[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] On the Relative Power of Skull and Bones

2006-07-27 Thread RoadsEnd


More of the same …Peace, KBegin forwarded message:From: RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: July 27, 2006 9:13:50 PM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [ctrl] On the Relative Power of Skull and BonesReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Gee, Chip, Jay Gould had "nothing" do at all with Skull & Bones.  He  helped to put together Union Pacific, which was taken over by EH. Harriman and run by Bonesman for years. His big partner was Russel Sage, whose foundation was incorporated by Bonesman Daniel Coit Gilman, and there are many Sages and Goulds in the Order of Skull & Bones. Also Jay Gould worked with many Bones, WC Whitney, the Dodges, the Stokes, etc. You really are an ignorant troll.Here is the Chip's hero from wiki"In his lifetime and for a century after, Gould had a firm reputation as the most unethical of the 19th century American businessmen known as robber barons. Many times he allowed his rivals to believe that he was beaten, then sprang some legal or contractual loophole on them that completely reversed the situation and gave him the advantage. He pioneered the practice, now commonplace, of declaring bankruptcy as a strategic maneuver. He had no opposition to using stock manipulation and insider trading (which were then legal but frowned upon) to build capital and to execute or prevent hostile takeover attempts. As a result, many contemporary businessmen did not trust Gould and often expressed contempt for his approach to business"How come you never answer my questions troll? What's a matter are you just too …How about Eddie Lampert?How about your notes and flowcharts?Peace, Kris MilleganOn Jul 27, 2006, at 7:50 PM, Sean McBride wrote: Kris,     I've never read Berlet's writings on Sutton -- in fact, I've read few of his writings, and wasn't impressed by much of what I read.  My views converge with Berlet's on the subject of Christian fundamentalism, and little else.     If you read me carefully, you will notice that I said Sutton did highly valuable research for his time.  He took a snapshot of the power elite at his moment in history, from a particular angle.  I don't find that his world model explains the contemporary scene of global power elite politics very effectively.     There is a single law in this research: follow the money to the top of the food chain.  Most of the self-made billionaires who dominate cutting-edge high tech, especially curtting-edge information technology, are not Skull and Bones members, nor could they give a damn about belonging to such organizations.  They would find the members of those organizations to be incredibly slow-witted and boring, not even worth getting into a conversation with.  Of course, they wouldn't hesitate to hire and use these people for their various ventures, much in the way that Larry Ellison recently hired former attorney general John Ashcroft to work for Oracle.     Politicians are front men and hirelings for powerful economic interests.  Yalies, like Joseph Lieberman, who occupy political office are for the most part simply window dressing and tools and nothing more.     Which four Skull and Bones members would you argue are more powerful than Rupert Murdoch, Mort Zuckerman, Larry Ellison and Bruce Kovner?  Certainly not George W. Bush, John Kerry or Robert Kagan, all of whom who are essentially brainless from the standpoint of the self-made billionaires who have established themselves as overlords of the new information empire.     Stanford University is also a major player -- Sergey Brin and Larry Page of Google and Jerry Yang and David Filo of Yahoo are all Stanford products.   I just read a biography of Jay Gould by Edward J. Renahan which provides a wonderful window into understanding the social processes by which power elites form in America.  Do you know it?  Gould did not need to rely on infantile fraternities like Skull and Bones to take command of the world.  The kind of person who gravitates to such props is usually unlikely to possess the kind of genius to rise to the top of the food chain.RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Chip Berlet makes the same claims as Sean about Sutton. Berlet has spent years denigrating Sutton and his works.  Can you truly discuss Sutton and his works? What do you think of  "Western Technology and Soviet Economic development, 1945 to 1965?"  How about "Energy the created Crisis?" Or "The View from 4-space?" Can you comment about those works?Care to share your note taking and flow charts or are you too scared of the MOSSAD?Sutton's world model of secret societies and alliances, where an elite are conspiring against us hoi polloi, is invalid? Chip, you keep using your rhetorical tricks and putting words in my and Sutton's mouth. Neither of us say that Bones is all powerful, but that they are part of a secret network. Since you are so familiar with Sutton's work, you must have read his two works on the Tri-Lateral Commission, or his work on the Federal Re

[cia-drugs] The Oslo War Erupts [Chamish]

2006-07-27 Thread norgesen





THE OSLO WAR ERUPTS by Barry 
Chamish
 

Monday, July 24, 2006 4:17 PM
 
Well...now we know why Barak was in such a hurry to leave Lebanon 
andwhy he deserted our Christian allies.    Well...now we 
know why Sharon was in such a hurry to ruin the lives ofthe Gush Katif 
farmers.    And now we know why Corporal Shalit was handed 
over to Hamas. Read thefindings of the IDF's investigator Col. Giora Eiland. 
The kidnapping wascaught on a surveillance camera. A soldier wanted to shoot 
the kidnappersbut was denied the opportunity by his 
officer.    AND THEN IT TOOK ANOTHER HOUR TO ANNOUNCE 
SHALIT'S KIDNAPPING TO THEIDF!    Then a tank convoy was 
broken up by shooting on Mount Meron. Only twotanks remained to patrol the 
border road. They were blown to bits and twosoldiers captured. Later a 
rescue tank was blown apart inside Lebanon toscare the public about a nasty 
ground war. Now why would Hamas and Hizbollah ignite 
Israel's fury?**    I am in Salt Lake City. A 
lunch is arranged for me with EvelynRothschild's grandson who has abandoned 
the family for Mormonism. He doesnot talk willingly but I learn that just 
seven families are enjoying thefruits of the war. I ask him why they want to 
destroy Israel. He smiles andnotes, "They created Israel as their personal 
toy. It makes them richer andgives them more control. It's not going to be 
destroyed."**   In December of 1993 I interviewed Ron 
Pundak, one of the two Oslo Accordnegotiators. He said something that back 
then I considered remarkable. Hesaid that his boss, Yossi Beilin didn't 
believe in borders. Borders causewars. When Oslo is done Israel won't have 
borders. There won't be borders inthe new Middle East. We will all have one 
border.**   The criminals running Israel, the Olmerts 
and Pereses couldn't care lessif Israel disappears or how many Jews die in 
Haifa. They want a New MiddleEast and that requires Syria and Iran to get 
involved. But they are toosmart to take the bait, no matter how many 
missiles they supplied Hizbullah.   If Israel really wanted to get 
rid of the missiles, they are fighting thewrong war. Only ground troops can 
capture the enemy's weapons. So why fightan air war?   Because 
that's the only war the American NWO army, trapped in Iraq, canfight and 
Israel is testing its effectiveness.   Yes people, this is the 
NWO's war and for it, we signed the Oslo warAccord. And for this, the CFR 
has hired one Daniel Pipes to make Americahate the Arabs.   
And yes, Hamas and Hizbullah hate us like Nazis. If you have to have awar, 
you need a real enemy. And who knows what they can add to the missileheads 
to make us REALLY hate them and REALLY have a war.**   
Who is the hack who writes Olmert's speeches? He has pictures of 
thekidnapped soldiers in his office? He dons a kippah and reads from the 
Bookof Jeremiah?   Who really ousted the pro-American Shah and 
created the monster of Iran?What is America doing in Iraq?   
And why are Arabs and Jews falling for all of this?end
Bulletin: On 
Tuesday, Condeleeza Rice of the Council On ForeignRelations will meet in 
Rome to discuss "Foreign Troop Deployment" inIsrael. Participants in the 
meeting will be the EU, Russia, Egypt,Jordan, Saudi Arabia, the World Bank 
and the UN. Congratulations Israel,the New World Order will begin guarding 
you, as I have always written.Other than the Vatican, Rome is home of  
the NWO Club Of Rome whosePresident is HRH El Hussain Ibn Talal, King of 
Jordan.
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in North America,I'll keep a special address open for you. Write[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[cia-drugs] Coast-to-Coast Medi-pot J4J in Oakland, CA. Journey for Justice.

2006-07-27 Thread Eco Man



   "Grandma" Kay Lee, co-founder of the original Journey For Justice, has been reporting on J4J number 7 on her webpages.http://www.angelfire.com/planet/bikeride http://j4j7.info   http://www.google.com/search?q=Kay+Lee+J4J      -forwarded messge begins. J4J info is after the meeting and event notices.---     Rebecca Saltzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:16:08 -0700From: Rebecca Saltzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [asa-ca] ASA CA Weekly AlertAction
 Alert1) Help Journey for Justice Continue Cross-Country Medical Marijuana Bike Ride!ASA Chapter Meetings2) Saturday, July 1st, Yuba City: Yuba-Sutter ASA Meeting3) Saturday, July 1st, Modesto: Central Valley Patients Coalition4) Thursday, July 6th, Guerneville: Sonoma ASA Meeting5) Tuesday, July 11th, San Diego: SD ASA Meeting6) Tuesday, July 11th, San Francisco: SF ASA Meeting7) Thursday, July 13th, Fullerton: Orange County ASA Meeting8) Thursday, July 13th, Sacramento: Sac ASA MeetingCity & County Hearings9) Tuesday, July 11th, Bakersfield: Kern County Board of Supervisors to Vote on Dispensary Regulations10) Tuesday, July 11th, Fremont: City Council to Vote on Banning DispensariesCourt Support11) Monday, July 17th, Sacramento: Court
 Support for Bryan EpisSpecial Events12) Saturday, July 1st, Oakland: Greeting Celebration for the Journey for Justice @ the Bulldog Coffee Shop13) Friday, July 7th: 420 Report Radio Show hosted by Ed RosenthalAction Alert1) Help Journey for Justice Continue Cross-Country Medical Marijuana Bike Ride!Ken Locke is the recipient of a $500 grant from ASA, which has helped him get this far along his journey. Now he needs your support. Please help out if you can.You can read more about Ken's journey & story in ASA's February Newsletter (scroll to the end of the newsletter).A message from Mark Pedersen:This is Mark Pedersen. I am a member of Journey For Justice Seven.  I am writing to you on behalf of Ken Locke and crew. Journey for Justice is currently
 made up of three people, Ken Locke, the founder of this journey and our lead biker, Tony Ball, biker and support truck driver, and myself, support truck driver and tech. person.The purpose of our cross-country bicycle trip has several facets. Our primary goal is Ken’s personal medical test to either prove or disprove cannabis as a viable preventative for seizures.Ken sustained a life-threatening injury in 2001, when he was struck in the head by a nine foot tree limb that had fallen 80 feet from the top of a tree he was cutting down.  His injury caused him to be prone to seizures and forced him to take prescription drugs that were virtually as dangerous as the seizures, themselves. After a difficult year of trying to cope with the side effects of the prescription meds and several severe seizures, Ken spoke to his doctor, then flushed his pharmaceuticals and started a cannabis-only regiment.  That was four years ago, and he has not had a seizure
 since.Ken has undertaken this grueling, physically punishing journey to either prove or disprove the medicinal value of cannabis to prevent seizures, even under the harsh conditions we have faced over the last two months.  This test achieved a whole new level when he suffered low blood-oxygen in Fairplay, Colorado.  The doctors in the emergency room were amazed that not only had he not suffered any seizures from the ordeal, but his lungs were amazingly clear for a cigarette smoker. Beyond a doubt, whether Ken makes it to San Francisco or not, this goal has by far been met.Our secondary goal is to bring awareness to the plight of the medical cannabis patient and to educate any and all who would listen concerning the truth behind all the lies our government has been circulating.  As we have traveled, we have spoken with newspaper, radio, and television news media.  We have spoken to thousands along the way and been overwhelmed by the 98%
 approval by the general public. Along the way, I have been conducting video testimonies from medical patients, their families, and their care givers.  Our goal is to place these testimonies on our website for open viewing and to provide them wherever they might do the most good.We have journeyed 2800 miles across this country, from Charleston, South Carolina to Sacramento, California, where we are right now.  We have done so without regard to our personal safety,  to benefit those without a voice, the chronically and terminally ill, who rely on cannabis as their medicine. We are currently here in Sacramento. We are 91 miles from our goal, the beaches of San Francisco. As of five days ago, what little grassroots support we were receiving dried up. As of today, we have only $35 to get the three of us and our support vehicles down the road, wherever we might find sanctuary. We were told that once we reached California that we would have
 sanctuary, and yet, we had not been in this campground two hours before we were hassled by the po

[cia-drugs] [In Review] July 22,'06, A Day In The Life...

2006-07-27 Thread ronaldneil
Please, reply to me on this one.

I need to know what you think.


Don't just look at the pictures, read the words.

Talk about shock and awe:

http://fromisraeltolebanon.info/


Lebanon - Israel Facts the Media Isn't Telling You

Noam Chomsky  - The Murder Of A Nation (7 min. video)

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14081.htm


Daryl Bradford Smith interviews Eustace Mullins (audio file)

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith-Mullins19July2006.mp3


What is Zionism?

http://www.erichufschmid.net/WhatIsZionism.htm


An Afternoon With Eustace Mullins

http://www.rense.com/general39/EUSTACE.htm







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[cia-drugs] Afghan opium: License to kill

2006-07-27 Thread RoadsEnd
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HB01Df02.html

South Asia
  Feb 1, 2006


Afghan opium: License to kill
By Pierre-Arnaud Chouvy

Editor's note: More than 60 delegations, mostly countries but also  
some multilateral agencies such as the World Bank, meet in London for  
two days this week to tackle development issues for Afghanistan. One  
of the more controversial topics to be tabled is how to deal with  
Afghanistan's opium fields, which last year produced about 4,200  
tonnes of raw opium.

In June 1906, Charles Henry Brent, the first Protestant Episcopal  
Church bishop of the Philippines and a staunch opponent of the



opium trade, wrote to president Theodore Roosevelt to ask for the  
United States to call an international conference to enforce anti- 
opium measures in China.

The conference was held in Shanghai in 1909. One hundred years after  
Bishop Brent's letter, the global prohibition of opium and certain  
other drugs has largely failed, in spite of, or maybe because of,  
more than 30 years of the "war on drugs" launched in 1971 by the  
administration of US president Richard Nixon.

This is what was stressed at a conference on "Drug Production and  
State Stability" recently held in Paris, when Alfred McCoy, professor  
of history at the University of Wisconsin and author of The Politics  
of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade, explained that,  
"after fighting five drug wars in 30 years at a cost of US$150  
billion, Washington has presided over a [fivefold] increase" in the  
world illicit-opium supply, from 1,000 tonnes in 1970 to between  
5,000 and 6,000 tonnes in the mid-2000s.

This was exemplified in late 2005 when the United Nations Office on  
Drugs and Crime (UNODC) confirmed that Afghanistan was still and by  
far the world's first producing country of illicit opium, despite  
alternative development efforts, eradication measures, and widely  
lauded achievements in democracy and state-building in the country.

Clearly, as has now been stated by many observers and analysts, the  
danger for Afghanistan is that a hastened suppression or eradication  
program will, in the absence of alternative livelihoods being widely  
promoted, damage the fragile rural economy, prove counterproductive  
in the mid-term, and impede sustainable solutions to the Afghan crisis.

Indeed, in a 2004 interview, Doris Buddenberg, the head of UNODC in  
Afghanistan, said, "Eradication usually does not bring about a  
sustainable reduction of poppy crop - it is a one-time, short-term  
effort. Also eradication usually pushes the prices up. As we have  
seen from the Taliban period, the one-year ban on opium-poppy  
cultivation increased prices enormously the following year and it  
became extremely attractive for farmers to cultivate poppy."

However, in December 2005, only a few weeks after having lauded "the  
largest decrease [of opium-poppy cultivation] ever recorded in a  
single year in any country", Buddenberg said there were "signs  
cultivation may increase next year in many areas, in part because of  
pressure on farmers to grow opium poppies and their own concerns  
about making a living", thus without clearly acknowledging that the  
so-called "success" in reducing opium-poppy cultivation in  
Afghanistan in 2004-05 had already been and was still to be largely  
counterproductive.

In such a context, where both interdiction and development have  
failed to solve the "opium problem" in Afghanistan, because  
interdiction without development amounts to further deteriorating the  
livelihoods of opium farmers, and alternative development is far from  
having been implemented with adequate economic means and political  
determination, a rather new, but unrealistic, proposal has emerged:  
the licensing of Afghan opium for production of pharmaceutical morphine.

Described as "a truly winning solution" by many, the proposal of the  
Senlis Council, an "international drug-policy think-tank" based in  
Paris, consists of licensing Afghan opium for the production of legal  
medicines such as morphine and codeine as a way to respond to the  
urgent need to significantly reduce Afghanistan's illegal opium  
production and trade, but also as a way to overcome the "significant  
global shortage of opium-based medicines such as morphine and  
codeine", a problem "felt most acutely in the developing world".

This proposal, however, is based on false or inexact premises, on at  
least two levels: regarding the world market on the one hand, and  
national and local opium-farming communities on the other hand.

Supply and demand of opioid analgesics
According to the International Narcotics Control Board (INCB), which  
is in charge of examining on a regular basis issues affecting the  
supply of and demand for opiates used for medical purposes, the  
supply of such opiates has for years been "at levels well in excess  
of global demand".

In fact, as stocks continue to be more t

[cia-drugs] yahoo-groups active spam-blocking is blocking members emails ...

2006-07-27 Thread RoadsEnd
I will admit I do not visit the administration page of my email  
groups often. some months ago a spam=blocked folder appeared. At the  
beginning it seemed to contain 98% spam and a few stray subscriber  
email.

Having visited today, I notice 6 emails in the spam folder and they  
are all subscriber emails, even including some of my own, and I am a  
list owner.

Well, I liberated them, will I check more often, probably not, sorry,  
I get busy at times.

So be aware.

Peace,
K




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[cia-drugs] Fish for Sale: The World Trade Organization�s Next Grab

2006-07-27 Thread norgesen






The WTO's Next Grab


Fish for Sale: The World Trade 
Organization’s Next Grab
Anyone who cares about fishing communities, public 
health, the environment or global equality should pay close attention to what’s 
going on at the World Trade Organziation.
In December 2005, trade officials gathered in Hong Kong 
for a WTO Ministerial to continue negotiating what’s known as “Non-Agricultural 
Market Access.” NAMA involves reducing tariffs on all products not covered by 
the WTO’s “Agreement on Agriculture” – including manufactured products, 
minerals, lumber and notably fish and fish products. Led by the EU, US, Norway 
and New Zealand, trade ministers managed to get a level of agreement on reducing 
fishery tariffs – the questions remain of when and how much.
NAMA will pose severe threats to sustainable 
development by intensifying the exploitation of natural systems, upon which 
millions of people depend for survival.  Among many negative side-effects, 
small fishing communities throughout the world will lose their livelihoods, 
natural environments will be destroyed and food safety standards will erode. 
These negotiations are placing a dollar symbol on every aspect of life that has 
not already been considered a commodity under WTO rules.
Gloom on the Horizon
The NAMA negotiations precisely reflect the entire 
premise of the WTO: Eliminating national policies to empower markets and 
international corporations to allocate resources – typically by increasing 
volume of trade – without concern for lives, livelihoods or the environment. 

The Derbez Text includes a “zero-for-zero” 
liberalization for fish and fish products, meaning that WTO members would 
completely remove all tariffs on fish. The immediate effect would be that 
imported fish would be available in domestic markets at lower prices, 
stimulating demand for imported fish.
While this may seem good for trade ministers and 
corporate leaders, eliminating tariffs on fish could trigger a downward spiral 
leading to environmental destruction, loss of livelihood and 
malnutrition.
Fishing to the Brink
In order capitalize on quick profits made possible by 
this increased demand, fishing vessels would likely increase their catches 
beyond sustainable levels or pressure national governments to increase catch 
limits. 
Fisheries already being recklessly overfished would 
be further endangered. Large industrial boats will fish more aggressively in 
order to send their products to send around the world, while local fishing 
communities will be left in the dust at both at both the marketplace and on the 
shores.
Three-fourth’s of the world’s fisheries are either 
overexploited, fully exploited, or in the process of recovering. Overfishing one 
type of fish has grave repercussions for the entire ecosystem, as predator-prey 
relationships are disrupted.  
Also, 
because ocean fish are not constrained by national borders, overfishing off the 
shores of one country reduces the amount of fish available to other 
countries.  Cooperative efforts should focus on sustaining common fish 
populations for the future, rather than achieving quick profits from increased 
trade. 
Corporations Out of 
Control
Increased demand for imported fish would clearly favor 
multinational corporations, which take advantage of economies of scale to 
transport fish to markets around the world. And these giants have the technical 
and legal expertise to navigate the byzantine world of international trade. 
Small-scale fishing communities, however, are generally unable to play at this 
level and tend to focus on the domestic and local markets. 
As it is, nearly 80 percent of fisheries production 
is under corporate control.  For example, PESCANOVA of Spain maintains 
fleets off of five different continents – and the corporation pays governments 
to enable it to fish in their waters.  These vertically integrated, 
multinational corporations can control world markets and manipulate prices to 
the detriment of both fisherfolks and consumers – in the same way that large 
agribusinesses destroy small-scale operators – while controlling consumer 
prices. 
Losing Their Livelihoods
As large fleets unconscionably squander more and more 
fish, small-scale fishing operations find it increasingly difficult to get a 
large enough catch to survive. Including fisheries in NAMA would displace an 
astonishing 90 percent of the world’s fisherfolks, most of whom live in 
developing and least-developed countries, according to the International Gender 
and Trade Network. 
The Subsidy Game
As 
with the Agreement on Agriculture, including fisheries in NAMA would 
disproportionately affect developing and least-developed countries. Wealthier 
countries have the resources to subsidize the industrial fleets to catch and 
process fish and fish products, driving down the prices of their exports. 

Between $14-20 billion is spent worldwide each year 
on fisheries subsidies.  

[cia-drugs] STOP Specter from Legalizing NSA Spy Program! Use Our Free Fax To Tell Your Senators!

2006-07-27 Thread norgesen






Please 
forward widely!STOP Specter from Legalizing NSA Spy Program! Use Our 
Free Fax To Tell Your Senators!
There is still time to contact your 
Senators to stop Senator Specter’s bill (S. 2453) from legalizing President 
Bush’s illegal wiretapping program and any other secret warrantless programs the 
administration wants to use to spy on Americans. Our summary and talking points 
are online at http://www.bordc.org/newsletter/bordc-act-alert719.php.
Stand up and be counted! To send 
free faxes to both your Senators, click 
here. BORDC highly recommends that you personalize your fax message 
by adding to or revising the 
text (especially the first few lines) to reflect your own feelings.
Thank you to everyone who has 
already sent faxes or phoned their Senators’ offices!
Timeline:

  On July 26, Senator 
  Specter held a hearing called “Time Change—FISA for the 21st Century.” James 
  X. Dempsey, Policy Director of the Center for Democracy and Technology and a 
  member of BORDC’s Advisory Board, was a witness at the hearing and had this to 
  say about Specter’s bill:

  “The Chairman’s bill 
as it stands today is not a modernizing bill. Rather, it would turn back the 
clock to an era of unchecked Presidential power, warrantless domestic 
surveillance, and constitutional uncertainty.” 
  Click here for the 
full text of James X. Dempsey’s 7/26 testimony: http://www.cdt.org/testimony/20060725fisa.pdf

  On Thursday, July 27, the 
  Senate Judiciary Committee chaired by Senator Specter will hold a markup 
  hearing on the bill.
  August recess. If the 
  committee does not vote before the Senate’s recess begins (around August 4), 
  the bill will be considered when the Senate returns on September 5. In the 
  interim, Congress’s recess may offer opportunities to talk with your Senators 
  about this bill in the district, for example, at town hall meetings or in 
  group meetings at the Senators’ district offices. This is a good opportunity 
  to gather allies to show that your community will not stand for these 
  relentless and destructive compromises to the Bill of Rights.
Thank you for all you do to 
defend our civil liberties!The Bill of Rights Defense 
Committee
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Dear Friend,
The President’s warrantless 
wiretapping program violates the Fourth Amendment prohibition against 
wiretapping Americans without a warrant, which must be obtained by showing a 
judge there is a valid reason for the search. Yet, instead of holding the 
president accountable, Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter has teamed up with the 
White House to draft S. 2453 (nicknamed the “Cheney-Specter bill”), which would 
legalize the illegal wiretapping program and any other current and future secret 
programs the administration wants to use to spy on Americans—without ever having 
to secure a single warrant.
If Specter’s Senate Judiciary 
Committee approves S. 2453 (as soon as this Thursday, July 20), it will head to 
the Senate for a floor vote. The bill would make the Fourth Amendment almost 
completely disappear. We must act now!
Please phone both your Senators 
today and ask them to oppose this bill. Look up their telephone numbers at www.senate.gov. You may also click here to send them 
a fax. Please forward this alert widely.
What’s so bad about S. 2453? 
Plenty!
It’s a win-win for Bush, a 
lose-lose for the people. Right now you can sue the administration for 
violating your Fourth Amendment rights. But if this lopsided bill passes, all 
cases involving warrantless surveillance would go to the secret Foreign 
Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review, which is off-limits to your lawyer: 
Only the Administration’s lawyers are allowed to present arguments before this 
court. The entire proceedings can be kept secret, including the court’s 
decisions. Your case can be dismissed for “any reason” with no chance of appeal. 
But if the Administration’s side loses, it has the right to appeal.
And the secrecy doesn’t end there. 

S 2453 goes even further than 
the USA PATRIOT Act:

  by giving the President the 
  authority to search your home and business with no warrant if war is 
  declared, 
  by allowing the President the 
  power to use roving wiretaps without a warrant, and 
  by removing protections, 
  enabling the White House to conduct data-mining of Americans’ private 
  information.
It’s a blank check for the 
president. The President’s program of electronic eavesdropping plainly 
violates the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) that Congress enacted 
in 1978 to prevent warrantless domestic spying by the executive branch. But 
instead of asserting Congress’s oversight authority to protect us from 
warrantless searches, this bill legalizes them and eliminates any meaningful 
checks by a court or Congress. If S. 2453 were to pass, the FISA Court could 
give the White House blanket authorization for its current warrantless 
eavesdropping program, and any other programs it desires. Individu

Re: [cia-drugs] Off Topic But Pls Note, Energy Rationing is Here

2006-07-27 Thread Arlene Johnson
Could this be shades of HAARP?

Peace,

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>Subject: [cia-drugs] Off Topic But Pls Note, Energy Rationing is Here
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> Today London, England was put on a rolling  electricity blackout.  The 
> pundits said that this was due to the  high energy use caused by the 
> heat-wave, but it was actually hotter  last week.  People who do notice 
> things on their own also noticed  that natural gas prices were announced to 
> be raised AGAIN, some 12-19  per cent, in addition to all the other raises of 
> last winter and  spring. Since 2003,  the price of gasoline has risen  there  
> by  91 %.
>  As the US and the UK  (England) basically share the same energy 
> market, you should realize  that the rate of change for everything will now 
> begin to increase much  more rapidly than before.  Today already, the Foreign 
> Secretary  for the UK is questioning the American  use of a Scottish airport  
> to refuel airplanes taking bunker-buster bombs to Israel.  That  will only be 
> the first example.  You may call this the start of  the Energy Crisis 2006.  
>I see general instability increasing on  all fronts.  No doubt what is 
> really happening is that the OPEC  Arab States are quietly turning the 
> economic screws on the US and  Israel to stop the Israeli-Lebanon War.  But 
> this would be just  part one of the longer problem.  Fuel shortages should 
> again  become evident very shortly, and will be dependent on whatever concord 
>  can be negotiated with the OPEC-ers.  But those of us old enough  to 
> remember 1973 will know that gas station lines, general lack of  gasoline, 
> job losses, and fuel scarcity are in the pipeline.
> I suggest all my friends in the  cannabis movement think about this, 
> discuss it, and take whatever  measures will be needed to maintain a livable 
> and sustainable  lifestyle.  Good luck
> I 
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>End the oppression of cannabis and its consumers. Self defense is always 
>correct, and it is never illegal.  b_jb2001
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[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] bull "roads"

2006-07-27 Thread RoadsEnd
Just a little flash from the past present.

Peace,
K

Begin forwarded message:

>
>
> Chip,
>
> And, again you lead off with character assassination the typical  
> act of the Internet troll Sean McBride. Now I realize you have  
> spent a lot of time and money setting up the Sean McBride troll  
> persona (Which has been busted several times.) and typically you  
> just keep on with your invective behavior, because that is how  
> trolls do their job.
>
> You script is very well written, but still a script and your  
> actions and their results belie your true agenda.
>
> I would suggest folks visit to the cia-drugs archive, (http:// 
> groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs_archives/ ) spend a couple of  
> hours and you can see the trolls actions at work. Sean joined that  
> list in August of 2000 and lurked until he surfaced about a week  
> after 9/11 and went to work as an Internet troll delivering the  
> "Israelis did it" meme.
>
> Here in "Sean's" own indomitable words is what he is doing:
>
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:Re: [cia-drugs] On Some Recent Weird Goings-on in  
> This List
>Date:   June 29, 2003 8:42:24 PM PDT
>To:   cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
>
> "There is something very important you must understand: the bad  
> guys have been trying to control dissident Internet political  
> forums for years now.  They go about this in several ways.
>
> "One way is to start and control a new dissident forum, pretending  
> to be dissidents themselves.  They use their control of the forum  
> to collect sensitive information on dissidents, and to control the  
> direction of discussion on the forum.  Naturally they try to steer  
> discussion away from the areas they most want to hide.
>
> "Another method they use is to try to take over existing forums.   
> If they can't manage to take over the forum, they will often flood  
> the forum with junk in an attempt to destroy the forum.
>
> "These guys usually operate in teams of 3 or 4, to give each other  
> backup, and to have the means to gang up on the strongest real  
> dissidents."
>
>
> There is much more in the archives, if one spends the time the  
> agenda of Internet troll,  Sean McBride, are quite clear.
>
> Let us look a bit at his current missive., "Sean McBride" has not  
> responded to any of the facts presented, but continued with his  
> rhetorical tricks, logical fallacies and personal attacks. He  
> continues his trolling hoping to "engage" me in his dialectics.  
> "Sean's" outlooks are very ideological, similar to Chip "political- 
> research" Berlet.
>
> Chip, I answered your questions, you answered none of mine. Are you  
> special? You don't answer questions? Are just smarter than everybody?
>
> Bush senior is laughing all the way to the bank.
>
> Chip, the "eurocentric" group set up the whole Zionist game play  
> and you tell me that a few "religious" "rogues" are now in control.  
> You may believe in the current fairy-tale you are peddling but I do  
> not. Why you have been attacking me and my silly little Internet  
> forums for almost five years? Why do you post anonymously.
>
> Chip as Internet troll "Sean," you spend hours disrupting the  
> Internet with your "vital" knowledge and expertise. Now if a real  
> person actually wanted to "do" something for real, they might try  
> to actually effect the real world instead of just spending hours  
> spouting in cyberspace. But an Internet troll would act exactly as  
> you do.
>
> Bones/Secret Societies have been destroying our republic for years,  
> "Sean" says we got new bosses.
>
> "Sean" is a troll.
>
> Peace,
> Kris Millegan
> TrineDay
> 800.556.2012
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Sean McBride wrote:
>
>> Kris,
>>
>>   You've produced an emotional and hallucinatory jumble of  
>> associative statements with no logical connections, and which do  
>> nothing to disprove the obvious reality that there is a major  
>> civil underway among the power elite between the Anglo Old Guard  
>> -- essentially Eurocentric in outlook -- and the neoconservative/ 
>> neoliberal New Guard -- essentially Israelcentric in outlook.
>>
>>   The first group has been opposed to the Iraq War, and even more  
>> strongly opposes any further military adventures of that kind in  
>> Iran, Syria, Lebanon and elsewhere.  This first group is strongly  
>> represented in the military establishment, the CIA, Bush 41  
>> administration, the Carter administration and even the Reagan  
>> administration (especially the Reagan administration in some cases).
>>
>>   The second group, controlled by Jabotinskyites and former  
>> Trotskyites, is furiously promoting World War III and a grand  
>> clash of civilizations between the United States and the entire  
>> Muslim world on behalf of Israel.  They've hatched their schemes  
>> in Commentary and other neocon journals over decades and have  
>> dominated the policies of the Bush 43 administration.
>>
>>   Let's cu

[cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] Bush's Massage-Gate

2006-07-27 Thread RoadsEnd


Begin forwarded message:From: "Alamaine, IVe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: July 27, 2006 8:49:25 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ctrl] Bush's Massage-GateReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPIEGEL ONLINE - July 27, 2006, 04:02 PMURL: http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,428852,00.html Bush's Massage-GateRubbing the Chancellor's Neck and Getting an EarfulVon Friederike Freiburg and Daryl Lindsey That infamous neck massage: Was it sexual harrassment or just really bad protocol? The recent gesture of affection George W. Bush gave Angela Merkel has stirred up a heated debate in the United States. The scene was brief but striking: At last week's G-8 summit in St. Petersburg, United States President George W. Bush stepped behind German Chancellor Angela Merkel, reached for her shoulders, gave her a brief massage and then kept walking. Visibly startled and uncomfortable, Angela Merkel threw up her arms. A moment to be remembered, it seems: Within hours, links to photographs and video footage of the surprise neck grab were already racing across the Internet -- from YouTube to Technorati. "Bush: Love-Attack on Merkel!" read the headline in the German tabloid Bild. Several Web sites denounced commander in chief Bush as the "Groper in Chief."Though the neck rub happened nearly two weeks ago, Bush is still feeling the rub today. A vocal debate is brewing in several US newspapers and blogs about whether the president has simply made a minor faux pas or whether he may even have sexually harassed his colleague. "You could use this video for sexual harassment training," Democratic Party activist Martha Whetsone told the San Francisco Chronicle newspaper. "It's something you'd show and say: 'No one in a boss' position should be doing that.'"PHOTO GALLERY: MASSAGE-GATEClick on a picture to launch the image gallery (9 Photos). The Seattle-Post-Intelligencer even researched United Nations diplomatic guidelines on sexual harassment to see if Bush's behavior was kosher. It wasn't. "Unwelcome behavior is the critical word," according to a UN diplomatic handbook. "Neck massage" appears halfway down on a list of objectionable actions cited in the guidelines. "E. We're embarrassed again," the paper wrote, adding that what Bush did wasn't just inappropriate -- it was inadmissible behavior at the workplace.Bush did, however, find support in some quarters -- namely Fox News, where political analyst Karen Hanretty argued that the president just can't win, no matter what he does. Commenting on outraged feminists in the US, Hanretty asked: "Aren't these the same women who have been angry about cowboy diplomacy? Do they want a kinder, more sensitive Bush -- or a cowboy? Once again, there's no pleasing these women."The debate in the media has been far more civilized than the tenor in blogs, where hundreds have taken the president to task for "Massage-Gate". "Shouldn't Merkel file sexual harassment charges against Bush?" asked one blogger, "Uncle Dave," adding that Merkel certainly didn't seem to want to be touched. "There have been plenty of court cases over less," the blogger wrote. "Bush has got to have a screw loose somewhere to pull this kind of bullshit." ""Our president, the drive-by-harasser""Our president, the drive-by-harasser," wrote outraged blogger Lindsay Beyerstein. "Like any practiced groper, Bush stares right past Merkel as she recoils from his touch," Beyerstein wrote in her blog. She also complained that by walking on after Merkel raised her arms, he was acting is if the episode had been "her problem." Blogger Greg Tinti summarized the event in an entry under the header "Gropergate."Beyond the press and blogosphere, Bush's antics have also angered women's rights activists and political analysts alike. "He behaves like a frat boy," said Olga Vives, vice president of the National Organization for Women (NOW). "This is definitely crossing the line." Vives said she believes that Bush would never have treated a male colleague in the same way. "Was he flirting with her, not treating her like an equal?" she asked. "Of course he was." The president is setting a bad example and damaging the reputation of the US with his behavior, Vives argued. Bush's demeanor, she said, "reflects a man who is insensitive to women. I'm personally embarrassed by the behavior of the president of the United States."Oddly, people in Germany have been largely indifferent to "Massage-Gate" and there have been few signs of indignation here. And those pesky accusations of "sexual harassment" are nowhere to be found. Most commentators here seem more inclined to view Bush's miscue as a simple and classic case of bad manners.So why have reactions in Europe and the US been so radically different? "Feminism is now mainstream in America," said Larry Sabato, a political science professor at the University of Virginia. "In an effort to avoid sexual harassment, we've also ruled out any genuine, non-sexual human gestures that involve physical contact

[cia-drugs] Fwd: [SPY NEWS] CIA gives No. 2 job to agent who clashed with Goss

2006-07-27 Thread RoadsEnd


Begin forwarded message:From: "Mario Profaca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: July 27, 2006 8:25:15 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SPY NEWS] CIA gives No. 2 job to agent who clashed with GossReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/pl_nm/security_cia_dc_1;_ylt=ArhCyKJYMVR4mqAVI9gpJ4DB4FkB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUlCIA gives No. 2 job to agent who clashed with GossTue Jul 25, 2:28 PM ETWASHINGTON (Reuters) - A veteran CIA officer who temporarily left the spy agency after clashing with former CIA Director Porter Goss was officially named on Tuesday as the Central Intelligence Agency's new deputy director.In a move expected to boost morale at a U.S. intelligence flagship that has lost status under reforms, CIA Director Air Force Gen. Michael Hayden announced the appointment of former clandestine operations chief Stephen Kappes as his second in command.Kappes replaces Navy Vice Admiral Albert Calland, who has been nominated by President George W. Bush as a deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center, the CIA said in a statement.A 23-year CIA veteran, Kappes temporarily left the CIA in November 2004 after a disagreement with Goss involving the direction of the spy agency.CIA insiders said the clash caused a morale-damaging rift between Goss and other senior clandestine officers that the former CIA chief was unable to overcome before his forced resignation last May.Kappes, 54, briefly entered the private sector in 2005 by joining the London security firm, ArmorGroup International.His appointment as CIA deputy director had been widely expected since late May, when U.S. intelligence chief John Negroponte publicly disclosed his possible return as a step that could help boost morale at the agency.Fluent in Farsi and Russian, Kappes joined the CIA in 1981 and was station chief in Moscow and Kuwait after the 1991Gulf War. He also headed CIA counterintelligence, and in the late 1980s, served as the No. 2 officer of a CIA unit in Frankfurt that collected information about Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini's government inIran. -__ ___ _ ___ __ ___ _ _ _ __  /-_|-0-\-V-/-\|-|-__|-|-|-/-_| \_-\--_/\-/|-\\-|-_||-V-V-\_-\ |__/_|--//-|_|\_|___|\_A_/|__/  SPY NEWS is OSINT newsletter and discussion list associated to Mario's Cyberspace Station - The Global Intelligence News Portal Since you are receiving and reading documents, news stories,comments and opinions not only from so called (or self-proclaimed) "reliable sources", but also a lot of possible misinformation collectedby Spy News moderator and subscribers and posted to Spy Newsfor OSINT purposes - it should be a serious reason (particularly tojournalists and web publishers) to think twice before using it for theirstory writing, further publishing or forwarding throughout Cyberspace.To unsubscribe:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*** FAIR USE NOTICE: This message contains copyrighted material whose use has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Spy News is making it available without profit to SPY NEWS members who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information in their efforts to advance the understanding of intelligence and law enforcement organizations, their activities, methods, techniques, human rights, civil liberties and other intelligence related issues, for non-profit research and educational purposes only. We always mention the author and link the original site and page of every article. We believe that this constitutes a 'fair use' of the copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the U.S. Copyright Law. If you wish to use this copyrighted material for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use,' you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.For more information go to:http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml SPY NEWS home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spynews Mario Profaca mario.profaca[at]zg.htnet.hr SPY NEWS owner, editor  and discussion moderatorYahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spynews/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
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[cia-drugs] Fwd: [SPY NEWS] Watching the Watchers: An Intelligence Official Works to Keep Agencies in Bounds

2006-07-27 Thread RoadsEnd


Begin forwarded message:From: "Mario Profaca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: July 27, 2006 8:36:29 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SPY NEWS] Watching the Watchers: An Intelligence Official Works to Keep  Agencies in BoundsReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/25/washington/25protect.html?ref=usWatching the Watchers: An Intelligence Official Works to Keep Agencies in BoundsBy SCOTT SHANEPublished: July 25, 2006WASHINGTON, July 24 — The United States’ spy agencies employ 100,000 people and a global eavesdropping network to keep Americans safe from terrorists and other threats. Alexander W. Joel’s job is to keep Americans safe from the agencies.Mr. Joel, a former Central Intelligence Agency lawyer, was formally appointed last Dec. 8 as the first civil liberties protection officer for the office of the director of national intelligence, John D. Negroponte. A week later, The New York Times reported that the National Security Agency was eavesdropping in the United States without court warrants, setting off the most sweeping debate about privacy, security and intelligence in three decades.“It was not propitious timing,” Mr. Joel said in an interview at the intelligence director’s temporary offices at Bolling Air Force Base in Southeast Washington.Mr. Joel, 41, projects an earnest dedication to bedrock American principles, carrying in his pocket a small booklet containing the Constitution, with the federal employee’s oath to defend it taped inside.“We can’t do our job without the trust of the American people,” Mr. Joel said. And winning trust is not easy for agencies that operate in secret and wield technology with formidable power to collect, sort and store information, he said.So, just what does the civil liberties protection officer think about the much-debated N.S.A. program?Alas, he cannot say. “It’s being handled directly by the president and the attorney general,” Mr. Joel said. “It’s not my job to tell the president what the rules are.”Caroline Fredrickson, director of the Washington legislative office of the American Civil Liberties Union, said Mr. Joel’s cautious stance reflected an inherent problem with such posts, which were recommended by the Sept. 11 commission and have also been created at the Departments of Justice and Homeland Security.“Those offices are crippled by their lack of authority,” Ms. Fredrickson said. “They are directly under the supervision of whoever’s running their agency.”But Mr. Joel said he had the clout he needed. He has worked closely with another new enterprise, the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, since it first met in March. The board was established by the intelligence reform act of 2004, but it took months for President Bush to appoint its five members and more months for the Senate to confirm its chairwoman, Carol E. Dinkins, a Texas lawyer and a former deputy United States attorney general.Ms. Dinkins said neither her board nor the civil liberties officers needed immense legal powers to do their work. “We’re able to bring a strong power of suasion in saying, ‘Here’s what needs to be considered and here’s why,’ ” she said. Among other issues, the board has been discussing the government’s terror watch lists and how people can get off them, she said.The amiable but cautious Mr. Joel made a splash last month by hiring a former colleague of Ms. Fredrickson’s, Timothy H. Edgar, who had been the A.C.L.U.’s top national security lobbyist for five years. Given the organization’s outspoken attacks on Bush administration intelligence policies, including those regarding its treatment of detainees and domestic surveillance, it was an unexpected move. “He’s been working the same issues from the other side,” Mr. Joel said of Mr. Edgar.Mr. Joel was born in Laos and grew up in Guatemala, El Salvador, Panama and Jamaica as his father traveled for the United States Agency for International Development. His father, a German-born Jew whose family fled the Nazis, met his mother, a Korean, while both were working for the United Nations during the Korean War, Mr. Joel said.Mr. Joel worked as a privacy and technology lawyer for the Marriott Corporation before being prompted by the Sept. 11 attacks to join the general counsel’s office at the C.I.A.There he worked on the legal rules governing American spies when they encounter American citizens in their work. He was part of what he called the “civil liberties infrastructure” created by the intelligence reforms of the 1970’s, which established inspectors general, Congressional oversight committees and new laws like the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.“These rules were developed to try to avoid the mistakes that led to the abuses” exposed by the Church Committee in the Senate in the 1970’s, he said. That history of invasions of privacy is part of his standard slide show at training sessions, he said.Now, as the government pushes for greater sharing of information on terrorist threats among federal, state and 

[cia-drugs] Fwd: [SPY NEWS] America's credibility will be a casualty of Israel's war

2006-07-27 Thread RoadsEnd


Begin forwarded message:From: "Mario Profaca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: July 27, 2006 8:16:12 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SPY NEWS] America's credibility will be a casualty of Israel's warReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dailystar.com.lb//article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=1&article_id=74278America's credibility will be a casualty of Israel's warWhatever reasons arabs ever had to trust washington are going up in smokeBy Marc J SiroisDaily Star staffThursday, July 27, 2006America's credibility will be a casualty of Israel's warFirst person Marc J. SiroisLebanon is being systematically dismantled by one of the world's most fearsome military machines, and the bombs are not just wrecking Lebanese infrastructure and killing Lebanese children: They are also making a shambles of US credibility in the Middle East. Washington's effort to pose as an even-handed broker in the Arab-Israeli conflict has always been a ridiculous affectation, but George W. Bush's reaction to the war that started on July 12 has set new standards for a public fiction that no one likes to mention. In essence, Bush and his administration have decided that the primary goal of US policy at this juncture should be to buy time for Israel so it can keep pummeling its hapless neighbor. At the same time, however, the United States claims an unshakable commitment to the Lebanese people and professes to be concerned about the survival of Prime Minister Fouad Siniora's government. This self-evident contradiction is just the latest permutation of America's long history of trying to have it both ways, so it has not exposed a sinister "secret angle" of US policy. It has intensified speculation, however, as to precisely what that policy is.Bush's drive to "democratize" the Middle East has largely been reduced to obligatory rhetoric, which is a good thing because his linguistic deficiencies are not nearly so deadly as some of his other failings. The misbegotten project in Iraq has plunged that country into a maelstrom of sectarian bloodshed, but it has had the salutary effect of demonstrating the folly of neoconservative ideas about reordering the region according to fancy instead of managing it based on fact. It must not have dawned on Bush (not much does) that while Saddam Hussein was no teddy bear, he was to Iraq what Josip Broz Tito was to Yugoslavia: someone strong enough - and, yes, brutal enough - to keep disparate ethnic and religious communities from going for each other's throats. He likely never imagined, either, that Iraq's Shiite population might not be especially trusting of him after they were encouraged to rise up against Saddam in 1991 and then left to twist in the wind. He seems at least and at last to understand that knocking off the government of a sovereign nation is not an endeavor into which even an unrivaled superpower can enter lightly.This is unfortunate from the Bushian perspective, because two of its leading candidates for "regime change," Iran and Syria, are still guided by leaderships that refuse to acquiesce in US/Israeli hegemony over the region. The ease with which Saddam was dislodged had to be unsettling to both Tehran and Damascus, but they breathe easier now in the belief that the subsequent spectacle of national disintegration in Iraq has had a chastening effect on Bush's grand plans. What remains to be seen is how far the standoff over Iran's nuclear program can go before the unpleasantness in Iraq is no longer sufficient to keep America's horns drawn in.This brings us back to Lebanon, where scenarios for a possible flare-up between Israel and Hizbullah have been bandied about for months. One burning question was whether, in the event of an Israeli strike on Iranian nuclear facilities, Hizbullah would come to the aid of its sponsor by lashing out at the Jewish state with its arsenal of rockets and mostly crude missiles. This led thoughtful observers to ponder another possibility: Might the Israelis try to eliminate Hizbullah beforehand so as not to be distracted when and if they decided it was time to deal with Iran? One theory was that a pretext would be desirable so that pre-emption could be made to look like retribution.Enter a squad of Israeli reservists sent to patrol a border within spitting distance of a resistance movement that had sworn to capture more Israeli soldiers in hopes of exchanging them for a Lebanese militant whose release was part of a previous deal on which the Jewish state partially reneged at the last minute. Hizbullah snatched two of them, and within minutes the Israelis began the massive display of firepower that continues to ravage Lebanon and the Lebanese.As it turns out, Israeli strategy has failed several times over. The captured troops are no closer to being released, northern Israel has sustained more damage than ever before, and Hizbullah has so far understood clearly - and wielded skillfully - the fact that in order to win, all it has to do is not lose. Israeli Prime Mi

[cia-drugs] Fwd: [SPY NEWS] Intelligence chiefs urge easing of spy rules

2006-07-27 Thread RoadsEnd


Begin forwarded message:From: "Mario Profaca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: July 27, 2006 8:03:58 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SPY NEWS] Intelligence chiefs urge easing of spy rulesReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060726/pl_nm/security_eavesdropping_dc_3Intelligence chiefs urge easing of spy rulesBy David Morgan Wed Jul 26, 2:26 PM ETWASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. authorities could not track al Qaeda effectively if required to obtain court warrants before eavesdropping on telephone conversations involving U.S. callers, top intelligence officials said on Wednesday.Three administration officials, including CIA Director Michael Hayden, appeared before the Senate Judiciary Committee to press lawmakers to ease warrant requirements for the surveillance of al Qaeda suspects."Why should our laws make it more difficult to target al Qaeda communications that are most important to us -- those entering or leaving this country," Hayden said.The four-star Air Force general set up President George W. Bush's warrantless surveillance program in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks while he was director of the National Security Agency.The program allows the government to eavesdrop on the international phone calls and e-mails of U.S. citizens without obtaining a warrant, if in pursuit of al Qaeda.Hayden said most of the phone calls involve al Qaeda suspects overseas calling people inside the United States.Democrats and some Republicans say the program could overstep Bush's authority as commander in chief and appears to violate the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA. FISA requires warrants for individual eavesdropping suspects inside the United States.CIVIL LIBERTIES QUESTIONBut the administration officials called FISA impractical and ineffective for tracking al Qaeda, saying the law would require separate warrants for each U.S.-bound phone call placed by an overseas suspect."It would cause a tremendous burden," said NSA Director Army Lt. Gen. Keith Alexander."You'd be so far behind the target if you were in hot pursuit, with the number of applications that you'd have to make and the time to make those, that you'd never catch up."Hayden backed compromise legislation between the White House and Senate Judiciary Chairman Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania that would allow a secret FISA court to review the NSA program to determine its legality."The chairman's bill will allow NSA to use all the tools that it has," the CIA director said.But critics including Sen. Diane Feinstein, a California Democrat, say the compromise bill could endanger civil liberties because it allows the FISA court to approve entire surveillance programs rather than separate warrants."It opens a Pandora's box of all kinds of games that can be played," said Feinstein, who has been briefed on the NSA program as a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee.Stephen Bradley, acting assistant attorney general, stressed that the program was tightly focused on militant activities.Last week, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales told Specter's committee that Bush blocked a Justice Department investigation of the NSA program.Gonzales said the president refused to give the Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility access to the classified program. The office announced in May it was unable to conduct an investigation into the role department lawyers had in developing the eavesdropping program.-__ ___ _ ___ __ ___ _ _ _ __  /-_|-0-\-V-/-\|-|-__|-|-|-/-_| \_-\--_/\-/|-\\-|-_||-V-V-\_-\ |__/_|--//-|_|\_|___|\_A_/|__/  SPY NEWS is OSINT newsletter and discussion list associated to Mario's Cyberspace Station - The Global Intelligence News Portal Since you are receiving and reading documents, news stories,comments and opinions not only from so called (or self-proclaimed) "reliable sources", but also a lot of possible misinformation collectedby Spy News moderator and subscribers and posted to Spy Newsfor OSINT purposes - it should be a serious reason (particularly tojournalists and web publishers) to think twice before using it for theirstory writing, further publishing or forwarding throughout Cyberspace.To unsubscribe:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*** FAIR USE NOTICE: This message contains copyrighted material whose use has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Spy News is making it available without profit to SPY NEWS members who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information in their efforts to advance the understanding of intelligence and law enforcement organizations, their activities, methods, techniques, human rights, civil liberties and other intelligence related issues, for non-profit research and educational purposes only. We always mention the author and link the original site and page of every article. We believe that this constitutes a 'fair use' of the copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the U.S. Copyright Law. If you wish to use this copyrighted mate

[cia-drugs] WW2 Nazis Soldier On

2006-07-27 Thread muckblit



From: "Alamaine, IVe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: July 26, 2006 10:39:09 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ctrl] Re: Yo, Mr Roadsend, buy a dictionaryReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]the one-time victims[Likudnik Israelis] are now doing the victimising, using their previous status as a screen for their actual agreement with the policies and programmes.  "Nazi"Alamaine, IVeGrand Forks, ND, US of A---Sam Bush and George Herbert Walker profited from arms sales to both sides in WW1.Sam Bush and son Prescott, married to GHW's daughter, backed Adolf Hitler from the 1920's, and again profited from selling to both sides in WW2. Prescott managed so-called "Hitler's Economy", capitalized by Rockefeller, Ford, Harriman, and British interests behind the name Brown in Brown-Harriman.In the middle of WW2, Prescott began to lay low for a while. We could say he brought the Big Hitler Factory back home to the US, and set it up as the Little Hitler Factory known as CIA, in 1947.The Little Hitler Factory output such hitlers as Suaarto, Pinochet, Shah, Guatemalan generals, Diem, often replacing elected presidents(Iran, Guatemala, Chile, Indonesia) with little hitlers.From the 1920's on, including Vietnam and the 2003 Iraqwar, neocons were often used as a pied piper front on the way into a war, and a blame-absorbing stand-off armor on the way out. Trotskyites, Straussians, Cold War liberals, Schlesinger liberals, Scoop Jackson Democrats, neocons. Look for nazi Allen Dulles at the dinner table of Vietnam pied piper, "cold war liberal" columnist Joe Alsop. Dot in a circle, nazi core with neocon pied piper, repeated per war since the 1920's.The US props up half a dozen little hitlers north of Afghanistan. The modus operandi there is to back a dictator who knows he depends on the US to aid his repression, in exchange for allowing US air bases on his soil.Saddam Hussein himself is a CIA little hitler, and he would have been gone in the 1990's had it not been for sanctions driving Iraqis to support the dictator.Early in Greg Palast's book Armed Madhouse, Osama bin Laden is documented from his own writings to be a nazi, a big business supporter with no hint of populism or trace of sympathy for the poor. That explains why al-CIA-duh has tried to assassinate the leader of Hezbollah in Lebanon, if you know that Hezbollah built a hospital for the poor, and provides other services to the poor.Basically we are troubled by WW2. WW2 should end, but instead WW2 is actually rekindling from the embers in the form of fourth generation nazi Bush Warco. Sam Bush, Prescott Bush, George Herbert Walker Bush, and now George Walker Bush, still singing that same old "militarized state capitalist" tune. And again, nazi dot in neocon circle. We are doomed to repeat the refrain until somebody notices four generations of Bush Warco.-Bob D

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