[CinCVS] manual recommendation
What and where to purchase/find editing manual for beginners? Any recommendations appreciated. I thought I'd find video tutorials, but no luck, yet. Tom begin:vcard fn:Tom Poe n:Poe;Tom org:Open Studios adr:;;1315 Cleveland Avenue;Charles City;Iowa;50616;USA email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;home:1-641-228-3271 note:Registered with jajah.com for free global VoIP calls. Register and call me. :) x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.ibiblio.org/studioforrecording/ version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [CinCVS] HDV 1440x1080 and 1920x1080 display ratio
Hannu Vuolasaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 24 May 2007 > > This is second hand information because my HDV camera is still in the shop. > I'm waiting for 1080p :) > > Anyway. there is program called mpegrab or similar which can grab trough > firewire the uncompressed video. The need of mpegcompression comes from the > DV-media which can't handle the stream without it. > > I've seen this work with my friend when he shot a scene Sony Vaio in his > pocket grabbing the scene. He is real gear geek. > > Or am I now giving totally wrong advices? Regarding hdv/mpeg2 capture: As discussed also on this list and i.e listd on this link http://www.linux1394.org/view_device.php?id=1035 mpg1394grab and test-mpeg2 are mentioned for hdv capture. I've not found these tools available for openSUSE as I'm using. Currently it looks for me of more interest to get a running version of and try dvgrab w/full hdv-patch as announced on this list and here: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1703694&group_id=14103&atid=314103 I'm interested to hear possibly update info about dvgrab compiled with this patch. Uncompressed video over firewire: Maybe, maybe not for DV25 I think, dependent of the baud rate capability of the camcorder's 1394 interface. FX7 has a S100=100Mbps i.LINK interface (while higher capacity S200 and S400 interfaces do exist). DV25 compressed 5:1 uses 25Mbps, or about 3,6MB/s included audio. "Uncompressed DV25" video looks therefore to require about 125-150Mbps To compare with HDV 1080i video that also use 25Mbps, does uses a much higher bit rate reduction ratio 20:1 (mpeg2 compression). Uncompressed HDV 1080i looks therefore to require higher bandwidth than Firewire can manage. > The HDMI confuses me a bit. >> > >> >The CityDisk (the second link in my inital post above) is also claimed to >> >be able to record in DV format at the same time as HDV is recorded on >> >If you are playing a 1080i HDV tape, the 4:2:0 MPEG-2 is decoded and >> >chroma up-scaled to a 4:2:2. The HDMI chip downscales 1440 to 1280 while >> >it up-scales 540 to 720. The result is 720p which is output via HDMI." >> > > > Be sure to check the firmware of Citydisk. Some work, some don't. I believe > this information can be digged from various webforums. Until HDMI capture cards (with driver support for Linux) become available, HDMI is of most practical use for output monitoring. As a more intelligent interface, HDMI does automatically sense the capability of the receiver and does scale the output to HDV 1080i, HDV 720p or DV 480i/576i according to that. Terje J. Hanssen ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] [Bug 419] New: Stop/pause button do not stop sliders and time counter, impossible to do a pause
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419 Summary: Stop/pause button do not stop sliders and time counter, impossible to do a pause Product: Cinelerra Version: 2.1 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: Medium Component: User Interface AssignedTo: cinelerra@skolelinux.no ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, when I try to pause a video/stop a video the clock coninue to run and it is impossible to continue to use preview or compositor window. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Create Project 2. Add video as new resouce 3. drag it to preview windows 4. Press play 5. Press play button or stop button. Actual Results: video stops but silder/time are run imposible to controle it System: Debian Etch 4.0 64bit. Tested on prepackages versions of Cinelerra from http://cv.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#apt-AMD64 Same result to latest svn r1009 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 419] New: Stop/pause button do not stop sliders and time counter, impossible to do a pause
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419 > >Summary: Stop/pause button do not stop sliders and time counter, > impossible to do a pause >Product: Cinelerra >Version: 2.1 > Platform: PC > OS/Version: Linux > Status: NEW > Severity: major > Priority: Medium > Component: User Interface > AssignedTo: cinelerra@skolelinux.no > ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Hello, > when I try to pause a video/stop a video the clock coninue to run and it is > impossible to continue to use preview or compositor window. > > Reproducible: Always > > Steps to Reproduce: > 1. Create Project > 2. Add video as new resouce > 3. drag it to preview windows > 4. Press play > 5. Press play button or stop button. > > > Actual Results: > video stops but silder/time are run imposible to controle it You use alsa audio? tick the '[x] Playback locks up' checkmark in the preferences window > > > System: Debian Etch 4.0 64bit. > Tested on prepackages versions of Cinelerra from > http://cv.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#apt-AMD64 > Same result to latest svn r1009 > > ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] [Bug 419] Stop/pause button do not stop sliders and time counter, impossible to do a pause
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419 --- Comment #2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-05-26 19:25 +2 --- OK, I've changed the Output sound system to OSS instead of ALSA it works, changed back to ALSA it doesn't Yes it seems that it is conneted to ALSA. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] [Bug 419] Stop/pause button do not stop sliders and time counter, impossible to do a pause
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419 --- Comment #1 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-05-26 19:00 +2 --- Isn't this the famous alsa bug? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] [Bug 420] New: Moving Video Clips Doesn't Move Video Effects
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420 Summary: Moving Video Clips Doesn't Move Video Effects Product: Cinelerra Version: 2.1 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: Medium Component: Effects/Transitions AssignedTo: cinelerra@skolelinux.no ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have effects on a video clip, and you try to move the clip by dragging it left or right, the clip will be moved, but the effects will stay in their original locations, even though the "outline" shown during dragging encompasses the effects. Checking/unchecking "Settings->Edit effects" has no effect. On a side note, effects can only be moved in increments of their own length (another bug?), so it's not even possible to manually move effects. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.Add video clip to a video track. 2.Add effect to track. 3.Move clip by dragging with the Cursor tool. Actual Results: Effects don't move. Expected Results: Effects should be moved along with the clip that they're bound to. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] [Bug 421] New: "About" Dialog?
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421 Summary: "About" Dialog? Product: Cinelerra Version: 2.1 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: Medium Component: User Interface AssignedTo: cinelerra@skolelinux.no ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could there be a traditional "About" menu/dialog, that displays basic information about the program? It's ridiculous that you can't even find the version info for reporting a bug. Reproducible: Always -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 421] New: "About" Dialog?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421 > >Summary: "About" Dialog? >Product: Cinelerra >Version: 2.1 > Platform: PC > OS/Version: Linux > Status: NEW > Severity: enhancement > Priority: Medium > Component: User Interface > AssignedTo: cinelerra@skolelinux.no > ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Could there be a traditional "About" menu/dialog, that displays basic > information about the program? It's ridiculous that you can't even find the > version info for reporting a bug. > > Reproducible: Always > > The Preferences Window has a about box (arguable location, but at least it is there) ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] [Bug 422] New: Translate Video Effect Crops Image
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422 Summary: Translate Video Effect Crops Image Product: Cinelerra Version: 2.1 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: Medium Component: Effects/Transitions AssignedTo: cinelerra@skolelinux.no ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If a video clip is larger than the size of the camera, meaning some of the clip is being cropped, the translate effect preserves this cropping. If I have a white image that gets translated right, the previously offscreen parts should show up on the left. Instead, Cinelerra crops it and just shows the default black background where the image used to be. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.Import large white import as a resource. 2.Add resource to video track. 3.Apply translate effect. Actual Results: Translate effect doesn't translate off-screen video. Expected Results: Translate effect should translate off-screen video. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] no recommended documentation that's current?
OK. Thanks. Goodbye. Tom begin:vcard fn:Tom Poe n:Poe;Tom org:Open Studios adr:;;1315 Cleveland Avenue;Charles City;Iowa;50616;USA email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;home:1-641-228-3271 note:Registered with jajah.com for free global VoIP calls. Register and call me. :) x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.ibiblio.org/studioforrecording/ version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [CinCVS] Re: effects are stuck, beginner needs help
On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 22:11 -0700, Randolph wrote: The following page for beginners helped me get back on track for rendering: http://content.serveftp.net/video/renderTest/guideToCinExport.html I'm ready to go and A OK for video productions. I just had to keep looking for answers and I found them. What did it turn out to be? Were you loading the file you exported with the effects on, or something? Gordon At the moment, I'm rendering for the web, so I'm using twos complement for compression, 16 bit linear. The video was the real problem. I had compression set on component video. Now, it's set to MPEG4, the video is fine. Component video looks just like holographic mixed with burning TV effects, so that was confusing. I have no idea what component video is used for since I'm not a video engineer, but my best guess it's for rendering an uncompressed RGB format. It would be nice if I had a school in the US for learning this stuff. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] From PAL to NTSC
ooops, I have bad news, Georg! I've just found out that zooming out is not always an easy task! My project has multiple tracks and very keyframed zoom curves. I ended up using ffmpeg commands for converting my Acqua.mpg from PAL to NTSC: $ ffmpeg -i Acqua.mpg -s 600x480 -r 29.97 -sameq -padleft 60 -padright 60 AcquaNTSC.mpg where -i Acqua.mpgis the input file -s 600x480 set frame size * -r 29.97set frame rate (frames per second) -sameq use same video quality as input avoiding compression -padleft 60 set left pad band size * -padright 60set right pad band size * AcquaNTSC.mpg is the output file name * needed to fit a 1.25 aspect ratio video into a 720x480 frame. Output size: (600+60+60)x480 The punishment for my infidelity to Cin is an output file with noticeably lower quality (audio and video). Ciao! Raffaella On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 18:14 +0200, Kurt Georg Hooss wrote: > oops, that's fantastic news! > thanks rafaella! > :-) > georg [...] > > Edit your EDL in PAL standard as usual. > > You can check your resources attributes by right clicking on them and > > selecting info from the context menu (PAL = framerate 25 - size > > 720x576). > > Before rendering it, change project attributes (Settings -> Format). > > Change preset from PAL to NTSC. > > Select the "auto" checkbox for aspect ratio. > > Check the size of the output in the compositor. If needed you can zoom > > out with the compositor camera. > > Render as usual. > > The rendered file is NTSC. You can verify its attributes by opening it > > with Cin and selecting info from the context menu (NTSC = framerate > > 29.97 - size 720x480). ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] manual recommendation
There are some video tutorials on cvs.cinelerra.org under documentation at the bottom of the page. :) On 5/26/07, Tom Poe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What and where to purchase/find editing manual for beginners? Any recommendations appreciated. I thought I'd find video tutorials, but no luck, yet. Tom -- Thanks, Aaron Newcomb http://www.thesourceshow.org http://www.opennewsshow.org ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] no recommended documentation that's current?
On 2007-05-26 20:46, Tom Poe wrote: > OK. Thanks. Goodbye. > Tom It is often amazing how email does not convey emotion, yet in other situations people seem very tense. ;) Did you look at the documentation link at http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs.php ? This is the place to start. The manual is fairly comprehensive. -- Kevin ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
