Re: [CinCV] cinelerra and super8 aspect ratio
Hi Franco Unfortunately you wont have too many choices. Best is to set to 4:3 and leave some black borders on top. However depending on the original size of the frames you can fit them in a 1280*720 for bluray authoring. It leaves black borders on each side but unless you are filming with some Kowa 2X or so, you wont escape it. I started a Super8mm group on Vimeo a year ago, please join us, I think I am the ony one doing 8 and 16 with cinelerra. :'( http://vimeo.com/groups/6080 Cheers Edouard On 22/03/10 05:53, franco basaglia wrote: > Hi all. > I'm working with a telecined super8 file. > The aspect ratio is 1.58.1 > > I' d make a dvd keeping this aspect ratio. > Any idea about format setting > and > render setting? > > I try some combinations but they don't work. > > thanks > > frenk, cinelerra addicted > > ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] cinelerra and super8 aspect ratio
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 14:56 -0400, Roland wrote: > Cinelerra doesn't seem to export to 16:9 format. I can effectively set my anamorphic DV to 16:9 in the Format window. This affects my compositor/viewer as well my rendering. She works quite well. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] cinelerra and super8 aspect ratio
Cinelerra doesn't seem to export to 16:9 format. Avidemux give the possibility when choosing 16:9 option in the video settings part (on the left side). I guess this can be achieved from the command line too. On 2010-03-23 11:27, Odin Omdal Hørthe wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:37 PM, franco basaglia wrote: > > I don't know if this is true. > > I just edit my clips with a wrong aspect ratio > > (I see that it's wrong on compisitor) > > and render project with the right aspect ratio seems impossibile. > > > > I'm afraid I have to start again from the begin with the rigth apsect ratio. > > No, I do think you can just edit the aspect in the settings, and > you'll see it correctly. However, such things should be perfectly > doable to fix with ffmpeg et al afterwards. You can add black lines to > make it 4:3 there if it proves hard in Cinelerra :-) It's probably > easier, because there you only do it on the whole file, whilst in > Cinelerra you might have to bother with effects on every clip. > > I might be wrong though, I haven't really used Cin for other things > than fairly standard DV. > > > ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] cinelerra and super8 aspect ratio
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:37 PM, franco basaglia wrote: > I don't know if this is true. > I just edit my clips with a wrong aspect ratio > (I see that it's wrong on compisitor) > and render project with the right aspect ratio seems impossibile. > > I'm afraid I have to start again from the begin with the rigth apsect ratio. No, I do think you can just edit the aspect in the settings, and you'll see it correctly. However, such things should be perfectly doable to fix with ffmpeg et al afterwards. You can add black lines to make it 4:3 there if it proves hard in Cinelerra :-) It's probably easier, because there you only do it on the whole file, whilst in Cinelerra you might have to bother with effects on every clip. I might be wrong though, I haven't really used Cin for other things than fairly standard DV. -- Beste helsing, Odin Hørthe Omdal http://velmont.no ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] cinelerra and super8 aspect ratio
Thanks for your info Herman By the way, don't rely on Cinelerra to set the proper flags and parameters for aspect ratio. The project aspect ratio setting usually only affects the _display_ in the Compositor window. (Don't take my word for this, check yourself.) I don't know if this is true. I just edit my clips with a wrong aspect ratio (I see that it's wrong on compisitor) and render project with the right aspect ratio seems impossibile. I'm afraid I have to start again from the begin with the rigth apsect ratio. Thanks to all. f. 2010/3/22 Herman Robak > On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:53:13 +0100, franco basaglia > wrote: > > Hi all. >> I'm working with a telecined super8 file. >> The aspect ratio is 1.58.1 >> > > (corrected in a later e-mail to 1.48:1) > > > > I' d make a dvd keeping this aspect ratio. >> Any idea about format setting and render setting? >> > > If I recall correctly, the DVD _spec_ allows some other > aspect ratios than 16:9 and 4:3, but you can not expect > any hardware DVD players to support them. > > I'm afraid you will have to choose a compromise. > 1.48:1 is very close to 14:9, which is a typical > compromise ratio, rendered as 4:3 with slim black > bars. Those black bars will almost vanish outside > the screen on old-fashioned CRT TVs. > > > By the way, don't rely on Cinelerra to set the > proper flags and parameters for aspect ratio. > The project aspect ratio setting usually only > affects the _display_ in the Compositor window. > (Don't take my word for this, check yourself.) > > -- > Herman Robak > > ___ > Cinelerra mailing list > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra >
Re: [CinCV] cinelerra and super8 aspect ratio
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:53:13 +0100, franco basaglia wrote: Hi all. I'm working with a telecined super8 file. The aspect ratio is 1.58.1 (corrected in a later e-mail to 1.48:1) I' d make a dvd keeping this aspect ratio. Any idea about format setting and render setting? If I recall correctly, the DVD _spec_ allows some other aspect ratios than 16:9 and 4:3, but you can not expect any hardware DVD players to support them. I'm afraid you will have to choose a compromise. 1.48:1 is very close to 14:9, which is a typical compromise ratio, rendered as 4:3 with slim black bars. Those black bars will almost vanish outside the screen on old-fashioned CRT TVs. By the way, don't rely on Cinelerra to set the proper flags and parameters for aspect ratio. The project aspect ratio setting usually only affects the _display_ in the Compositor window. (Don't take my word for this, check yourself.) -- Herman Robak ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
