Re: [CinCV] Ease of editing music videos

2008-12-20 Thread Randolph
Actually, that's what happened in HealingMindN Meditation.  The entire 
editing process acted like it was pulling a heavy weight the more I kept 
adding, but when I rendered the final result, everything was fine.


The difference with the music video is that I wanted to playback on a 
regular basis to make sure the scenes were transitioning properly to the 
beat of the music.  When the timing gets thrown off, I get thrown off, 
so when it starts moving in slow motion to the fast beat of Sadeness, 
I'm like "huh? where am I?" 

This only happened when I wanted to add a 3rd video track, but it was 
just too much.  In HealingMindN Meditation, I had 4 or 5 tracks going, 
but I wasn't worried about the beat of the music.

> I'm a little surprised at that small segment of reverse video I used
> because it went in slow motion.  The more tracks and effects I add, the
> more Cinelerra is acting like it's lifting a heavy weight.  
  


It's possible that the video while editing slows down while complicating
the scene, but if there is no real error, the rendered (final) video won't
have that problem. Did you try that?

John


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Re: [CinCV] Ease of editing music videos

2008-12-19 Thread Kurt Georg Hooss

...ha! again one item to the wishlist
i would like to report to the lumiera developers, hope that is o.k.

right, the computer cannot know which scenes you want to the music,
but there could be some sophisticatd algorithm to analyze the music
and place edit marks along the beat. verrry helpful indeed...

georg


On Friday 19 December 2008 20:11:09 Randolph wrote:
> If I knew of a way to automate effects to the beat of the music, I'd be all
> over that.  But how does the computer know which scenes I want in there to
> the beat of the music?  We would need some sort of sophisticated autonomous
> A.I. like Skynet for that.



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Re: [CinCV] Ease of editing music videos

2008-12-19 Thread John Coppens
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:11:09 -0800
Randolph  wrote:

> I'm a little surprised at that small segment of reverse video I used
> because it went in slow motion.  The more tracks and effects I add, the
> more Cinelerra is acting like it's lifting a heavy weight.  

It's possible that the video while editing slows down while complicating
the scene, but if there is no real error, the rendered (final) video won't
have that problem. Did you try that?

John

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Re: [CinCV] Ease of editing music videos

2008-12-19 Thread Randolph

I used chroma key throughout because I was facing a bright white background and 
there were bright white lights in the ceiling, so I thought I'd use them to my 
advantage.

I'm a little surprised at that small segment of reverse video I used because it went in slow motion.  The more tracks and effects I add, the more Cinelerra is acting like it's lifting a heavy weight.  


I got away with 2 video tracks w/o putting a strain on Cinelerra.  In the 
background you see what I mention in the description: Mind Stereo.  Mind Stereo 
is used for brainwave entrainment and also moves to the beat of the music.  I 
talk about Mind Stereo at http://tinyurl.com/mindstereo*.  *I recorded from my 
desktop in Windows using CamStudio, freely available on the web.

If I knew of a way to automate effects to the beat of the music, I'd be all 
over that.  But how does the computer know which scenes I want in there to the 
beat of the music?  We would need some sort of sophisticated autonomous A.I. 
like Skynet for that.

Happy Holidays!

Randolph (HealingMindN)

To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Ease of editing music videos
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:26:22 +0100
Reply-To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no


impressive...
i have no problems with editing along the beats,
but i would like to know more about the video effects you used...

is that chromakey? and reverse video?
and did you manually put every flash of light on the timeline?
or is there a way of automating video effects according to the sound?

thanks
georg


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Re: [CinCV] Ease of editing music videos

2008-12-19 Thread Kurt Georg Hooss

manuel, your suggestion makes sense to me.
e.g. setting marks by hitting keys during playback would be really helpful.
they could then be auto-adjusted to
(a) frames, (b) seconds, (c) clip boundaries, etc. just nice.

georg



On Friday 19 December 2008 18:05:53 Manuel Quiñones wrote:
> 2008/12/18 Randolph :
> > Hey, I want share how easy it is to do edits with music videos.  I don't
> > know many of you have done this already, but all I have to do is look at
> > the sound wave and edit to the beat of the music.  Of course, it's kind
> > of like basket weaving where it gets tedious, but the finished product is
> > worth it.
>
> it would be nice that video can be cut while it is playing, just
> stroking a key at the moment where a cut is needed. I have seen this
> in avid.
>
> in cinelerra although, if two strips belong to the same video and one
> is put next to the other, if they match in time, then they are auto
> joined.
>
> it can be a feature for lumiera :)
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Re: [CinCV] Ease of editing music videos

2008-12-19 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2008/12/18 Randolph :
> Hey, I want share how easy it is to do edits with music videos.  I don't
> know many of you have done this already, but all I have to do is look at the
> sound wave and edit to the beat of the music.  Of course, it's kind of like
> basket weaving where it gets tedious, but the finished product is worth it.

it would be nice that video can be cut while it is playing, just
stroking a key at the moment where a cut is needed. I have seen this
in avid.

in cinelerra although, if two strips belong to the same video and one
is put next to the other, if they match in time, then they are auto
joined.

it can be a feature for lumiera :)

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Re: [CinCV] Ease of editing music videos

2008-12-19 Thread Kurt Georg Hooss

impressive...
i have no problems with editing along the beats,
but i would like to know more about the video effects you used...

is that chromakey? and reverse video?
and did you manually put every flash of light on the timeline?
or is there a way of automating video effects according to the sound?

thanks
georg



On Thursday 18 December 2008 23:27:02 Randolph wrote:
> Hey, I want share how easy it is to do edits with music videos.  I don't
> know many of you have done this already, but all I have to do is look at
> the sound wave and edit to the beat of the music.  Of course, it's kind
> of like basket weaving where it gets tedious, but the finished product
> is worth it.
>
>
> Have a look at my latest project:
> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2172870/ballroom_dance_competition_trance_ver
>sion/
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