66s > came with one from the factory or what your feeling is regarding the > addition of one. I personally like fixed-blade fans used in conjuction with > thermal clutches. > > The radiator isn't very old, is it? How long has it been since the system's > been flushed? > > Brad O. > > > > > I just ordered a Be Cool 180 degree thermostat for my '66 327 from Jeg's, > and had a > > question about it- They also offered a 160 degree model. I spoke > w/another car > > enthusiast, and they advised to stick with the 180 thermostat, as the 160 > might impact > > how well the heater performs in the Winter. Can anyone provide any > feedback on the 2 > > options, and will this definitely help my motor run cooler? She currently > runs a > > constant 210. I wanted to see what options I had without having to > install an electric > > fan just yet.. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Jim > >
RE: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question
Try a smaller WP pulley. Just think of a 10-speed bike. It will make your fan turn at a higher RPM. John Nasta Old Car Network http://oldcarnetwork.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:48 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question Unless you live in a hot climate (which you don't) a 180 thermostat is fine for the street. However, if your cooling system currently is at 210 the thermostat alone won't fix it; it'll open earlier (do you have a 195 in there now?) and slow the temperature ascent but eventually it'll still reach 210. Have you verified that this 210 reading is accurate? Factory gauge or aftermarket? How old is the sending unit? GM gauges work based on resistance and if you can locate the resistance scale for your car (a factory service manual might contain it) you can use a combination of resistors to check the accuracy of the gauge. A fan shroud always helps with a mechanical fan but I don't know if '66s came with one from the factory or what your feeling is regarding the addition of one. I personally like fixed-blade fans used in conjuction with thermal clutches. The radiator isn't very old, is it? How long has it been since the system's been flushed? Brad O. > I just ordered a Be Cool 180 degree thermostat for my '66 327 from Jeg's, and had a > question about it- They also offered a 160 degree model. I spoke w/another car > enthusiast, and they advised to stick with the 180 thermostat, as the 160 might impact > how well the heater performs in the Winter. Can anyone provide any feedback on the 2 > options, and will this definitely help my motor run cooler? She currently runs a > constant 210. I wanted to see what options I had without having to install an electric > fan just yet.. > > Thanks! > > Jim
Re: [Chevelle-list] thermostat question
Unless you live in a hot climate (which you don't) a 180 thermostat is fine for the street. However, if your cooling system currently is at 210 the thermostat alone won't fix it; it'll open earlier (do you have a 195 in there now?) and slow the temperature ascent but eventually it'll still reach 210. Have you verified that this 210 reading is accurate? Factory gauge or aftermarket? How old is the sending unit? GM gauges work based on resistance and if you can locate the resistance scale for your car (a factory service manual might contain it) you can use a combination of resistors to check the accuracy of the gauge. A fan shroud always helps with a mechanical fan but I don't know if '66s came with one from the factory or what your feeling is regarding the addition of one. I personally like fixed-blade fans used in conjuction with thermal clutches. The radiator isn't very old, is it? How long has it been since the system's been flushed? Brad O. > I just ordered a Be Cool 180 degree thermostat for my '66 327 from Jeg's, and had a > question about it- They also offered a 160 degree model. I spoke w/another car > enthusiast, and they advised to stick with the 180 thermostat, as the 160 might > impact > how well the heater performs in the Winter. Can anyone provide any feedback on the 2 > options, and will this definitely help my motor run cooler? She currently runs a > constant 210. I wanted to see what options I had without having to install an > electric > fan just yet.. > > Thanks! > > Jim
