Re: [Chicken-users] chicken scheme + gui on Nokia n800 or n810?
Yeh, the UI in C. Well, you have to decide where the borders are so this flexibility requires some discipline. The cleaner the separation the easier it would be to swap to say Qtopia on a mobile device if you needed to. Personally, I just throw stuff together and see if it runs on my phone and then (if I have time) go back and re-factor it so I am not sure how much mileage you would get from looking at my code right now but here it is: http://zedstar.org/tarballs/thumbtribes-client.tgz Cheers, John. On 06/12/2007, minh thu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John : > > [...] > > In terms of GUI, well I just use GTK+ as IMO it is fairly high-level > > and abstracted enough from raw C that it is pretty easy to use. You > > also get the benefit of cut 'n pasting a lot of pre-written code if > > you go this route. Chicken embeds easily into a GTK+ app. I just do > > the interface code in GTK+ and backend in Chicken. > > Do you mean you write the ui with gtk+ in C ? How is the wiring > between that and Chicken done (which one calls the other and how) ? > Thanks > mt > ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] chicken scheme + gui on Nokia n800 or n810?
John : > [...] > In terms of GUI, well I just use GTK+ as IMO it is fairly high-level > and abstracted enough from raw C that it is pretty easy to use. You > also get the benefit of cut 'n pasting a lot of pre-written code if > you go this route. Chicken embeds easily into a GTK+ app. I just do > the interface code in GTK+ and backend in Chicken. Do you mean you write the ui with gtk+ in C ? How is the wiring between that and Chicken done (which one calls the other and how) ? Thanks mt ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] chicken scheme + gui on Nokia n800 or n810?
If you want to build Chicken for the Nokia N*** devices just install scratchbox. You can cross compile eggs with that also. Chicken runs nicely on the N770 etc. You can then just manually copy over what you need or package it. It is also possible to cross compile eggs if you follow Felix's instructions on the wiki for cross compilation. This is what I do on OpenMoko. On my Nokia I would build with scratchbox though. In terms of GUI, well I just use GTK+ as IMO it is fairly high-level and abstracted enough from raw C that it is pretty easy to use. You also get the benefit of cut 'n pasting a lot of pre-written code if you go this route. Chicken embeds easily into a GTK+ app. I just do the interface code in GTK+ and backend in Chicken. Cheers, John. On 06/12/2007, Matthew Welland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone attempted this? Which gui (if any) works? > > I see this: > > http://zedstar.org/blog/2007/11/07/latest-chicken-scheme-packaged-for-openmoko/ > > which is encouraging (Thanks go to the maintainer). However does > chicken-setup work and can I install eggs? Also does it work with OS2008? > > Thanks. > > Matt > -- > > > ___ > Chicken-users mailing list > Chicken-users@nongnu.org > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users > ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] chicken scheme + gui on Nokia n800 or n810?
2007/12/6, Elf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > heh, are the n810s out yet? i wanted to get one and port chicken to it as > my new organiser... > > -elf I don't know where you are but e.g. expansys.com mt ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] chicken scheme + gui on Nokia n800 or n810?
heh, are the n810s out yet? i wanted to get one and port chicken to it as my new organiser... -elf On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, Matthew Welland wrote: Has anyone attempted this? Which gui (if any) works? I see this: http://zedstar.org/blog/2007/11/07/latest-chicken-scheme-packaged-for-openmoko/ which is encouraging (Thanks go to the maintainer). However does chicken-setup work and can I install eggs? Also does it work with OS2008? Thanks. Matt ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
Re: [Chicken-users] chicken scheme + gui on Nokia n800 or n810?
On Dec 5, 2007 6:53 PM, Matthew Welland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone attempted this? Which gui (if any) works? > > I see this: > > http://zedstar.org/blog/2007/11/07/latest-chicken-scheme-packaged-for-openmoko/ > > which is encouraging (Thanks go to the maintainer). However does > chicken-setup work and can I install eggs? Also does it work with OS2008? You need gcc in order for chicken-setup to work. This is why I first mount an SD card as /usr (to have some space), install task-base-dev, plus probably some other stuff I forgot about, and then compile the whole chicken right on the phone (which takes a long time). But it's also supposed to be possible to cross-compile individual eggs. Maybe someday they can be built by bitbake and made into ipkg's and put into the feeds, so you can install them individually. As for GUIs I keep plodding along on my Display Scheme design. Except I got distracted with GPS lately, now that it works on the phone. And got distracted playing with OpenStreetMap, because the map data has to come from somewhere. I will probably write a GPS mapping app for Display Scheme soon. So far it uses just the framebuffer. But I have a Nokia 770 too (they got so cheap I couldn't resist). My plan is to do a port of Display Scheme that uses xlib, and try to integrate it into Maemo. All this will no doubt take a couple more years (at least). I haven't implemented any high-level abstractions that I have in mind... just a small set of widgets (which are themselves not finished) and a couple of rough proof-of-concept applications. Maybe will use the GPS app to push from both ends at the same time... try to write the app using abstractions that don't exist yet, and then make it realizable. But I have to flesh out my Scheme-to-Scheme IPC ideas better. Individual applications (at least the non-trivial ones) will be separate processes, talking to the DS "head" (or multiple heads) over a "pipe" (an abstract comm channel) which will be a TCP socket at first... with other possible implementations existing someday (Bluetooth RFCOMM, Unix sockets, HTTP, serial line, SSH, etc.) There needs to be a discovery mechanism of course. I'm thinking of installing a Gumstix, wired to a dedicated GPS, in my car. The GPS app would run on the Gumstix processor, and the display is on any mobile device that has Bluetooth and Display Scheme. It should even be faster because the "server" does the mapping and routing work while the "client" just needs to display stuff. Whereas on the Neo, client and server can both be on the same phone... but if you try running PyRoute on the phone, you can see what the result is like. :-) (quite slow) Of course I would hope that compiled Chicken code will be much faster than Python. And I will be avoiding XML wherever possible, which should also help. Anyway I bet you could compile the xlib egg on the phone, if the prerequisites are all in place (headers & libs). ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
[Chicken-users] chicken scheme + gui on Nokia n800 or n810?
Has anyone attempted this? Which gui (if any) works? I see this: http://zedstar.org/blog/2007/11/07/latest-chicken-scheme-packaged-for-openmoko/ which is encouraging (Thanks go to the maintainer). However does chicken-setup work and can I install eggs? Also does it work with OS2008? Thanks. Matt -- ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/chicken-users
