Re: [CinCVS] A V non matching
On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 08:29 -0400, Wesley T Allen wrote: > > > For people in 29.97 countries, i'd suggest using 30fps frame rate and > > > setting it to 29.97 only at the end when exporting > > Andraz - so changing to 29.97 after editing won't require me to change all my > clips as well? > no. the only possible negative consequence is that when viewing at 30fps, sometimes the same frame will be shown twice (approx 0.1% of the frames). But when you change to 29.97, this will be gone... So this might be annoying if you are doing for example frame-accurate keyframing of moving objects or something like that, but you probably aren't. bye andraz ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] A V non matching
> > For people in 29.97 countries, i'd suggest using 30fps frame rate and > > setting it to 29.97 only at the end when exporting Andraz - so changing to 29.97 after editing won't require me to change all my clips as well? WEs > > > > bye > > andraz > > > > bye > > andraz > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Cinelerra mailing list > > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra > > ___ > Cinelerra mailing list > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra -- "The only way to stay sane in an insane world is to be insane." --Me ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] A V non matching
On Saturday 21 October 2006 10:46 am, Scott C. Frase wrote: > Andraz, > Yes, that is my situation, as my camera's output is 720p, 29.97fps. I > will try your workaround. Could someone write up a howto on doing this workaround? Wes > > thanks, > scott > > On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 12:50 +0200, Andraž Tori wrote: > > On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 12:40 +0200, Raffaella Traniello wrote: > > > Hi all! > > > > > > 16/10/06 > > > (Scott) > > > > > > > > 2) I noticed that for joins between separate videos on the same a/v > > > > > tracks, the joins between the audio and video segments did not end > > > > > at the exact same place. > > > > > > (Pierre) > > > > > > > This is a common annoyance! It is the result of the audio being > > > > slightly longer in the source file. > > > > > > Has this _common annoyance_ and its heavy consequences already been > > > studied in details? > > > I can't find any substantial reference to that in the archives (do I > > > miss the right keyword?) > > > > actually, even if that problem is fixed there is still the 29.97 fps > > problem, which means that samples can never match the frames precisely, > > which will sometimes cause desync when cutting/trimming even if all > > material was carefully put on the timeline. 25fps footage never > > exhibits this problem. (it still exhibits the original one) > > > > For people in 29.97 countries, i'd suggest using 30fps frame rate and > > setting it to 29.97 only at the end when exporting > > > > bye > > andraz > > > > bye > > andraz > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Cinelerra mailing list > > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra > > ___ > Cinelerra mailing list > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra -- "The only way to stay sane in an insane world is to be insane." --Me ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] A V non matching
Andraz, Yes, that is my situation, as my camera's output is 720p, 29.97fps. I will try your workaround. thanks, scott On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 12:50 +0200, Andraž Tori wrote: > On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 12:40 +0200, Raffaella Traniello wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > 16/10/06 > > (Scott) > > > > 2) I noticed that for joins between separate videos on the same a/v > > > > tracks, the joins between the audio and video segments did not end at > > > > the exact same place. > > (Pierre) > > > This is a common annoyance! It is the result of the audio being > > > slightly longer in the source file. > > > > Has this _common annoyance_ and its heavy consequences already been > > studied in details? > > I can't find any substantial reference to that in the archives (do I > > miss the right keyword?) > > actually, even if that problem is fixed there is still the 29.97 fps > problem, which means that samples can never match the frames precisely, > which will sometimes cause desync when cutting/trimming even if all > material was carefully put on the timeline. 25fps footage never > exhibits this problem. (it still exhibits the original one) > > For people in 29.97 countries, i'd suggest using 30fps frame rate and > setting it to 29.97 only at the end when exporting > > bye > andraz > > bye > andraz > > > > > > ___ > Cinelerra mailing list > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] A V non matching
On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 12:50 +0200, Andraž Tori wrote: > actually, even if that problem is fixed there is still the 29.97 fps > problem, which means that samples can never match the frames precisely, > which will sometimes cause desync when cutting/trimming even if all > material was carefully put on the timeline. 25fps footage never > exhibits this problem. (it still exhibits the original one) > > For people in 29.97 countries, i'd suggest using 30fps frame rate and > setting it to 29.97 only at the end when exporting Andraz, thanks for the quick and useful answer! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] A V non matching
On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 12:40 +0200, Raffaella Traniello wrote: > Hi all! > > 16/10/06 > (Scott) > > > 2) I noticed that for joins between separate videos on the same a/v > > > tracks, the joins between the audio and video segments did not end at > > > the exact same place. > (Pierre) > > This is a common annoyance! It is the result of the audio being > > slightly longer in the source file. > > Has this _common annoyance_ and its heavy consequences already been > studied in details? > I can't find any substantial reference to that in the archives (do I > miss the right keyword?) actually, even if that problem is fixed there is still the 29.97 fps problem, which means that samples can never match the frames precisely, which will sometimes cause desync when cutting/trimming even if all material was carefully put on the timeline. 25fps footage never exhibits this problem. (it still exhibits the original one) For people in 29.97 countries, i'd suggest using 30fps frame rate and setting it to 29.97 only at the end when exporting bye andraz bye andraz ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
