Re: [Chicken-users] chicken-iup - progressing nicely but have problem with canvas-draw
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, no takers on my lame attempt at a financial bribe for making the next chicken-iup so I took a stab at it myself. I've made pretty good progress, no doubt thanks to all the great work done by the Chicken devs, so far chicken 4.8.0.5 and iup have compiled and seem to run fine. I'm stuck at getting the canvas-draw egg installed. Does the error below mean anything to anyone? Thanks. Note: one thing I did different is apply a patch to ffcall that claims to fix the trampoline conflict with windows executable protection. ffcall compiled fine and I doubt it is related to this issue but I thought I'd mention it. I think the 'bribe' did not have anything to do with it. Some of us will gladly improve Chicken without any financial reward - but having a 'bounty' for open issues doesn't seem like a bad idea. Heck, I'd do it in exchange for booze! :) I think the issue is that Chicken for the moment does not seem to enjoy much popularity on Windows. Having an installer could help mitigate some of that, but I am not sure it's the only requirement. Perhaps being able to compile with Microsoft's C compile would be better to ensure compatibility with existing libraries? I took a stab at it some time ago and found the build system to be a major pain, so I dropped the project. That said, do you mind if I ask you what is it that you are working on which requires Windows? :) -- Stephen ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] chicken-iup - progressing nicely but have problem with canvas-draw
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 01:58:31PM -0200, Stephen Eilert wrote: I think the issue is that Chicken for the moment does not seem to enjoy much popularity on Windows. Having an installer could help mitigate some of that, but I am not sure it's the only requirement. Perhaps being able to compile with Microsoft's C compile would be better to ensure compatibility with existing libraries? I took a stab at it some time ago and found the build system to be a major pain, so I dropped the project. Are you referring to our build system or the MSVC tools? If the former, I wouldn't mind answering some questions about it. I know it has some complicated Make macrology, but it's better than spelling out each rule in full. Cheers, Peter -- http://www.more-magic.net ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] chicken-iup - progressing nicely but have problem with canvas-draw
Hi, On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:58:31 -0200 Stephen Eilert spedr...@gmail.com wrote: I think the issue is that Chicken for the moment does not seem to enjoy much popularity on Windows. Having an installer could help mitigate some of that, but I am not sure it's the only requirement. I don't know. Unless the installer drags a C toolchain as a runtime dependency, I don't see how it would make CHICKEN more interesting on Windows for developers (unless you consider csi runs satisfying enough). CHICKEN is primarily a compiler. It compiles to C. So, for any practical use of CHICKEN (as a developer, I mean) you need a C toolchain. If you have a C toolchain, why not build CHICKEN itself? It's pretty simple and lightweight on requirements. Besides GNU Make, you don't need anything else you'd need to install an egg or to compile a hello-world-style program in Scheme. Best wishes. Mario -- http://parenteses.org/mario ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] chicken-iup - progressing nicely but have problem with canvas-draw
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Peter Bex peter@xs4all.nl wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 01:58:31PM -0200, Stephen Eilert wrote: I think the issue is that Chicken for the moment does not seem to enjoy much popularity on Windows. Having an installer could help mitigate some of that, but I am not sure it's the only requirement. Perhaps being able to compile with Microsoft's C compile would be better to ensure compatibility with existing libraries? I took a stab at it some time ago and found the build system to be a major pain, so I dropped the project. Are you referring to our build system or the MSVC tools? If the former, I wouldn't mind answering some questions about it. I know it has some complicated Make macrology, but it's better than spelling out each rule in full. Oh, don't get me wrong, I have no issues with it as an user (or even doing minor changes on *nix). However, understanding and translating those rules to Microsoft's tools required more sanity than I had available (or less sanity, I can't tell!). -- Stephen ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] chicken-iup - progressing nicely but have problem with canvas-draw
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 04:16:01PM -0200, Stephen Eilert wrote: Oh, don't get me wrong, I have no issues with it as an user (or even doing minor changes on *nix). However, understanding and translating those rules to Microsoft's tools required more sanity than I had available (or less sanity, I can't tell!). Have you considered digging into CHICKEN's historical build systems? We used to have MSVC support before it fell into disrepair. I think it worked with both Autofools and CMake (certainly the latter). You might be able to resurrect some of that stuff, or at least take a peek at how it used to be done. Cheers, Peter -- http://www.more-magic.net ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] chicken-iup - progressing nicely but have problem with canvas-draw
This might be useful: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Windows_cross_compiler (not used it personally, just wanted to share the link) martin On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Stephen Eilert spedr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, no takers on my lame attempt at a financial bribe for making the next chicken-iup so I took a stab at it myself. I've made pretty good progress, no doubt thanks to all the great work done by the Chicken devs, so far chicken 4.8.0.5 and iup have compiled and seem to run fine. I'm stuck at getting the canvas-draw egg installed. Does the error below mean anything to anyone? Thanks. Note: one thing I did different is apply a patch to ffcall that claims to fix the trampoline conflict with windows executable protection. ffcall compiled fine and I doubt it is related to this issue but I thought I'd mention it. I think the 'bribe' did not have anything to do with it. Some of us will gladly improve Chicken without any financial reward - but having a 'bounty' for open issues doesn't seem like a bad idea. Heck, I'd do it in exchange for booze! :) I think the issue is that Chicken for the moment does not seem to enjoy much popularity on Windows. Having an installer could help mitigate some of that, but I am not sure it's the only requirement. Perhaps being able to compile with Microsoft's C compile would be better to ensure compatibility with existing libraries? I took a stab at it some time ago and found the build system to be a major pain, so I dropped the project. That said, do you mind if I ask you what is it that you are working on which requires Windows? :) -- Stephen ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] chicken-iup - progressing nicely but have problem with canvas-draw
Martin DeMello scripsit: This might be useful: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Windows_cross_compiler (not used it personally, just wanted to share the link) We already support that using cross-linux-mingw. -- Man has no body distinct from his soul, John Cowan for that called body is a portion of the soulco...@ccil.org discerned by the five senses,http://www.ccil.org/~cowan the chief inlets of the soul in this age. --William Blake ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] chicken-iup - progressing nicely but have problem with canvas-draw
Peter Bex scripsit:
Have you considered digging into CHICKEN's historical build systems?
We used to have MSVC support before it fell into disrepair. I think
it worked with both Autofools and CMake (certainly the latter).
You might be able to resurrect some of that stuff, or at least take
a peek at how it used to be done.
I would suggest a simpler approach to MSVC support. Just forget the whole
Make-style build, and just build using CMD. The C compiler (as distinct
from the C++ compiler) is fast enough to rebuild everything every time
without much headache. And there really isn't anything to conditionalize
on if you are using MSVC with the exception of 32-bit vs. 64-bit,
so you can just have the CMD script(s) copy msvc{32,64}-config.h to
chicken-config.h.
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Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
Into offering the slightest apology
For his Phenomenology. --W. H. Auden, from People (1953)
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