Re: [ChurchillChat] John WHELDON (1911-? ) thanks

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear Mr Finlayson,

Many thanks for your trouble.

I now know it was 1911-1999, but it is useful to know that you have access 
to the ODNB.


Best wishes,

A.C.


From: Sandy Finlayson
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 2:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] John WHELDON (1911-? )

Dear Professor Capet

I checked the ODNB and unfortunately he's not listed. I believe he worked 
with WSC on his books, but can you tell me anything more about him? If I had 
a few more clues I'm happy to keep digging!


Sandy

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On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 8:14 AM 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat 
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Dear All,

For the English version of my Dictionary, I cannot find the year of death of
one of Churchill’s assistants in the 1930s :

John WHELDON (1911-? )

He was not dead when the OB was published, and later books I have consulted
do not mention his dates.

He may have an entry in the ODNB, but I have not access to it.

Can anyone help ?

With best wishes to all,

A.C.

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
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[ChurchillChat] John Wheldon (1911 - 1999)

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Many thanks to all List Members who took to trouble to answer my query.

The answer came from William Roeder, of Rocky Mount, NC :

John Wheldon (1911 - 1999)

https://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/john-wheldon-24-1y7l5kl

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[ChurchillChat] John WHELDON (1911-? )

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Dear All,

For the English version of my Dictionary, I cannot find the year of death of 
one of Churchill’s assistants in the 1930s :


John WHELDON (1911-? )

He was not dead when the OB was published, and later books I have consulted 
do not mention his dates.


He may have an entry in the ODNB, but I have not access to it.

Can anyone help ?

With best wishes to all,

A.C.

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
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76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
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Re: [ChurchillChat] Help with Maurice Ashley quotes : thanks

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Dear  Mr Attenborough,

Many thanks - also to Dave.

Hpw helpful the Churchill Chat is ! I was right to call for aid.

Stupidly, I did not look in In Search of Churchill (though I looked in Sir 
Martin Gilbert's "small" one-volume biography and of course in the OB).


Best wishes to all,

A.C.


From: Wilfred Attenborough
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 10:25 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Help with Maurice Ashley quotes

Dear Professor,

You need look no further than Martin Gilbert's In Search of Churchill. For 
quote (1): page 138. For quote (2): page 141.


Wilfred Attenborough

On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 at 17:12, 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat 
 wrote:


Dear All,

When I prepared my Dictionnaire Churchill, I omitted to make a note of the
places where I found the original English quotations which I translated into
French.
Now drafting the ‘Maurice Ashley’ entry for the English version of the
Dictionnaire which I am preparing, I am stuck with two quotes – I cannot
find the source and the approximations which I googled yielded no results.

1) « C’est un horrible socialiste, mais quelqu’un de vraiment bien »
(Churchill
to Smuts)

The original must read something like " he is a horrible Socialist but a
really good man"

2) « Nous l’aimions tous énormément, et c’était un homme qui méritait de l’être
». (Ashley to Sir Martin Gilbert)

Something like :

‘We all loved him [Churchill] enormously, and he was a man who deserved to
be’.

Do they ring a bell to anyone ?

Thanks in advance for any clue.

With best wishes to all,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
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[ChurchillChat] Help with Maurice Ashley quotes

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Dear All,

When I prepared my Dictionnaire Churchill, I omitted to make a note of the 
places where I found the original English quotations which I translated into 
French.
Now drafting the ‘Maurice Ashley’ entry for the English version of the 
Dictionnaire which I am preparing, I am stuck with two quotes – I cannot 
find the source and the approximations which I googled yielded no results.


1) « C’est un horrible socialiste, mais quelqu’un de vraiment bien » 
(Churchill

to Smuts)

The original must read something like " he is a horrible Socialist but a 
really good man"


2) « Nous l’aimions tous énormément, et c’était un homme qui méritait de l’être 
». (Ashley to Sir Martin Gilbert)


Something like :

‘We all loved him [Churchill] enormously, and he was a man who deserved to
be’.

Do they ring a bell to anyone ?

Thanks in advance for any clue.

With best wishes to all,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
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[ChurchillChat] Watching Darkness Fall: FDR, His Ambassadors, and the Rise of Adolf Hitler

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Dear All,

Though not a specific Churchill book, this recent title includes Joseph 
Kennedy in London.


Watching Darkness Fall: FDR, His Ambassadors, and the Rise of Adolf Hitler

by David McKean

(David McKean is the former US Ambassador to Luxembourg, and former director 
of Policy Planning for the US Department of State. He is currently a Senior 
Fellow at The German Marshall Fund of the United States in Washington, D.C.)


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Watching-Darkness-Fall-Ambassadors-Hitler/dp/1250206960/ref=sr_1_1?crid=TDB6EXBVTZQV&keywords=Watching+darkness+fall%3A+FDR%2C+his+ambassadors%2C+and+the+rise+of+Adolf+Hitler&qid=1647168218&s=books&sprefix=watching+darkness+fall+fdr+his+ambassadors+and+the+rise+of+adolf+hitler%2Cstripbooks%2C742&sr=1-1


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[ChurchillChat] Re: The pint (of champagne) pleases everyone

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Dear All,

Seen in the Daily Express online today :

'Bring back our pint' Brexit Britain looking at reinstating Churchill 
favourite EU stopped
THE UK Government is considering reinstating a previous favourite of wartime 
Prime Minister Winston Churchill.


Pint-sized sparkling wine bottles may return to the UK as the country 
continues to free itself of unwanted EU legislation which has stuck around 
post-Brexit. The Government is thinking of ending a ban that was introduced 
after Britain joined what went on to become the European Union in 1973.


Foreign Secretary Liz Truss is continuing a review of EU laws that have 
remained on the UK's statute book post-Brexit.


An end to the ban is perhaps something Churchill himself would himself have 
welcomed.


He hailed the pint bottle of champagne as the "ideal size", describing it as 
"enough for two at lunch and one at dinner".


The wartime leader once said that his wife, Clemmie, thought that a full 
bottle was too much for him, but he knew half a bottle was insufficient to 
tease his brains.


He remarked that the compromise of the pint "pleases everyone, even the 
producer".



NB : The pint in question is the 56-cl Imperial pint (1/8 of a gallon) not 
the smaller US pint.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1540906/Brexit-news-champagne-pint-sparkling-wine-Winston-Churchill-UK-EU-updat


Raising my glass of Pol Roger 2008 (from a 75-cl bottle) to all,


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[ChurchillChat] Re: Churchill's Little Redhead by Celia Sandys

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Dear All,

The Subday Express has an interview with Celia Sandys on her latest book :

Churchill's Little Redhead

Free access :

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/books/1535031/winston-ww2-britain-leader-churchills-little-redhead-book


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[ChurchillChat] Re: A new film on Munich is announced

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Dear all,

A new film on Munich is announced :

‘Chamberlain was a great man’: why has the PM fooled by Hitler been recast 
as a hero in new film Munich?
‘He fails, but there’s something noble in the attempt’ … Jeremy Irons as 
Neville Chamberlain in Munich: The Edge of War.


He is seen as the appeaser who fell for Hitler’s lies. But was Chamberlain 
scapegoated? Writer Robert Harris and actor Jeremy Irons discuss taking on 
history with their controversial new film



. . . Among those who benefited from the vilification of Chamberlain was his 
rival, Winston Churchill. He doesn’t appear in Munich, but in a sense the 
whole movie is a riposte to his version of history. “I don’t seek to 
denigrate Churchill in any way,” says Harris. “He clearly was a brilliant 
war leader and an inspiring person. But he certainly went out to denigrate 
Chamberlain, and his memoirs really are a great counterfactual. ‘If only 
that, if only this – then Hitler could have been stopped.’ None of it seems 
to really address the things Chamberlain had to deal with. And if we’d 
followed Churchill’s advice, the army would have bought a lot of biplanes.” 
. . .


https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/dec/15/hitler-chamberlain-munich-edge-reason-robert-harris-jeremy-irons


With all best wishes,

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[ChurchillChat] When France Fell: The Vichy Crisis and the Fate of the Anglo-American Alliance

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Dear All,

A new book which is bound to have substantial Churchill content :

When France Fell: The Vichy Crisis and the Fate of the Anglo-American 
Alliance

by Michael S. Neiberg | Oct 29, 2021

“An utterly gripping account, the best to date, of relations within the 
turbulent triumvirate of France, Britain, and America in the Second World 
War. Neiberg vividly brings to life the extraordinary military, domestic, 
personal, and political pressures on giants such as Franklin Roosevelt, 
Winston Churchill, and Charles de Gaulle, while also showing the immediate 
practical effect their interactions had on ordinary people in the struggle 
against the Nazis.”

―Andrew Roberts, author of Churchill: Walking with Destiny

https://www.amazon.com/When-France-Fell-Anglo-American-Alliance/dp/0674258568/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=When+France+Fell%3A+The+Vichy+Crisis+and+the+Fate+of+the+Anglo-American+Alliance&qid=1636920311&qsid=135-9172786-8688167&s=books&sr=1-1&sres=B09KHK4PRX&srpt=ABIS_BOOK


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Re: [ChurchillChat] to quote WSC (or Alice ?)

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frabjous = Originally a nonce word in Lewis Carroll's Jabberwocky; probably 
a blend of fair, fabulous, and joyous.



From: Cita Stelzer
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 11:48 PM
To: ChurchillChat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] to quote WSC


Oh, frabjous day!
James Mueller’s The River War arrived today.

Cita







Cita Stelzer



Please note new email address:

c...@irwinstelzer.com





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[ChurchillChat] Churchill in the Journal of Transatlantic Studies

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For List Members who have access to the Journal of Transatlantic Studies 
through their librairies, three recent articles of interest (with abstracts) :

1) 
  Author: 
 Jespersen, T. Christopher
 
  Title: 
 China in Anglo-American relations: the Cairo Conference, November 22–26 
and December 2–7, 1943
 
  Journal: 
 Journal of Transatlantic Studies, 18 - 1  Date: 2020 Pages: 1-18 

  https://doi.org/10.1057/s42738-019-00038-6  
 

China’s participation in the Cairo Conference in late November and early 
December 1943 served as a highwater mark for China’s diplomatic standing during 
World War Two. Spurred by President Roosevelt’s wish to elevate China and 
Chinese leader Chiang Kai-shek’s international standing to one of the “Big 
Four” allies along with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and Soviet 
leader Joseph Stalin, Chiang sought to make the most of his first, and only, 
appearance on the international war-time stage by pressing for China’s 
interests to be addressed. Assisted by American General Joseph Stilwell, Chiang 
pushed for the Americans and British to commit to a major military operation in 
Burma in addition to a long list of requests. However much Roosevelt wished to 
honor the Chinese requests, he came up against British resistance, and 
although, by this time, the Americans were contributing far more to the 
fighting of the war, the relationship between Roosevelt and Churchill, between 
the Americans and the British, took precedence over any and all Chinese needs. 
Cairo may have marked the peak of China’s international influence during the 
war, but it failed to overcome the far greater bond that connected the USA and 
Great Britain. 

2) 
  Author: 
 Ryan, David
 
  Title: 
 Memory: Churchill and the US lures of the quagmire
 
  Journal: 
 Journal of Transatlantic Studies, 18 - 4  Date: 2020 Pages: 477-497 

  https://doi.org/10.1057/s42738-020-00057-8  
 

‘Churchill’ has been used as a powerful lure in US collective memory on 
questions of military intervention and defiance. While the history of Winston 
Churchill is extensive and complicated the image of him in US collective memory 
has been reduced to a narrower image and understanding of him set around 
resolution, defiance, individual heroism as an antidote to the discourses and 
memories of appeasement. US presidents have a proclivity to reach for a 
memorable phrase or quotation from Churchill when considering questions of 
defiance and intervention. While the common aphorism suggests that lessons from 
the past that are unlearned will be repeated, it does not engage the issue of 
memory. Collective memory, as opposed to history, provides a consciousness that 
can be used by speechwriters and presidents to galvanise, define and motivate 
public opinion under particular circumstances. 

3) 
  Author: 
 Cross, Graham
 
  Title: 
 ‘Command of the air’: Alfred T. Mahan, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Winston S. 
Churchill and an Anglo-American personal diplomacy of air power
 
  Journal: 
 Journal of Transatlantic Studies, 19 - 1  Date: 2021 Pages: 27-53 

  https://doi.org/10.1057/s42738-020-00063-w  
 

Explanations of the importance of Allied air power during World War II often 
look to the supporting military theorists such as Gen. William L. Mitchell and 
Marshal Hugh Trenchard to explain the rhetoric, if not the reality, of the air 
campaign. These theorists and their military acolytes undoubtedly had a 
significant impact on the deployment of air power, but they had much less to 
say on its use as a diplomatic tool. Study of both Franklin D. Roosevelt and 
Winston S. Churchill demonstrates that they had a sophisticated appreciation of 
how to use air power to achieve their foreign policy goals within the realm of 
personal diplomacy. For both Roosevelt and Churchill, the origin of this 
appreciation lay in their early experiences of political office and 
particularly in their exposure to the work of naval strategist Capt. Alfred T. 
Mahan. As wartime national leaders, both came to share a discourse of personal 
air power diplomacy acting to simultaneously refine, challenge and reinforce 
each other’s conceptions. Viewed in this light, clear Anglo-American fields of 
cooperation in deterrence, coercion, persuasion and moral diplomacy emerge. 
Closer examination of this Anglo-American discourse and exchange adds to our 
understanding of the role of personal air power diplomacy at the national level 
in this era. It also brings into relief both the consensus and tensions 
surrounding air power within the Anglo-American wartime alliance. Ultimately, 
it suggests that there was a good deal of continuity in the personal air power 
diplomacy of both leaders as they strove to integrate atomic weapons into their 
calculations and confronted the developing Cold War. 


With all best wishes,

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[ChurchillChat] Books of interest to Churchillians

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Dear All,

Another recent book of interest to Churchillians :

Alan Brooke: Churchill's Right-Hand Critic: A Reappraisal of Lord Alanbrooke 
Hardcover – 31 Mar. 2021

by Andrew Sangster (Author)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Alan-Brooke-Churchills-Right-Hand-Reappraisal/dp/1612009689/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Alan+Brooke%2C+Churchill%27s+right-hand+critic&qid=1630228348&s=books&sr=1-1

With probably some Churchill material in :

Blood and Ruins: The Great Imperial War, 1931-1945 Hardcover – 26 Aug. 2021
by Richard Overy (Author)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blood-Ruins-Global-History-Second/dp/0713995629/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Overy%2C+Richard.+Blood+and+Ruins&qid=1630228070&s=books&sr=1-1


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[ChurchillChat] Re: British Subversive Propaganda during the Second World War

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Dear All,

A new book probably of interest to Churchillians :

British Subversive Propaganda during the Second World War:
Germany, National Socialism and the Political Warfare Executive

https://www.amazon.co.uk/British-Subversive-Propaganda-during-Second/dp/3030716635/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=British+Subversive+Propaganda+During+the+Second+World+War&qid=1630082329&s=books&sr=1-1

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[ChurchillChat] Neville Chamberlain: The Passionate Radical

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Dear All,

A new book on Chamberlain is due in ten day's time :

Neville Chamberlain: The Passionate Radical

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Neville-Chamberlain-Passionate-Walter-Reid/dp/1780276745/ref=sr_1_202?Adv-Srch-Books-Submit.x=37&Adv-Srch-Books-Submit.y=10&__mk_en_GB=%C3%85M%C3%85Z%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&field-datemod=2&field-dateop=After&field-dateyear=2021&qid=1629646286&rnid=271343&s=books&sr=1-202&unfiltered=1


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[ChurchillChat] Re: Winston Churchill: His Times, His Crimes

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Dear All,

Seen by chance on Amazon UK today :

Winston Churchill: His Times, His Crimes
Hardcover – 3 May 2022
by Tariq Ali (Author)

The subject of numerous biographies and history books, Winston Churchill has 
been repeatedly voted as one of the greatest of Englishmen. Even today, 
Boris Johnson in his failing attempts to be magisterial, has adopted many of 
his hero's mannerism! And, as Tariq Ali agrees, Churchill was undoubtedly 
right in 1940-41 to refuse to capitulate to fascism. However, he was also 
one of the staunchest defenders of empire and of Britain's imperial 
doctrine. In this coruscating biography, Tariq Ali challenges Churchill's 
vaulted record. Throughout his long career as journalist, adventurer, MP, 
military leader, statesman, and historian, nationalist self belief 
influenced Churchill's every step, with catastrophic effects. As a young man 
he rode into battle in South Africa, Sudan and India in order to maintain 
the Imperial order. As a minister during the first World War, he was 
responsible for a series of calamitous errors that cost thousands of lives. 
His attempt to crush the Irish nationalists left scars that have not yet 
healed. Despite his record as a defender of his homeland during the Second 
World War, he was willing to sacrifice more distant domains. Singapore fell 
due to his hubris. Over 3 Millions Bengalis starved in 1943 as a consequence 
of his policies. As a peace time leader, even as the Empire was starting to 
crumble, Churchill never questioned his imperial philosophy as he became one 
of the architects of the postwar world we live in today.


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Winston-Churchill-His-Times-Crimes/dp/1788735773/ref=sr_1_25?Adv-Srch-Books-Submit.x=78&Adv-Srch-Books-Submit.y=9&__mk_en_GB=%C3%85M%C3%85Z%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&field-datemod=5&field-dateop=After&field-dateyear=2021&qid=1626625696&rnid=271343&s=books&sr=1-25&unfiltered=1

Older British List Members will remember Tariq Ali's fame as a  radical 
student activist in the 1960s.

Others can look at his biography on Wikipedia :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Ali#Emerging_activism


With all best wishes,

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[ChurchillChat] Sir Earle Page's British War Cabinet Diary, 1941–1942,

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RHS May 2021 NewsletterDear All,

Just out :

Published on behalf of the Royal Historical Society

SIR EARLE PAGE'S BRITISH WAR CABINET DIARY, 1941–1942

https://static.cambridge.org/covers/RHC_0_61_0/cover.jpg?send-default-cover=false&send-full-size-image=true


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Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: Churchill's speech in Metz in July 1946 : thanks

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Dear Allen,

Many thanks - this settles the question.

Your Archive is invaluable when one is in doubt !

Best wishes,

A.C.
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From: Allen Packwood

Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 3:23 PM
To: 'churchillchat@googlegroups.com'
Subject: FW: [ChurchillChat] Re: Churchill's speech in Metz in July 1946

RE: Churchill's speech in Metz in July 1946

Dear Antoine,

The envelope containing Churchill's speech notes (attached) suggest it was 
14 July.


Regards,

Allen





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Sent: 28 June 2021 10:13:29 (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Re: Churchill's speech in Metz in July 1946

Dear All,

I am continuing with my English version of my Dictionnaire Churchill.

I am now tackling "Churchill and 'Europe' ", and I stumble upon a difficulty 
which I had not spotted when preparing the French edition :


Did his speech in Metz take place on 14 or 15 July 1946 ?

His collection of speeches for 1946, _The Sinews of War_ says 14 (p.171) - 
so does RR James in his Complete Speeches (p. 7357), probably culled from 
_The Sinews of War_, however.


But the OB reads : "Churchill spoke, first in Luxembourg on July 14, and on 
the following day in Metz".


Gilbert, Martin. Winston S. Churchill: Never Despair, 1945-1965 (Volume 
VIII, p. 246).


Is there any way to tell who is right ?

With all best wishes,

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[ChurchillChat] Re: Churchill's speech in Metz in July 1946

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Dear All,

I am continuing with my English version of my Dictionnaire Churchill.

I am now tackling "Churchill and 'Europe' ", and I stumble upon a difficulty 
which I had not spotted when preparing the French edition :


Did his speech in Metz take place on 14 or 15 July 1946 ?

His collection of speeches for 1946, _The Sinews of War_ says 14 (p.171) - 
so does RR James in his Complete Speeches (p. 7357), probably culled from 
_The Sinews of War_, however.


But the OB reads : "Churchill spoke, first in Luxembourg on July 14, and on 
the following day in Metz".


Gilbert, Martin. Winston S. Churchill: Never Despair, 1945–1965 (Volume 
VIII, p. 246).


Is there any way to tell who is right ?

With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
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[ChurchillChat] Churchill's War Rooms: The Online Tour (4 June 2021)

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Two hours left to book for tomorrow !

Churchill's War Rooms: The Online Tour 


https://www.iwm.org.uk/events/churchills-war-rooms-the-online-tour


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[ChurchillChat] Re: set of books by Churchill, 'magnificently bound in red leather', offered to President Roosevelt

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Dear All,

Following the highly publicised recent sale of Churchill’s wartime picture 
of Marrakech offered to President Roosevelt, I wonder if anyone knows what 
has become of another gift to the President as reported in Pawle’s _The War 
and Colonel Warden_ (p. 174) : ‘a complete set of his own books, which he 
had had magnificently bound in red leather by the London firm of Sangorski 
and Sutcliffe’.


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Re: [ChurchillChat] : ‘Churchill & Son’ Review: “Few fathers have done less for their sons. Few sons have done more for their fathers.”

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Dear Mr Smith,

Many thanks for the link to this very informative review.

I was intrigued by a passage :

' As a cousin of Winston observed at the time: “Few fathers have done less 
for their sons. Few sons have done more for their fathers.” '


I googled the quote, but only got the Wall Street Journal reference.

Who is that cousin (Clare Sheridan ?) Where is the source of the quote, I 
wonder ?


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From: Gregory B. Smith
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 1:23 AM
To: ChurchillChat
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Fwd: MARY SMITH invites you to read the WSJ 
article: ‘Churchill & Son’ Review: The Cage of Paternal Love





This weekend's WSJ review of a new book on Churchill and his son Randolph.



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[ChurchillChat] Re: Churchill and "torturing"

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Dear Richard,

Another one, I'm afraid :

Winston Churchill was "a figure who promoted racism and inequality, unfairly 
imprisoning and torturing many".


https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/19074602.seaford-school-drops-churchill-jk-rowling-house-names/

Torturing ? Where and when ? Another "new" one !

Best,

A.C.
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From: ric...@langworth.name
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:27 PM
To: ChurchillChat
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Churchill and the 1911 Boxing Ban

Dear Antoine,
(New thread for a new subject.)
With your usual perspicacity, you zero in on the one new item in this latest 
eruption from the fever swamps: Churchill banned interracial boxing matches. 
The Empire Strikes Back!


Unwilling to give out my email or pay to download the Guardian-linked 
article,  "British Boxing's Colour Bar" by Neil Carter, I searched and found 
it here: https://bit.ly/3rYvvMQ
Ignore all the ads and come-ons and just read Carter's piece, which you'll 
eventually see after X-ing out all the pop-ups:


Carter's article is perfectly straightforward and scarcely mentions 
Churchill. The effrontery expressed in the Guardian over the 1911 ban on 
white-black boxing sounds like what William Manchester called "Generational 
Chauvinism." Outrage over what was common injustice a century ago.


Nowhere (except in the Guardian article) does Churchill say "white fighters 
would not be seen losing to black ones." Nowhere is he quoted saying "that 
Britain and the US shared 'Anglo-Saxon superiority.'" Nowhere in fact, on 
the boxing ban, is he quoted as saying anything. Is WSC being boxed into 
another corner? Hmm.


Lusstige Blatter, Berlin, 1940

This bears further research: first to establish that the matter actually got 
to his desk; second, what if anything he said about it. But if you read Lord 
Stanhope's objections (Carter's article) they seem to have had more to do 
with discouraging white/black violence than assertions of racial 
inferiority. You read it and tell me!


The 7th Earl of Stanhope (1880-1967) was a Conservative politician whom WSC 
succeeded as First Lord of the Admiralty in 1939. I could find nothing about 
his involvement in the pugilistic debates of 1911: https://bit.ly/3vGdiWk
I have checked the online Churchill Archives without success but have asked 
for help from the Archives Centre.


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The Churchill College symposium, "The Racial Consequences of Mr Churchill",
is vigorously defended in Wednesday's Guardian by its organiser: 
https://bit.ly/3r0bJPu

May I say that the article contains new accusations that i had never heard
of, like "In 1911, Churchill banned interracial boxing matches so white 
fighters

would not be seen losing to black ones" ?
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[ChurchillChat] Re: “The Racial Consequences of Mr Churchill” (continued)

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The Churchill College symposium, ???The Racial Consequences of Mr Churchill???, 
is vigorously defended in Wednesday's Guardian by its organiser :


Opinion
Winston Churchill
Why can't Britain handle the truth about Winston Churchill?
Priyamvada Gopal*

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/17/why-cant-britain-handle-the-truth-about-winston-churchill?utm_term=41011d9dc358321f193f0ed12cb60778&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=GTUK_email

*Professor of Postcolonial Studies in the Faculty of English at the 
University of Cambridge, where she is a Fellow of Churchill College.

From 2006 to 2010, she was Dean of Churchill College.


See Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priyamvada_Gopal

May I say that the article contains new accusations that i had never heard 
of, like


"In 1911, Churchill banned interracial boxing matches so white fighters 
would not be seen losing to black ones" ?


With all best wishes,

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Professor emeritus of British Studies
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[ChurchillChat] Re: review of the new edition of "Chips" Channon's Diaries (vol.1)

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Dear All,

Many of you will be familiar with the "old" edition of "Chips" Channon's 
Diaries - extensively quoted in all Churchill biographies.


An unexpurgated version is being published in two volumes.

There is a review of vol. 1 in today's Guardian  (free access) :

Henry ‘Chips’ Channon review – the celebrated diaries, unredacted
Sex, scandal, kinks and queens … edited by Simon Heffer, these interwar 
diaries by the Tory MP are a masterpiece of storytelling and character 
assassination


https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/mar/13/henry-chips-channon-review-the-celebrated-diaries-unredacted?utm_term=0ee3cdb24ef3f8dabf98243061900167&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=GTUK_email


With all best wishes,

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Re: [ChurchillChat] Gilroy cartoon & newly-found letter by Clementine

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear Liam,

Many thanks - we will see how much this excellent cartoon fetches !

Current bid : £5,500 :

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2021/made-in-britain/john-gilroy-winston-churchill-together-with-typed

Sale closes 16 March.

Best wishes,

A.C.
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From: Liam McLoughlin
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 12:28 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] newly-found letter by Clementine.

Hello
Please find text of article attached.
I don't think there are any issues when these articles are for personal use 
only.

Regards
Liam

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 10:45 AM 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat 
 wrote:

Dear Liam,

Many thanks for drawing List Members' attention to this DT article.

But I was only able to read part of the headline - there is a paywall and
they immediately asked me to subscribe if I wanted to read the article.

I gather it has to do with a newly-found letter by Clementine.

More details would no doubt interest List Members who do not subscribe to
the DT.

With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
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Looks like it's a good time to cash-in Churchill memorabilia !
Regards
Liam McLoughlin


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/05/clementine-churchill-loved-caricature-prime-minster-husband/




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Re: [ChurchillChat] newly-found letter by Clementine.

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear Liam,

Many thanks for drawing List Members' attention to this DT article.

But I was only able to read part of the headline - there is a paywall and 
they immediately asked me to subscribe if I wanted to read the article.


I gather it has to do with a newly-found letter by Clementine.

More details would no doubt interest List Members who do not subscribe to 
the DT.


With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
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76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
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Looks like it's a good time to cash-in Churchill memorabilia !
Regards
Liam McLoughlin


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/05/clementine-churchill-loved-caricature-prime-minster-husband/




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Re: [ChurchillChat] Sale of "The Tower of Koutoubia Mosque" to a Belgian buyer

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear Lee,

Many thanks for this magnificently informative message.

First : WOW ! - for the picture with you. When you write " That might have 
been the last time it was seen in public before this sale" one could add " 
and possibly after this sale"  . . .


Re you point 5, here is what The Art Newpaper writes :

This evening, Tower of the Koutoubia Mosque sold to a bidder on the phone 
with Christie's Surrealism specialist Olivier Camu, who was spending big on 
Churchill—auctioneer Jussi Pylkkänen referred to the bidder as being from 
Belgium (Camu is also Belgian-born).


https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/winston-churchill-s-painting-of-marrakech-given-to-president-roosevelt-and-being-sold-by-angelina-jolie-sells-for-record-gbp8-2m

Best,

A.C.
==



From: Lee Pollock
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:33 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Sale of "The Tower of Koutoubia Mosque"

As someone who is familiar with this painting (see attached photo of me with 
it some years ago), I can offer the following information:


1.  It is Lot No. 9 which begins just before the 57:00 mark on the video.

2.  Ms. Jolie purchased it in 2011 for just over $2,000,000 so assuming some 
seller's commission was paid, her investment multiplied about 4.50 times. 
That is impressive but note that the US stock market (with less risk and 
full liquidity) went up about 3.25 times over the same period while paying 
cash dividends. (Hers was having the painting to look at every day.)


3.  While the price is far higher than any previous Churchill sale, the 
auction house estimates for these have been very low and the uniqueness of 
this picture make the price less shocking.  Nevertheless, the price of the 
three of the Churchills that were sold will pull up the value of all the 
other ones.


4.  The goal of having it available for public display was admirable but it 
was not realistic to expect institutions such as the FDR Library or the 
Smithsonian either buy it themselves or have a supporter do so for them. 
Their resources are constrained and they prefer to use their donors for 
their own internal projects.


Of anyone, Hillsdale College might have had the greatest likelihood (and 
perhaps was even bidding), given its $750 million endowment, prodigious 
fundraising abilities and devotion to Churchill. The college has a wonderful 
statue of Churchill and this picture would have been a jewel on the campus. 
While Churchill is recognized there, FDR is not and it would have been a 
nice way to acknowledge his importance in American history.  His expansion 
of the Federal government and reimagining  of its role (mistakenly cast by 
some today as a harmful "administrative state") was a necessary precursor to 
America's role in the Second World War and the FDR-Churchill alliance.


But even so, at $11 million+, that might have been too much to expect of 
them or any other nonprofit institution.


5.  I'm not sure how Todd determined the buyer was Belgian.  The winning bid 
was put in by Olivier Camu, a Sotheby's Vice Chairman, acting on behalf of a 
client.  In watching the video, I did not hear any mention of Belgium so if 
someone else did, please let us know.


6.  While a Belgian bidder is surprising, there are plenty of rich people in 
that country and perhaps one is enough of a Churchillian to buy all three of 
these lots. But I wouldn't obsess or fantasize too much about the paintings 
ending up in the Geneva Freeport or some other mysterious hideaway.  Private 
collectors who have the means to buy at these prices are likely to have 
multiple homes and I expect it will end up in someone's living room.


7.  But if we're lucky, the identity of the buyer might surface and perhaps 
they'll lend it to a future Churchill painting exhibit.  When it was sold to 
Ms. Jolie in 2011, she wasn't identified and it took me some educated 
guesswork that she might be the buyer; fortunately I knew someone who has 
advised Brad Pitt on military aspects of his films and that person 
approached them on our behalf.  They were very courteous and granted our 
request to lend it to the painting exhibit at the Millennium Gate Museum in 
Atlanta a few years later.  That might have been the last time it was seen 
in public before this sale.


8.  Everyone in the Churchill world is anxious to know who acquired it this 
time as we all want to solicit that person to support our various worthy 
projects.  We'll see if anyone finds out...


I hope the above is helpful.

Thanks.

Lee Pollock

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 4:21 AM 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat 
 wrote:

Dear Richard,

Many thanks for this.

I followed the link to the YouTube session - but it lasts for over two
hours. Has any List Member any idea when the Churchill bidding begins ?


From what I gather from Todd Milligan's message, the picture(s

Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: Auction Sale of "The Tower of Katoubia Mosque"

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear Richard,

Many thanks for this.

I followed the link to the YouTube session - but it lasts for over two 
hours. Has any List Member any idea when the Churchill bidding begins ?


From what I gather from Todd Milligan's message, the picture(s) went to a 
Belgian. How odd ! There are many more billionaires, I should think, in 
oil-rich Texas (let alone the USA) than in little Belgium with its ruined 
iron and coal industry. Why the picture did not stay in the USA, where it 
belongs, escapes me. (And I say that as a convinced European !)


Perhaps we will know one day ...

Best wishes,

A. Capet
===


From: ric...@langworth.name
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:15 PM
To: ChurchillChat
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Re: Auction Sale of "The Tower of Katoubia Mosque"

Todd Milligan writes: I must confess I was very nervous watching the auction 
unfold on YouTube, where it can be seen: 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GXGb87G2y_Q


To see the bidding war start between 11 initial bidders dwindle to the final 
two, one from Belgium and one from Texas, was nerve wracking. Little hope 
held out that the US bidder might have thought to bring it to one of the 
museums stateside were dashed (in my opinion) when Paddle 860 not only won 
the first work for auction but continued the same success by winning the 
'star' of the show and the last, thereby claiming all three WSC paintings on 
sale. Because Belgium has such high tax rates, it can now be assumed they 
will end up in Geneva Freeport. One can only guess the Texas bidder was 
disappointed, like the rest of us.


What's interesting is that I wrote down last week what I thought it would 
sell for, considering the significance of it compared to 'Goldfish Pond' 
which had the previous $2.8million record. My guess was $10million USD! If 
only money was somewhat plentiful, I would have run the gamut and paid the 
price ensuring it returned where it belongs. Sadly the chance I feel now is 
gone. Thank you so much for spending the time to find a successful buyer. We 
did our best!

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[ChurchillChat] Re: A painting by Sir Winston Churchill has been sold for £8.285m.

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear All,

I was surprised to hear of the auction only today, "after the battle" - I 
did not see anything about it in advance in the usual Churchillian sources 
of information, the more so as it is the famous wartime painting given to 
President Roosevelt.


Anyway, here is the result :

A painting by Sir Winston Churchill and owned by Angelina Jolie has been 
sold for £8.285m.


Details on the Skynews site :

https://news.sky.com/story/painting-by-churchill-and-owned-by-angelina-jolie-is-sold-at-auction-12233222

Out of sheer curiosity, I would be interested to know who the "unidentified 
buyer" is.


Best wishes to all,

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Professor emeritus of British Studies
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Re: [ChurchillChat] Churchill and Hankey Bannister whisky

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear Cita, Donald and Barbara,

Many thanks for these most helpful comments.

My conclusion is that any brand of whatever product can claim that it was 
patronised by Churchill.


In the absence of evidence in the literature, one had better take these 
claims with a large pinch of salt.


Best wishes to all,

A.C.
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From: Barbara Langworth
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:22 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Churchill and Hankey Bannister whisky

However, if you follow up on the citation given [1] there is no mention of 
Churchill in the book.

Barbara Langworth





On Feb 6, 2021, at 3:45 PM, Donald Jakeway  wrote:


Found this note for what it’s worth by the company.

***

Founded in 1757, the wines & spirits company first established premises at 
Johns Street in London's West End. In 1785 the cellars moved to Adelphi 
Arches under Adelphi Terrace, London's first neo-classical building designed 
by the Adams brothers. The cellars remained there until 1936, when the 
Arches were demolished.


Hankey Bannister & Co moved thousands of bottles to new storage across the 
river to Southwark, near the site of Shakespeare's Globe Theatre where, even 
so, the incendiary bombs found them during World War II in 1940. After 
moving to 22 St. James Street Hankey Bannister began absorbing a number of 
other West End firms, acting as an umbrella for various small wine 
merchants, supplying the Royal Household and many exclusive clubs.


In 1915 Hankey Bannister & Co moved to 32, Sackville Street where it 
remained until Saccone & Speed purchased the business in 1932 after the 
death of Douglas Hankey. Hankey Bannister was a favourite of Prince Regent 
William IV and the Dukes of Norfolk and Queensberry and received a Royal 
Warrant under George V.


Hankey Bannister was a favourite with war-time Prime Minister Sir Winston 
Churchill and British writer Evelyn Waugh.[1] During the Top Gear Burma 
Special Richard Hammondstated a preference for Hankey Bannister, with Jeremy 
Clarkson declaring it to be the "third best whisky in Northern Burma".[2]




Don Jakeway
San Antonio, TX
210-845-2405

On Feb 6, 2021, at 12:10 PM, 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat 
 wrote:




Dear All,

A French colleague tells me that he has read somewhere that Churchill 
appreciated Hankey Bannister whisky.


I have never heard that before (neither have I heard of that brand).

Any comments would be most welcome. I would then pass them on to him.

With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
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[ChurchillChat] Re: Churchill and Hankey Bannister whisky

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear All,

A French colleague tells me that he has read somewhere that Churchill 
appreciated Hankey Bannister whisky.


I have never heard that before (neither have I heard of that brand).

Any comments would be most welcome. I would then pass them on to him.

With all best wishes,

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University of Rouen
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[ChurchillChat] Re: "never-before-told anecdotes" on Churchill

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Dear Sandy,

Many thanks for the link, which I followed.

The "blurb" notably says :

"In his new book, complete with never-before-told anecdotes, bestselling 
author Nick Adams explores"  etc.


I wonder what "never-before-told anecdotes" remain to be told about 
Churchill - attested ones, I mean.


With all best wishes,

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From: Sandy Finlayson
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 9:44 PM
To: Churchill List
Cc: ric...@langworth.name
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Bust In, Bust Out

I don't know too many that would mention these men in the same breath, but 
there was a book published last year that did.


https://www.amazon.com/Trump-Churchill-Defenders-Western-Civilization/dp/1642934690

I haven't read it and don't intend to!

Sandy


On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:30 PM ROGER PENCE  wrote:

I was surprised that Donald Trump would keep a bust of Winston Churchill in 
his Oval Office. Trump and Churchill are such polar opposites in so many 
respects-- knowledge of history, dedication to public service, intellectual 
heft, the list goes on and on. I wonder if Trump even realized that 
Churchill would be horrified at his policy of America First.


-Roger Pence-
Edmonds, WA / USA

On 01/22/2021 7:31 AM ric...@langworth.name  wrote:



AC: Momentary apoplexy when told he replaced it with Chavez. But it's Cesar, 
not Hugo, so back to sleep.


Presumably Epstein #2 is back at the Embassy, which loaned it. Perhaps it 
should be hung on a Zip-line between the British Embassy and the White 
House.




So far as I know, Epstein #1, presented to the White House in 1965, is still 
upstairs outside the Treaty Room: 
https://richardlangworth.com/churchill-bust-not


On Friday, January 22, 2021 at 4:47:31 AM UTC-5 antcapet wrote:
Dear All,
Seen in today's Guardian (London) :
No 10 takes relaxed view as Biden removes Churchill bust from Oval Office

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/21/no-10-takes-relaxed-view-as-biden-removes-churchill-bust-from-oval-office?utm_term=dfc6ba1dc4e3d366bf1a5215a79ed159&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=GTUK_email





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[ChurchillChat] Re: The ping-pong game with Churchill's bust continues at the White House

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear All,

Seen in today's Guardian (London) :

No 10 takes relaxed view as Biden removes Churchill bust from Oval Office

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/21/no-10-takes-relaxed-view-as-biden-removes-churchill-bust-from-oval-office?utm_term=dfc6ba1dc4e3d366bf1a5215a79ed159&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=GTUK_email


With all best wishes,

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[ChurchillChat] ‘Whiteballed’: Randolph Churchill, The Conservative Union and the Liverpool Conservative Party, 1935

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Dear All,

In connection with my work for the Royal Historical Society Bibliography, 
just seen an article of interest to Churchillians who have access to the 
journal _Northern History_ through their libraries:


Author: Nuttall, Paul A.
Title: ‘Whiteballed’: Randolph Churchill, The Conservative Union and the 
Liverpool Conservative Party, 1935

Journal: Northern History, 57 - 2  Date: 2020 Pages: 250-269
DOI: 10.1080/0078172X.2020.1748356
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0078172X.2020.1748356

Abstract : In January 1935, Randolph Churchill, the son of Winston, 
announced that he intended to stand in a by-election in what was considered 
the safe Tory seat of Liverpool Wavertree. Churchill, however, was not the 
official Conservative Party candidate: he was an ‘Independent Conservative’ 
standing on a platform of opposition to the Government of India Bill and the 
need for a larger air force. His campaign morphed into a crusade against the 
Liverpool Conservative Party and in particular its leader, Sir Thomas White. 
The Liverpool Conservative Party had, through a series of local ‘bosses’, 
controlled the city for a generation. During the inter-war period questions 
were raised about its methods, including overbearing caucus management and a 
pandering to sectarianism. Churchill’s campaign, which lasted between March 
and November 1935, brought these issues to the fore. In eleven eventful 
months, Churchill stood in two parliamentary elections, attempted to 
overthrow the central organisation, lost a libel case and alienated almost 
everyone in the city. Churchill claimed that the rejection of his campaign 
by the Liverpool Conservative Party amounted to him being ‘whiteballed’ – a 
reference to the local leader. This article is the first time these events 
have been covered in significant detail.



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[ChurchillChat] Re: preview of Winston Churchill : A Life in the News, by Richard Toye

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Dear All,

This Sunday's _Observer_ offers (free access) a preview of Winston Churchill 
: A Life in the News, by Richard Toye (due to appear on 13 August)


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/09/winston-churchill-waged-war-on-paper-over-fake-news-photo-caption


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[ChurchillChat] Churchill and Cheddi Jagan : a new slander ?

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Dear All,

"DeChurchilling the curriculum in a 57 second video"

This short video contains the usual calumnies, but I had never heard of the 
Cheddi Jagan one :


https://twitter.com/mxmovement/status/1270403064755826690?s=21


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[ChurchillChat] Re: review of _Ernest Bevin : Labour’s Churchill_

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Dear All,

This Sunday's _Observer_ offers (free access) a well-balanced review of 
_Ernest Bevin : Labour’s Churchill_ by Andrew Adonis, the former Labour 
Transport Minister, featuring the celebrated Low cartoon, "All behind you, 
Winston" :


https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jun/28/ernest-bevin-labours-churchill-by-andrew-adonis-review?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVS19XZWVrZW5kLTIwMDYyOA%3D%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=GTUK_email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK


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Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: portrait of Lady Churchill by John Napper (1954)

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Dear Richard,

Many thanks for your trrouble. And of course many thanks to Katherine Carter 
for immediately providing this rare and extremely informative link.


I looked at the video, naturally (I seemed to recognise Diana on the left of 
the platform).


It seems incredible that the location of the portrait should remain unknown 
today, and also that none of the major Churchill books except David A. 
Thomas's  Churchill : The Member for Woodford should mention it except as in 
an allusive manner.


OB VIII only says 'On November 23 Churchill spoke at Woodford at the 
presentation of a portrait of his wife.' (p.1070).


It is also odd that there should be no image of it, however reduced or 
re-framed, on Google. All the more puzzling since, as you say "I think it 
was much too good to meet the fate of the dreadful Sutherland".


Is there something which cannot be said or shown about this portrait, I 
wonder ? Mary's silence in her magnificent biography of her mother would 
suggest something like that. Unfortunately, we can no longer ask her . . .


Any clue welcome !

Best wishes to all,

A.C.
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Gilbert, Martin. Winston S. Churchill: Never Despair, 1945–1965 (Volume 
VIII) (Churchill Biography Book 8) (p. ). RosettaBooks. Édition du Kindle.

should

From: ric...@langworth.name
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 9:34 PM
To: ChurchillChat
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Re: portrait of Lady Churchill by John Napper 
(1954)


Antoine,
I asked Katherine Carter at Chartwell writes:
"Yes I know the portrait - it's the one that features in this video 
https://www.britishpathe.com/video/woodfords-gift-to-the-premier
Sadly I do not know where it can be found today, it is not one of the 
portraits of Lady Churchill that we have at Chartwell."


I think it was much too good to meet the fate of the dreadful Sutherland
RL.



On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-4 antcapet wrote:
Dear All,

Some of you know that I am preparing a much enlarged English version of my
Dictionnaire Churchill.

In the course of the spadework for it, I came across a reference to a
portrait of Lady Churchill by John Napper (1954).

The main allusion to it is in David A. Thomas, Churchill : The Member for
Woodford. Ilford: Frank Cass, 1995 (Abingdon: Routledge, 2004), p. 170.

His obituary in the Daily Telegraph says :

"During the 1950s, he painted the Queen and Lady Churchill."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1327101/John-Napper.html

Thomas says it was a present from the Woodford populace on 23 November 1954
to celebrate Churchill's 80th birthday and his 30th year as MP for the
place.

I cannot find any details in the OB or in Mary's or Hardwick's _Clementine
Churchill_. Nothing in Purnell's _First Lady_, either.

No image or even clue on Google.

Another case of the "Sutherland Portrait" ?

All very puzzling !

Best wishes to all,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
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[ChurchillChat] Re: portrait of Lady Churchill by John Napper (1954)

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Dear All,

Some of you know that I am preparing a much enlarged English version of my 
Dictionnaire Churchill.


In the course of the spadework for it, I came across a reference to a 
portrait of Lady Churchill by John Napper (1954).


The main allusion to it is in David A. Thomas, Churchill : The Member for 
Woodford. Ilford: Frank Cass, 1995 (Abingdon: Routledge, 2004), p. 170.


His obituary in the Daily Telegraph says :

"During the 1950s, he painted the Queen and Lady Churchill."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1327101/John-Napper.html

Thomas says it was a present from the Woodford populace on 23 November 1954 
to celebrate Churchill's 80th birthday and his 30th year as MP for the 
place.


I cannot find any details in the OB or in Mary's or Hardwick's _Clementine 
Churchill_. Nothing in Purnell's _First Lady_, either.


No image or even clue on Google.

Another case of the "Sutherland Portrait" ?

All very puzzling !

Best wishes to all,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

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[ChurchillChat] Re: link to the ICS site in today's Observer

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Dear All,

As a nice change from toppled or defaced statues :

Unusually The Observer (Sunday version of the Guardian) has an editorial 
which carries a link to the ICS site.


“Action this day” was one of Winston Churchill’s famous injunctions. For 
Boris Johnson, it has been: “An empty pledge to get me through the day.”


“Action this day” is "hot" in the electonic version of the paper :

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/14/even-tories-increasingly-fear-they-have-inflicted-the-worst-of-all-worlds-on-britain

The link takes the reader to

https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour/finest-hour-177/action-this-day-churchill/

“Action this day”
Finest Hour 177, Summer 2017
Page 47
By Michael McMenamin


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[ChurchillChat] Re: Churchill's statues

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Dear All,

So far, Churchill's statue in Paris* seems to have been spared.

* 
https://www.google.com/search?q=Churchill%27s+statue+in+Paris+chirac+queen&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=ALeKk00EukAo56GWyGeVa6tQXoDOSPw8RQ:1591953823396&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=TxaR79eKQCZIVM%253A%252CsJM-5H6KxAk19M%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSgAvYHIDUPJ1-MQVx01-HqUN8hZg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwibrZGR-vvpAhURAWMBHZ7YCNwQ9QEwA3oECAgQBQ&biw=1166&bih=590#imgrc=2z8jS0l1aoHagM


For how long, however ?

Not the case in Woodford :

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11832425/second-winston-churchill-statue-vandalised-graffiti-blm-protests/

Or in Prague :

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/11/fears-of-violence-stop-london-racism-protest-as-statue-attacks-continue

For details of the Prague statue, see the late John Ramsden's superb _Man of 
the Century_, pp. 312-313.



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[ChurchillChat] Re: Churchill: La biografía (Andrew Roberts)

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Dear All,

I know that some of you collect all books about Churchill in any language, 
including translations.


They may not be aware that Andrew Roberts's superb _Walking With Destiny_ 
now has a Spanish version (over 1,500 pages !):


Churchill: La biografía
Tomás Fernández Aúz (Traductor)
Colección: Serie Mayor
Publishers  Barcelona: Planeta, 2019
ISBN 978-8491991373
Hardcover. 15,5 x 23 cm. €39

https://www.planetadelibros.com/libro-churchill/297004


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[ChurchillChat] Re: Johnson, Churchill and Chamberlain in the (London) Times

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Dear All,

This time, the quotation below comes, not from "the Corbynista Guardian", 
but from Rupert Murdoch's (London) Times, in its editorial today:


"The country needs to know that Mr Johnson has a coherent strategy. 
Otherwise the prime minister who dreamt of being Churchill may find himself 
cast as Neville Chamberlain."


Best wishes to all,

A.C.

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From: Wilfred Attenborough
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Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: "Why the cruel myth of the 'blitz spirit' 
is no model for how to fight coronavirus"


"Fine" article? I don't think so. The British reality in 1940 was complex 
and horrendous; nevertheless, there was an underlying "Blitz Spirit": 
Britain and its capital city came through: there was no folding up, as 
happened elsewhere, Antoine. A word of advice to you: don't look for 
balanced articles about Boris and WSC in the Corbynista Guardian.


Wilfred Attenborough

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 16:51, 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat 
 wrote:

A fine free article (with a photo of Churchill) in today's Guardian by
Professor Richard Overy :

Why the cruel myth of the 'blitz spirit' is no model for how to fight
coronavirus
Wartime leaders disguised the awful reality of being bombed with tales of
British resolve. It’s no fit approach for this crisis

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/19/myth-blitz-spirit-model-coronavirus


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[ChurchillChat] Re: "Why the cruel myth of the 'blitz spirit' is no model for how to fight coronavirus"

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A fine free article (with a photo of Churchill) in today's Guardian by 
Professor Richard Overy :


Why the cruel myth of the 'blitz spirit' is no model for how to fight 
coronavirus
Wartime leaders disguised the awful reality of being bombed with tales of 
British resolve. It’s no fit approach for this crisis


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/19/myth-blitz-spirit-model-coronavirus


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[ChurchillChat] Re: Review of Churchill and Orwell: The Fight for Freedom

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Dear All,

The  Michigan War Studies Review site has just published a review of 
interest to Churchillians :


Churchill and Orwell: The Fight for Freedom
By Thomas E. Ricks
New York: Penguin, 2017. Pp. 339. ISBN 978???1???59420???613???9.
Review by Adrian R. Lewis, The University of Kansas

http://www.miwsr.com/2020-019.aspx

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Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: Full list of the OB (correct version)

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ston : Houghton Mifflin), 1979. 

xxii, 1504 p. ; index ; 24 cm.

[N°12] Winston S. Churchill. Volume IV : Companion. Part 2 : Documents : The 
Wilderness Years, 1929-1935. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert. London : Heinemann 
(Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1981. 

xviii, 1404 p. ; index ; 24 cm.

[N°13] Winston S. Churchill. Volume IV : Companion. Part 3 : Documents : The 
Coming of War, 1936-1939. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert. London : Heinemann 
(Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1982. 

xx, 1684 p. ; index ; 24 cm.



For Volume VI (Three ‘Churchill War Papers’ volumes) : 



[N°14] The Churchill War Papers. Volume 1 : At the Admiralty, September 
1939-May 1940. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert. 

London : Heinemann (New York : W.W. Norton), 1993. 

xx, 1370 p. ; 1 facsim., maps ; index ; 24 cm.

[N°15] The Churchill War Papers. Volume 2 : Never Surrender, May 1940-December 
1940. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert. 

London : Heinemann (New York : W.W. Norton), 1994. 

xxxii, 1359 p. ; ill., facsims., maps ; index ; 24 cm.

[N°16] The Churchill War Papers. Volume 3 : The Ever-Widening War, 1941. 
(Edited) by Martin Gilbert. 

London : Heinemann (New York : W.W. Norton), 2000. 

lxiv, 1821 p. ; ill., maps ; index ; 24 cm.



For Volume VII (Five ‘Churchill Documents’ volumes) : 



[N°17] The Churchill Documents. Volume 17 : Testing Times, 1942. (Edited) by 
Martin Gilbert. Foreword by Larry P. Ann.

Hillsdale (Michigan) : Hillsdale College Press, 2014.

xxxii, 1652 p. ; index ; 24 cm.

[N°18] The Churchill Documents. Volume 18 : One Continent Redeemed, 
January-August 1943. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert. Preface by Larry P. Ann.

Hillsdale (Michigan) : Hillsdale College Press, 2015.

xxii, 2471 p. ; facsims. ; index ; 24 cm.

[N°19] The Churchill Documents. Volume 19 : Fateful Questions, September 1943 
to April 1944. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert and by Larry P. Ann. Preface by Larry 
P. Ann.

Hillsdale (Michigan) : Hillsdale College Press, 2017.

xxiii, 2728 p. ; index ; 24 cm.

[N°20] The Churchill Documents. Volume 20 : Normandy and Beyond, May-December 
1944. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert and by Larry P. Ann. Preface by Larry P. Ann.

Hillsdale (Michigan) : Hillsdale College Press, 2018.

xxii, 2576 p. ; index ; 24 cm.

[N°21] The Churchill Documents. Volume 21 : The Shadows of Victory, 
January-July 1945. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert and by Larry P. Ann. Preface by 
Larry P. Ann.

Hillsdale (Michigan) : Hillsdale College Press, 2018.

xxx, 2149 p. ; index ; 24 cm.



For Volume VIII (Two ‘Churchill Documents’ volumes) : 



[N°22] The Churchill Documents. Volume 22 : Leader of the Opposition, August 
1945 to October 1951. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert and by Larry P. Ann. Preface 
by Larry P. Ann.

Hillsdale (Michigan) : Hillsdale College Press, 2019. 

xli, 2328 p. ; index ; 24 cm.

[N°23] The Churchill Documents. Volume 23 : Never Flinch, Never Weary, November 
1951 to February 1965. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert and by Larry P. Ann. Preface 
by Larry P. Ann.

Hillsdale (Michigan) : Hillsdale College Press, 2019. 

xxxix, 2488 p. ; index ; 24 cm.




From: Cita Stelzer 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 4:32 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Re: Full list of the OB with the Hillsdale 
editions of the Churchill Documents now entirely published.

Thank you, thank you!
Most useful.
Cita

 

From: 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat  
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 8:05 AM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Re: Full list of the OB with the Hillsdale editions of 
the Churchill Documents now entirely published.

 

 

Dear All, 

 

I received my copy of the final volume in The Churchill Documents (# 23) this 
morning.

 

When I first started to get interested in the OB, the ‘Companions’ stopped with 
vol. V, in 1939, and I never thought I would see the completion of the series : 
we can  all congratulate the Hillsdale team for its dedication and efficiency. 
A stupendous achievement !

 

Now that I have the complete series, I have been able to update the recap which 
I sent some time ago. See below.

 

I hope it will be helpful.

 

With all best wishes,

 

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS

Professor emeritus of British Studies

University of Rouen

76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan

France

antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

 

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor

Royal Historical Society Bibliography

 

Reviews Editor of CERCLES

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THE ‘OFFICIAL BIOGRAPHY’

WINSTON S. CHURCHILL

1966-2019

 

Volume I. Winston S. Churchill : Youth, 1874-1900, by Randolph S. Churchill.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1966. 

xxxvi, 608 p., [32] p. of plates ; ill., facsims., maps, ports. ; index ; 24 cm.

[+Two ‘Companions’ infra]

 

Volume II. Winston S. Churchill : Young Statesman,1901-1914, by Randolph S. 
Churchill.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1967. 

xxix, 775 p, [33] p. o

[ChurchillChat] Re: Full list of the OB with the Hillsdale editions of the Churchill Documents now entirely published.

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear All, 

I received my copy of the final volume in The Churchill Documents (# 23) this 
morning.

When I first started to get interested in the OB, the ‘Companions’ stopped with 
vol. V, in 1939, and I never thought I would see the completion of the series : 
we can  all congratulate the Hillsdale team for its dedication and efficiency. 
A stupendous achievement !

Now that I have the complete series, I have been able to update the recap which 
I sent some time ago. See below.

I hope it will be helpful.

With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
Royal Historical Society Bibliography

Reviews Editor of CERCLES
http://www.cercles.com/review/reviews.html
==



THE ‘OFFICIAL BIOGRAPHY’

WINSTON S. CHURCHILL

1966-2019



Volume I. Winston S. Churchill : Youth, 1874-1900, by Randolph S. Churchill.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1966. 

xxxvi, 608 p., [32] p. of plates ; ill., facsims., maps, ports. ; index ; 24 cm.

[+Two ‘Companions’ infra]



Volume II. Winston S. Churchill : Young Statesman,1901-1914, by Randolph S. 
Churchill.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1967. 

xxix, 775 p, [33] p. of plates ; ill., facsims., maps, ports. ; index; 24 cm.

[+Three ‘Companions’ infra]



Volume III. Winston S. Churchill : The Challenge of War, 1914-1916, by Martin 
Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1971.

xxxvii, 988 p. [33] p. plates ; ill., facsims., maps, ports. ; index ; 24 cm

[+Two ‘Companions’ infra]



Volume IV. Winston S. Churchill : World in Torment, 1916-1922, by Martin 
Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (The Stricken World. Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1975.

xvi, 967 p., [1] leaf of plate, [32] p. of plates ; ill., maps, ports ; index ; 
 24 cm.

[+Three ‘Companions’ infra]



Volume V. Winston S. Churchill : The Prophet of Truth, 1922-1939, by Martin 
Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1976.

xxvii, 1167 p., [1] leaf of plates, [32] p. of plates ; ill., ports. ; index ; 
24 cm.

[+Three ‘Companions’ infra]



Volume VI. Winston S. Churchill : Finest Hour, 1939-1941, by Martin Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1983.

xx, 1308 p., [25] p. of plates ; ill., ports. ; index ; 24 cm.

[+Three ‘Churchill War Papers’ volumes infra]



Volume VII. Winston S. Churchill : Road to Victory, 1941-1945, by Martin 
Gilbert.

London : Heineman (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1986. 

xx, 1417p., [24] p. of plates ; ill., maps, ports. ; index ; 24 cm.

[+Five ‘Churchill Documents’ volumes infra]



Volume VIII. Winston S. Churchill : Never Despair, 1945-1965, by Martin Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1988.

xxvii, 1438 p, [24] p. of plates ; ill, maps, ports ; index ; 24 cm.

[+Two ‘Churchill Documents’ volumes infra]



NB 1: All these titles have been reissued with the same pagination by the 
Hillsdale College Press, Hillsdale (Michigan). Also available in electronic 
format.



 NB 2: The London : Minerva, 1989-1991 paperback reissues have been omitted.







COMPANIONS, WAR PAPERS & DOCUMENT VOLUMES



C The numbers in square brackets [N°x] refer to the full Hillsdale College 
Press The Churchill Documents reissues (with the same pagination) [N°1-16] or 
new volumes [N°17-23].





For Volume I (Two ‘Companions’) : 



[N°1] Winston S. Churchill. Volume I : Companion. Part 1 : 1874-1896. (Edited) 
by Randolph S. Churchill. London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1967. 

xxi, 678 p. ; 24 cm.

[N°2] Winston S. Churchill. Volume I : Companion. Part 2 : 1896-1900. (Edited) 
by Randolph S. Churchill. London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1967. 

[6], 611 p. ; index ; 24 cm.



For Volume II (Three ‘Companions’) : 



[N°3] Winston S. Churchill. Volume II : Companion. Part 1 : 1901-1907. (Edited) 
by Randolph S. Churchill. London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1969. 

xxix, 675 p. ; 24 cm.

[N°4] Winston S. Churchill. Volume II : Companion. Part 2 : 1907-1911. (Edited) 
by Randolph S. Churchill. London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1969. 

vii, 697 p. ; 24 cm.

[N°5] Winston S. Churchill. Volume II : Companion. Part 3 : 1911-1914. (Edited) 
by Randolph S. Churchill. London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1969. 

vii, 776 p. ; index ; 24 cm.



For Volume III (Two ‘Companions’) : 



[N°6] Winston S. Churchill. Volume II : Companion. Part 1 : Documents, July 
1914-April 1915. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert. London : Heinemann (Boston : 
Houghton Mifflin), 1972. 

xi, 838 p. ; 24 cm.

[N°7] Winston S. Churchill. Volume II : Companion. Part 1 : Documents, May 
1915-December 1916. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert. London : Heinemann (Boston : 
Houghton Mifflin), 1972. 

vi, 847 p. ; index ; 24 cm.



For Volume IV (Three ‘Companions’) : 



[N°8] Winston S. Churchill. Volu

[ChurchillChat] Re: "spelling . . . altered in accordance with modern malpractice.”

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear All,

I am reading the superb vol. 22 (1945-1951) of The Churchill Documents from 
end to end, looking for references to Churchill’s views and pronouncements 
on “Europe” during that period (with plenty of fresh material found so far, 
incidentally), and I chanced upon a passage in a letter which led me to 
another subject.


Writing about the proofs of one of the volumes of The Second World War, he 
says :


“Neither do I want my particular spelling of Tsar, etc., to be altered in 
accordance with modern malpractice.” (p. 1175)


This set me thinking about other examples of “modern malpractice” which he 
deprecated, and on reflection the only one that came to mind was Angora / 
Ankara (in part because of the cat, as we know).


Total changes of name, like Constantinople / Istanbul, are a different 
story.


No doubt List Members can add to this embryonic corpus?

With all best wishes for the festive season,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
Royal Historical Society Bibliography

Reviews Editor of CERCLES
http://www.cercles.com/review/reviews.html
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Re: [ChurchillChat] Clop / Klop / Kloppe

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear All,

As a matter of (inconclusive) interest, Elizabeth Nel (née Layton) writes in 
her memoirs that Churchill simply said "Gimme Klop" (p. 14 of the 2007 
reprint).


With all best wishes for the festive season,

A. Capet


-Message d'origine- 
From: 'Dave Turrell' via ChurchillChat

Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2019 1:49 AM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Clop / Klop / Kloppe

I suspect we may be overthinking this.  Whether 'Klip' or 'Clop', I doubt 
Churchill was thinking of the sound of horses' hooves.  He was probably 
thinking of the sound a hole punch makes.


Given that what we are dealing with is an idiosyncratic onomatopoeic 
representation of an inanimate object, unless the record shows Churchill 
spelling it one way or the other, then I would respectfully suggest that 
there is no 'correct' spelling.  I would, however, not personally go for 
'Kloppe', as it might lead to in insufficiently klipped pronunciation.


Merry Christmas to one and all!

Dave

-Original Message-
From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com [mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Riddle

Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 5:36 AM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Clop / Klop / Kloppe

I don’t think so!

As a an ex-Chartwell volunteer and ‘story’ researcher, we always spelt it 
‘klop’. There are many references to Churchill and klop on Google, whereas 
none relating to ‘clop’. Neither word has a dictionary definition in this 
context, but the definition of ‘clop’ gives a hint to Churchill’s usage of 
the word, being the noise made by a horse’s hoof, and that this might be 
considered similar to the noise made by a hole punch.


Just IMHO.

David Riddle
Mobile: 07966 472340
Sent from my iPhone


On 23 Dec 2019, at 23:14, Cita Stelzer  wrote:

Are we agreed then that it is clop and not klop?
Cita Stelzer

-Original Message-
From: 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat

Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 2:21 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Clop / Klop / Kloppe

RE: [ChurchillChat] Re: Mysterious young man in _Darkest Hour_
filmDear Dave,

Many thanks for this correct identification of the young man in the
film

You mention "Clop" : if you have Elizabeth Nel (née Layton)'s memoirs, 
there is a marvellous anecdote about it :


The confusion between the contraption and Kloppe's "fifteen volumes" (p. 
14 of the 2007 reprint).


Best wishes,

A.C.
===

From: 'Dave Turrell' via ChurchillChat
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 7:53 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Re: Mysterious young man in _Darkest
Hour_ film


Dear Antoine,

You can find the script for the film at
https://www.scriptslug.com/assets/uploads/scripts/darkest-hour-2017.pd
f



A quick search seems to indicate that the character in question is
John Evans - Churchill's private secretary.  (Not sure if that's a 'real'
character - I bet Richard knows :-).  Played by Joe Armstrong.

the TRAY passes by - WINSTON’s PRIVATE SECRETARY, JOHN EVANS (35), as
he schools the NEW YOUNG SECRETARY, ELIZABETH LAYTON. Evans, an
immaculately-groomed rake, snobbishly thinks himself infinitely
superior to the Elizabeth Laytons of the world.

JOHN EVANS(to ELIZABETH)...and if he stretches out his hand and says,
“Gimme”, you need to anticipate what he wants -  black pen, red pen,
paper, or “Clop”, that’s his hole punch.



Best,

Dave





-Original Message-
From: 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat
[mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 5:59 AM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Re: Mysterious young man in _Darkest Hour_
film

Dear All,

I am preparing an article on _Darkest Hour_ for a French publication
and I am puzzled by a character in the film.

There is a young man who is often seen near Churchill, and he
initially shows Miss Layton round the 'War Rooms', but he is not named
– I thought he was Jock Colville. But then, there is no ‘Jock Colville’ in 
the cast.


On the other hand, there is a ‘Tom Leonard’ in the cast whose name
does not suggest anything to me. ‘Tom Leonard’ is played by Eric
MacLennan – but his photographs on Google do not look like the young
man I mistook for Jock Colville.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4555426/fullcredits

All very puzzling! I wonder who that young man is supposed to be!

Enlightenment most welcome.

With best wishes to all,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS

Professor emeritus of British Studies

University of Rouen

76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan

France

antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor

Royal Historical Society Bibliography

Reviews Editor of CERCLES

http://www.cercles.com/review/reviews.html

===

Re: [ChurchillChat] Clop / Klop / Kloppe

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

RE: [ChurchillChat] Re: Mysterious young man in _Darkest Hour_ filmDear 
Dave,


Many thanks for this correct identification of the young man in the film

You mention "Clop" : if you have Elizabeth Nel (née Layton)'s memoirs, there 
is a marvellous anecdote about it :


The confusion between the contraption and Kloppe's "fifteen volumes" (p. 14 
of the 2007 reprint).


Best wishes,

A.C.
===

From: 'Dave Turrell' via ChurchillChat
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 7:53 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Re: Mysterious young man in _Darkest Hour_ film


Dear Antoine,

You can find the script for the film at 
https://www.scriptslug.com/assets/uploads/scripts/darkest-hour-2017.pdf




A quick search seems to indicate that the character in question is John 
Evans - Churchill's private secretary.  (Not sure if that's a 'real' 
character - I bet Richard knows :-).  Played by Joe Armstrong.


the TRAY passes by - WINSTON’s PRIVATE SECRETARY, JOHN EVANS (35), as he 
schools the NEW YOUNG SECRETARY, ELIZABETH LAYTON. Evans, an 
immaculately-groomed rake, snobbishly thinks himself infinitely superior to 
the Elizabeth Laytons of the world.


JOHN EVANS(to ELIZABETH)...and if he stretches out his hand and says, 
“Gimme”, you need to anticipate what he wants -  black pen, red pen, paper, 
or “Clop”, that’s his hole punch.




Best,

Dave





-Original Message-
From: 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat 
[mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com]

Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 5:59 AM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Re: Mysterious young man in _Darkest Hour_ film

Dear All,

I am preparing an article on _Darkest Hour_ for a French publication and I 
am puzzled by a character in the film.


There is a young man who is often seen near Churchill, and he initially 
shows Miss Layton round the 'War Rooms', but he is not named – I thought he 
was Jock Colville. But then, there is no ‘Jock Colville’ in the cast.


On the other hand, there is a ‘Tom Leonard’ in the cast whose name does not 
suggest anything to me. ‘Tom Leonard’ is played by Eric MacLennan – but his 
photographs on Google do not look like the young man I mistook for Jock 
Colville.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4555426/fullcredits

All very puzzling! I wonder who that young man is supposed to be!

Enlightenment most welcome.

With best wishes to all,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS

Professor emeritus of British Studies

University of Rouen

76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan

France

antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor

Royal Historical Society Bibliography

Reviews Editor of CERCLES

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Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: Mysterious young man in _Darkest Hour_ film : thanks

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear All,

Many thanks for your most helpful answers.

Yes - the cast identifies the young man as "John Evans".

A fictitious name, as Richard points out : John Martin in real life ?

There may be legal reasons why the producers did not use his real name 
(though they do not hesitate to give that of 'real' politicians).


Who 'Tom Leonard' is in the film will have to remain clouded in mystery for 
the time being.


All very puzzling, as I said initially.

As for what Richard writes : "The subway/underground scene and the private 
visit of the King to WSC are pure fiction, but so beautifully done you can 
forgive them", they form (especially the underground scene) the core of my 
discussion in the article, entitled (in French) 'What do the "invented 
scenes" in _Darkest Hour_ tell us ?'


And I duly refer to Gary Oldman's interview and the Hillsdale review in it.

Thanks again,

A. Capet
==

From: Richard Langworth
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 9:47 PM
To: ChurchillChat
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: Mysterious young man in _Darkest Hour_ film

Dave- Good grub on the filmscript. I cannot find a "John Evans" in the 
literature, including Colville's and Martin's memoirs, but "John Evans'" 
instructions about WSC's requests are on the money. They show how carefully 
the film was scripted. (The subway/underground scene and the private visit 
of the King to WSC are pure fiction, but so beautifully done you can forgive 
them.)


On a visit to Hillsdale College, Gary Oldman explained how he noticed ridges 
worn into the arms of the chair in the War Rooms, where WSC constantly 
drummed his fingernails, and how he tried to work that into his own 
portrayal--which was masterful.


The video of Oldman's talk at Hillsdale is at: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyenAuy7wgg

Our review of the film is at: http://bit.ly/2FMlryZ




On Monday, December 23, 2019 at 12:08:10 PM UTC-8, Dave Turrell wrote:

You can find the script for the film at 
https://www.scriptslug.com/assets/uploads/scripts/darkest-hour-2017.pdf




A quick search seems to indicate that the character in question is John 
Evans - Churchill's private secretary.  (Not sure if that's a 'real' 
character - I bet Richard knows :-).  Played by Joe Armstrong.


the TRAY passes by - WINSTON’s PRIVATE SECRETARY, JOHN EVANS (35), as he 
schools the NEW YOUNG SECRETARY, ELIZABETH LAYTON. Evans, an 
immaculately-groomed rake, snobbishly thinks himself infinitely superior to 
the Elizabeth Laytons of the world.


JOHN EVANS(to ELIZABETH)...and if he stretches out his hand and says, 
“Gimme”, you need to anticipate what he wants -  black pen, red pen, paper, 
or “Clop”, that’s his hole punch.













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[ChurchillChat] Re: Mysterious young man in _Darkest Hour_ film

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear All,

I am preparing an article on _Darkest Hour_ for a French publication and I
am puzzled by a character in the film.

There is a young man who is often seen near Churchill, and he initially
shows Miss Layton round the 'War Rooms', but he is not named – I thought he
was Jock Colville. But then, there is no ‘Jock Colville’ in the cast.

On the other hand, there is a ‘Tom Leonard’ in the cast whose name does not
suggest anything to me. ‘Tom Leonard’ is played by Eric MacLennan – but his
photographs on Google do not look like the young man I mistook for Jock
Colville.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4555426/fullcredits

All very puzzling! I wonder who that young man is supposed to be!

Enlightenment most welcome.

With best wishes to all,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
Royal Historical Society Bibliography

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Re: [ChurchillChat] Passports : thanks

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear Allen,

Many thanks - of course I meant a British passport, not honorary ones.

I wonder whether his 1893, 1918 and 1940 passports bear the usual foreign 
stamps. If Yes, they must be extremely numerous.


I do not know how long current UK passports are valid for. I suppose the law 
has changed and that they used to be valid for a longer period than now. In 
that case, the three passports at Cambridge might well be all he had (though 
he went to France as a boy, before 1893 - but at the time perhaps passports 
were not needed).


All very fascinating !

A pity they are not displayed (one at least opened) at Chartwell or the 
Churchill Museum.



With all best wishes,

A.C.

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
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From: Director, Churchill Archives Centre
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:50 AM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Passports


Dear all,

Further to your discussion, a quick search of our catalogue reveals that his 
archives contain passports for Churchill for

All best wishes,

Allen



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[ChurchillChat] Re: Churchill’s passport

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear All,

This afternoon, a friend asked me whether Churchill had a passport and if 
Yes where it was now.


I had never thought about it and I had no answer.

Any clue ?

With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
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Re: [ChurchillChat] Secrets of the National Trust (UK C5)

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear David and Nigel,

Thank you both for the time and trouble you have been taking over this - but 
please now forget about it : too much trouble !


Best,

A.C.

https://www.lisez.com/livre-grand-format/churchill/9782262065355

==

From: David Riddle
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 1:06 AM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Secrets of the National Trust (UK C5) - snippet 
from the Chartwell Web site works OK


MP3 no good for video. MP4 or MPEG.


-
David Riddle
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-

On 8 Aug 2019, at 16:21, Nigel Guest  wrote:


Dear Antoine

So sorry to send you down a blind alley. Could understand if this was post 
'Brexit'!!

Perhaps you could use a VPN and choose a UK server to link to the site.
I will see if I am able to record the item to my computer and convert it to 
MP3, but don't hold your breath.


Best wishes

Nigel


On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 11:20 PM 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat 
 wrote:


Dear Nigel,

Many thanks  - I registered OK, but at the crucial stage a fatal message 
arrvied :


???Sorry, but you must be located in the British Isles to view this content???.

Best wishes,

A.C.
=

From: Nigel Guest
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 10:45 AM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Secrets of the National Trust (UK C5) - snippet 
from the Chartwell Web site works OK


Could try My5.tv which has a catch up facility.

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 10:44 PM 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat 
 wrote:

Dear David,

Thanks - frustratingly too short, but it worked beautifully.

Best wishes,

A.C.
==

From: David Riddle
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 7:40 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Secrets of the National Trust (UK C5) - replay
facility ?

Here???s a snippet from the Chartwell Web site that should be viewable.

https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/chartwell/features/secrets-of-the-national-trust-with-alan-titchmarsh#


David Riddle
Mobile: 07966 472340
Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Aug 2019, at 10:38, 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat
 wrote:


Dear David,

Thanks - sounds very interesting.

Is there a YouTube or replay facility somewhere on the Web ?

With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
Royal Historical Society Bibliography

Reviews Editor of CERCLES
http://www.cercles.com/review/reviews.html
==


-Message d'origine- From: David Riddle
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 5:21 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Secrets of the National Trust (UK C5)

It may be of interest to members to look out for a TV program broadcast last
Tuesday as part of a series on National Trust properties (Secrets of the
National Trust) on C5 in the UK. It features the well-known gardener turned
general presenter Alan Titchmarsh and visited Chartwell on a beautiful snowy
winter???s day.. quite rare this year! There were some additional off-site
inserts covering some of Churchill???s projects including the plans for a
post-invasion guerrilla sabotage army operating out of underground bunkers
and the cliff-top gun emplacements between Walmer and Dover.

All-in-all a very well-done program that has ensured full-houses at
Chartwell in the fine weather this week!

David Riddle
Mobile: 07966 472340
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [ChurchillChat] Secrets of the National Trust (UK C5) - snippet from the Chartwell Web site works OK

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear Nigel,

Many thanks  - I registered OK, but at the crucial stage a fatal message 
arrvied :

“Sorry, but you must be located in the British Isles to view this content”.

Best wishes,

A.C.
=

From: Nigel Guest 
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 10:45 AM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Secrets of the National Trust (UK C5) - snippet 
from the Chartwell Web site works OK

Could try My5.tv which has a catch up facility.

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 10:44 PM 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat 
 wrote:

  Dear David,

  Thanks - frustratingly too short, but it worked beautifully.

  Best wishes,

  A.C.
  ==

  From: David Riddle
  Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 7:40 PM
  To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Secrets of the National Trust (UK C5) - replay 
  facility ?

  Here???s a snippet from the Chartwell Web site that should be viewable.

  
https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/chartwell/features/secrets-of-the-national-trust-with-alan-titchmarsh#


  David Riddle
  Mobile: 07966 472340
  Sent from my iPhone

  On 3 Aug 2019, at 10:38, 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat 
   wrote:


  Dear David,

  Thanks - sounds very interesting.

  Is there a YouTube or replay facility somewhere on the Web ?

  With all best wishes,

  Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
  Professor emeritus of British Studies
  University of Rouen
  76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
  France
  antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

  'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
  Royal Historical Society Bibliography

  Reviews Editor of CERCLES
  http://www.cercles.com/review/reviews.html
  ==


  -Message d'origine- From: David Riddle
  Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 5:21 PM
  To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [ChurchillChat] Secrets of the National Trust (UK C5)

  It may be of interest to members to look out for a TV program broadcast last 
  Tuesday as part of a series on National Trust properties (Secrets of the 
  National Trust) on C5 in the UK. It features the well-known gardener turned 
  general presenter Alan Titchmarsh and visited Chartwell on a beautiful snowy 
  winter???s day.. quite rare this year! There were some additional off-site 
  inserts covering some of Churchill???s projects including the plans for a 
  post-invasion guerrilla sabotage army operating out of underground bunkers 
  and the cliff-top gun emplacements between Walmer and Dover.

  All-in-all a very well-done program that has ensured full-houses at 
  Chartwell in the fine weather this week!

  David Riddle
  Mobile: 07966 472340
  Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [ChurchillChat] Secrets of the National Trust (UK C5) - snippet from the Chartwell Web site works OK

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear David,

Thanks - frustratingly too short, but it worked beautifully.

Best wishes,

A.C.
==

From: David Riddle
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 7:40 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Secrets of the National Trust (UK C5) - replay 
facility ?


Here???s a snippet from the Chartwell Web site that should be viewable.

https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/chartwell/features/secrets-of-the-national-trust-with-alan-titchmarsh#


David Riddle
Mobile: 07966 472340
Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Aug 2019, at 10:38, 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat 
 wrote:



Dear David,

Thanks - sounds very interesting.

Is there a YouTube or replay facility somewhere on the Web ?

With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
Royal Historical Society Bibliography

Reviews Editor of CERCLES
http://www.cercles.com/review/reviews.html
==


-Message d'origine- From: David Riddle
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 5:21 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Secrets of the National Trust (UK C5)

It may be of interest to members to look out for a TV program broadcast last 
Tuesday as part of a series on National Trust properties (Secrets of the 
National Trust) on C5 in the UK. It features the well-known gardener turned 
general presenter Alan Titchmarsh and visited Chartwell on a beautiful snowy 
winter???s day.. quite rare this year! There were some additional off-site 
inserts covering some of Churchill???s projects including the plans for a 
post-invasion guerrilla sabotage army operating out of underground bunkers 
and the cliff-top gun emplacements between Walmer and Dover.


All-in-all a very well-done program that has ensured full-houses at 
Chartwell in the fine weather this week!


David Riddle
Mobile: 07966 472340
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [ChurchillChat] Secrets of the National Trust (UK C5) - replay facility ?

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear David,

Thanks - sounds very interesting.

Is there a YouTube or replay facility somewhere on the Web ?

With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
Royal Historical Society Bibliography

Reviews Editor of CERCLES
http://www.cercles.com/review/reviews.html
==


-Message d'origine- 
From: David Riddle

Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 5:21 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Secrets of the National Trust (UK C5)

It may be of interest to members to look out for a TV program broadcast last 
Tuesday as part of a series on National Trust properties (Secrets of the 
National Trust) on C5 in the UK. It features the well-known gardener turned 
general presenter Alan Titchmarsh and visited Chartwell on a beautiful snowy 
winter???s day.. quite rare this year! There were some additional off-site 
inserts covering some of Churchill???s projects including the plans for a 
post-invasion guerrilla sabotage army operating out of underground bunkers 
and the cliff-top gun emplacements between Walmer and Dover.


All-in-all a very well-done program that has ensured full-houses at 
Chartwell in the fine weather this week!


David Riddle
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Sent from my iPhone

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[ChurchillChat] The Churchill Documents (original titles)

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear Todd ,

Thanks for this most useful additional information.

In fact, the first Heinemann editions had no subtitles for vols. III, IV & V
- only the dates.

A.C.

===

From: Todd Ronnei
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 2:29 AM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: The Churchill Documents ("concordance")


It should be noted that the original title of Volume IV was The Stricken
World.

-Todd Ronnei


On 6/26/19 6:27 PM, Cita Stelzer wrote:


Thank you SO much, Antoine!
Cita





From: 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat
mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 7:38 AM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Re: The Churchill Documents ("concordance")







Dear All,







Our recent discussion on the ???Official Biography??? prompted me to tackle a
job which I have had in mind for a long time.







Even though vols. 22 & 23 of The Churchill Documents will only appear later
this year, I hope the compilation below will prove useful to List Members.











With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
Royal Historical Society Bibliography



https://www.lisez.com/livre-grand-format/churchill/9782262065355




==













THE ???OFFICIAL BIOGRAPHY???

WINSTON S. CHURCHILL

1966-2019



Volume I. Winston S. Churchill : Youth, 1874-1900, by Randolph S. Churchill.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1966.

xxxvi, 608 p., [32] p. of plates ; ill., facsims., maps, ports. ; index ; 24
cm.

[+Two ???Companions??? infra]



Volume II. Winston S. Churchill : Young Statesman,1901-1914, by Randolph S.
Churchill.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1967.

xxix, 775 p, [33] p. of plates ; ill., facsims., maps, ports. ; index; 24
cm.

[+Three ???Companions??? infra]



Volume III. Winston S. Churchill : The Challenge of War, 1914-1916, by
Martin Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1971.

xxxvii, 988 p. [33] p. plates ; ill., facsims., maps, ports. ; index ; 24 cm

[+Two ???Companions??? infra]



Volume IV. Winston S. Churchill : World in Torment, 1916-1922, by Martin
Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1975.

xvi, 967 p., [1] leaf of plate, [32] p. of plates ; ill., maps, ports ;
index ;  24 cm.

[+Three ???Companions??? infra]



Volume V. Winston S. Churchill : The Prophet of Truth, 1922-1939, by Martin
Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1976.

xxvii, 1167 p., [1] leaf of plates, [32] p. of plates ; ill., ports. ; index
; 24 cm.

[+Three ???Companions??? infra]



Volume VI. Winston S. Churchill : Finest Hour, 1939-1941, by Martin Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1983.

xx, 1308 p., [25] p. of plates ; ill., ports. ; index ; 24 cm.

[+Three ???Churchill War Papers??? volumes infra]



Volume VII. Winston S. Churchill : Road to Victory, 1941-1945, by Martin
Gilbert.

London : Heineman (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1986.

xx, 1417p., [24] p. of plates ; ill., maps, ports. ; index ; 24 cm.

[+Five ???Churchill Documents??? volumes infra]



Volume VIII. Winston S. Churchill : Never Despair, 1945-1965, by Martin
Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1988.

xxvii, 1438 p, [24] p. of plates ; ill, maps, ports ; index ; 24 cm.

[+Two ???Churchill Documents??? volumes infra]



NB 1: All these titles have been reissued with the same pagination by the
Hillsdale College Press, Hillsdale (Michigan). Also available in electronic
format.



NB 2: The London : Minerva, 1989-1991 paperback reissues have been omitted.







COMPANIONS, WAR PAPERS & DOCUMENT VOLUMES



C The numbers in square brackets [N??x] refer to the full Hillsdale College
Press The Churchill Documents reissues (with the same pagination) [N??1-16]
or new volumes [N??17-21 + 22-23 (forthcoming)].





For Volume I (Two ???Companions???) :

[N??1] Winston S. Churchill. Volume I : Companion. Part 1 : 1874-1896.
(Edited) by Randolph S. Churchill. London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton
Mifflin), 1967.

xxi, 678 p. ; 24 cm.

[N??2] Winston S. Churchill. Volume I : Companion. Part 2 : 1896-1900.
(Edited) by Randolph S. Churchill. London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton
Mifflin), 1967.

[6], 611 p. ; index ; 24 cm.



For Volume II (Three ???Companions???) :

[N??3] Winston S. Churchill. Volume II : Companion. Part 1 : 1901-1907.
(Edited) by Randolph S. Churchill. London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton
Mifflin), 1969.

xxix, 675 p. ; 24 cm.

[N??4] Winston S. Churchill. Volume II : Companion. Part 2 : 1907-1911.
(Edited) by Randolph S. Churchill. London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton
Mifflin), 1969.

vii, 697 p. ; 24 cm.

[N??5] Winston S. Churchill. Volume II : Companion. Part 3 : 1911-1914.
(Edited) 

[ChurchillChat] Re: The Churchill Documents ("concordance")

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear All,
Our recent discussion on the ‘Official Biography’ prompted me to tackle a job 
which I have had in mind for a long time.
Even though vols. 22 & 23 of The Churchill Documents will only appear later 
this year, I hope the compilation below will prove useful to List Members.
With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
Royal Historical Society Bibliography


https://www.lisez.com/livre-grand-format/churchill/9782262065355

==




THE ‘OFFICIAL BIOGRAPHY’

WINSTON S. CHURCHILL

1966-2019



Volume I. Winston S. Churchill : Youth, 1874-1900, by Randolph S. Churchill.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1966. 

xxxvi, 608 p., [32] p. of plates ; ill., facsims., maps, ports. ; index ; 24 cm.

[+Two ‘Companions’ infra]



Volume II. Winston S. Churchill : Young Statesman,1901-1914, by Randolph S. 
Churchill.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1967. 

xxix, 775 p, [33] p. of plates ; ill., facsims., maps, ports. ; index; 24 cm.

[+Three ‘Companions’ infra]



Volume III. Winston S. Churchill : The Challenge of War, 1914-1916, by Martin 
Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1971.

xxxvii, 988 p. [33] p. plates ; ill., facsims., maps, ports. ; index ; 24 cm

[+Two ‘Companions’ infra]



Volume IV. Winston S. Churchill : World in Torment, 1916-1922, by Martin 
Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1975.

xvi, 967 p., [1] leaf of plate, [32] p. of plates ; ill., maps, ports ; index ; 
 24 cm.

[+Three ‘Companions’ infra]



Volume V. Winston S. Churchill : The Prophet of Truth, 1922-1939, by Martin 
Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1976.

xxvii, 1167 p., [1] leaf of plates, [32] p. of plates ; ill., ports. ; index ; 
24 cm.

[+Three ‘Companions’ infra]



Volume VI. Winston S. Churchill : Finest Hour, 1939-1941, by Martin Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1983.

xx, 1308 p., [25] p. of plates ; ill., ports. ; index ; 24 cm.

[+Three ‘Churchill War Papers’ volumes infra]



Volume VII. Winston S. Churchill : Road to Victory, 1941-1945, by Martin 
Gilbert.

London : Heineman (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1986. 

xx, 1417p., [24] p. of plates ; ill., maps, ports. ; index ; 24 cm.

[+Five ‘Churchill Documents’ volumes infra]



Volume VIII. Winston S. Churchill : Never Despair, 1945-1965, by Martin Gilbert.

London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1988.

xxvii, 1438 p, [24] p. of plates ; ill, maps, ports ; index ; 24 cm.

[+Two ‘Churchill Documents’ volumes infra]



NB 1: All these titles have been reissued with the same pagination by the 
Hillsdale College Press, Hillsdale (Michigan). Also available in electronic 
format.



 NB 2: The London : Minerva, 1989-1991 paperback reissues have been omitted.







COMPANIONS, WAR PAPERS & DOCUMENT VOLUMES



C The numbers in square brackets [N°x] refer to the full Hillsdale College 
Press The Churchill Documents reissues (with the same pagination) [N°1-16] or 
new volumes [N°17-21 + 22-23 (forthcoming)].





For Volume I (Two ‘Companions’) : 

[N°1] Winston S. Churchill. Volume I : Companion. Part 1 : 1874-1896. (Edited) 
by Randolph S. Churchill. London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1967. 

xxi, 678 p. ; 24 cm.

[N°2] Winston S. Churchill. Volume I : Companion. Part 2 : 1896-1900. (Edited) 
by Randolph S. Churchill. London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1967. 

[6], 611 p. ; index ; 24 cm.



For Volume II (Three ‘Companions’) : 

[N°3] Winston S. Churchill. Volume II : Companion. Part 1 : 1901-1907. (Edited) 
by Randolph S. Churchill. London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1969. 

xxix, 675 p. ; 24 cm.

[N°4] Winston S. Churchill. Volume II : Companion. Part 2 : 1907-1911. (Edited) 
by Randolph S. Churchill. London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1969. 

vii, 697 p. ; 24 cm.

[N°5] Winston S. Churchill. Volume II : Companion. Part 3 : 1911-1914. (Edited) 
by Randolph S. Churchill. London : Heinemann (Boston : Houghton Mifflin), 1969. 

vii, 776 p. ; index ; 24 cm.



For Volume III (Two ‘Companions’) : 

[N°6] Winston S. Churchill. Volume II : Companion. Part 1 : Documents, July 
1914-April 1915. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert. London : Heinemann (Boston : 
Houghton Mifflin), 1972. 

xi, 838 p. ; 24 cm.

[N°7] Winston S. Churchill. Volume II : Companion. Part 1 : Documents, May 
1915-December 1916. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert. London : Heinemann (Boston : 
Houghton Mifflin), 1972. 

vi, 847 p. ; index ; 24 cm.



For Volume IV (Three ‘Companions’) : 

[N°8] Winston S. Churchill. Volume IV : Companion. Part 1 : Documents, January 
1917-June 1919. (Edited) by Martin Gilbert. London : Heinemann (Boston : 
Houghton Mifflin), 1977. 

xxiii, 720p ; maps ; 24 cm.

[N°9] Winston S. Churchill. Volume IV : Companion. Part 2 : D

Re: [ChurchillChat] The Churchill Documents ("concordance")

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear Bob,

I believe you can use the following "concordance" :

Companions to OB 1-3 = Hillsdale Churchill Documents 1-7
Companions to OB 4-5 = Hillsdale Churchill Documents 8-13
Churchill War Papers (for vol. 6 of the OB) = Hillsdale Churchill Documents 
14-16

New : Hillsdale Churchill Documents 17-21 = for vol. 7 of the OB
New : Hillsdale Churchill Documents 22-23 = for vol. 8 of the OB

So, you need to acquire The Churchill Documents 8-23 to have a complete set.

With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Professor emeritus of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

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From: 'Bob Allen' via ChurchillChat
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 5:09 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] The Churchill Documents and Future Projects

I have a question for anyone in the group who can help. I have the entire 
8-volume biography. It is from several publishers, so it is in various 
forms, from hard- to paperback. That's okay with me since I am not a 
collector, just an avid reader of the jolly old gent. As long as I have to 
entire content, I am happy. I also have the companion volumes for bio vols. 
1-3. The problem I am having is with the remainder. I know that many are 
available from Hillsdale, but the descriptions don't match this from the 
original bio companions. I also know that I cannot afford the WWII 
companions as I have searched for these and have not found them in my price 
range (being a retired public school teacher). I can, however quite well 
afford the Hillsdale editions. But that is where the confusion over their 
arrangement and descriptions begin to confuse me. Can someone help me so I 
can once again sleep at night rather than lying there in a muddled state? My 
thanks would be profound.



Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 13:32, 'Peter D. Wrobel' via ChurchillChat
 wrote:
Speaking of long term projects, does anyone have an update on when the new 
edition of The River War is expected?  Thanks.


Peter Wrobel.


Sent from my iPhone XS Max

On Jun 18, 2019, at 9:33 AM, Richard Langworth  
wrote:



THE END IS NIGH!

Sandy Finlayson writes: "Is there any news on when the next Churchill 
Documents volume will be released?"


The printer expects to ship Volume 22 ("The Opposition Years," August 
1945-October 1951) in July. Let's say availability by September. The final 
Volume 23 ("Never Flinch, Never Weary," November 1951-January 1965) will 
appear in the autumn. Like previous volumes, each will sell for only $60, 
well under cost, but commercial considerations are not the priority. All 
volumes to date are available from Hillsdale College Bookstore.


Both volumes, well over 2500 pages, use a special paper designed to be thin 
enough to bind, but not so thin as to cause "bleed-through" from print on 
the other side.


Late last March, all of us proofreaders, kibitzers and editors read the 
final document (Lady Churchill to Prime Minister Harold Wilson, 9 February 
1965), and suddenly realized: IT'S OVER. The longest biography on the 
planet, 15 million words, has ended, 57 years after Randolph Churchill set 
to work. If he were here, I said on the recent Hillsdale Cruise, he would 
probably say, "What took you so long?"


Well, what took so long was that Martin Gilbert found one huge pile of 
stuff. There is a "wodge" of documents virtually for every day of 
Churchill's life. We had a gala banquet in London to celebrate Randolph, 
Martin, Dr. Larry Arnn and the Great Work, attended by all who had a hand in 
it. Among them was Lady Gilbert (Esther), who spoke eloquently of Martin, 
whose memory we cherish across the years. Her remarks and others will be up 
on winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu shortly. It was a moment.


Now this is not the end, or even the beginning of the end. Plans are afoot 
for further works, including a new edition of the Collected Essays???expanded 
from the original four volumes to many more, thanks to new material in the 
Ronald Cohen collection and the Gilbert Papers, now acquired by Hillsdale. 
Some of it represents an "unknown canon" of obscure Churchill works, not 
seen since first publication. Like the OB, there will be electronic as well 
as print editions, and an expanded online facility to ease research for 
students and scholars.


If anyone would like to help support this great work, and have their name on 
the wall in our new Archives Atrium, please contact me at 
rlangwo...@hillsdale.edu.


Richard M. Langworth CBE
Senior Fellow, Hillsdale College
Churchill Project




winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu
richardlangworth.com





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[ChurchillChat] A 1952 controversy between Randolph S. Churchill and John F. Kennedy

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Winston Churchill's son received this fiery letter from JFK now up for auction

IrishCentral Staff 

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Jun 17, 2019 



John F. KennedyGetty Images

A letter from John F. Kennedy to Winston Churchill’s son has been found and is 
now up for auction.

In the letter, dated June 13, 1952, eight years before he would be elected 
president of the U.S., Kennedy fires back at Randolph Churchill who had 
publicly denounced America’s “holier-than-thou” attitude over the 1938 Munich 
Agreement, which was broken by Adolf Hitler, leading to World War II.

In a letter published in the June 9, 1952 issue of Time magazine, the British 
politician  claimed that the United Kingdom “had no more moral or legal 
obligation” than the United States to  to protect Czechoslovakia from the Nazis.

Read More: President John F Kennedy’s final autograph is up for auction

In the four-page letter, Kennedy argued that Britain and France had closer ties 
to the country and accused Britain of showing “tardiness” towards rearming 
against the threat of the Nazis.

Kennedy’s letter came on top of his thesis Why England Slept, published in 
1940, which examined Great Britain’s perceived failure to respond to the threat 
from Germany after the First World War, the Daily Mail reports.



2 

Photograph of Randolph Churchill by Cecil Beaton. Credit: Wikipedia/Public 
Domain

In the draft letter sent to Time magazine, Kennedy wrote: 'Randolph S. 
Churchill denounces the "holier-than-thou" attitude adopted by some Americans 
towards the English in regard to Munich and states that England "had no more 
moral or legal obligation" to defend Czechoslovakia than had the United States.

'Mr Churchill implies that the respective positions of Great Britain and the 
United States towards Czechoslovakia were on a par.

'As a member of the League of Nations, England had an obligation towards 
collective security that the United States had not seen fit to assume.

Read More: New JFK library podcast to bring John F Kennedy’s life to new 
audiences

'More important was Britain's military alliance with France... which although 
it did not guarantee Czechoslovakia against aggression, made it inevitable that 
if France went to war... England would be drawn in.

'Thus England was deeply committed, by her treaty ties with France and by her 
official actions, to the settlement of the issues at stake.

'That the British chose peace at this time rather than war is not, in my 
opinion, to their discredit, considering the poor condition of their armaments.

'...the criticism directed against Munich could have been directed with more 
accuracy at Britain's tardiness in rearming than against the pact itself.'

The draft letter is up for auction with US auctioneers Lion Heart Autographs.

 


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[ChurchillChat] John Winston Spencer Churchill, 12, accompanied D-Day veteran Ronald Clements at Ver-sur-Mer in France

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Dear All,

In the Daily Mail yesterday :

John Winston Spencer Churchill (left), 12, accompanied veteran Ronald
Clements (right) at Ver-sur-Mer in France today




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[ChurchillChat] Fw: ODNB - Life of the Day : Sarah Churchill [née Jenyns], duchess of Marlborough (1660–1744), politician and courtier

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Free access all day today for

Sarah Churchill [n??e Jenyns], duchess of Marlborough (1660???1744), politician 
and courtier, on the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography :


http://www.oxforddnb.com/viewbydoi/10.1093/ref:odnb/5405


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Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: Darkest Hour: How Churchill Brought England Back from the Brink. (book)

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Dear David,

Many thanks - most enlightening !

I wonder why the film gives the opposite (and correct) impression  . . .

In any case, I will now forward this excellenty substantiated review to my 
French colleague.


Best wishes,

A.C.
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Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: Darkest Hour: How Churchill Brought England 
Back from the Brink. (book)


A.C.,

See our review in FH 178:

https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour/finest-hour-178/books-arts-curiosities-war-cabinet/

David
On Sunday, June 2, 2019, 12:43:27 PM PDT, 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat 
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Dear All,

A French colleague asks me whether I can recommend :

Darkest Hour: How Churchill Brought England Back from the Brink.
by Anthony McCarten

Unfortunately , though I saw the film three times, I have not read the book.

Any advice from List Members who have ?

With all best wishes,

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University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
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[ChurchillChat] Re: Darkest Hour: How Churchill Brought England Back from the Brink. (book)

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Dear All,

A French colleague asks me whether I can recommend :

Darkest Hour: How Churchill Brought England Back from the Brink.
by Anthony McCarten

Unfortunately , though I saw the film three times, I have not read the book.

Any advice from List Members who have ?

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[ChurchillChat] Re: Sir Winston Churchill's cigar box at Blenheim Palace

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Sir Winston Churchill's cigar box at Blenheim Palace

The ornate box, which is believed to be worth more than £1m, is part of a 
new exhibition on the former Prime Minister at his birthplace in Woodstock.


Oxford Mail

Text and photos:

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/17611142.sir-winston-churchills-cigar-box-at-blenheim-palace-exhibition/?fbclid=IwAR1G9nhFR7_ViJ0DlJ6I-4dI7f3L1Wd759ODNzxG9fjx_qt7gzXOOL2Yqwc



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[ChurchillChat] Re: "Alone was never Churchill’s hope or wish"

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Dear All,

Interesting reference to Churchill and June 1940 by the former Conservative 
minister Michael Heseltine :


As I told marchers at last Saturday’s demonstration in London, I dismiss 
with contempt the image of us as an island wrapped in a union jack, glorying 
in the famous phrase that captured, for so many, Winston Churchill’s spirit 
of defiance in 1940: “Very well, alone”. I was there. I saw our army 
evacuated, our cities bombed, our convoys sunk. Churchill did everything in 
his power to end this isolation. Alone was never Churchill’s hope or wish: 
it was his fear.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/25/theresa-may-leader-name-only-britain-brexit

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[ChurchillChat] Re: 'Die britische Europa-Politik von Winston Churchill bis David Cameron"

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A book chapter which might interest List Members who can read German:

Kielinger, Thomas. 'Die britische Europa-Politik von Winston Churchill bis 
David Cameron : Ein Beitrag zur Debatte um das EU-Referendum am 23.Juni 
2016'. In Kellerhals, Andreas [Editor]. 70 Jahre Churchill-Rede in Zürich - 
Europa wohin? : Referate zu Fragen der Zukunft Europas 2016. Zürich : 
Referate zu Fragen der Zukunft Europas, 2017 : 69-86.



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[ChurchillChat] Proceedings of the 2015 Churchill Conference at the Sorbonne and Invalides, Paris

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Dear All,

The Proceedings of the 2015 Churchill Conference at the Sorbonne and 
Invalides, Paris, have just appeared :


Winston Churchill: At War and Thinking of War before 1939
Edited by B.J.C. McKercher & Antoine Capet
Hardcover. Routledge, 2019.
9780367133030
£115

Table of Contents

Introduction (B. J. C. McKercher and Antoine Capet) 1-14
1. At War on the Nile: What Winston Churchill Learned from the River War 
(James W. Muller) 15-63
2. "A dangerous, if not malignant design": Winston Churchill and the German 
Naval Challenge before the Great War (John H. Maurer) 64-80
3. "By God, I will make them fight!" Winston Churchill and Britain’s 
Decision for War in 1914 (John W. Young) 81-101
4. Churchill's Downfall in 1915: The British Press and the Dardanelles 
Campaign (Christopher M. Bell) 102-118
5. What Churchill and de Gaulle Learned from the Great War (Will Morrissey) 
119-126
6. The Limitations of the Politician-Historian: Winston Churchill, 
Rearmament, Appeasement, and the Origins of the Second World War (B. J. C. 
McKercher) 127-152

7. Winston Churchill and the Golden Age of Journalism (Richard Toye) 153-168
8. Winston Churchill, France and the Middle East (Warren Dockter) 169-184
Consolidated Bibliography (A. Capet) 185-199
Index 200-206

https://www.routledge.com/Winston-Churchill-At-War-and-Thinking-of-War-before-1939-1st-Edition/McKercher-Capet/p/book/9780367133030

With best wishes to all,

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[ChurchillChat] Re: Here we go again : "Winston Churchill was a villain"

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Winston Churchill was a villain, says John McDonnell

Shadow chancellor condemns wartime PM over his role in quelling of 1910 
riots in Wales


Wed 13 Feb 2019

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/13/winston-churchill-was-more-villain-than-hero-says-john-mcdonnell?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVS19XZWVrZGF5cy0xOTAyMTQ%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&CMP=GTUK_email 



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[ChurchillChat] Re: Churchill's legacy in the UK

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Dear All,

A recent long text by a Dundee University scholar on Churchill's legacy in 
the UK :


Why Churchill still matters
The power of the past and the postponement of the future

https://www.eurozine.com/churchill-still-matters/


With all best wishes,

Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
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[ChurchillChat] Re: Why Churchill still matters (text by a Dundee University scholar)

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A long text by a Dundee University scholar on Churchill's legacy in the UK :

Why Churchill still matters
The power of the past and the postponement of the future

https://www.eurozine.com/churchill-still-matters/


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[ChurchillChat] Re: Churchill & Brexit again in today's Observer

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Churchill & Brexit again in today's Observer :

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/09/david-lammy-brexit-is-a-betrayal

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Re: [ChurchillChat] Andrew Roberts Interview : thanks

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Dear Brad,

Excellent ! Many thanks.

"Churchill was the only one of his four Prime Ministers he called by his 
Christian name" : I did not know !


(I will add that in the English version of my Dictionnaire under George VI's 
entry . . .)


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From: Brad Tolppanen
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 4:05 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Andrew Roberts Interview


Dear All,

Andrew Roberts was recently interviewed for my Churchill blog about his new 
biography Churchill: Walking with Destiny. I thank Andrew for sharing his 
thoughts about Churchill.


The interview is available at:

https://winstonchurchillblog.wordpress.com/2018/11/19/andrew-roberts-author-interview/

Best,

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[ChurchillChat] Astronaut Scott Kelly apologises after quoting Winston Churchill on Twitter

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Seen today :

Astronaut Scott Kelly apologises after quoting Winston Churchill on Twitter

https://www.indy100.com/article/astronaut-scott-kelly-winston-churchill-quote-twitter-8575146

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[ChurchillChat] Forthcoming exhibition at the Folger Library : Churchill's Shakespeare

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Forthcoming exhibition at the Folger Library :

Churchill's Shakespeare

https://www.folger.edu/exhibitions/churchills-shakespeare?utm_source=wordfly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=WhatsOnOctober2018&utm_content=version_A&promo=7660


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[ChurchillChat] Churchill : Military Genius or Menace?

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Dear All,

Announced by History Press for release at the end of this month:

-Napier, Stephen. Churchill : Military Genius or Menace? Stroud: History 
Press, 2018.


https://www.thehistorypress.co.uk/publication/churchill/9780750986847/


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[ChurchillChat] Re: the President's forthcoming visit to Blenheim Palace in the _Daily Mirror_

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Dear All,

Yesterday's _Daily Mirror_ ran a story on the President's forthcoming visit 
to Blenheim Palace :


Donald Trump visits Blenheim Palace - what is it and why will he love its 
link to Churchill?


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/donald-trump-visits-blenheim-palace-12865491


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[ChurchillChat] Re: Cigar Aficionado - Theme Issue : Churchill

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Dear All,

An American friend has just sent me photocopies of

Cigar Aficionado, vol. 26 no. 4 (June 2018)

Theme Issue : Churchill (with Gary Oldman on the cover)

Lee Pollock is among the contributors.

I thought some of you in the USA might be interested in getting a copy 
($6.95).


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Re: [ChurchillChat] Gallipoli again

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Dear All,

Seen on the BBC site today :

Austria to shut seven 'political' mosques and expel imams


. . . Some mosques are suspected of having links to Turkish nationalists. In 
April images emerged showing children in Turkish army uniforms re-enacting 
the World War One Battle of Gallipoli. . .


The Gallipoli re-enactment performance took place in a Vienna mosque 
reported to be run by ATIB. The WW1 battle, one of the last victories of the 
Ottoman Empire, stopped Allied forces reaching its capital, Constantinople.
Austrian media report (in German) that the child actors played dead and were 
covered with Turkish flags.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44410597


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[ChurchillChat] Re: Antony Beevor: the greatest war movie ever – and the ones I can't bear

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Dear All,

Today's Guardian has a long article which alludes to _Darkest Hour_ :

Antony Beevor: the greatest war movie ever – and the ones I can't bear

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/may/29/antony-beevor-the-greatest-war-movie-ever-and-the-ones-i-cant-bear?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=276491&subid=5885693&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2


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[ChurchillChat] Re: Pol Roger champagne served at Windsor Castle lunchtime reception

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Dear All,

Seen today on The Guardian's page on yesterday's Royal Wedding :

Inside St George’s Hall, where the Queen was hosting a lunchtime reception, 
there was Pol Roger Brut Reserve non-vintage champagne and a selection of 
wines for [. . .] weddings guests to enjoy with canapés and bowl food.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/19/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-marry-as-millions-watch-on?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=275484&subid=5885693&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2


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[ChurchillChat] Re: John Keegan's _Winston Churchill: A Life_

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Dear All,

John Keegan's _Winston Churchill: A Life_ has just been published in France 
(in French translation) - N°1 this morning in Amazon.Fr sales for books on 
the history of the UK :


https://www.amazon.fr/Winston-Churchill-Une-John-Keegan/dp/2251448004/ref=zg_bs_637554_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=XQKN9S0B8MVPVZYCBV26

This led me to look up the review published ten years ago by H-Albion, the 
international organisation of historians of the UK based at Michgan State 
University :


https://networks.h-net.org/node/16749/reviews/18151/mccrillis-keegan-winston-churchill-life

I found the statistics given by the reviewer extremely interesting. I wonder 
whether the pace of publications on Churchill continued to accelerate in the 
past ten years. Any information on the subject ?



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Re: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!!

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Sorry, but I cannot imagine even a "liberal" newspaper publishing "opinion 
pieces that are not in accord with its own editorial positions".


This Indian official's text is venomous - and the paper knew it and 
deliberately published it regardless.


"They hate us", your President correctly said of other people in another 
context - this fully applies to this Indian official : "he hates 
Churchill" - full stop.


No educated editor (as one may expect of a publication with a claim to 
seriousness) could miss the fact - and the paper did not publish a paragraph 
distancing itself from the offensive opinion proffered. So it endorses it by 
default.


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From: Chris Dunford
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:37 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All 
About It!!!



That is not a Washington Post opinion. It is a guest op-ed. The Post 
routinely publishes opinion pieces that are not in accord with its own 
editorial positions.






From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Dave Turrell

Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 1:14 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About 
It!!!






I note that the Washington Post, spiritual home of Trump Derangement 
Syndrome, continues its descent into the world of tabloid drivel.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/03/10/in-winston-churchill-hollywood-rewards-a-mass-murderer/?utm_term=.4c8ea73c9a3a



Dave



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Re: [ChurchillChat] Churchill Warrior: How a Military Life Guided Winston's Finest Hours eBook: Brian Lavery

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Dear Sandy,

See Finest Hour 178, p.46-47, for a review of the book version by Raymond 
Callaghan, which concludes :


"it will not be of a very great help to serious students of Churchill's 
finest years.


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From: Sandy Finlayson

Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 3:25 PM
To: Churchill List
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Churchill Warrior: How a Military Life Guided 
Winston's Finest Hours eBook: Brian Lavery


Does anyone know anything about this book?

It’s on sale today in the Kindle store.

https://www.amazon.com/Churchill-Warrior-Military-GuidedWinstons-ebook/dp/B0754MY1WF

Thanks

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[ChurchillChat] Re: Why did Churchill not like detective novels ?

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Dear All,

I read somewhere (I do not remember where) that Churchill did not like 
detective novels.


Does one know why ?

In a letter to Clementine of 17 August 1944, he praises _Berlin Hotel_ by 
Vicky Baum. Not a 'detective novel' properly speaking, but not far from the 
genre.



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[ChurchillChat] Re: review of Bell's Churchill and the Dardanelles

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Dear All,

Complementing the review which appeared last year in FH, another was 
published a few days ago by the Michigan War Studies Group (Eastern Michigan 
University) :


Churchill and the Dardanelles
By Christopher M. Bell
New York: Oxford Univ. Press, 2017. Pp. xiv, 439. ISBN 978–0–19–870254–2.

Review by Carl Cavanagh Hodge, The University of British Columbia

http://www.miwsr.com/2018-020.aspx#05

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[ChurchillChat] "Revealed: secret affair with a socialite that nearly wrecked Churchill’s career"

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"Revealed: secret affair with a socialite that nearly wrecked Churchill’s 
career"


(Title in today's Observer)

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[ChurchillChat] Re: Tania Crasnianski's “Winston Churchill and his Doctor, Lord Moran”

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear John,

I view of the controversy surrounding Lord Moran's "diaries", will Tania 
Crasnianski's “Winston Churchill and his Doctor, Lord Moran” be published in 
full somewhere ?

With all best wishes,

Professor Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
British Studies
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76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

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From: johnmather via ChurchillChat 
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 6:10 AM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Follow Up: What do you do with your books and 
Churchilliana?



. See attached write-up of that event, which, unfortunately was not reported 
upon in the ICS Chartwell Bulletin. A report was provided to ICS on the event 
and a compilation of the talks at this event was produced with a limited 
distribution of a booklet. A report was provided to ICS on the event and a 
compilation of the talks at this event was produced with a limited distribution 
of a booklet.

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Re: [ChurchillChat] "Darkest Hour"

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

A substantial critique of the film in the context of past Churchill movies 
and series appeared last Thursday in the New York Review of Books :


"A Star Is Born" by Geoffrey Wheatcroft

JANUARY 18, 2018 ISSUE

Excerpts :

. . .

[...]

This year’s cinematic incarnations aren’t bad by those variable standards, 
although it seems
that Clementine is as easy a part to get right as Winston is to get wrong. 
There have been few
bad performances of that highly intelligent, highly strung, intimidating 
lady. Harriet Walter
was good in The Crown, and Miranda Richardson in _Churchill_ and Kristin 
Scott Thomas in
Darkest Hour both shine. As to Churchill, Brian Cox is more than adequate in 
the former, and
Gary Oldman surprisingly good in the latter, another improbable piece of 
casting for an actor

whose previous roles have included Sid Vicious and Lee Harvey Oswald.
Both these movies are heroic fantasies. As _Churchill_ opens, shortly before 
D-Day, our hero
walks by the seashore and sees the water running blood red. He is, we are to 
suppose,
obsessed by the horrors of the Gallipoli landings twenty-nine years earlier—“so 
many young
men, so much waste”—and consumed by dread of another futile slaughter on the 
beaches of
Normandy. He attends an unlikely open-air conference with Eisenhower, 
Montgomery, and
King George VI, where he pleads for the landings—the greatest of their kind 
in history and
years in the planning—to be canceled. Not surprisingly he’s politely ignored 
and goes home

to sulk.
To add a bizarre touch, Churchill insists, before leaving home, that he must 
wear formal dress
with knee breeches to meet the sovereign. Later on there are some more droll 
moments, as
when Churchill tells a minion to find out from General Sir Harold Alexander 
whether he has
taken Rome yet, something that the Allied commander in Italy would quite 
likely have

communicated quickly to the prime minister when it happened.
These movies tend to have a tenuous basis in fact. [...]

. . . .

Best wishes to all,

Professor Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Head of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
Royal Historical Society Bibliography

http://www.editions-perrin.fr/livre/churchill/9782262065355

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From: Terry Reardon
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 9:52 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] "Darkest Hour"


Adding my “two cents” on the use of dramatic license.



The scene of Churchill speaking in the House of Commons, and various people, 
including King George, listening on the radio.




Churchill did speak on the radio from the Canadian House of Commons on 
December 30, 1941 – but as I said in my book on Churchill and the Canadian 
P.M. Mackenzie King – “It is unfortunate that Churchill’s efforts to allow 
radio broadcasts from the British House of Commons came to nought, and the 
public there were denied the opportunity of hearing them first hand. Thus an 
overworked Prime Minister had to repeat his speeches over the BBC, usually 
the same day, and not surprisingly some sound as if he was bored with the 
process, which he was.”




Still a most enjoyable film and a superb possible Oscar winning performance 
from Gary Oldham.




Terry Reardon





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[ChurchillChat] Re: Churchillian phrase, 'ma Française est très pauvre'

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Dear Allen,

Many thanks - on two accounts :

-First, because you and your team at Cambridge were so supportive all along 
(and your Centre duly benefits from an entry in the Dictionnaire).


-Secondly, because you made me laugh so much : your attempts at writing in 
French, though as highly commendable as those of Churchill, are equally, 
shall we say, 'Churchillian' - what you rightly call 'Churchill’s 
distinctive style of French' !
Not that I am mocking Churchill or you (my attempts at writing in, say, 
German would be even more disastrous !)


Your phrase, 'ma Francaise est tres pauvre' (which means 'my Frenchwoman is 
very poor)* reminded me of Churchill saying 'nous devons faire bonne', as 
reported in OB 5 p. 929 and in Documents 13 p. 964** !


With warmest thanks once more,

A.C.

* Mon Français (capital F) = my Frenchman / mon français (small f) = my 
French (language)


** The 'improper meaning' which the Ambassador had in mind is not clear. He 
probably had in mind that 'la bonne' means 'the housemaid'. In very vulgar 
French 'se faire la bonne' would mean to have sex with the housemaid. But 
Churchill did not actually say 'nous devons nous faire la bonne' !


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From: Director, Churchill Archives Centre
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:50 AM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Churchill : Le Dictionnaire - published today


Cher Antoine,



Comme Churchill, ma Francaise est tres pauvre, mais c’est magnifique.

Apologies – please accept this in the spirit it is intended, as a tribute to 
Churchill’s distinctive style of French but more importantly to your 
enthusiasm, dedication and scholarship. Congratulations,




Allen









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Churchill College
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On Behalf Of Cullen, Anthony

Sent: 12 January 2018 21:14
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Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Churchill : Le Dictionnaire - published today





Many congratulations!





Anthony Cullen

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From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com [mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Rafal H. Mankoo

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 8:45 PM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Churchill : Le Dictionnaire - published today







Congratulations, Antoine!

Wishing you every success.



Best,



Rafal





From: 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat 
Sent: 11 January 2018 15:48
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Churchill : Le Dictionnaire - published today







Dear All,

I am glad to announce that my Dictionary has appeared at last - this
Thursday.

Publisher's site :

https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.editions-perrin.fr%2Flivre%2Fchurchill%2F9782262065355&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4397ea027c464894eb0f08d5590ab6f9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636512824906085271&sdata=OKZxnqN46i3TEET8RkjNGI1yMoHuA%2B9F5iZp7fWsrrk%3D&reserved=0

Amazon UK gives the first pages, notably with Randolph's Preface and the
detailed Table :

https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2FChurchill-dictionnaire-Antoine-Capet%2Fdp%2F2262065357%2Fref%3Dsr_1_1%3Fs%3Dbooks%26ie%3DUTF8%26qid%3D1515685139%26sr%3D1-1%26keywords%3DChurchill%2B%253A%2BLe%2BDictionnaire%23reader_B0785VMGN8&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4397ea027c464894eb0f08d5590ab6f9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636512824906085271&sdata=z4fkTWUOhynb1j1BPgEz0vLc3U%2BvEZ7CrMFBujSHv7c%3D&reserved=0

Apparently, it is not available on Amazon.com (USA)

With all best wishes for 2018,

Professor Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

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[ChurchillChat] Re: Winston Churchill's eccentric working habits revealed in rare papers (The Guardian)

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear all,

A not-very-good article in the Guardian today :

"Winston Churchill's eccentric working habits revealed in rare papers"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/12/winston-churchills-eccentric-working-habits-revealed-in-rare-papers?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=260178&subid=5885693&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

One really wonders what is new in the "rare" information "revealed" by the 
IWM.


With all best wishes,

Professor Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
Head of British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

'Britain since 1914' Section Editor
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[ChurchillChat] Churchill : Le Dictionnaire - published today

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear All,

I am glad to announce that my Dictionary has appeared at last - this 
Thursday.


Publisher's site :

http://www.editions-perrin.fr/livre/churchill/9782262065355

Amazon UK gives the first pages, notably with Randolph's Preface and the 
detailed Table :


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Churchill-dictionnaire-Antoine-Capet/dp/2262065357/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1515685139&sr=1-1&keywords=Churchill+%3A+Le+Dictionnaire#reader_B0785VMGN8

Apparently, it is not available on Amazon.com (USA)

With all best wishes for 2018,

Professor Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
British Studies
University of Rouen
76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan
France
antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr

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Re: [ChurchillChat] "The interpreter...has been shot...."

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear Richard,

Simply magnificent ! You must find a way of including that in your next book, 
otherwise it will be lost – which would be a great pity !

A.C.

Professor Antoine CAPET, FRHistS
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University of Rouen
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From: Richard Langworth 
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 9:58 PM
To: ChurchillChat 
Subject: [ChurchillChat] "The interpreter...has been shot"

On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 11:55:26 AM UTC-5, Jonathan Hayes wrote: 
  There is a totally apocryphal story that I like.  Churchill woke up after a 
"strenuous evening" with Stalin at the Kremlin.  He was horrified by his lack 
of memory at what went on and hurriedly dictate a memo titled "this is my 
recollection of what we discussed last night" and sent it over to Stalin. It 
came back with a cover note from Stalin:  "I was drunk too.  The interpreter 
has been shot."


Jonathan,
Ah, but it gets even better than that. I have this from grandson Winston 
(1940-2010, R.I.P.):


"In 1942, as you know, my grandfather went to Moscow to tell Stalin there would 
be no Second Front anytime soon. The conversation left both of them infuriated. 
In the early 1990s, I happened to meet Mikhail Gorbachev’s interpreter. I’d 
always wanted to know, I asked him, whether, in Soviet circles, there’s 
anything to this story


"Allegedly my grandfather, back at his embassy, never one to hold a grudge, 
pens a private note to Stalin: 'The hour was late, we both said things we 
regret,let us expunge it from the record and start again tomorrow.' And Stalin 
supposedly replies, 'The hour was indeed late, we both said things we regret, 
we shall start over, and the only witness to our conversation was the 
interpreter…..who has been shot.'


“''That is a very amusing story,' said Mikhail Gorbachev’s interpreter…. 'But I 
can assure you, Mr. Churchill, my father lived a long and productive life.'”

 





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Re: [ChurchillChat] Gary Oldman as WSC (in yesterday's (London) Observer)

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

In yesterday's (London) Observer :

Gary Oldman: will Churchill prove to be his finest hour?

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/dec/31/gary-oldman-will-churchill-prove-to-be-his-finest-hour?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=258815&subid=5885693&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

Happy New Year to all,

A.C.

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From: Todd Ronnei
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 6:59 PM
To: ChurchillChat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Gary Oldman as WSC

Nice article in my local paper today

http://www.startribune.com/how-to-play-churchill-keep-calm-carry-on-and-spend-hours-in-the-makeup-chair/461938143/
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[ChurchillChat] Re: Paris-Match album on Churchill

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Paris-Match, the well-known French illustrated weekly (originally founded in 
imitation of _Life_) has just published a special 100-page fully-illustrated 
album without advertisements on Churchill, on the occasion of the release in 
France of the film, _Darkest Hour_.


It has several superb colour photographs on full pages - the best being the 
largest and sharpest I have even seen of Churchill in his Stetson hat and 
siren suit relaxing on a garden bench of Chartwell with Rufus II sitting 
next to him


There are also excellent still photographs taken when the film was being 
shot.


In France, it is a bargain at the price (6.95 euros) - the cover gives the 
price for Canada (presumably for sales in Quebec) : 11.99 Canadian dollars.


I do not know whether it will be made available in the UK and USA (possibly 
at airports ?)


Well worth looking for, in any case.

http://www.parismatch.com/Culture/Medias/Winston-Churchill-le-stratege-un-hors-serie-exceptionnel-1424267

Merry Christmas to all,

A.C.

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[ChurchillChat] Re: origin of the phrase "Action This Day"

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Dear All,

A colleague writes :

I finding it very difficult to trace an origin for the phrase "Action This 
Day," employed by the Churchill ministry during WWII. Although I have found 
non-Churchillian origins for a great number of wartime things credited to 
him, I can't find anything about this (not even a reference to when 
Churchill  himself might have conceived it). I strongly suspect that it was 
invented by a civil servant or whatever passed for an organizational 
management guru in those days, but so far I've had no luck. It may also have 
been a Bletchley-Park-ism, but I can't find that either.


Any clues ? Any references to books or articles ?

With all best wishes,

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British Studies
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[ChurchillChat] Re: play on Churchill and de Gaulle

['Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat]

Dear All,

If some of you happen to be in Paris or go there before 30 November, I 
warmly recommend a play on Churchill and de Gaulle on the eve of the 
Normandy Landings :


MEILLEURS ALLIÉS

http://www.theatremontparnasse.com/meilleurs-allies/


With all best wishes,

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