Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra tutorials
all of then in portuguese: me (starting): https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/Cinelerra and leo: http://www.estudiolivre.org/tiki-index.php?page=Cinelerra bye, rafael diniz Em Sexta 12 Janeiro 2007 23:45, Nicolas Maufrais escreveu: > Hello, > > Does anyone here has already made tutorials about Cinelerra which aren't > named in the Cinelerra-CV documentation? While browsing the internet, I > was surprised to discover some tutorials which I never heard about. > Ga, Thanatermesis, don't you have anything to declare? ;-) > > Nicolas -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Eng. da Computação @ Unicamp Rádio Muda, radiolivre.org, TV Piolho, tvlivre.org, www.midiaindependente.org Chave PGP: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2FF86098 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- pgprjOLG8ViTS.pgp Description: PGP signature
[CinCVS] Wikis?
I'm somewhat surprised looking at http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs.php today, as I see a lot of references to the new manual and a second wiki. I also see a comment that the old wiki content is in the new wiki. So, a couple questions and concerns: Is the old wiki being removed? It's moved to the bottom of the page with a single reference, implying it is not needed anymore. I find content that is not in the new wiki. For example: http://ftconsult.taxnetusa.com/twiki/bin/view/Cinelerra/SuSE Does not appear in the installation section of the new wiki (the old wiki contains a 'Distribution Specific Issues' page.) I did not find this content in the new wiki. Which leads to my most serious concern. The new wiki doesn't seem to support a search feature. Are we not supporting a local search? I attempted a google site specific search and failed to find any occurrences of 'suse'. (When I limit the search to the wiki. The wiki appears not to index in google. I can search the posted html pieces of the manual... which isn't really helpful, I don't think.) Anyway, please don't suggest that the new manual wiki completely replaces the old one, especially if content is left out. -- Kevin ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Preparing for Cinelerra on openSUSE 10.2
On 2007-01-11 22:14, Nicolas Maufrais wrote: > Terje, > > That would be great if you could add some information about installing > Cinelerra on Suse in the wiki: > http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/wiki/doku.php?id=english_manual:cinelerra_cv_en_2 I curious where the existing SUSE information went that is in the original wiki? I'll send a more general mail, as I'm a little concerned about what I see on the Documentation page today. -- Kevin ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Cinelerra tutorials
Hello, Does anyone here has already made tutorials about Cinelerra which aren't named in the Cinelerra-CV documentation? While browsing the internet, I was surprised to discover some tutorials which I never heard about. Ga, Thanatermesis, don't you have anything to declare? ;-) Nicolas -- ~~ ~ BOYCOTT SUSE & NOVELL (C)(TM)(R) MICRO$OFT ~ ~~ ~I DO LIKE AND SUPPORT GPL VERSION 3 ~ ~~ ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer
On 1/12/07, jim scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/12/07, Sylvain Jousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Salut jim, > > > Thanks for the link. That's the fix I've been using. The fix works for > > Cinelerra and ffmpeg, but doesn't work with mplayer/mencoder. > Yes, it works for mplayer. For mencode I don't know. > > Sylvain. > The fix works great for me in Cinelerra, but my version of mplayer refuses to show the full picture. Cinelerra and ffplay show the full picture, but mplayer just shows the top left quarter. I'm using: mplayer-1.0-58_r21812.fc6.at If I find a place to post a 5 MB test file, is anyone willing to test it?
Re: [CinCVS] Options Converting Analog S-Video to Digital Video
Terje, Perhaps you are looking for a high end solution, but for those that want to do this cheap I know of a couple of options worth looking into. I use a Haupaugge WinTVUSB2 device (otherwise known at the pvrusb2) to capture svideo signals. It outputs in mpeg. Mike Isely has done a fantastic job with the linux driver for this. http://isely.net Another inexpensive option would be a device from Neuros Audio. There new OSD device looks really promising. I am pretty sure when I saw one it had an svideo input. http://www.neurostechnology.com On 1/10/07, Terje J. Hanssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As mentioned in my firts thread, "Preparing for Cinelerra on openSUSE 10.2", I'm sitting on a lot of analog Hi8 PAL tapes (S-video) containing my recordings during 15 years. These analog sources have to be converted to high quality digital video for backup purposes and later editing. At first, A/DV converting might look to be straight forward. But exploring the subject a little more, I think there are more to consider to find the optimum options or solution. As a background to explain why, I've extracted a couple of sections from Adobe's white paper, "DV Compression Primer": page 11 Analog-to-DV converters --- Certain devices can perform a live conversion from analog video formats to DV25 for capture. They usually offer composite, S-Video, and unbalanced analog audio conversion to the DV format for storage on the computer. The 25-Mbps data rate of DV is sufficient for content that camcorders produce, but it can be troublesome for converting sources with significant analog noise on lower-end versions of the converters. page 13 Choosing the right capture codec - When you capture content, you must choose an appropriate codec. The choice depends on the capture hardware you're using, the format from which you're capturing, and your storage requirements. There are three basic types of codecs to choose from: DV, Motion JPEG, and uncompressed. DV codecs The DV25 format is ideal when capturing from a DV25 deck. Over a FireWire connector, you can use DV25 to copy the native bits from the tape onto a hard disk, making a perfect copy. If you use a different format at a higher data rate, the resulting video will be slightly lossy. Using a DV bridge to convert analog source to DV25 may work, but the quality lessens. The data rate of DV25 isn't quite enough for optimal encoding from source with analog noise. Also, the 4:1:1 color space also entails a loss in quality. Motion JPEG codecs Motion JPEG has been the leading format for high-end video-editing systems for some time. The proprietary codecs supported by many vendors of capture cards, for example the Targa and Pinnacle codecs, are variants of Motion JPEG and share its properties. Motion JPEG is 4:2:2, and most implementations allow you to specify a data rate or quality level. Some implementations can even create a mathematically lossless Motion JPEG. Typically, data rates of 50 Mbps or greater are considered broadcast quality. http://www.adobe.com/motion/primers.html - Reading the above, I wonder if converting using the DV25 codec neccessary is the best format to preserve the original S-video quality for NLE and backup purpose. Looks like both colors and video quality from low light situations (noise) may suffer. NTSC DV 4:1:1 color sampling is mentioned, 4:2:2 for MJPEG and 4:2:0 for PAL DV, and 4:2:0 also for DVD and HDV using MPEG-2 compression. The typical DVD delievering format has previous been considered not to be of interest in this context, because it is so much compressed that it is expected unuseabel for later editing purposes. But now also HDV use MPEG-2 and this format has also become possible to edit directly on powerful hardware. Especially if there arise BD or HD-DVD burners that can import and convert analog video to a less compressed digital format, they will be of interest also as a editing format beside as a backup medium already. That is, is a typical A/DV convertor like Canopus ADVC 110 or Datavideo DAC-200 using DV25 codec the only practical and best solution to preserve initial S-video quality as converted to digital video? So far I haven't seen it will be possible to preserve the Hi8 RCTC time code, which also includes time and date of the recordings. http://www.sirentechnology.co.uk/pages/products/categories/enc_conv/conv.htm Well, from before I already have a useable Videonics MX-1 videomixer with a built-in TBC. MX-1 has S-video IN/OUT and does internal apply a digital conversion 13.5 MHz, 4:2:2 8 bit and resolution 5,0 MHz. Beside I have a Videotech VCC3010 video corrector with individual RGB color correction controls (white balance). I plan to use these devices on the analog stream before the A/DV converter, and therefore don't need these features in a more costly A/DV convertors. Although color corrections also can be done afterwards w
Re: [CinCVS] Batch rendering problems
Hello, Does your project actually renders fine when using the GUI? All of it? Nicolas. -- ~~ ~ BOYCOTT SUSE & NOVELL (C)(TM)(R) MICRO$OFT ~ ~~ ~I DO LIKE AND SUPPORT GPL VERSION 3 ~ ~~ ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer
On 1/12/07, Sylvain Jousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Salut jim, > Thanks for the link. That's the fix I've been using. The fix works for > Cinelerra and ffmpeg, but doesn't work with mplayer/mencoder. Yes, it works for mplayer. For mencode I don't know. Sylvain. I'll double-check my file this afternoon. Thanks.
Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer
Salut jim, > Thanks for the link. That's the fix I've been using. The fix works for > Cinelerra and ffmpeg, but doesn't work with mplayer/mencoder. Yes, it works for mplayer. For mencode I don't know. Sylvain. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer
Funny - for my Xacti files it worked in 100%. Thats the price to live on the "bleeding edge"! Marcin ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer
Salut Marcin Kostur, > Hey > > It is a known error with wrong header in MP4 in Xacti etc. > > Fix is here: http://paramoteur.fr.free.fr/datas/perso/ Sorry only correction.sh is ok. Sylvain. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer
On 1/12/07, Marcin Kostur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey It is a known error with wrong header in MP4 in Xacti etc. Fix is here: http://paramoteur.fr.free.fr/datas/perso/ the best Marcin Thanks for the link. That's the fix I've been using. The fix works for Cinelerra and ffmpeg, but doesn't work with mplayer/mencoder.
Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer
Salut Marcin, > Hey > > It is a known error with wrong header in MP4 in Xacti etc. > > Fix is here: http://paramoteur.fr.free.fr/datas/perso/ I changed the script to use only one file. I put the right size in the four first bytes of the second line (after the #). Try one of the joined files (depends on the 'tail' version). Sylvain. correction-bon.sh Description: application/shellscript correction.sh Description: application/shellscript
Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer
Hey It is a known error with wrong header in MP4 in Xacti etc. Fix is here: http://paramoteur.fr.free.fr/datas/perso/ the best Marcin ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer
On 1/12/07, Marcin Kostur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Sorry, one "shift too much" it should read: `basename $i MP4`avi or `basename $i .MP4`.avi I use mencoder ONLY because i got used to its command line params. The job is done by libdv anyway. the best Marcin This has been a frustrating day. If I do the conversion with ffmpeg, it complains about DRM in the audio stream. I hope I can fix that by compiling a different version of the faac and faad2 libraries. If I do the conversion with mencoder, I only get the top left quarter of the original video scaled up to 720x480. mencoder thinks my 640x480 mpeg-4 video is actually 320x240. I had the same problem in Cinelerra when I first started using my Olympus C770 camera, but someone on the list pointed me to a simple bash script which modified 4 bytes in the file header so that Cinelerra handled the video properly. I've run the script and Cinelerra handles the video properly, but mencoder still thinks the video is 1/4 of the actual size. Any idea on why mencoder would see a different file size than Cinelerra and ffmpeg?
[CinCVS] Batch rendering problems
Hi everyone, I'm having trouble with batch rendering in both GUI and CL. In GUI nothing happens when I hit "start", and the only new terminal output is: Render::run 100 In command line mode, I get: Render::run: /path/to/first/file.edl Render::run: failed Render::run 100 (program exits back to prompt) I believe I've accurately followed the relevant instructions from the manual found here http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_19.html My Cinelerra version is Cinelerra 2.1CV SVN 977M Anyone able to point me in the right direction? Thanks, Bruce ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer
Hey Sorry, one "shift too much" it should read: `basename $i MP4`avi or `basename $i .MP4`.avi I use mencoder ONLY because i got used to its command line params. The job is done by libdv anyway. the best Marcin ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
