[cia-drugs] Neocons, Philip Zelikow, the Alleged Need for Regime Change

2008-11-19 Thread norgesen
11/17/2008: Philip Zelikow, Neocons - Additions as of November 16, 2008
Several of the new additions to the 9/11 Timeline this week concern the 9/11 
Commission, in particular its executive director Philip Zelikow, who played a 
significant role in shaping the commission’s take on assistance allegedly 
provided to the 9/11 hijackers by elements linked to the Saudi government. 
First, he blocked requests for interviews by commission investigators 
researching the allegations, then he denied them access to a key document, the 
28 redacted pages from the Congressional Inquiry, and finally he fired one of 
the investigators. Other entries about Zelikow cover his interview of former 
Clinton Attorney General Janet Reno, with which a staffer was appalled, and an 
interview of his close associate National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice; 
she was not put under oath and no transcript was made. 

Other entries about the 9/11 Commission point out that its chairman Tom Kean 
was repeatedly contacted by the White House over the selection of the 
commission’s lawyer, that the length of the extension it requested was 
determined by political considerations, and that some commissioners thought 
that opposition to the extension from House Republicans was orchestrated by 
Vice President Dick Cheney. 

There are also a number of new entries about Neoconservatives, such as their 
push to invade Iraq starting in January 2001, their hiring by the White House, 
and a July 2001 claim Iraq had nuclear weapons. Entries on two of the most 
famous neocon pieces in the immediate aftermath of the attacks have also been 
added: Michael Leeden’s connecting the attacks to the decision not to overthrow 
Saddam Hussein in 1991, which was published on the day of the attacks itself, 
and Ann Coulter’s call for carpet-bombing of Muslim countries a couple of days 
later. Leeden followed up by demanding the Bush administration scourge the 
Middle East until US rage was “sated”, and the charge for regime change in Iraq 
was led by Bill Kristol and included Republican Senator George Allen. Finally, 
in mid-2003 leading Neocon author Laurie Mylroie claimed the CIA and State 
Department were hiding connections between Iraq and 9/11. 

Regarding associates of the 9/11 hijackers, an Arab man in Texas claimed he was 
offered money by Marwan Alshehhi to take flying lessons, a Somali immigrant 
possibly linked to the Flight 77 hijackers was detained a couple of weeks after 
the attacks, and a Saudi who knew Hani Hanjour was convicted of lying to the 
FBI in 2002. 

Miscellaneous entries point out that security at US chemical facilities was 
poor before 9/11, which was highlighted by a think tank study in 1999 and the 
US surgeon general in late September 2001. Finally, an end times website 
indicated the apocalypse was upon us shortly after the attacks, although it has 
presumably been delayed, and former counterterrorism “tsar” Richard Clarke held 
something back from the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry.

http://www.historycommons.org/news.jsp?oid=140393703-734



Michael Hayden Caught in a Lie

kevinfenton @ 4:12 pm 
November 18 2008

Current CIA and former NSA Director Michael Hayden claimed to the 9/11 
Congressional Inquiry in prepared remarks on 17 October 2002:

  “Indeed, NSA had no knowledge before September 11th that any of the attackers 
were in the United States.”

I always suspected this was not true and here is the proof, evidence submitted 
at Zacarias Moussaoui’s trial in 2006. It’s documentation from August 2001 
about the passage of information about two of the hijackers, Khalid Almihdhar 
and Nawaf Alhazmi, to criminal agents at the FBI. Due to restrictions related 
to the “wall,” the passage had to be approved by the NSA’s general counsel. The 
documentation, passed between the NSA’s representative to the FBI and the 
general counsel, states, “FBI would appreciate priority handling on this 
request, since al-Mihdar is already in the U.S.” It later goes on to point out 
that Almihdhar “arrived in New York City on July 4, 2001 on a B1 visa issued in 
Jidda, Saudi Arabia.”

Clearly then, the NSA did know that one of the attackers was in the US before 
9/11.

It is hard to imagine that Hayden could not have been aware of this at the time 
he was interviewed by the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry, as the NSA intercepted 
Almihdhar’s calls for years before 9/11, including when Almihdhar was in the 
USA, and Hayden discussed this with the inquiry (and also apparently the 9/11 
Commission). However, for some unexplained reason the NSA failed to notify the 
FBI of the calls and this failure was later used as the justification for the 
NSA’s warrantless wiretapping programme.

Obviously, the question is why Hayden was lying. Presumably, it was not simply 
for the good of his health and he wished to conceal some wrongdoing. Given that 
both the NSA and CIA were concealing information about Almihdhar and Alhazmi 
from the FBI one has to wonder wheth

Re: [cia-drugs] Neocons, Philip Zelikow, the Alleged Need for Regime Change

2008-11-19 Thread Mary Hartman
General Hayden is lying.  An interview with Colonel Terry Markham, CIA Langley 
might prove interesting since he sent out an email with photos of smiling Iraqi 
"terrorists" in the Iraqi desert with oakbark cami clothing, military assault 
rifles and a US made Jeep.  Markham sent this with CIA contract agent David 
Conway from Lockheed Martin, who was part of the terrorism response experiment 
at Fort Belvoir in July/August of 01.  Conway would later become part of the 
Northcomm operation and in 2004, after training at CIA base in Omaha, NE, was 
offered control of the operation in the upper midwest. 

They knew exactly what was happening, and so did the FBI.  

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Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 2:44 PM















11/17/2008: Philip Zelikow, 
Neocons - Additions as of November 16, 2008

Several of the new additions to the 9/11 Timeline this week concern the 9/11 
Commission, in particular its executive director Philip Zelikow, who played a 
significant role in shaping the commission’s take on assistance allegedly 
provided to the 9/11 hijackers by elements linked to the Saudi government. 
First, he blocked 
requests for interviews by commission investigators researching the 
allegations, then he denied them access to a key document, the 28 
redacted pages from the Congressional Inquiry, and finally he fired 
one of the investigators. Other entries about Zelikow cover his interview of 
former Clinton Attorney General Janet Reno, with which a staffer was appalled, 
and an interview of his close associate National Security Adviser Condoleezza 
Rice; she 
was not put under oath and no transcript was made. 
Other entries about the 9/11 Commission point out that its chairman Tom Kean 
was repeatedly 
contacted by the White House over the selection of the commission’s lawyer, 
that the length of the extension it requested was determined 
by political considerations, and that some commissioners thought that 
opposition to the extension from House Republicans was 
orchestrated by Vice President Dick Cheney. 
There are also a number of new entries about Neoconservatives, such as their 
push 
to invade Iraq starting in January 2001, their hiring by 
the White House, and a July 2001 claim Iraq 
had nuclear weapons. Entries on two of the most famous neocon pieces in the 
immediate aftermath of the attacks have also been added: Michael Leeden’s 
connecting the attacks to the decision 
not to overthrow Saddam Hussein in 1991, which was published on the day of 
the attacks itself, and Ann Coulter’s call for carpet-bombing 
of Muslim countries a couple of days later. Leeden followed up by demanding 
the Bush administration scourge the Middle East until US rage was “sated”, 
and the charge for regime 
change in Iraq was led by Bill 
Kristol and included Republican Senator George 
Allen. Finally, in mid-2003 leading Neocon author Laurie Mylroie claimed the 
CIA and State Department were hiding 
connections between Iraq and 9/11. 
Regarding associates of the 9/11 hijackers, an Arab man in Texas claimed he 
was offered 
money by Marwan Alshehhi to take flying lessons, a Somali immigrant possibly 
linked to the Flight 77 hijackers was detained a 
couple of weeks after the attacks, and a Saudi who knew Hani Hanjour was 
convicted of lying 
to the FBI in 2002. 
Miscellaneous entries point out that security at US chemical facilities was 
poor 
before 9/11, which was highlighted by a think 
tank study in 1999 and the US 
surgeon general in late September 2001. Finally, an end times website 
indicated the 
apocalypse was upon us shortly after the attacks, although it has presumably 
been delayed, and former counterterrorism “tsar” Richard Clarke held 
something back from the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry.
http://www.historyc ommons.org/ news.jsp? oid=140393703- 734

Michael Hayden Caught in a Lie
kevinfenton @ 4:12 pm 
November 18 
2008


Current CIA and former NSA Director Michael Hayden claimed to the 9/11 
Congressional Inquiry in prepared remarks on 17 October 2002:

  “Indeed, NSA had no knowledge before September 11th that any of the 
  attackers were in the United States.”
I always suspected this was not true and here is the proof, evidence submitted 
at Zacarias Moussaoui’s trial 
in 2006. It’s documentation from August 2001 about the passage of information 
about two of the hijackers, Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi, to criminal 
agents at the FBI. Due to restrictions related to the “wall,” the passage had 
to 
be approved by the NSA’s general counsel. The documentation, passed between the 
NSA’s representative to the FBI and the general counsel, states, “FBI would 
appreciate priority handling on this request, since al-Mihdar is already in the 
U.S.” It late