Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?

[homepulse]

dear Michael, 

Ok, so to clarify: 
You no longer have issue regarding 'Police State' declaration in article title, 
as per your own declarations: 


Michael: 
Granted the US is a police state. 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/48500 
Granted the US is a police state. Few can see the extent. Part of this 
is necessary though, but much not. I know that picky sounds icky 


Michael: 
Police state there is 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/48497 
The 'Police State' headline is a horror. Police state there is. These 
broad brushes are not helping . 
ps ~ (not helping What? Broad declaration? ;-) 




### now, regarding those Immunities! : 



Michael 
I too was going to mention that the "U.S. placed under international 
police-state?" sounds like writer does not understand. Granting those 
types of immunity helps all of us. 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/48494 
Michael: Granted the US is a police state. 


regarding: 
<<<< 
Good, great..., far more balanced now. I am tired by the time I get to 
email. lol. 
Thanks, 
m 
<<<<<< 


so Now you agree with the following interpretation/position presented? 
(or still think Granting those types of immunity helps all of us. ): 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/48501 


Did Obama exempt Interpol from same legal constraints as American 
law-enforcement? 
> http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/23/did-obama-exempt-interpol-from-same-legal-\constraints-as-american-law-enforcement/
>  


"Inviolable archives means INTERPOL records are beyond US citizens' Freedom 
of Information Act requests and from American legal or investigative 
discovery ("unless such immunity be expressly waived.") 


It also appears to mean that Americans who get arrested on the basis of 
Interpol work cannot get the type of documentation one normally would get in 
the discovery process, which is a remarkable reversal from Obama's declared 
efforts to gain "due process" for terrorists detained at Gitmo. Does the 
White House intend to treat Americans worse than the terrorists we've 
captured during wartime?" 

=== related: 

http://patriotroom.com/article/obama-exempts-interpol-from-search-and-seizure-on-us-lands
 

Section 2(c) Property and assets of international organizations, wherever 
located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such 
immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of 
international organizations shall be inviolable. 



=== *** This Guy Really Digs In ;-): 

Nudge, nudge folks… 
This seems a minor change but let us break it out for you as we see it. Let’s 
look at the section from Executive Order 12425. 
Obama Executive Order Cedes US Sovereignty, Citizen Rights to Interpol 
http://www.worth-reading.com/2009/12/obama-executive-order-cedes-us.html 


thanks 
(& of course I understand if you'd rather respond tomorrow after some rest ;-) 


- Original Message - 
From: micha...@midcoast.com 
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 12:20:15 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state? 

Good, great..., far more balanced now. I am tired by the time I get to 
email. lol. 
Thanks, 
m 

 snip  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/48502 

Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?

[michael1]

Good, great..., far more balanced now.  I am tired by the time I get to
email. lol.
Thanks,
m
>
>
> dear michael1,
>
> Thank you
>
> It is critical we process critically, rather than get lost/misdirected;
> what about the following?:
>
> Did Obama exempt Interpol from same legal constraints as American
> law-enforcement?
>> http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/23/did-obama-exempt-interpol-from-same-legal-\constraints-as-american-law-enforcement/
>
>
>
> "Inviolable archives means INTERPOL records are beyond US citizens'
> Freedom
> of Information Act requests and from American legal or investigative
> discovery ("unless such immunity be expressly waived.")
>
>
> It also appears to mean that Americans who get arrested on the basis of
> Interpol work cannot get the type of documentation one normally would get
> in
> the discovery process, which is a remarkable reversal from Obama's
> declared
> efforts to gain "due process" for terrorists detained at Gitmo. Does the
> White House intend to treat Americans worse than the terrorists we've
> captured during wartime?"
>
> === related:
>
> http://patriotroom.com/article/obama-exempts-interpol-from-search-and-seizure-on-us-lands
>
> Section 2(c) Property and assets of international organizations, wherever
> located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such
> immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of
> international organizations shall be inviolable.
>
>
>
> === *** This Guy Really Digs In ;-):
>
> Nudge, nudge folks…
> This seems a minor change but let us break it out for you as we see it.
> Let’s look at the section from Executive Order 12425.
> Obama Executive Order Cedes US Sovereignty, Citizen Rights to Interpol
> http://www.worth-reading.com/2009/12/obama-executive-order-cedes-us.html
>
>
> thanks
>
> #
> can we please try deal with your 'modulated corruption authority'
> proposal,
> After the Obama Executive Order Amendment thingk, Please!? ;-)
> (sometimes my brain gets so busy it starts to overheat, and
> everythingk starts to melt & meld confused me thingks, dear friendO!)
>
> Cognitive-Dissonance as the way of being,
> Welcome to the future now,
> Soylent Green ;-)
>
> ifin ya knows whatta means? ;-)
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: micha...@midcoast.com
> To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 10:33:35 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?
>
> Okay, see your point, I move too fast.
> Okay, I read again and read new site too.. There are most likely other
> issues, not named, such as is InterPol becoming a Mossad front? Perhaps.
> InterPol like Mossad is 95% Benelux anyway. I still don’t see a giant
> problem as law reads. For example by rules of procedure if anything used
> against a US citizen in court then access to records could not be used
> unless other party had access.
>
> Granted the US is a police state. Few can see the extent. Part of this
> is necessary though, but much not. I know that picky sounds icky. About
> 1994 I met a German lady in a restaurant on Cape Cod. She asked me out of
> the blue, “Don’t you Americans realize that you are living in a police
> state?” I answered that I realized we are a police state but that most
> don’t and won’t.
>
> In some utopian state spying might not just be legal but be esteemed. But
> here the patriot game is still played, even heavily in alternate media.
> At times it helps me to think about the implications of Richard Wagner’s
> opera: Das Rheingold.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_Rheingold
> It still remains that for greater security spying is still necessary. Or,
> in other words, in life-on-life’s-terms, spying is both necessary and
> illegal. In the Opera the Rhein maidens can hand out the golden ring.
> The ‘Golden Ring’ is the ring of power. It is necessary for power to
> operate. Power must have critical knowledge.
> You can see why spy organizations are always referred to as ‘rings’.
> You
> can’t have a simple back and forth. A large ‘inner tube’ must be
> organized so what goes around one way can check on what goes around the
> other.
>
> Now and then people complain about ‘submarines’ in prisons,
> particularly
> the ‘max’ fed prisons like Marion, Ill. This is where a few prisoners
> are
> given whatever they want. Nice suite, drugs, women…, whatever. Yet this
> MUST be. How could trust develop unless those caught in bad biz, as bad
> biz is needed, get fixed up when caught in the wiz.
> W

Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?

[homepulse]

dear michael1, 

Thank you 

It is critical we process critically, rather than get lost/misdirected; what 
about the following?: 

Did Obama exempt Interpol from same legal constraints as American 
law-enforcement? 
> http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/23/did-obama-exempt-interpol-from-same-legal-\constraints-as-american-law-enforcement/
>  



"Inviolable archives means INTERPOL records are beyond US citizens' Freedom 
of Information Act requests and from American legal or investigative 
discovery ("unless such immunity be expressly waived.") 


It also appears to mean that Americans who get arrested on the basis of 
Interpol work cannot get the type of documentation one normally would get in 
the discovery process, which is a remarkable reversal from Obama's declared 
efforts to gain "due process" for terrorists detained at Gitmo. Does the 
White House intend to treat Americans worse than the terrorists we've 
captured during wartime?" 

=== related: 

http://patriotroom.com/article/obama-exempts-interpol-from-search-and-seizure-on-us-lands
 

Section 2(c) Property and assets of international organizations, wherever 
located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such 
immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of 
international organizations shall be inviolable. 



=== *** This Guy Really Digs In ;-): 

Nudge, nudge folks… 
This seems a minor change but let us break it out for you as we see it. Let’s 
look at the section from Executive Order 12425. 
Obama Executive Order Cedes US Sovereignty, Citizen Rights to Interpol 
http://www.worth-reading.com/2009/12/obama-executive-order-cedes-us.html 


thanks 

# 
can we please try deal with your 'modulated corruption authority' proposal, 
After the Obama Executive Order Amendment thingk, Please!? ;-) 
(sometimes my brain gets so busy it starts to overheat, and 
everythingk starts to melt & meld confused me thingks, dear friendO!) 

Cognitive-Dissonance as the way of being, 
Welcome to the future now, 
Soylent Green ;-) 

ifin ya knows whatta means? ;-) 




- Original Message - 
From: micha...@midcoast.com 
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 10:33:35 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state? 

Okay, see your point, I move too fast. 
Okay, I read again and read new site too.. There are most likely other 
issues, not named, such as is InterPol becoming a Mossad front? Perhaps. 
InterPol like Mossad is 95% Benelux anyway. I still don’t see a giant 
problem as law reads. For example by rules of procedure if anything used 
against a US citizen in court then access to records could not be used 
unless other party had access. 

Granted the US is a police state. Few can see the extent. Part of this 
is necessary though, but much not. I know that picky sounds icky. About 
1994 I met a German lady in a restaurant on Cape Cod. She asked me out of 
the blue, “Don’t you Americans realize that you are living in a police 
state?” I answered that I realized we are a police state but that most 
don’t and won’t. 

In some utopian state spying might not just be legal but be esteemed. But 
here the patriot game is still played, even heavily in alternate media. 
At times it helps me to think about the implications of Richard Wagner’s 
opera: Das Rheingold. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_Rheingold 
It still remains that for greater security spying is still necessary. Or, 
in other words, in life-on-life’s-terms, spying is both necessary and 
illegal. In the Opera the Rhein maidens can hand out the golden ring. 
The ‘Golden Ring’ is the ring of power. It is necessary for power to 
operate. Power must have critical knowledge. 
You can see why spy organizations are always referred to as ‘rings’. You 
can’t have a simple back and forth. A large ‘inner tube’ must be 
organized so what goes around one way can check on what goes around the 
other. 

Now and then people complain about ‘submarines’ in prisons, particularly 
the ‘max’ fed prisons like Marion, Ill. This is where a few prisoners are 
given whatever they want. Nice suite, drugs, women…, whatever. Yet this 
MUST be. How could trust develop unless those caught in bad biz, as bad 
biz is needed, get fixed up when caught in the wiz. 
When you think about it the necessity of protecting these ‘unpatriotic 
spies’ is the same necessity that with ‘golden ring’ we exempt spouses 
from testifying against each other. 

Ain’t perfect, but that’s life. 

> 
> 
> dear michael1, 
> 
> rather than us getting lost/misdirected via the ever downward-spiraling 
> cognitive-dissonance of 'broad-stroke' posturing as to 'what is proper 
> posting', in lieu of embracing the more precise accountability we 
> supposedly 
> seek ... can we instead please begin by addressing the followi

Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?

[michael1]

tehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-amending-executive-order-12425
>
>
>
> Obama exempts INTERPOL from search and seizure on US lands
> http://patriotroom.com/article/obama-exempts-interpol-from-search-and-seizure-on-us-lands
> lively comments/discussions follow
>
>
> Obama gives Interpol free hand in U.S.
> http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Obama-gives-Interpol-free-hand-in-U_S_-8697583-80291137.html
> w/comments
>
> Why Does Interpol Need Immunity from American Law? [ Andy McCarthy ]
> http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MGY3MTI4YTRjZmYwMGU1ZjZhOGJmNmQ0NmJiZDNmMDY
> =
>
> Order on Interpol Work Inside U.S. Irks Conservatives
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/world/31interpol.html
>
> Obama’s Interpol Executive Order
> Now this should frighten people. At least those of us not transfixed by
> the Tiger Woods mess.
> http://theundergroundconservative.wordpress.com/2009/12/23/obamas-interpol-executive-order/
>
> Order on Interpol Work Inside U.S. Irks Conservatives
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/world/31interpol.html
>
>
> O’s INTERPOL Executive Order: immunity for Obama?
> http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/12/24/os-interpol-executive-order-immunity-for-obama/
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: micha...@midcoast.com
> To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 7:25:09 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?
>
> Thank you so much for the links. I read them. The links show that the
> immunities are limited. It does not give any sort of blanket protection
> from law.
> Even your congressman is exempt from certain arrests, this was so that his
> horse and buggy would not be stopped by others wanting to block his vote.
> The InterPol is far less than this and involves records.
>
> The articles are painting with too broad a brush. Without protection of
> sources, (one of main reasons), not only would they be ineffective, (as in
> who could trust), but organizations would not give natural
> check-n'-balance to each other. (Reason why FBI offices are, at least on
> paper, independent.)
> The 'Police State' headline is a horror. Police state there is . These
> broad brushes are not helping.
> m
>
>>
>> http://www.justice.gov/usncb/
>>
>> International Organizations Immunities Act.
>> http://www.ipu.org/finance-e/PL79-291.pdf
>>
>>
>> Just What Did President Obama's Executive Order regarding INTERPOL
>> Do?December 30, 2009
>> http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/12/just-what-did-president-obamas-executive-order-regarding-interpol-do.html
>>
>>
>> Did Obama exempt Interpol from same legal constraints as American
>> law-enforcement?
>>
>> http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/23/did-obama-exempt-interpol-from-same-legal-constraints-as-american-law-enforcement/
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: micha...@midcoast.com
>> To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 4:14:24 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>> Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?
>>
>> I too was going to mention that the "U.S. placed under international
>> police-state?" sounds like writer does not understand. Granting those
>> types of immunity helps all of us. They are limited to InterPol
>> operations. In no manner does it allow InterPol to be exempt from
>> general
>> US laws. Here average-Joe only benefits. Alternate media often jumps
>> into things it does not understand.
>> Michael Donovan
>>
>>> You know what InterPol is?
>>> And how it functions?
>>> And what it does?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:00 PM,  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Subject: U.S. placed under international police-state?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *U.S. placed under international police-state* *?*
>>>>
>>>> In the dead of night on December 17, 2009, President Barack Hussein
>>>> Obama
>>>> placed the United States of America under the authority of the
>>>> international
>>>> police organization known as INTERPOL, granting the organization full
>>>> immunity to operate within the United States.
>>>>
>>>> On December 17, 2009, The White House released an Executive Order
>>>> "Amending
>>>> Executive Order
>>>> 12425<http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-amending-executive-order-12425>."
>>>> It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police Organization) a new
>>>> level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign embassies and
>>>> select
>>>> other "International Organizations" as set forth in the United States
>>>> International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m12d26-US-placed-under-international-policestate
>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>

Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?

[homepulse]

dear michael1, 

rather than us getting lost/misdirected via the ever downward-spiraling 
cognitive-dissonance of 'broad-stroke' posturing as to 'what is proper 
posting', in lieu of embracing the more precise accountability we supposedly 
seek ... can we instead please begin by addressing the following previously 
sent to thee: 

Did Obama exempt Interpol from same legal constraints as American 
law-enforcement? 
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/23/did-obama-exempt-interpol-from-same-legal-\constraints-as-american-law-enforcement/
 
(as such appears salient question as to 'Police State' issue, and at least 
directs us back to subject issue) 

=== 

regarding: 
('It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police Organization) a new 
level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign embassies and select 
U.S. placed under international police-state?'} 
I agree, the article's author presents such problematically vague/broad, 
lending itself to be ridiculed and misdirected from a more precise review & 
understanding of what Obama's Amending Executive Order 12425 might 
actually 'Mean'/do/become/be? ( but It DID catch our attention! ;-) 

btw, Be careful your Own 'broad approach' does not hypocritically continue 
the problem of misdirecting from a more critical examination of the specific 
subject issue: Obama's Amendment To Executive Order 12425 
(also btw, "a new level of full diplomatic immunity" appears to present a 
bit doublespeakish: *new-level OF full* ;-) ifin ya knows whatta means? 
--- 
some lively discussions examining subject issue here (also, see additional 
related links, futher below) 

Obama exempts INTERPOL from search and seizure on US lands 
http://patriotroom.com/article/obama-exempts-interpol-from-search-and-seizure-on-us-lands
 
lively comments/discussions follow article 

=== 

now, regarding concept/condition of: 
(if/when/whether U.S. has-been/will-be placed under international 
police-state) 

what criteria shall we use to define/gauge if/what/when such constitutes 
itself, if not already? 

With that context in mind, it appears we might most agree with your 
following statement: 
michael1 wrote: 
"Police state there is." 

;-) 

note ~ (perhaps Obama's Amendment To Executive Order 12425 appears to merely 
'compliment' Reagan's initial Op? ;-) 
kinda a frog-boil kinda thingk ;-) 



http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-amending-executive-order-12425
 



Obama exempts INTERPOL from search and seizure on US lands 
http://patriotroom.com/article/obama-exempts-interpol-from-search-and-seizure-on-us-lands
 
lively comments/discussions follow 


Obama gives Interpol free hand in U.S. 
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Obama-gives-Interpol-free-hand-in-U_S_-8697583-80291137.html
 
w/comments 

Why Does Interpol Need Immunity from American Law? [ Andy McCarthy ] 
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MGY3MTI4YTRjZmYwMGU1ZjZhOGJmNmQ0NmJiZDNmMDY
 = 

Order on Interpol Work Inside U.S. Irks Conservatives 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/world/31interpol.html 

Obama’s Interpol Executive Order 
Now this should frighten people. At least those of us not transfixed by the 
Tiger Woods mess. 
http://theundergroundconservative.wordpress.com/2009/12/23/obamas-interpol-executive-order/
 

Order on Interpol Work Inside U.S. Irks Conservatives 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/world/31interpol.html 


O’s INTERPOL Executive Order: immunity for Obama? 
http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/12/24/os-interpol-executive-order-immunity-for-obama/
 



- Original Message - 
From: micha...@midcoast.com 
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 7:25:09 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state? 

Thank you so much for the links. I read them. The links show that the 
immunities are limited. It does not give any sort of blanket protection 
from law. 
Even your congressman is exempt from certain arrests, this was so that his 
horse and buggy would not be stopped by others wanting to block his vote. 
The InterPol is far less than this and involves records. 

The articles are painting with too broad a brush. Without protection of 
sources, (one of main reasons), not only would they be ineffective, (as in 
who could trust), but organizations would not give natural 
check-n'-balance to each other. (Reason why FBI offices are, at least on 
paper, independent.) 
The 'Police State' headline is a horror. Police state there is . These 
broad brushes are not helping. 
m 

> 
> http://www.justice.gov/usncb/ 
> 
> International Organizations Immunities Act. 
> http://www.ipu.org/finance-e/PL79-291.pdf 
> 
> 
> Just What Did President Obama's Executive Order regarding INTERPOL 
> Do?December 30, 2009 
> http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit

Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?

[michael1]

Thank you so much for the links.  I read them.  The links show that the
immunities are limited.  It does not give any sort of blanket protection
from law.
Even your congressman is exempt from certain arrests, this was so that his
horse and buggy would not be stopped by others wanting to block his vote.
The InterPol is far less than this and involves records.

The articles are painting with too broad a brush.  Without protection of
sources, (one of main reasons), not only would they be ineffective, (as in
who could trust), but organizations would not give natural
check-n'-balance to each other.  (Reason why FBI offices are, at least on
paper, independent.)
The 'Police State' headline is a horror.  Police state there is.  These
broad brushes are not helping.
m

>
> http://www.justice.gov/usncb/
>
> International Organizations Immunities Act.
> http://www.ipu.org/finance-e/PL79-291.pdf
>
>
> Just What Did President Obama's Executive Order regarding INTERPOL
> Do?December 30, 2009
> http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/12/just-what-did-president-obamas-executive-order-regarding-interpol-do.html
>
>
> Did Obama exempt Interpol from same legal constraints as American
> law-enforcement?
>
> http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/23/did-obama-exempt-interpol-from-same-legal-constraints-as-american-law-enforcement/
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: micha...@midcoast.com
> To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 4:14:24 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?
>
> I too was going to mention that the "U.S. placed under international
> police-state?" sounds like writer does not understand. Granting those
> types of immunity helps all of us. They are limited to InterPol
> operations. In no manner does it allow InterPol to be exempt from general
> US laws. Here average-Joe only benefits. Alternate media often jumps
> into things it does not understand.
> Michael Donovan
>
>> You know what InterPol is?
>> And how it functions?
>> And what it does?
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:00 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Subject: U.S. placed under international police-state?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *U.S. placed under international police-state* *?*
>>>
>>> In the dead of night on December 17, 2009, President Barack Hussein
>>> Obama
>>> placed the United States of America under the authority of the
>>> international
>>> police organization known as INTERPOL, granting the organization full
>>> immunity to operate within the United States.
>>>
>>> On December 17, 2009, The White House released an Executive Order
>>> "Amending
>>> Executive Order
>>> 12425<http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-amending-executive-order-12425>."
>>> It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police Organization) a new
>>> level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign embassies and
>>> select
>>> other "International Organizations" as set forth in the United States
>>> International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m12d26-US-placed-under-international-policestate<http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conservative-Examiner%7Ey2009m12d26-US-placed-under-international-policestate>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> 
>
> Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/
>
> Please let us stay on topic and be civil.
>
> OM
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?

[homepulse]

http://www.justice.gov/usncb/ 

International Organizations Immunities Act. 
http://www.ipu.org/finance-e/PL79-291.pdf 


Just What Did President Obama's Executive Order regarding INTERPOL Do?December 
30, 2009 
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/12/just-what-did-president-obamas-executive-order-regarding-interpol-do.html
 


Did Obama exempt Interpol from same legal constraints as American 
law-enforcement? 

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/23/did-obama-exempt-interpol-from-same-legal-constraints-as-american-law-enforcement/
 


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From: micha...@midcoast.com 
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Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 4:14:24 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state? 

I too was going to mention that the "U.S. placed under international 
police-state?" sounds like writer does not understand. Granting those 
types of immunity helps all of us. They are limited to InterPol 
operations. In no manner does it allow InterPol to be exempt from general 
US laws. Here average-Joe only benefits. Alternate media often jumps 
into things it does not understand. 
Michael Donovan 

> You know what InterPol is? 
> And how it functions? 
> And what it does? 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:00 PM,  wrote: 
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>> Subject: U.S. placed under international police-state? 
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>> *U.S. placed under international police-state* *?* 
>> 
>> In the dead of night on December 17, 2009, President Barack Hussein 
>> Obama 
>> placed the United States of America under the authority of the 
>> international 
>> police organization known as INTERPOL, granting the organization full 
>> immunity to operate within the United States. 
>> 
>> On December 17, 2009, The White House released an Executive Order 
>> "Amending 
>> Executive Order 
>> 12425<http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-amending-executive-order-12425>."
>>  
>> It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police Organization) a new 
>> level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign embassies and 
>> select 
>> other "International Organizations" as set forth in the United States 
>> International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945. 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m12d26-US-placed-under-international-policestate<http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conservative-Examiner%7Ey2009m12d26-US-placed-under-international-policestate>
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Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?

[michael1]

I too was going to mention that the "U.S. placed under international
police-state?" sounds like writer does not understand.  Granting those
types of immunity helps all of us.  They are limited to InterPol
operations.  In no manner does it allow InterPol to be exempt from general
US laws.  Here average-Joe only benefits.  Alternate media often jumps
into things it does not understand.
Michael Donovan

> You know what InterPol is?
> And how it functions?
> And what it does?
>
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:00 PM,  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Subject: U.S. placed under international police-state?
>>
>>
>>
>> *U.S. placed under international police-state* *?*
>>
>> In the dead of night on December 17, 2009, President Barack Hussein
>> Obama
>> placed the United States of America under the authority of the
>> international
>> police organization known as INTERPOL, granting the organization full
>> immunity to operate within the United States.
>>
>> On December 17, 2009, The White House released an Executive Order
>> "Amending
>> Executive Order
>> 12425."
>> It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police Organization) a new
>> level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign embassies and
>> select
>> other "International Organizations" as set forth in the United States
>> International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945.
>>
>>
>> http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m12d26-US-placed-under-international-policestate
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?

[SirLord Ronald]

You know what InterPol is?
And how it functions?
And what it does?

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:00 PM,  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Subject: U.S. placed under international police-state?
>
>
>
> *U.S. placed under international police-state* *?*
>
> In the dead of night on December 17, 2009, President Barack Hussein Obama
> placed the United States of America under the authority of the international
> police organization known as INTERPOL, granting the organization full
> immunity to operate within the United States.
>
> On December 17, 2009, The White House released an Executive Order "Amending
> Executive Order 
> 12425."
> It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police Organization) a new
> level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign embassies and select
> other "International Organizations" as set forth in the United States
> International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945.
>
>
> http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m12d26-US-placed-under-international-policestate
>
>
>
>  
>

[cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?

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Subject: U.S. placed under international police-state? 




U.S. placed under international police-state ? 

In the dead of night on December 17, 2009, President Barack Hussein Obama 
placed the United States of America under the authority of the international 
police organization known as INTERPOL, granting the organization full immunity 
to operate within the United States. 

On December 17, 2009, The White House released an Executive Order " Amending 
Executive Order 12425 ." It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police 
Organization) a new level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign 
embassies and select other "International Organizations" as set forth in the 
United States International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945. 
http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m12d26-US-placed-under-international-policestate