[cia-drugs] On Congressional Emergency Protection and Reorganization of the Auto Industry
http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2006/3311auto_memo.html On Congressional Emergency Protection and Reorganization of the Auto Industry by Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. By Act of Congress, the Automobile Manufacturing Industry, as broadly so defined, is taken under the temporary protection of the Federal Government of the U.S.A., as a matter of most crucial strategic significance for enabling the resurrection and further development of the national economy of the U.S.A., as a measure deemed essential to the general welfare of the nation for its present population and posterity. The included economic and social requirement is that the productive capacity so preserved must be maintained in those states and local communities in which the automotive industry and its principal suppliers have been situated during the recent decade and a half. The qualitative upgrading of the technologies used in the design of automobiles and related products, will be a continuing, included feature. A targeted level of one-quarter to one-third of present levels of manufacture by U.S. enterprises operating under this temporary protection will continue to produce for the auto industry. The remainder of the capacity of the industry and its principal supporting elements should be devoted to a functionally integrated development of the national space-exploration and development initiative, as associated with NASA, and with missions centered in, and compatible with the function of power, mass transportation. and related matters of national, regional, and local infrastructure. It should be the intention of such prime legislation, that the concentration of Federally-created credit, as capital of investment, in this large, and rapidly expanding section of the national economy as a whole, shall be an economic driver for many leading sectors of the economy. The impact of this must be a reversal of the preceding decline of the U.S. economy from an agro-industrial power, to a so-called, "cheap-labor"- based "services economy." These combined intentions, must envisage the restoration of the Hamiltonian conception of national economic development, a shift accomplished by the establishment of a well-defined capital budget, as distinct from an annual operating budget, of the Federal Government. Federally created lines of medium- to long-term credit for capital improvements in matters of national economic and related strategic importance, should be made either directly by Act of Congress, or controlled through a special lending authority created by Act of Congress. The private banks would be encouraged to participate in approved loans to private enterprises for this purpose. In the course of time, the effects of this program must be sorted out, such that either some elements are retained as instruments of government ownership and operation, or established as enterprises operating within the private sector. For further elaboration, see LaRouche's 2005 memoranda on Strategic Bankruptcy, and his Open Letter to Bill Ford, both available on www.larouchepac.com Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM SPONSORED LINKS United state bankruptcy court western district of texas United state life insurance United state patent United state patent search United states patent office United state flag YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "cia-drugs" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[cia-drugs] Slobodan Milosevic found dead in cell
http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=266452&area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__international_news/ Slobodan Milosevic found dead in cell Stephanie van den Berg Former Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic, the "Butcher of the Balkans" being tried for war crimes and genocide over the Balkans conflicts that killed more than 200Â 000 people, was found dead in his cell-room bed on Saturday."Today, Saturday March 11, Slobodan Milosevic was found lifeless on his bed in his cell at the United Nations detention unit in Scheveningen," said a statement by the court in The Hague."The guard immediately alerted the detention unit officer in command and the medical officer. The latter confirmed that Slobodan Milosevic was dead," the court said in a statement.The news provoked widespread fury because the burly 64-year-old Milosevic had for ever escaped justice and prompted questions about the responsibility of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia.The court launched an inquiry into the death. A full autopsy and a toxicological report have been ordered, it said. Milosevic's family were informed of his death, it added.Russia's Interfax news agency quoted the brother of Milosevic, Borislav Milosevic, as saying the tribunal in The Hague "carries full responsibility" for the death.The judges had denied a request from Milosevic, who was suffering from high blood pressure and heart problems, to undergo medical treatment in Moscow, saying they saw no reason why Russian doctors could not treat him in The Netherlands."The tribunal has nothing to be blamed for," tribunal spokesperson Christian Chartier said. "The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia takes the utmost care of its indictees and of [Milosevic] in particular. We cannot be blamed for negligence."Milosevic's death was announced just six days after the suicide in the same prison of his former ally, 50-year-old Croatian Serb ex-leader Milan Babic, who pleaded guilty to crimes against humanity perpetrated during the 1991-1995 war in Croatia.'Not fair'In the streets of Belgrade, Serbs reacted with a mixture of shock, anger and deep suspicion."It is not fair that the bastard died in a dream while others died in pain," said 43-year-old Belgrade resident Duska, who asked not to give her full name."Now Sloba's supporters will make him a martyr, saying he would rather die than betray his country," said 35-year-old Janko Petrovic, referring to Milosevic by his nickname."Nobody will have guts now to say that the UN tribunal is not biased against the Serbs. Not now, in a week that started with the death of Milan Babic and ended with Milosevic's death," Petrovic said.Milosevic had been on trial before the UN court since February 2002 on more than 60 counts of war crimes and crimes against humanity for his role in the 1990s Balkan wars. He was facing separate genocide charges related to the 1992-1995 war in Bosnia, where Serb military strategies devised to depopulate non-Serb areas became known as "ethnic cleansing".Milosevic, who defended himself, never recognised the court's legitimacy and refused to even to make written submissions.Europe reacted with hope that his death might lead to reconciliation in the region."I hope very much this event, the death of Milosevic will help Serbia to look definitely to the future," said European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana, in Salzburg for EU talks with Balkans policymakers."I hope very much that his passing will enable the people of Serbia better to come to terms with their past, which is the only way in which they can properly face their future," British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw told reporters at the same meeting.DefiantMilosevic defied international sanctions and Nato bombs over nearly a decade of strife in the former Yugoslavia and was unmoved by the accusations against him.The Serb nationalist stoked conflicts that left more than 200Â 000 people dead, up to three million homeless and the Serbian economy in ruins.But the burly firebrand made no apologies for his actions in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo, where his drive for a Greater Serbia "cleansed" of Croats and Muslims sparked a rash of massacres and finally a showdown with the West."I'm proud for everything I did in defending my country and my people," he told United States television network Fox News in a phone interview in 2001 from his jail outside The Hague while he was awaiting trial."All my decisions are legitimate and legal, based on the constitution of Yugoslavia and based on the rights to self-defence."Milosevic was the first former head of state to appear before an international criminal court and faced life in jail if convicted. But he portrayed himself as a besieged statesman who struggled to keep the crumbling Yugoslav federation intact against separatists and "terrorists".The wily Serb matched bluff and
[cia-drugs] Perils Of A Strategic Alliance
http://pd.cpim.org/2006/0312/03122006_prakash.htm Perils Of A Strategic Alliance Prakash Karat INDIA has become a strategic ally of the United States. This is the message that president Bushs visit to India has underlined. In one sense, the outcome of the visit was expected given the fact that last year in July, during the prime ministers visit to Washington a strategic partnership was forged as set out in the joint statement issued on July 18, 2005. Embedded in this strategic alliance is the US nuclear cooperation deal which was first mooted in the July 18 statement. The steps taken to concretise the nuclear deal during the Bush visit have been hailed as historic. The big business media in the country have launched an euphoric campaign using the terminology which became familiar during the period of the BJP-led government when the pro-US orientation began. If one were to believe the headlines, India has acquired great power status and the India-US partnership is being touted as the greatest event in this country since it acquired independence. The cue has been taken from US secretary of state, Condoleezza Rices remark last year that the Untied States will help India become a great power. Such toadying up to the United States is typical of the English language print and electronic media. What is not stated in this orchestrated campaign is that the UPA government has by this strategic alliance with the United States eroded Indias independent foreign policy and severely restricted its strategic autonomy. This is evident from the nature of the strategic compact arrived at which has political, economic, military and strategic elements involved. All talk of enlightened national interests is exposed when the political and ideological underpinnings of this strategic alliance with the United States are examined. FRAUD OF SPREADING DEMOCRACY That the United States is the leader of this alliance is clear from the way the political terms of the alliance have been framed. In the July 18 statement, India agreed to promote democracy and fight terrorism globally jointly with the United States. If the July 18 statement talked about the Global Democracy Initiative, the current joint statement talks of India designating a representative to the advisory board of International Centre for Democratic Transition (ICDT) located in Budapest. In between, India had contributed $10 million to the UN Democracy Fund along with the United States. The pro-US media and the ruling circles have kept the Indian people in the dark about the nature of organisations like the ICDT. This is nothing but a US-sponsored platform to promote regime change under the garb of democracy in all those countries which oppose US hegemony or have a socialist system. What was being done by the US through its organisations like the National Endowment for Democracy is now being carried forward by the Community of Democracies, the Democracy Fund and the ICDT. What the Manmohan Singh government has agreed to is to join the US sponsored global crusade against socialist countries like Cuba and countries targeted by the United States like Iran, Venezuela, Syria and Zimbabwe. It is significant and disturbing that the government of India has kept silent about Bushs infamous remarks about the need to promote democracy and regime change in countries like Iran, Cuba, Zimbabwe and others in his Purana Qila speech. BLUEPRINT FOR US CAPITAL The joint statement issued during the visit has welcomed the report of the US-India CEO Forum and agrees to consider its recommendations. Both the CEO Forum and the Trade Policy Forum have submitted reports which are a blueprint for American capital and corporations to penetrate the economy and capture the Indian market. Among the recommendations of the CEO Forum are steps to facilitate US banks taking over Indian private banks; increasing FDI in the insurance sector to 49 per cent, opening up retail trade further to FDI and setting up of a $5 billion Infrastructure Development Fund which can act as a vehicle for US investment in infrastructure. It is stated clearly that the Fund should only have minority Indian government participation and should leverage the expertise of the World Bank and other financial institutions for selection and monitoring of investments. The deputy chairman of the Planning Commission, Dr Montek Singh Ahluwalia has promptly and not surprisingly, announced that there will be 24 committees set up, one for each recommendation made by the CEO Forum. It is not clear whether the Planning Commission itself would set up such committees whose sole purpose would be to facilitate American private investment in the country. PRIVATISING AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH Another agreement being given concrete shape is the Indo-US Knowledge Initiative on Agriculture, Research and Education. The board s
[cia-drugs] Fwd: [THS] !!!! Mike Whitney: The 48 Hour Media-blitz for War with Iran
Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "cia-drugs" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Begin Message --- http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12276.htm The 48 Hour Media-blitz for War with Iran By Mike Whitney 03/10/06 "ICH" -- -- In the last 48 hours all the major players in the Bush administration have issued statements warning of the impending danger of Iran. Cheney blasted the Islamic regime saying there would be meaningful consequences if it refuses to comply with international demands to stop its nuclear program. Condoleezza Rice said, We face no greater challenge from a single country than Iran This is a country that seems determined, it seems, to develop a nuclear weapon in defiance of the international community that is determined that they should not get one. Donald Rumsfeld warned at a press conference on Wednesday, I will say this about Iran. They are currently putting people into Iraq to do things that are harmful to the future of Iraq. We know it, and it is something that they, I think, will look back on as having been an error in judgment. Bush chimed in too, Iran must not have a nuclear weapon. The most destabilizing thing that can happen in this region and in the world is for Iran to have a nuclear weapon. And then there was Bolton, the most vehement of all, saying that the Security Council should issue a vigorous response to Irans nuclear ambitions or the United States might have to consider other steps. Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns said, Its going to be incumbent on our allies around the world to show that they are willing to act. Congress also added their support led by Rep. Tom Lantos (D-CA) Irans quest for nuclear arms requires us to do two things: squeeze Irans economy as much as possible and do so without delay. Lantos claims that more than 300 lawmakers will support sanctions. Israels Defense Minister joined the chorus as well, If the UN Security Council is incapable of taking action to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, Israel will have no choice but to defend itself. Bush, Cheney, Bolton, Rice, Rumsfeld, Burns, Congress, and Israel. Whoa! Thats quite a line-up. All in the last 48 hours! Was it spontaneous or a calculated public-relations campaign? Beyond the political speechmaking are literally hundreds of articles, full of the same predictable fictions and demagoguery which have mischaracterized Irans nuclear program from the get-go; fueling the hysteria for another preemptive war. Did Iran become nuclear superpower overnight? Apparently, so. But, just for the sake of argument, lets remember that according to the IAEA there is no evidence of a nuclear weapons program or any diversion of nuclear material. That is the judgment of the Nobel Prize-wining chief of the UN nuclear watchdog agency, Mohammad ElBaradei. ElBaradei warned that there were no nuclear weapons programs in Iraq and he has drawn the very same conclusion in Iran. No evidence still means no evidence except in Washington, DC, where it is a mere stumbling block for a massive media-blitz to manipulate public perceptions and whip the masses into war-fever. Its hard not to be impressed by the sudden ratcheting-up of inflammatory statements and spurious claims that blast from every media-soapbox across the country. Who could have imagined 4 years ago how utterly corrupted our media really is? Try this: do a Google search through the 2,400 articles on Iran right now on and see what you find. Youll find that all 2,400 articles reiterate the same bland deceptions and wearisome lies as all the others. Youll see that the forth estate provides neither facts, nor context, nor analysis, just the endless, repetitive fear-mongering of administration officials. Thats it; just manipulation through state-sponsored demagoguery 24-7. You wont find anything about the IAEA inspection team that rummaged through Irans nuclear sites for the passed two years in the most thorough examination of any country in the history of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) You wont hear anything about the go anywhere, see anything inspections that allowed officials from the IAEA to investigate any location or facility they felt was suspicious. You wont hear that the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) predicted that it would take 10 years for Iran to build a nuclear weapon. (If, in fact, that is even their intention) You wont hear that Iran temporarily sacrificed its legal right to enrich uranium and accepted additional protocols because it trusted the EU-3 (Germany, France and England) who, it turns out, were simply acting as Washingt
[cia-drugs] Fwd: [THS] !!! Harvard in the Sky With Diamonds
Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM SPONSORED LINKS United state bankruptcy court western district of texas United state life insurance United state patent United state patent search United states patent office United state flag YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "cia-drugs" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Begin Message --- Pubdate: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 Source: Harvard Independent (MA Edu) Page: Cover Article Copyright: 2006 The Harvard Independent, Inc. Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.harvardindependent.com/ Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/3984 Authors: Shane Wilson and Jon Liu Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/topics/LSD (LSD) Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/hallucinogens.htm (Hallucinogens) HARVARD IN THE SKY WITH DIAMONDS Of veritas and LSD. When news broke a fortnight ago that two undergraduates had been arrested in connection with a nude, acid-fueled spectacle in the corridors of Quincy House's C-entry, one could have been forgiven for checking the calendar. Yes, it was 2006, not 1966 -- yet once again, the banks of the Charles were playing host to psychedelic excess. Thirty-eight hits' worth of excess, to be precise -- the number that the Harvard University Police Department (HUPD) allegedly found in the room of Soren J. Siebach '08, as first reported in a February 25 article on the Crimson's website. The other arrestee, whom HUPD has not yet named, was hospitalized for drug treatment after assaulting two officers; naked and "acting in an aggressive and threatening manner," in the words of police logs, he initially eluded capture because his skin was too sweaty to seize. Siebach, a Utah native, came to college with a perfect ACT score and an avowed interest in "disco skating," according to his high-school newspaper. Now he faces a mandatory minimum sentence of two years' imprisonment, thanks to Massachusetts school-zone provisions. (Quincy House is across the street from the Radcliffe Child Care Center, a "private accredited preschool" under the law.) Siebach's cohort will face arraignment next week on one count of marijuana possession and two counts of assault and battery against a police officer, said HUPD spokesperson Steven G. Catalano. The former charge has a maximum sentence of six months; the latter, two and a half years. The incident came as a surprise, wrote Quincy C resident Kevin J. Feeney '08 in an e-mail. "A lot of people are confused about what did happen that night, and I suppose worried about what will happen." Nonetheless, Feeney said, "the talk has stayed relatively quiet. Nothing on the open list, no official statement." He described the Quincy community overall as "sympathetic toward everyone involved. We haven't gone Salem, yet." Catalano, the HUPD spokesperson, characterized the incident as unusual -- especially in light of the hallucinogen involved. "We weren't necessarily surprised," he said, "but it was something new. Most of our drug arrests involve marijuana." He could not recall another specific LSD-related arrest from his six years with the Department. In all likelihood, Catalano said, the event does not signal a resurgence of LSD use at Harvard -- though one wonders who was on the receiving end of Siebach's alleged "intent to distribute" the 38 hits. Regardless, the Quincy House sideshow represents just the latest chapter in Harvard's long and storied history with D-lysergic acid diethylamide -- a history that has seen the hallucinogen flirting with both sides of the countercultural divide. American Pioneers Today, the Massachusetts Mental Health Center, described on its website as "a unique collaboration between the Massachusetts Department of Health and Harvard Medical School," serves as a premier teaching hospital for psychologists, psychiatrists, and other mental-health professionals. In a less genteel time, however, the Harvard-affiliated Center was called the Boston Psychopathic Hospital -- and in 1949, it witnessed the American arrival of a European immigrant: LSD. Six years earlier, the Swiss scientist Albert Hoffman had discovered first-hand the hallucinogenic powers of the compound, which he had originally synthesized in 1938. But according to John D. Marks' 1979 book The Search for the "Manchurian Candidate" (Time Books), Hoffman's substance received little attention in the States until a Viennese psychiatry professor named Otto Kauders extolled its virtues
[cia-drugs] Fwd: From the Bench
Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM SPONSORED LINKS United state bankruptcy court western district of texas United state life insurance United state patent United state patent search United states patent office United state flag YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "cia-drugs" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Begin Message --- Breaking: Sandra Day O'Connor rips into GOP, DeLay, Cornyn, and warns of the "beginnings" of dictatorship NPR's Nina Totenberg aired an amazing story this morning about a talk that just-resigned Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor gave at Georgetown University. The first woman to serve on the High Court wouldn't allow her actual words to be broadcast, and that's a shame, because -- based on Totenberg's report -- every American needs to hear what she said. The Reagan appointee who became a moderate and an American icon -- Bush v. Gore notwithstanding -- all but named names in thinly veiled attacks on former House majority leader Tom DeLay and Texas Sen. John Cornyn, and ended with a stunning warning. We transcribed some of the report, which you can listen to here. (UPDATE: Here's a full transcript from Raw Story.) O'Connor told her Georgetown audience that judges can make presidents, Congress and governors "really really mad," and that if judges don't make people angry, they aren't doing their job. But she said judicial effectiveness is "premised on the notion that we won't be subject to retaliation for our judicial acts." While hailing the American system of rights and privileges, she noted that these don't protect the judiciary, that "people do": Then, she took aim at former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. She didn’t name him, but she quoted his attacks on the courts at a meeting of the conservative Christian group Justice Sunday last year, when DeLay took out after the courts for its rulings on abortion, prayer, and the Terry Schiavo case. This, said O’Connor, was after the federal courts had applied Congress' one-time-only statute about Schiavo as it was written, not, said O'Connor, as the Congressman might have wished it were written. The response to this flagrant display of judicial restraint, said O'Conner, her voice dripping with sarcasm, was that the congressman blasted the courts. It gets worse, she said, noting that death threats against judges are increasing. It doesn’t help, she said, when a high-profile senator suggests there may be a connection between violence against judges and decisions that the senator disagrees with. She didn’t name him, but it was Texas Sen. John Cornyn who made that statement after a Georgia judge was murdered in court and the family of a federal judge in Illinois murdered in the judge's home.Now, the kicker: O’Connor observed that there have been a lot of suggestions lately for so-called judicial reforms -- recommendations for the massive impeachment of judges stripping the courts of jurisdictions and cutting judicial budgets to punish offending judges. Any of these might be debatable, she said, as long as they are not retaliation for decision that political leaders disagree with I, said O’ Connor, am against judicial reforms driven by nakedly partisan reasoning. Pointing to the experiences of developing countries and formerly Communist countries, where interference with an independent judiciary has allowed dictatorship to flourish, O’Connor said we must be ever vigilant against those who would strong-arm the judiciary into adopting their preferred policies. It takes a lot of degeneration before a country falls into dictatorship she said, but we should avoid these ends by avoiding these beginnings. If Georgetown or anyone else has an audiotape or videotape of the retired justice's words, we would strongly urge them to release it (with her permission). If the NPR report accurately reflects what she said, this rises to the level of President Dwight Eisenhower's 1961 warning about the "military-industrial complex" -- and should be heard by all. --- End Message ---
[cia-drugs] A more "black magic" side definitely would use DNA knowledge for eugenics or bioweaponry or social control though.
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2006/03/life-and-life-only_08.html#comments Anonymous said... to 'thoughtographer' once more: As for my opinion on Wallace's public statement and political inclement, I can't see him personally being interested in Nazi eugenics or genocides of the 'unfit.' (i.e., his statements on how he disliked the U.S. response to race riots in 1943 Detriot and his whole social context improvement drive around humans on the outside (instead of human improvement). If good would be defined as working on the outside, evil I would feel would be attempting to simply change the inside out from under people. However, that being said, if some of these elite people do have split personalities, then nothing they say can be trusted as evidence of who they are. Point two, that hardly precludes someone building on Wallace's genetic techniques and transferring them over to other once left-wing and then labelled "Nazi" eugenic projects that only went underground after WWII instead of died out. The PNAC even gives a polite tip of the hat of recognition to eugenics in smiling on recent inventions of gene-recognizing biological weapons that they claim could be used a ethnic based weapons that turns bioweaponry "from a mere terror device into a politically useful tool." I've rarely felt as sick at heart when I saw that for the first time. If Wallace was not a multiple--or even if he was--he seems more as someone working on the "outside perfectionist" groups and likely not really Mr. Big himself since he could be so easily thrown away in 1940. Wallace seems rather "white magic innocent" in his approach of perfecting material reality as he sees fit that has been going on from the Elizabethan occultists around Bacon in England, Rosicrucians, Christian Kabbalists, Christian Unionists and all those people of the early decades of the 1600s. Wallace of course, since the whole discipline of ecology didn't exist until after WWII, seems completely ignorat that his "material perfection" program for higher yields as the only purpose of crops (i.e., he could have bred them to be more nutritious for instance). As the past 60 years has shown, this whole breeding program is an ecological dead end because of diminishing returns: it self-destructs ecologially by concentrating only on high yielding things which consolidate agriculture, it impoverish farmers he claimed to want to help, and led to large scale pesticides to maintain such scaled industrial agricultulre he contributed to inventing it seems, and reduced nutritional content of food. Wallace seems like a latter day Rosicrucian. I'd have to know much more about him though a lot of well intentioned scientists are innocent like that to the sociological ramifications of "their pretty neat ideas". A more "black magic" side definitely would use DNA knowledge for eugenics or bioweaponry or social control though. Fleshing that out, with the whole DNA issue strand (pun not intended) in mind and many readers of this thread pondering how to apply it to morality, I would offer that opening up and protecting "soul choice" would be a good use of their DNA knowledge. Perhaps allowing for expanding psychic opening per se. A "white magic" occult side here for lack of another term want material perfections as they see it for humans as well as opening up DNA capacities. The darker side would be for crushing this capacity, and using such DNA knowledge for further perfecting or inbreeding internal locks against human consciousness and 'enlightenment'. Playing devil's advocate to myself, I don't really think that there is a useful separation though with most of these people whatever side of the political game they are playing because they are both OTO style elitists who want to control others souls, its just that some convince themselves it is a benevolent dictatorship with white painted pretty U.N. tanks firing the DU weaponry and "reeducating people" away from their own expressed interests, while the others know and revel in the visciousness of dictatorship, both mental and physical and feed off the self-destruction and misery. As I said in practice, there is no difference I think between the two groups in terms of their politics. The former might simply be a romantic historical relic of how European hermeticism ideologies developed--where the occult, the kabala, and alchemy was an individual personal transformation tool, instead of something to be applied socially to control. The Krisnamurta info at your Wallace links show that he rejected the whole social control element leadership that the theosophists wanted to see him fulfill for them. Another really scary development along these lines I think is the really NWO Ba'hai faith that is all about social control and perfecting international religious institutions and disciplinary frameworks, etc. Back to the hsitorical relic issue of these occultists wanting individual freedom: perhaps they had once a taboo on ap
