[cia-drugs] Re: who isn't a cia front?
I promise you that if cnn ever heard what Tarpley has had to say as a guest on cloak and dagger or rense, steam would begin chooting out of their ears. Tarpley is an expert on the red brigades and their relationship to operation gladio (a NATO program designed to raise hell in the event of an east bloc invasion). For him toi have the scholarly credentials to be taken seriously by CNN yet then tell a national audience that 911 was an example of state sponsored synthetic terrorism is pretty damn interesting. I would like some real proof he is disinfo before I make up my mind. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, phoenix420 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Saturday, August 6, 2005, at 10:03 AM, mark urban wrote: > > Have you read or heard what he has to say? > > Do you think the Uauthorized Biography of GHWB is propaganda? > > > > I read LaRouche info with considerable interest. They have released a > lot of reliable historical research. However, LaRouche is an op. His > position on marijuana is identical to that of Scientology, another > obvious mindcontrol op. Berlet/LaRouche is a managed dialectic-- both > were student-activist commies. Communism is a fraud, created and run by > secret societies. Tarpley is a recognized "terrorism expert" who > appears on national tv. I don't believe they put loose cannons on that > deck. Many researchers are controlled through their sources--it's far > better if they are true believers run through a mindcontrol paradigm > than knowing agents of disinfo. The true believers have no secrets to > hide and do not turn on their masters, ala Richard Case Nagell. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hjk7qpr/M=362329.6886306.7839369.3040540/D=groups/S=1705372463:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123386932/A=2894321/R=0/SIG=11dvsfulr/*http://youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1992 ">Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!. ~-> Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: who isn't a cia front?
On Saturday, August 6, 2005, at 10:03 AM, mark urban wrote: > Have you read or heard what he has to say? > Do you think the Uauthorized Biography of GHWB is propaganda? > I read LaRouche info with considerable interest. They have released a lot of reliable historical research. However, LaRouche is an op. His position on marijuana is identical to that of Scientology, another obvious mindcontrol op. Berlet/LaRouche is a managed dialectic--both were student-activist commies. Communism is a fraud, created and run by secret societies. Tarpley is a recognized "terrorism expert" who appears on national tv. I don't believe they put loose cannons on that deck. Many researchers are controlled through their sources--it's far better if they are true believers run through a mindcontrol paradigm than knowing agents of disinfo. The true believers have no secrets to hide and do not turn on their masters, ala Richard Case Nagell. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hh5bm07/M=362329.6886306.7839369.3040540/D=groups/S=1705372463:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123345683/A=2894321/R=0/SIG=11dvsfulr/*http://youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1992 ">Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!. ~-> Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[cia-drugs] Re: who isn't a cia front?
Have you read or heard what he has to say? Do you think the Uauthorized Biography of GHWB is propaganda? --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, phoenix420 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday, August 5, 2005, at 08:49 PM, mark urban wrote: > > Lately I have become fascinated by Webster Tarpley. > > > A LaRouche "9/11 Truth" operative who appears on CNN...no doubt a > shadow player in the managed dialectic... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h08dlkm/M=362329.6886306.7839369.3040540/D=groups/S=1705372463:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123344207/A=2894321/R=0/SIG=11dvsfulr/*http://youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1992 ">Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!. ~-> Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On Friday, August 5, 2005, at 08:49 PM, mark urban wrote: > Lately I have become fascinated by Webster Tarpley. A LaRouche "9/11 Truth" operative who appears on CNN...no doubt a shadow player in the managed dialectic... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h3pvsd7/M=362329.6886306.7839369.3040540/D=groups/S=1705372463:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123338141/A=2894321/R=0/SIG=11dvsfulr/*http://youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1992 ">Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!. ~-> Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Lately I have become fascinated by Webster Tarpley's material. He is quite the historian - his research into the venetian influence in England and the rule of the oligarchies is seminal and cogent. His SYNTHETIC TERRORISM book gives you insight into the way governments secretly use terrorism to execute policy. VMANN: yeah, that book is great. if i have time, i will give an overview. he shows bush's movements that day (911) and he states that the attacks were used to blackmail bush to go along with the 'nwo' agenda. vigilius haufniensis Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hadsdpb/M=362329.6886306.7839369.3040540/D=groups/S=1705372463:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123313005/A=2894321/R=0/SIG=11dvsfulr/*http://youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1992 ">Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!. ~-> Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I agree with everything you have said too. best Duncan On 06/08/2005, at 10:49 AM, mark urban wrote: bob, i really don't know what the hell is going on, but this has become such a hall of mirrors, that I can't imagine any serious truth seeker not becoming disillusioned and just screaming "Fuck it!" see my comment to fintan followed by his reply. Guest Re: Comments on CIA's Internet Fakes « Reply #3 on Today at 6:04pm » - --- Fintan, I agree that there is much disinformation out there; however, you must let me know just how Daniel Hopsicker became a witting or unwitting shill for the 911 cover-up? I watched as Hopsicker cut Ruppert loose - not an easy thing to do considering how they along with Kris Millegan and Catherine Austin Fitts used to do presentations together on the CIA-DRUGS angle. I think that since 911, I have gone from LIHOP to MIHOP. I really do not have the resources to perform investigations myself. so I read what all the contributors put out there and then kind of evaluate it for myself. Lately I have become fascinated by Webster Tarpley's material. He is quite the historian - his research into the venetian influence in England and the rule of the oligarchies is seminal and cogent. His SYNTHETIC TERRORISM book gives you insight into the way governments secretly use terrorism to execute policy. I know I have been critical of you in the past, but I have stopped. Instead, I really would like to know how you arrived at some of your conclusions as to who is a CIA shill. Perhaps you can help me by directing my attention to who you believe to not be a CIA shill. I think that is a much smaller list and, with the exception of yourself, it may be non-existent. Am I wrong in assuming that you are that "honest man" for whom Diogenes was looking? Or is there some kind of cumulative deleterious mental effect to the habitual use of Neem? Mark Urban Logged BreakForNews Administrator member is offline Joined: Jan 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 12 Re: Comments on CIA's Internet Fakes « Reply #4 on Today at 7:07pm » - --- Hi Mark, Habitual use of Neem sharpens the brain, believe me. lol We will have an audio show [working on it now] which will answer some of the questions you raised. It's hard to distill three years of watching carefully every article, every word. But try this anyway: You said: I watched as Hopsicker cut Ruppert loose - not an easy thing to do considering how they along with Kris Millegan and Catherine Austin Fitts used to do presentations together on the CIA-DRUGS angle. If the agency wants to cover it's flank on the drugs issue, the people doing that job are going to be saying the CIA is up to it's ass in the drugs biz. That's how you place a primary flank defender. The job of the flank defender is to bring out enough allegations to keep the crowd happy. No more , no less. Certainly not anything that could be a serious liability. The flanker is going to be saying exactly what you want to hear. Now take a look at the list of people who supported the 911Truth.org declaration. Remembering that already John Gray of 911Truth.org is linked to Kashoggi money [by Hopsicker!] : 9/11 Truth Statement Demanding Deeper Investigation into the Events of 9/11 NEW YORK CITY, NY (Oct. 26, 2004) - An alliance of 100 prominent Americans and 40 family members of those killed on 9/11 today announced the release of the 911 Truth Statement, a call for immediate inquiry into evidence that suggests high-level government officials may have deliberately allowed the September 11th attacks to occur. The Statement supports an August 31st Zogby poll that found nearly 50% of New Yorkers believe the government had foreknowledge and "consciously failed to act," with 66% wanting a new 9/11 investigation. Focusing on twelve questions, the Statement highlights areas of incriminating evidence that were either inadequately explored or ignored by the Kean Commission, ranging from insider trading and hijacker funding to foreign government forewarnings and inactive defenses around the Pentagon The Statement's list of signatories includes notables spanning the political spectrum, from Presidential candidates Ralph Nader, Michael Badnarik, and David Cobb to Catherine Austin Fitts, a member of the first Bush administration, as well as Washington veterans like Pentagon whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg and retired CIA analyst Ray McGovern. Other signers range from peace activists like Code Pink co-founder Jodie Evans and Global Exchange's Kevin Danaher to former US Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq, Edward L. Peck; from environmentalists like Randy Hayes and John Robbins to business leaders such as Paul Hawken and Karl Schwarz, CEO of Patmos Nanotechnologies; from populist journalist Ronnie Dugger to renowned investigative reporter
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mark urban wrote: Or maybe, Bob, he is like the Wilfred Brimley character in John Carpenter's remake of the Thing - holed up in his cabin, gun loaded on his lap, afraid to make contact with anyone for fear of being infected and consumed. Fintan has just about shit-canned evrybody he used to get on well with. It is actually kind of sad. because you have to think that he must have held many of these repudiated guests of his in such contempt while he was still interviewing them like a good buddy. Ho fukin' hum! Yeah, I mean, socially, uh, dead-ended himself by committing cannibalism. "Why is everybody looking at me like that?" Well, first of all, because you ate your friends, and then, because your elbow is in my liver. Now you make it sound like heavy metal toxicosis, maybe plutonium on the steering wheel. Or, no, I can't say substance abuse problem, and british beers are safely weak, that's not it. Or he could have switched to American beer recently, that could be it. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's a good question, who isn't on his shill list, > and I might add that in addition to resembling > the activist burnout syndrome which manifests > as hyper-critical inward turned witch-hunt, he > may also resemble the typical cult leader > surrounded by pedantically scorched earth > if he can't give us a list--a list including Daniel > Hopsicker, curator of the Rosetta Stone of > secret US history, the photo of Porter and the > Boys, linking Bush to JFK assassination crew > and Bush and JFK assassination crew to 911. > What has Fintan brought us to compare to > the rosetta stone of secret american history? > > Cannibalism as controversy, could a cheap grab > for short term ratings explain Fintan's tizzy? > > -Bob > > mark urban wrote: > > bob, > > > > > > > > i really don't know what the hell is going on, but this has become > > such a hall of mirrors, that I can't imagine any serious truth > > seeker not becoming disillusioned and just screaming "Fuck it!" > > > > see my comment to fintan followed by his reply. > > > > > > > > Guest > > Re: Comments on CIA's Internet Fakes > > « Reply #3 on Today at 6:04pm » > > > > - > > --- > > Fintan, > > > > I agree that there is much disinformation out there; however, you > > must let me know just how Daniel Hopsicker became a witting or > > unwitting shill for the 911 cover-up? > > > > I watched as Hopsicker cut Ruppert loose - not an easy thing to do > > considering how they along with Kris Millegan and Catherine Austin > > Fitts used to do presentations together on the CIA-DRUGS angle. > > > > I think that since 911, I have gone from LIHOP to MIHOP. > > > > I really do not have the resources to perform investigations myself. > > so I read what all the contributors put out there and then kind of > > evaluate it for myself. > > > > Lately I have become fascinated by Webster Tarpley's material. He is > > quite the historian - his research into the venetian influence in > > England and the rule of the oligarchies is seminal and cogent. His > > SYNTHETIC TERRORISM book gives you insight into the way governments > > secretly use terrorism to execute policy. > > > > I know I have been critical of you in the past, but I have stopped. > > Instead, I really would like to know how you arrived at some of your > > conclusions as to who is a CIA shill. > > > > Perhaps you can help me by directing my attention to who you believe > > to not be a CIA shill. I think that is a much smaller list and, with > > the exception of yourself, it > > may be non-existent. > > > > Am I wrong in assuming that you are that "honest man" for whom > > Diogenes was looking? Or is there some kind of cumulative > > deleterious mental effect to the habitual use of Neem? > > > > Mark Urban > > > > > > Logged > > > > > > BreakForNews > > Administrator > > > > member is offline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joined: Jan 2005 > > Gender: Male > > Posts: 12 > > Re: Comments on CIA's Internet Fakes > > « Reply #4 on Today at 7:07pm » > > > > - > > --- > > Hi Mark, > > > > Habitual use of Neem sharpens the brain, believe me. lol > > > > We will have an audio show [working on it now] which will answer > > some of the questions you raised. It's hard to distill three years > > of watching carefully every article, every word. But try this anyway: > > > > You said: > > I watched as Hopsicker cut Ruppert loose - not an easy thing to do > > considering how they along with Kris Millegan and Catherine Austin > > Fitts used to do presentations together on the CIA-DRUGS angle. > > > > If the agency wants to cover it's flank on the drugs issue, the > > people doing that job are going to be saying the CIA is up to it's > > ass in the drugs biz. That's how you place a pr
[cia-drugs] Re: who isn't a cia front?
Or maybe, Bob, he is like the Wilfred Brimley character in John Carpenter's remake of the Thing - holed up in his cabin, gun loaded on his lap, afraid to make contact with anyone for fear of being infected and consumed. Fintan has just about shit-canned evrybody he used to get on well with. It is actually kind of sad. because you have to think that he must have held many of these repudiated guests of his in such contempt while he was still interviewing them like a good buddy. Ho fukin' hum! --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's a good question, who isn't on his shill list, > and I might add that in addition to resembling > the activist burnout syndrome which manifests > as hyper-critical inward turned witch-hunt, he > may also resemble the typical cult leader > surrounded by pedantically scorched earth > if he can't give us a list--a list including Daniel > Hopsicker, curator of the Rosetta Stone of > secret US history, the photo of Porter and the > Boys, linking Bush to JFK assassination crew > and Bush and JFK assassination crew to 911. > What has Fintan brought us to compare to > the rosetta stone of secret american history? > > Cannibalism as controversy, could a cheap grab > for short term ratings explain Fintan's tizzy? > > -Bob > > mark urban wrote: > > bob, > > > > > > > > i really don't know what the hell is going on, but this has become > > such a hall of mirrors, that I can't imagine any serious truth > > seeker not becoming disillusioned and just screaming "Fuck it!" > > > > see my comment to fintan followed by his reply. > > > > > > > > Guest > > Re: Comments on CIA's Internet Fakes > > « Reply #3 on Today at 6:04pm » > > > > - > > --- > > Fintan, > > > > I agree that there is much disinformation out there; however, you > > must let me know just how Daniel Hopsicker became a witting or > > unwitting shill for the 911 cover-up? > > > > I watched as Hopsicker cut Ruppert loose - not an easy thing to do > > considering how they along with Kris Millegan and Catherine Austin > > Fitts used to do presentations together on the CIA-DRUGS angle. > > > > I think that since 911, I have gone from LIHOP to MIHOP. > > > > I really do not have the resources to perform investigations myself. > > so I read what all the contributors put out there and then kind of > > evaluate it for myself. > > > > Lately I have become fascinated by Webster Tarpley's material. He is > > quite the historian - his research into the venetian influence in > > England and the rule of the oligarchies is seminal and cogent. His > > SYNTHETIC TERRORISM book gives you insight into the way governments > > secretly use terrorism to execute policy. > > > > I know I have been critical of you in the past, but I have stopped. > > Instead, I really would like to know how you arrived at some of your > > conclusions as to who is a CIA shill. > > > > Perhaps you can help me by directing my attention to who you believe > > to not be a CIA shill. I think that is a much smaller list and, with > > the exception of yourself, it > > may be non-existent. > > > > Am I wrong in assuming that you are that "honest man" for whom > > Diogenes was looking? Or is there some kind of cumulative > > deleterious mental effect to the habitual use of Neem? > > > > Mark Urban > > > > > > Logged > > > > > > BreakForNews > > Administrator > > > > member is offline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joined: Jan 2005 > > Gender: Male > > Posts: 12 > > Re: Comments on CIA's Internet Fakes > > « Reply #4 on Today at 7:07pm » > > > > - > > --- > > Hi Mark, > > > > Habitual use of Neem sharpens the brain, believe me. lol > > > > We will have an audio show [working on it now] which will answer > > some of the questions you raised. It's hard to distill three years > > of watching carefully every article, every word. But try this anyway: > > > > You said: > > I watched as Hopsicker cut Ruppert loose - not an easy thing to do > > considering how they along with Kris Millegan and Catherine Austin > > Fitts used to do presentations together on the CIA-DRUGS angle. > > > > If the agency wants to cover it's flank on the drugs issue, the > > people doing that job are going to be saying the CIA is up to it's > > ass in the drugs biz. That's how you place a primary flank defender. > > The job of the flank defender is to bring out enough allegations to > > keep the crowd happy. No more , no less. Certainly not anything that > > could be a serious liability. The flanker is going to be saying > > exactly what you want to hear. > > > > Now take a look at the list of people who supported the 911Truth.org > > declaration. Remembering that already John Gray of 911Truth.org is > > linked to Kashoggi money [by Hopsicker!] : > > > > > > 9/11 Truth Statement > > Deman
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That's a good question, who isn't on his shill list, and I might add that in addition to resembling the activist burnout syndrome which manifests as hyper-critical inward turned witch-hunt, he may also resemble the typical cult leader surrounded by pedantically scorched earth if he can't give us a list--a list including Daniel Hopsicker, curator of the Rosetta Stone of secret US history, the photo of Porter and the Boys, linking Bush to JFK assassination crew and Bush and JFK assassination crew to 911. What has Fintan brought us to compare to the rosetta stone of secret american history? Cannibalism as controversy, could a cheap grab for short term ratings explain Fintan's tizzy? -Bob mark urban wrote: bob, i really don't know what the hell is going on, but this has become such a hall of mirrors, that I can't imagine any serious truth seeker not becoming disillusioned and just screaming "Fuck it!" see my comment to fintan followed by his reply. Guest Re: Comments on CIA's Internet Fakes « Reply #3 on Today at 6:04pm » - --- Fintan, I agree that there is much disinformation out there; however, you must let me know just how Daniel Hopsicker became a witting or unwitting shill for the 911 cover-up? I watched as Hopsicker cut Ruppert loose - not an easy thing to do considering how they along with Kris Millegan and Catherine Austin Fitts used to do presentations together on the CIA-DRUGS angle. I think that since 911, I have gone from LIHOP to MIHOP. I really do not have the resources to perform investigations myself. so I read what all the contributors put out there and then kind of evaluate it for myself. Lately I have become fascinated by Webster Tarpley's material. He is quite the historian - his research into the venetian influence in England and the rule of the oligarchies is seminal and cogent. His SYNTHETIC TERRORISM book gives you insight into the way governments secretly use terrorism to execute policy. I know I have been critical of you in the past, but I have stopped. Instead, I really would like to know how you arrived at some of your conclusions as to who is a CIA shill. Perhaps you can help me by directing my attention to who you believe to not be a CIA shill. I think that is a much smaller list and, with the exception of yourself, it may be non-existent. Am I wrong in assuming that you are that "honest man" for whom Diogenes was looking? Or is there some kind of cumulative deleterious mental effect to the habitual use of Neem? Mark Urban Logged BreakForNews Administrator member is offline Joined: Jan 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 12 Re: Comments on CIA's Internet Fakes « Reply #4 on Today at 7:07pm » - --- Hi Mark, Habitual use of Neem sharpens the brain, believe me. lol We will have an audio show [working on it now] which will answer some of the questions you raised. It's hard to distill three years of watching carefully every article, every word. But try this anyway: You said: I watched as Hopsicker cut Ruppert loose - not an easy thing to do considering how they along with Kris Millegan and Catherine Austin Fitts used to do presentations together on the CIA-DRUGS angle. If the agency wants to cover it's flank on the drugs issue, the people doing that job are going to be saying the CIA is up to it's ass in the drugs biz. That's how you place a primary flank defender. The job of the flank defender is to bring out enough allegations to keep the crowd happy. No more , no less. Certainly not anything that could be a serious liability. The flanker is going to be saying exactly what you want to hear. Now take a look at the list of people who supported the 911Truth.org declaration. Remembering that already John Gray of 911Truth.org is linked to Kashoggi money [by Hopsicker!] : 9/11 Truth Statement Demanding Deeper Investigation into the Events of 9/11 NEW YORK CITY, NY (Oct. 26, 2004) - An alliance of 100 prominent Americans and 40 family members of those killed on 9/11 today announced the release of the 911 Truth Statement, a call for immediate inquiry into evidence that suggests high-level government officials may have deliberately allowed the September 11th attacks to occur. The Statement supports an August 31st Zogby poll that found nearly 50% of New Yorkers believe the government had foreknowledge and "consciously failed to act," with 66% wanting a new 9/11 investigation. Focusing on twelve questions, the Statement highlights areas of incriminating evidence that were either inadequately explored or ignored by the Kean Commission, ranging from insider trading and hijacker funding to foreign government forewarnings and inactive defenses around the Pentagon The
[cia-drugs] Re: who isn't a cia front?
bob, i really don't know what the hell is going on, but this has become such a hall of mirrors, that I can't imagine any serious truth seeker not becoming disillusioned and just screaming "Fuck it!" see my comment to fintan followed by his reply. Guest Re: Comments on CIA's Internet Fakes « Reply #3 on Today at 6:04pm » - --- Fintan, I agree that there is much disinformation out there; however, you must let me know just how Daniel Hopsicker became a witting or unwitting shill for the 911 cover-up? I watched as Hopsicker cut Ruppert loose - not an easy thing to do considering how they along with Kris Millegan and Catherine Austin Fitts used to do presentations together on the CIA-DRUGS angle. I think that since 911, I have gone from LIHOP to MIHOP. I really do not have the resources to perform investigations myself. so I read what all the contributors put out there and then kind of evaluate it for myself. Lately I have become fascinated by Webster Tarpley's material. He is quite the historian - his research into the venetian influence in England and the rule of the oligarchies is seminal and cogent. His SYNTHETIC TERRORISM book gives you insight into the way governments secretly use terrorism to execute policy. I know I have been critical of you in the past, but I have stopped. Instead, I really would like to know how you arrived at some of your conclusions as to who is a CIA shill. Perhaps you can help me by directing my attention to who you believe to not be a CIA shill. I think that is a much smaller list and, with the exception of yourself, it may be non-existent. Am I wrong in assuming that you are that "honest man" for whom Diogenes was looking? Or is there some kind of cumulative deleterious mental effect to the habitual use of Neem? Mark Urban Logged BreakForNews Administrator member is offline Joined: Jan 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 12 Re: Comments on CIA's Internet Fakes « Reply #4 on Today at 7:07pm » - --- Hi Mark, Habitual use of Neem sharpens the brain, believe me. lol We will have an audio show [working on it now] which will answer some of the questions you raised. It's hard to distill three years of watching carefully every article, every word. But try this anyway: You said: I watched as Hopsicker cut Ruppert loose - not an easy thing to do considering how they along with Kris Millegan and Catherine Austin Fitts used to do presentations together on the CIA-DRUGS angle. If the agency wants to cover it's flank on the drugs issue, the people doing that job are going to be saying the CIA is up to it's ass in the drugs biz. That's how you place a primary flank defender. The job of the flank defender is to bring out enough allegations to keep the crowd happy. No more , no less. Certainly not anything that could be a serious liability. The flanker is going to be saying exactly what you want to hear. Now take a look at the list of people who supported the 911Truth.org declaration. Remembering that already John Gray of 911Truth.org is linked to Kashoggi money [by Hopsicker!] : 9/11 Truth Statement Demanding Deeper Investigation into the Events of 9/11 NEW YORK CITY, NY (Oct. 26, 2004) - An alliance of 100 prominent Americans and 40 family members of those killed on 9/11 today announced the release of the 911 Truth Statement, a call for immediate inquiry into evidence that suggests high-level government officials may have deliberately allowed the September 11th attacks to occur. The Statement supports an August 31st Zogby poll that found nearly 50% of New Yorkers believe the government had foreknowledge and "consciously failed to act," with 66% wanting a new 9/11 investigation. Focusing on twelve questions, the Statement highlights areas of incriminating evidence that were either inadequately explored or ignored by the Kean Commission, ranging from insider trading and hijacker funding to foreign government forewarnings and inactive defenses around the Pentagon The Statement's list of signatories includes notables spanning the political spectrum, from Presidential candidates Ralph Nader, Michael Badnarik, and David Cobb to Catherine Austin Fitts, a member of the first Bush administration, as well as Washington veterans like Pentagon whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg and retired CIA analyst Ray McGovern. Other signers range from peace activists like Code Pink co-founder Jodie Evans and Global Exchange's Kevin Danaher to former US Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq, Edward L. Peck; from environmentalists like Randy Hayes and John Robbins to business leaders such as Paul Hawken and Karl Schwarz, CEO of Patmos Nanotechnologies; from populist journalist Ronnie Dugger to renowned investigative reporter Kelly Patricia O'Meara. The Statement a
[cia-drugs] Re: who isn't a cia front?
I agree with you on Hopsicker. I do not recollect him ever trying to bullshit anybody. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, phoenix420 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree with Dunne regarding every website on the list and many of them > I've already tried to out in previous posts. > > There are two researchers listed that publish actual useful > contemporary research: > > > deepblacklies.co.uk > > madcowprod.com > > > > Unless Dunne can show some evidence of disinfo planting, I'll continue > to believe these two are are surfing much closer to reality than the > obvious fakers on the list. > > I found this paragraph a bit strange: > > "Suspicion is directed instead onto the Israelis, the 'City of > London', 'International Bankers', The Rockefellers, The > Bildebergers, and most infamously, the ill-defined, so-called New > World Order. Of course, some of these elements are complicit in > certain events, but the aim is to downplay the U.S. establishment's > guiding hand and the broad CFR/corporate support." > > I guess Dunne hasn't figured out Wall Street runs our national security > state. And don't people like "International Bankers" and "Rockefellers" > run Wall Street? And who set up the CFR anyway? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12htlg87c/M=362329.6886306.7839369.3040540/D=groups/S=1705372463:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123287246/A=2894321/R=0/SIG=11dvsfulr/*http://youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1992 ">Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!. ~-> Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
