Re: [CinCVS] dv grabbing (off topic)

2006-09-25 Thread Piotr Legiecki

Użytkownik Brendan Conoboy napisał:

Piotr Legiecki wrote:


error message:
 frame dropped: timecode 00:25:27.10 date 2006.09.04 09:42:59
This error means that the ieee1394 driver received an incomplete frame.
.


Is it something wrong with my system?



Are you using Cinelerra or dvgrab to get the data?  I usually use dvgrab 
myself, and used to see this all the time.  Even if I didn't do anything 
else.  The problem on my system was that dvgrab's default buffer size 
was too small (100).  Using dvgrab --buffers 500 took care of it no 
matter how much else I was doing at the same time.  If you're capturing 
with cinelerra, perhaps there is a similar solution.




dvgrab 2.0. grabbing from cinelerra is not working ;-(

Hm, buffers, I have to try that. Thanx.
P.

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Re: [CinCVS] dv grabbing (off topic)

2006-09-24 Thread Nicolas
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 11:27:41AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Nicolas wrote:
> > Well, you're lucky. Because on my system, if I launch a CPU consuming
> > task, the burning process can stops for some 1/10th of a second.
> 
> Make sure the interrupt-unmask flag is set for your hard drives; see "man
> hdparm".  On many systems it is not the default (because it can, rarely,
> be dangerous) but your system will effectively lock up for a fraction of a
> second every time a large disk access occurs, if this flag is not set.
> It's pretty much a necessity for activities like DVD burning.
> -- 
> Matthew Skala

Matthew,

In fact, I applied what's written in the cinelerra manual:
file:///home/oxstone/cinelerra.html#SPEEDING%20UP%20THE%20HARD%20DRIVE

I got such lines in my /etc/init.d/local file:
hdparm -c3 -d1 -u1 -k1 /dev/hda

Nicolas.

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Re: [CinCVS] dv grabbing (off topic)

2006-09-24 Thread mskala
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Nicolas wrote:
> Well, you're lucky. Because on my system, if I launch a CPU consuming
> task, the burning process can stops for some 1/10th of a second.

Make sure the interrupt-unmask flag is set for your hard drives; see "man
hdparm".  On many systems it is not the default (because it can, rarely,
be dangerous) but your system will effectively lock up for a fraction of a
second every time a large disk access occurs, if this flag is not set.
It's pretty much a necessity for activities like DVD burning.
-- 
Matthew Skala
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Embrace and defend.
http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/

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Re: [CinCVS] dv grabbing (off topic)

2006-09-24 Thread Brendan Conoboy

Piotr Legiecki wrote:

error message:
 frame dropped: timecode 00:25:27.10 date 2006.09.04 09:42:59
This error means that the ieee1394 driver received an incomplete frame.
.


Is it something wrong with my system?


Are you using Cinelerra or dvgrab to get the data?  I usually use dvgrab 
myself, and used to see this all the time.  Even if I didn't do anything 
else.  The problem on my system was that dvgrab's default buffer size 
was too small (100).  Using dvgrab --buffers 500 took care of it no 
matter how much else I was doing at the same time.  If you're capturing 
with cinelerra, perhaps there is a similar solution.


-Brendan ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: [CinCVS] dv grabbing (off topic)

2006-09-23 Thread Nicolas
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 09:01:56PM +0930, Pierre Marc Dumuid wrote:
> 
> >BTW, that's the same for burning DVD. If you want to be SURE the DVD are
> >perfectly burn, I have to do nothing except burning on my computer. I
> >burn at 4x speed only.
> >  
> Huh??  I've burnt 2 DVD disks at once on my computer (using 2 dvd 
> burners) and didn't really have any problems..
> Given that you can buy tower DVD duplicators that duplicate 3 disks at 
> once, I was wondering why linux isn't able to do it either..
> 
> but, I guess it shouldn't be recommended..
> :)

Pierre-Marc,

Well, you're lucky. Because on my system, if I launch a CPU consuming
task, the burning process can stops for some 1/10th of a second.

Since my DVD must be perfectly readable (I don't want to see any
return), I then decided to do nothing else than burning my DVD and...
looking at the TV with my DVB tuner card.

My DVD burner is a Plextor PX-716A IDE, and I burn the DVD with that
command:
nice -n -20 growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=2 -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video -V
VIDEO ./ && eject /dev/cdrom

Nicolas.

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Re: [CinCVS] dv grabbing (off topic)

2006-09-23 Thread Pierre Marc Dumuid



BTW, that's the same for burning DVD. If you want to be SURE the DVD are
perfectly burn, I have to do nothing except burning on my computer. I
burn at 4x speed only.
  
Huh??  I've burnt 2 DVD disks at once on my computer (using 2 dvd 
burners) and didn't really have any problems..
Given that you can buy tower DVD duplicators that duplicate 3 disks at 
once, I was wondering why linux isn't able to do it either..


but, I guess it shouldn't be recommended..
:)


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Re: [CinCVS] dv grabbing (off topic)

2006-09-23 Thread Nicolas
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 10:26:33AM +0200, Piotr Legiecki wrote:
> Hi
> 
> This is not exactly cinelerra question, but cinelerra users could face it.
> 
> the problem is with grabing (dvgrab 2.0) from miniDV camcorder to hdd. 
> Everything works fine until I do nothing with my linux box. when I 
> resise, minimize, move window frame drops accures (only one at a time). 
> My system is Athlon 64, 1GB ram, kernel 2.6.15.4. Well, it is strange, 
> it simply behavies like windows in the past days of first CD burners: 
> don't touch my, I'm buning.
> 
> error message:
>  frame dropped: timecode 00:25:27.10 date 2006.09.04 09:42:59
> This error means that the ieee1394 driver received an incomplete frame.
> .
> 
> 
> Is it something wrong with my system?
> 
> BTW cinelerra works fine ;-)
> 
> Regards
> P.

Well,

Such error messages happens when you run CPU-consuming tasks while
grabbing. Last time that happened on my computer, I was watching a video
on video.google. That consumed only 1 CPU on my system, but that was
sufficient to get some frame-drops.

That's why, when I grab DV, I read Slashdot and wait for the grab to
finish. ;-)

Anyway, unless you have tons of tapes to grab, that's not so annoying. I
grabbed the 2 tapes need for project in 2 hours. And I already spent
100+ hours with cinelerra editing the video. I really prefer to do not
touch my computer while grabbing, than having some frame drops...

BTW, that's the same for burning DVD. If you want to be SURE the DVD are
perfectly burn, I have to do nothing except burning on my computer. I
burn at 4x speed only.

Nicolas, Paris.

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Re: [CinCVS] dv grabbing (off topic)

2006-09-23 Thread Andraž Tori
make sure you have your disks in order with hdparam

... unmasking irqs, dma transfers, etc...

bye
andraz

On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 10:26 +0200, Piotr Legiecki wrote:
> Hi
> 
> This is not exactly cinelerra question, but cinelerra users could face it.
> 
> the problem is with grabing (dvgrab 2.0) from miniDV camcorder to hdd. 
> Everything works fine until I do nothing with my linux box. when I 
> resise, minimize, move window frame drops accures (only one at a time). 
> My system is Athlon 64, 1GB ram, kernel 2.6.15.4. Well, it is strange, 
> it simply behavies like windows in the past days of first CD burners: 
> don't touch my, I'm buning.
> 
> error message:
>  frame dropped: timecode 00:25:27.10 date 2006.09.04 09:42:59
> This error means that the ieee1394 driver received an incomplete frame.
> .
> 
> 
> Is it something wrong with my system?
> 
> BTW cinelerra works fine ;-)
> 
> Regards
> P.
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Re: [CinCVS] dv grabbing (off topic)

2006-09-23 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Piotr Legiecki wrote:

> error message:
>  frame dropped: timecode 00:25:27.10 date 2006.09.04 09:42:59
> This error means that the ieee1394 driver received an incomplete frame.
>
> Is it something wrong with my system?

The throughput on Linux seems to be rather odd in the 2.6 series of the
kernel. Is preemption on in your kernel?


Some people from the V4L list noticed that the 2.4 series has got much
higher PCI througputspeed than 2.6. Now I don't have decided yet to go
back to 2.4 for my embedded systems if the difference is that big or stay
and fix the issue.


But it is a thing to consider.


Stefan de Konink


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[CinCVS] dv grabbing (off topic)

2006-09-23 Thread Piotr Legiecki

Hi

This is not exactly cinelerra question, but cinelerra users could face it.

the problem is with grabing (dvgrab 2.0) from miniDV camcorder to hdd. 
Everything works fine until I do nothing with my linux box. when I 
resise, minimize, move window frame drops accures (only one at a time). 
My system is Athlon 64, 1GB ram, kernel 2.6.15.4. Well, it is strange, 
it simply behavies like windows in the past days of first CD burners: 
don't touch my, I'm buning.


error message:
 frame dropped: timecode 00:25:27.10 date 2006.09.04 09:42:59
This error means that the ieee1394 driver received an incomplete frame.
.


Is it something wrong with my system?

BTW cinelerra works fine ;-)

Regards
P.

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