[CinCV] Compositor keyframing and scene change

2010-11-03 Thread Ivan Volosyuk
According to manuals Cinelerra keyframes are actually between frames,
but how far is the keyframe from previous and next keyframe in time?
I have very specific need: I have one scene which is zoomed in
significantly. Next scene should use default projection (no zoom).

It seems in cinelerra that means that I should have zoomed in
projection parameters [0,0, 3] after the last frame in first scene. I
also need default projection [0,0, 1]  before the first frame of
second scene. It seems they refer to the same parameters set. Does the
keyframe is located immediately before the next frame and frame-time
away from previous frame?
--
Ivan

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[CinCV] How to install Cinelerra on Ubuntu Maverick 10.10 ?

2010-11-03 Thread PATRICK P
Hello,

I want to install Cinelerra on Ubuntu Maverick 10.10. Please, help me to get
and nstall the package (sources list, command to install)

Thanks,

Patrick


[CinCV] Re: Compositor keyframing and scene change

2010-11-03 Thread Simeon Völkel
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Hello Ivan,

Cinelerra uses a maybe not too intuitive interpolation strategy:

If the value can't change between two keyframes (or imaginary keyframes
that were created by interpolation between existing ones) it uses the value
of the preceding (imaginary) keyframe until the new keyframe is reached.

 It seems in cinelerra that means that I should have zoomed in
 projection parameters [0,0, 3] after the last frame in first scene. I
 also need default projection [0,0, 1]  before the first frame of
 second scene. 

I think you want to have [0,0,3] *at* the last frame in first scene and
[0,0,1] *at* the first frame of the second scene. That would make the
Timeline look as follows (zoom in in order to see the single frames in
cinelerra's timeline)

F|K L|k f|S

where:

F = First clip
K = Keyframe [0,0,3] at beginning of
L = Last frame of first clip
k = keyframe [0,0,1] at beginning of
f = first frame of second clip
S = Second clip
| = Tick/border between two frames, however Keyframes are shown as sitting
on the preceding border.

I hope that explanation was sufficient :)

With best regards,
Simeon
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Re: [CinCV] How to install Cinelerra on Ubuntu Maverick 10.10 ?

2010-11-03 Thread Haldun ALTAN




No cinelerra for ubuntu maverick I guess ..You should take 10.04

Le 02/11/2010 14:49, PATRICK P a écrit :
Hello,
  
I want to install Cinelerra on Ubuntu Maverick 10.10. Please, help me
to get
and nstall the package (sources list, command to install)
  
Thanks,
  
Patrick




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Re: [CinCV] How to install Cinelerra on Ubuntu Maverick 10.10 ?

2010-11-03 Thread Raffaella Traniello

On 03/11/10 14:05, Haldun ALTAN wrote:

 No cinelerra for ubuntu maverick I guess ..You should take 10.04


There are no packages for Ubuntu 10.10.

Instead of moving backward to 10.04 you could try moving forward and 
compile CinelerraCV from source.

It is not so difficult once you have the right dependencies list.

Here you can find detailed instructions:
http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/compilation.html

Good luck!
Raffaella



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Re: [CinCV] Compositor keyframing and scene change

2010-11-03 Thread Johannes Sixt
On Montag, 1. November 2010, Ivan Volosyuk wrote:
 According to manuals Cinelerra keyframes are actually between frames,

This is not true in general. Keyframes can be located anywhere. But as long as 
you have the option Align cursor on frames switched on (Settings menu), you 
are forced to put them between frames.

 but how far is the keyframe from previous and next keyframe in time?
 I have very specific need: I have one scene which is zoomed in
 significantly. Next scene should use default projection (no zoom).

Place a keyframe with zoom 3 on (before) the last frame of the first scene and 
a keyframe with zoom 1 on (before) the first frame of the second scene. To do 
that, you have to zoom into the timeline until you see individual frames.

If the zoomed scene is the very first one on the track, you don't even need a 
zoom 3 keyframe at the beginning of that scene.

-- Hannes

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