Re: [CinCV] about cin-4 merge

2008-12-01 Thread Johannes Sixt
On Samstag, 29. November 2008, rafael2k wrote:
> Hello people,
> How is going the cin-4 merge?
> Anyone working in it?

It seems that work has stalled. I tried it myself, but it turns out to be an 
enormous undertaking. I decided that I have more pressing work to do 
elsewhere. I do want to complete the merge - but not just yet.

-- Hannes

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Re: [CinCV] Help syncing sound to video

2008-12-01 Thread Eli Billauer

Hello,


A simple and dirty trick: Edit the sound track, and put claps in the 
instances where you want a switch. Or clap hands in the beginning of 
each bar (if it's a rhytmic song, the drums do that job for you). It 
takes a little work to prepare this, but after this is completed, your 
work is easier and more accurate than any other solution.



Hand claps and drums are easy to spot visually in the track's graphical 
display, and allow perfect timing matches with picture.



Note that you can safely replace the source sound file ("asset") with 
the edited one (on the hard disk) for this purpose, and return the 
original back for final rendering (but make sure they are identical in 
length and format).



Good luck,

   Eli


Dan Hibiki wrote:

Hi, I've just started recently getting into editing using Cinelerra 
over the past couple of weeks. I've read most of the simple tutorials 
and I've searched around the mailing list archives so sorry if this 
has an obvious answer.


I'm trying to edit together a music video and the problem I'm having 
is I can't figure out a reliable way to accurately sync clips up with 
the sound. For example a certain instrument plays I might want a clip 
to start playing at that exact frame. Last time I did any video 
editing was in an old version of Adobe Premiere where I was able to 
accomplish this mainly by dragging the timeline cursor around, as 
sound would play as you did this even if you only moved forward a 
single frame. Doing that, I could pinpoint the exact moment I was 
looking for in the audio and drop the clip in or just watch the video 
playback and see if everything was happening in sync. In Cinelerra 
however if I press the button that moves the playback one frame 
forward no sound is played. As for using the waveform graphic, it's 
not very useful for what I need.


So does anyone have any suggestions? For example, is there a way to 
control playback speed and just have the preview run in slow motion? I 
could export pieces and preview them in mplayer since that has slow 
motion playback but that would be tedious.





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[CinCV] sound/ video synchronisation

2008-12-01 Thread schoappied

Hi,

I'm a complete newbie when it comes to video editing, but like to learn it.

I have a problem.

A friend of mine has made a dvd which contains a talk/ presentation. But 
the sound and video are not equal in that part.  The sound comes later...


This are the files on the dvd:

/media/cdrom0/ULEADDMF/ULEAD_ARCHIVE
/media/cdrom0/ULEADDMF/06_OneS11_W.ufo
/media/cdrom0/ULEADDMF/AU_00_00.mp3
/media/cdrom0/ULEADDMF/DMF_ON_DISC.dwz

/media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP
/media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO
/media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB
/media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.BUP
/media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.IFO
/media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB
/media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_2.VOB
/media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_3.VOB
/media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_4.VOB
/media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_5.VOB

This ones should be edited:

/media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB
/media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_2.VOB

Is the problem clear? How should I work this out?

thanks in advance,

\s

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Re: [CinCV] stop button locks out further rew/play/stop/ff functions

2008-12-01 Thread James Cook
> I have a problem with my stop buttons: whenever I use them they cause
> the window they're clicked in to lock up and become mostly
> unresponsive!
>
> Here's what I do:
> 1) Start cinelerra (built from git today, and also 5 months ago, both
> have same problem)
> 2) Load a clip or music file, drag it into the timeline
> 3) Press play button
> 4) Press stop button (here in some cases the timeline continues to animate
> a playback, in others it stops)
> 5) Press Rewind-to-start button (or whatever) : no reaction.
>
> In the timeline I also can't take any mouse action on the timeline
> itself, though I can sometimes toggle the "Play Track" on individual
> chanells. Other windows remain mostly responsive.
>
> When I do similar things in the Viewer window, that window locks up in
> a similar way, but other windows remain responsive.
>
> When I do similar things in the Compositor window, that window locks
> up in a similar way, and it takes down the Timeline window too.
>
> My old build didn't used to work this way, but started behaving that
> way in the last couple months. Possibly some Debian backports
> multimedia lib changed under its feet, but on the other thand the
> version built today fares no better.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> This is a very good description of a problem that I had about a month ago.
The problem turned out to be the ALSA playback audio driver.  When I
switched back to OSS (I think) the problem vanished altogether.  Try
changing your playback audio driver and see if that helps.

James Cook


Re: [CinCV] about cin-4 merge

2008-12-01 Thread Valentina Messeri

:d,

thx!


On Samstag, 29. November 2008, rafael2k wrote:

Hello people,
How is going the cin-4 merge?
Anyone working in it?


It seems that work has stalled. I tried it myself, but it turns out to be an
enormous undertaking. I decided that I have more pressing work to do
elsewhere. I do want to complete the merge - but not just yet.

-- Hannes

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Re: [CinCV] Help syncing sound to video

2008-12-01 Thread Kurt Georg Hooss

Yes I remember I missed that feature too sometimes,
in FinalCut one can actually hear those 40 milliseconds of sound
when just one frame is played. It makes a lot of sense.

In cinelerra, I have learned to help myself by an iterative procedure:
place a label close to the sound where you want to start the clip,
and then play back from the label to hear how close it is.

it is not always easy to hit exactly the right point,
but by correcting the label position several times,
one can get fairly accurate.

Hope this helps...
Cheers, Georg




On Monday 01 December 2008 08:17:35 Dan Hibiki wrote:
> Hi, I've just started recently getting into editing using Cinelerra over
> the past couple of weeks. I've read most of the simple tutorials and I've
> searched around the mailing list archives so sorry if this has an obvious
> answer.
>
> I'm trying to edit together a music video and the problem I'm having is I
> can't figure out a reliable way to accurately sync clips up with the sound.
> For example a certain instrument plays I might want a clip to start playing
> at that exact frame. Last time I did any video editing was in an old
> version of Adobe Premiere where I was able to accomplish this mainly by
> dragging the timeline cursor around, as sound would play as you did this
> even if you only moved forward a single frame. Doing that, I could pinpoint
> the exact moment I was looking for in the audio and drop the clip in or
> just watch the video playback and see if everything was happening in sync.
> In Cinelerra however if I press the button that moves the playback one
> frame forward no sound is played. As for using the waveform graphic, it's
> not very useful for what I need.
>
> So does anyone have any suggestions? For example, is there a way to control
> playback speed and just have the preview run in slow motion? I could export
> pieces and preview them in mplayer since that has slow motion playback but
> that would be tedious.



-- 
dr. kurt georg hooss
kurts film / schoepfung & wandel
breite strasse 6-8, d-23552 luebeck
kurts-film.de

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Re: [CinCV] stop button locks out further rew/play/stop/ff functions

2008-12-01 Thread Kurt Georg Hooss

Errrmmm err... 

WHAT?
?!!

(totally confused)




On Saturday 29 November 2008 20:21:14 David Morse wrote:
> In a way, each of us has an ALSA lockup to face. For some, shyness
> might be their ALSA lockup. For others, a lack of education might be
> their ALSA lockup. For us, the ALSA lockup is a big, dangerous bug who
> hates our movies. But as sure as my email is d c morse 'AT' gmail
> 'DOT' com, the people of cinelerra 'AT' skolelinux 'DOT' no can
> conquer their own personal ALSA lockup, who also happens to be *the
> actual* ALSA Lockup!



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[CinCV] i would like to contribute my help

2008-12-01 Thread Tom Judge

Hi:
 
I am a 30+ year Television Engineer Veterin. Relative new to Linux (1998) Now 
run Fedora Linux and very impresee and interrested (and frustrated at times) 
with cinelerra and would like to help. I know a little about a lot of different 
programming languages, I am very good at technical writing and documantation 
and I also need help as I have been unable so far to get a stable versuion 
running on my fedora.
 
let me know what I cvan do to help and possibley get a bit of a jumpstart on my 
own system
 
Thanks and good work so far
 
Tom Judge, ABC television network NYC
 

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Re: [CinCV] i would like to contribute my help

2008-12-01 Thread rafael2k
Are you able to download the source from the git repository and compile 
cinelerra by yourself?
What are the problems you are facing with?

bye,
rafael diniz


Em Monday 01 December 2008, Tom Judge escreveu:
> Hi:
>
> I am a 30+ year Television Engineer Veterin. Relative new to Linux (1998)
> Now run Fedora Linux and very impresee and interrested (and frustrated at
> times) with cinelerra and would like to help. I know a little about a lot
> of different programming languages, I am very good at technical writing and
> documantation and I also need help as I have been unable so far to get a
> stable versuion running on my fedora.
>
> let me know what I cvan do to help and possibley get a bit of a jumpstart
> on my own system
>
> Thanks and good work so far
>
> Tom Judge, ABC television network NYC



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